Subject: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Ran Coleman Date: 25 May 97 - 03:49 PM I have th words to this song that my mother used to sing, but I've never heard any reference to it from anyone else. Does anyone know of a good recording of the song? ran_coleman@juno.com |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: H. Burhans Date: 25 May 97 - 04:45 PM I had a recording of this tune on a Brother's Four album when I was in high school. Don't know the name of the album but I loved it at age 13 - I'm 42 now if that gives you an idea of the vintage! H.Burhans |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Barry Finn Date: 25 May 97 - 07:58 PM I think Sweeny's Men or the Bothy Band did a great recording of The Raggle Taggle Gypsy, years ago. It's in the database under Gypsy, you'll find The Gypsy Laddie (Johnny Faa- Child #200), Black Jack Davey and Gypsy Davey with some info. In 1624 a gypsy chieftain with the common Romany name, Johnny Faa was hung by Scottish officals. No connection was ever established between any gypsy and a wife of the Earl of Cassilis as recorded in song. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Petra (pacosgrove@fortlewis.edu) Date: 26 May 97 - 06:23 PM Ran - It will be hard to find, but if you can find it, there is a band named "Shaman" that does an unbelievable version of it.. Unfortunately, I can't recal which album it's on.. :) Good luck on your search! :) Petra |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Peter Timmerman Date: 26 May 97 - 09:10 PM The first chapter of Nick Tosches wild book on the roots of country music "Country" is all about the history of this song through about 2000 years. He traces it back to the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice! Yours, Peter |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Paul Kennedy Date: 16 Jun 97 - 05:21 PM The Irish Descendants have a good version of The Raggle Taggle Gypsy on their album titled Gypsies & Lovers. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Ran Coleman Date: 16 Jun 97 - 09:33 PM Thanks to all of you for your help on this. I've been exploring to see if I can find some of the recordings you've mentioned. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Coralena Date: 17 Jun 97 - 11:49 AM Now I am curious about this song. Could you please post it? |
Subject: Chords Add: THE WRAGGLE TAGGLE GYPSIES From: Gene Graham Date: 17 Jun 97 - 12:06 PM Here's one short version. THE WRAGGLE TAGGLE GYPSIES
Once there [C#m] were three gypsies |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: dick greenhaus Date: 17 Jun 97 - 03:38 PM We have quite a few versions of the song (Child #200). Search the database for #200 or gypsy.. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Una Grey Date: 17 Jun 97 - 03:41 PM The Waterboys also have a good version on their Room to Roam album |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Susan of DT Date: 17 Jun 97 - 07:53 PM If you search for "#200" you will find LOTS of versions of Gypsy Davy. It is a very popular ballad |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Ricky Rackin Date: 17 Jun 97 - 09:19 PM Stefan Sobel [yes, the cittern-maker!] sang "Seven Yellow Gypsies" Seven yellow gypsies stood in a row And by them came my lady-o She was the fairest of them all And she's gone with the seven yellow gypsies-o More.... if anyone's still pulling on this thread Ricky |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Rosslyn Clayton Date: 19 Jun 97 - 04:58 AM I have a cd called The Songs of Scotland from Emporio EMPRCD590. On it is the song Raggle Taggle Gypsies sung by Kathleen MacDonald. Happy hunting. I would be interested in the words of the song as well. Rosslyn Clayton R.Clayton@mailbox.uq.edu.au |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Rosslyn Clayton Date: 19 Jun 97 - 05:16 AM I have a cd called The Songs of Scotland from Emporio EMPRCD590. On it is the song Raggle Taggle Gypsies sung by Kathleen MacDonald. Happy hunting. I would be interested in the words of the song as well. Rosslyn Clayton R.Clayton@mailbox.uq.edu.au |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Bo Date: 20 Jun 97 - 01:19 PM Christy Moore has a good version of this song on his album "Prosperous". bo |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE TRAVELLING SALESMAN (Alan Foster) From: Alan of Australia Date: 20 Jun 97 - 07:02 PM G'day, Here's a version I bet you haven't heard - The Australian version! I've just changed the country and century.
THE TRAVELLING SALESMAN
by Alan Foster, 1989
A travelling salesman came knocking on the door
Late that night when the yuppie came home
Well he thought that the note would tell him that
So he ran to his Porsche in the triple garage
Oh he drove north and he drove south
Oh how could you leave your fine waterbed
What care I for my fine waterbed
The North Shore is an affluent area of Sydney. Cheers, |
Subject: Lyr Add: RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY / WRAGGLE-TAGGLE ... From: Ran Coleman Date: 22 Jun 97 - 12:20 AM Here are two slightly different versions. One may be from the database -- I'm not sure where I got it: THE RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY
There were three gypsies came to our door.
It was upstairs, downstairs the lady went,
It was late that night when the lord came in,
"Well, saddle for me my milk-white steed.
Well, he rode east, and he rode west.
"Tell me, how you could leave your goose-feather bed,
"Well, what care I for my goose-feather bed,
"Tell me, how could you leave your house and your land,
"Well, what care I for my house and my land?
There were three gypsies a-come to my door,
Then she pulled off her silk finished gown,
It was late last night when my lord came home,
"O saddle to me my milk-white steed,
O he rode high, and he rode low.
"What makes you leave your house and land?
"What care I for my house and land?
"Last night you slept on a goose-feather bed,
"What care I for a goose-feather bed, |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: LaMarca Date: 25 Jun 97 - 02:25 PM Great parody, Alan! Have you seen "The Beatniks and the Hippies" (it's in the DT)? It's a slightly dated up-dating of Wraggle Taggle, I think from Victoria or Vancouver, British Columbia... |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: LaMarca Date: 25 Jun 97 - 02:31 PM Forgot to add, Elizabeth Scarborough, the fantasy writer, wrote a fun novel based loosely on Child 200, called "Song of Sorcery". It opens with a minstrel very nearly getting himself in DEEP trouble when he sings the latest gossip ballad about the lord's wife running off with the gypsies, only to find that the lady's sister is in the audience. She is NOT pleased to hear her sister's reputation besmirched - and she's a witch... The book (and its several sequals) are funny and fun to read. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: kiwi@unagi.cybernothing.org Date: 26 Jun 97 - 02:33 PM Unfortunately, I haven't yet gotten my hands on it, but a minstrel group called Double Indemnity did a beautiful version of this song. If anybody's gone go the PA or NJ Faire in the past couple years, you might have seen them wandering around and heard this. I'm considering writing to the group to ask them to send me a copy of Raggle-Taggle Gypsy.. the first version one hears of a song is usually the one held most dear... |
Subject: Lyr Add: RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY From: GUEST Date: 10 Mar 00 - 12:54 PM A version from the Irish Descendants:
Ah there were three old gypsies came to our hall door.
It was upstairs and downstairs the lady went,
It was late that night when the lord came in,
"Oh, saddle for me, me milk white steed.
So he rode east and he rode west.
"Oh, why did you leave your house and your land?
"Yerra, what do I care for me house and me land?
"Last night you slept in a goose-feather bed
"Yerra, what do I care for a goose-feather bed?
So he rode east and she rode west. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 10 Mar 00 - 01:37 PM Ewan MacColl did a wonderful unaccompanied version on one of the disks of _The English and Scottish Popular Ballads_ (the Child ballads), available from Smithsonian- Folkways in either CDs or tape. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: kendall Date: 10 Mar 00 - 02:05 PM The Tannehill Weavers did a great job on this.. Gordon Bok used to sing it, and his version went ..one sang high and another sang low, one sang Bonnie Bonnie Biscay oh.. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: GeorgeH Date: 10 Mar 00 - 02:07 PM Wasn't this track which the (BBC, UK) Radio 2 Folk Awards voted the year's best? Done by Waterson/Carthy . . . Though for my money their version doesn't come close to Martin Simpson's recent performances of it. And, as noted, there are MANY variants of it. G. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: kendall Date: 10 Mar 00 - 02:09 PM Gordon Bok used to sing it, and his version went ..one sang high and another sang low, one sang Bonnie Bonnie Biscay oh.. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Elektra Date: 10 Mar 00 - 03:11 PM Kiwi: I'll be seeing Double Indemnity sometime in the next few weeks and I'm planning to pick up a couple of their CD's myself! I've seen them many times -- they are a LOT of fun. BTW, I'm not sure, but I think you can order some through their website at www.doubleindemnity.com *elektra*
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Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Gypsy Date: 10 Mar 00 - 04:25 PM Oh yeah! Minstrels of Mayhem do a great rendition of this old Child ballad. Check it out at thier website, www.minstrelsofmayhem.com. I think they have midi clips |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Kim C Date: 10 Mar 00 - 04:50 PM There's a good recording on A Present From the Gentlemen by John Roberts and Tony Barrand. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Willie-O Date: 10 Mar 00 - 05:39 PM Also look for versions of "Black Jack Davey". Arlo Guthrie sings an Americanized version (with a horn section--cool!) which I think was adapted by Woody hisself. Used to hear it on the radio a lot (70's) so it may even have charted! Starts: It was late last night when the boss came home Willie-O |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: rangeroger Date: 10 Mar 00 - 10:00 PM Wiilie-O: Have you heard Dave Alvin's version? Album titled the same;" Black Jack David" rr |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 11 Mar 00 - 12:30 AM I'm surprised that nobody seems to have mentioned Planxty's recording (on their first album), which I suspect is where the Irish Descendants got theirs -right down to the interjected "Yerra"s! As for "Seven Yellow Gypsies", Martin Carthy did a rather fine take of that on "Prince Heathen". Malcolm |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: roopoo Date: 11 Mar 00 - 01:27 AM There is also the "Gypsy Rover" which is of the same ilk. It's not one of my favourite versions, though. It's the one where the chorus goes Ah-de-do, ah-de-do-dah-day, ah-de-do-ah-de-day-dee. He whistled and he sang till the green woods rang, and he won the heart of a lady. It is not one of my favourites, and I think that chorus has a lot to do with why! Somewhere I have a few sheets of "Raggle Taggle Gypsy" song lyrics, but I can't find them. (Typical). There would pribably be nothing new on. I think it even has the hippies and beatniks version too! mouldy |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: GUEST Date: 11 Mar 00 - 09:18 PM and then there's GYPSIES, TRAMPS AND THIEVES by Chair. But seriously the ve |
Subject: Lyr Add: CLAYTON BOONE (from Harry Jackson) From: Art Thieme Date: 11 Mar 00 - 10:54 PM "7 Yellow Gypsies" leads off Nic Jones recent CD. Also---HARRY JACKSON on his 2-LP set of cowboy songs on Folkways, HARRY JACKSON---THE COWBOY (his songs and brag talk), did a classic western version of this song----Here it is. "CLAYTON BOONE".
'Twas way out in New Mexico along the Spanish line
He rides in and asks of me, "What's happened to my lady?"
"Go saddle for my proud cut dun with the coal black mane and tail
I'll bridle on my leather chaps--I'll tie my pistol o'er,
I rode upon a saddle fine --a saddle made o0f silver,
I rode until the midnight sun -- 'til I saw their campfire burnin'
"Come home with me to your own sweet bed -- the sheets turned down so gayly,
"Well, I'll not come home to my own sweet bed--the sheets turned down so gayly, _______________________________________________________ Ed Tricket also has this on a great Folk Legacy album. Bob Bovee did a fine version too. Art Thieme
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Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: raredance Date: 12 Mar 00 - 12:33 AM A nice version of "Gypsy Davy" can be found on a 1980 LP by Roxanne and Dan Keding called "From Far and Near" Billy Edd Wheeler added a a chorus to his version called "Black Jack Davy" on the album "Billy Edd: USA" rich r
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Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Mark Cohen Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:58 AM Mark Graham did a version that I know as "Honest Al," though it may have another name. "Would you forsake your house and home, your bridge club and your baby/To ride off in a microbus and risk a case of scabies?" I don't remember all the words or I'd post them. Maybe after I take my ginkgo I'll give it a try. It's not in the DT, though several of his songs are. And I have one, too, based on the "Black Jack Davy" version of the story. It's called BLACK JACK DAVY (IN ATLANTIC CITY). I hope the traditionalists will forgive me. Aloha Mark |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Art Thieme Date: 12 Mar 00 - 11:03 AM Mark, That's a great one. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: raredance Date: 12 Mar 00 - 11:43 AM Mark, Love your lyrics. Hope you can pull the Graham one out of your mind's recesses as it sounds equally delightful. rich r |
Subject: Lyr Add: HONEST AL(?) (Mark Graham?) From: Mark Cohen Date: 12 Mar 00 - 06:00 PM Art, I am deeply honored. Rich, here is what my depleted memory banks can reconstruct of Mark's song. After reading the words to "Clayton Boone," posted by Art above, I suspect Mark based it on that song. Tune will tell. (Sorry, Art, couldn't resist.) I wish I had an easy way of posting tunes. HONEST AL (May not be the real title) by Mark Graham (May not be a real person) I was working down in Fresno, to the end of my endurance Working for old Honest Al, who sold low-cost insurance He'd call his wife each day at three, inquiring "What's for dinner?" With the Cuisinart and the microwave, it always was a winner But then one day he called his wife, and man, was it a bummer She said she'd gone and left him for a hippie guitar strummer "I've thrown away my high-heeled shoes, I will no longer need 'em And bought a pair of Birkenstocks; I've never known such freedom So goodbye to suburbia and the only life I've known I've gone away forever - leave your message at the tone" So Al got in his XKE, 'cause the Lincoln wouldn't handle And went to retrieve his wifey dear and thus avoid a scandal He drove and he drove down the interstate till he found them by the sea-O They were chanting out their mantra, No Myo Harenge Kyo "How could you leave your house and lawn, your bridge club and your baby To run off in a microbus and risk a case of scabies? I'll give to you a Betamax if you'll come home with me-O" She shook her head and passed the pipe, and said, "Let's be a trio" So Al put on a wide-brimmed hat, a poncho and some sandals The three now live in Santa Cruz, quite happy making candles Now there's a master. As far as I know, Mark and Susan are still in Seattle, but it's been a long time since I've seen them. Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Mark Cohen Date: 12 Mar 00 - 06:04 PM P.S., Dick or Susan, I hope this can be added to Mark's oeuvre in the DT. Or else just put it with the rest of his songs. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: GUEST Date: 13 Mar 00 - 11:17 AM 'betamax', ooooo ephemeral technology |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: GUEST,Tommy Mooney Date: 13 Mar 00 - 03:10 PM There is a great version on their early recordings by a group of "Celtic Rockers" called, guess? "The Raggle Taggle Gypsies" an up-tempo version using the Planxty(Christy Moore) lyrics. This Irish band play lots of festivals around europe, especially in Scandanavia, where they are very highly regarded.They line-up Derek Murtagh, from Trim, Co.Meath on keyboard; a dubliner Brendan who leads vocal and plays bodhran and rythym guitar; another dubliner Paul plays guitar/banjo and one of several fiddlers , Kevin or Hugh two virtuosi who can really bow it. Check them out |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Bearheart Date: 25 Jul 00 - 11:37 PM Found lots of references on this thread to versions of the Raggle-Taggle Gypseys, but none are the version I'm seeking--- done years ago by Delores Keane and one of the finest I've heard. If anyone out there knows of it I'm still looking for those lyrics. Bearheart |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Trevor Date: 31 Jul 00 - 03:10 PM There's a cracking version of this on the 'Waterson & Carthy' album |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 31 Jul 00 - 03:41 PM Christy Moore also sang it with Planxty - I wonder if this might be the one Barry was tryingto remember? I think they recorded it - maybe on "The Well Below the Valley." |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: oggie Date: 31 Jul 00 - 04:12 PM Planxty recorded it on 'Planxty' which was their first album and it segues into 'Give Me your Hand' (This was the first time I ever heard Irish music and I've been hooked ever since). It's the same version' but diferent production, to the one on Christy Moore's 'Prosperous'. The Planxty album was produced by Phil Coulter who in those days was part of Coulter/Quinn productions who produced endless chart teen bands (I think the Bay City Rollers were one of theirs!) All the best Steve PS there was also a Fred Wedlock spoof version the only line I can remember is 'Bring to me the MGB, the Rolls is ne'er so speedy-o. |
Subject: Lyr Add: BLACKJACK DAVY From: GUEST,David E. Siegel (Siegel@acm.org) Date: 31 Jul 00 - 04:20 PM Richard Dyer-Bennett did a version of this, on his CD Entitled "The Wraggle-Taggle Gypsies". This is a collection of traditional songs from various periods, with printed lyrics in the liner notes. Don't have the CD to hand, but I bought it only 3 or 4 years ago in a mainstream book/record store, so it can't be long out of print. He also did a version of BLACKJACK DAVY on a much older record which I used to have in vinyl. If memory serves that version went:
Blackjack Davy came a riding through the trees.
Will you go with me, my pretty little miss?
She took off her high-heeled shoes
The landlord he came home at night
"Go bridle and saddle my little yellow mare.
He rode till he came to the dark blue sea.
"Will you forsake your house and land?
She took off her white glove ----- I also recall some quotes/references to one of the versions given earlier in this thread in D. L. Sayers' novel _Busman's Honeymoon_ when it appears that the main characters may be locked out on their wedding night. |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: Alice Date: 10 Aug 01 - 11:13 PM Here is my recording of Raggle Taggle Gypsy. I like the way Tom's fiddle sounds like it is playing the role of the gypsy. I also added a couple of verses of my own at the end:
So let this be a lesson true,
For a lady loves with a tender heart recording - Raggle Taggle Gypsy, Alice Flynn and Tom Robison |
Subject: RE: The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy From: masato sakurai Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:02 AM I like Steeleye Span's "Black Jack Davy" rather than Alfred Deller's "Wraggle Taggle Gypsies." Anyway, Bronson recorded 127 variants (and a few more in vol. 4)of this very familar ballad (or, group of ballads, we should say) in The Traditional Tunes of the Child Ballads. Most of them are given words separately along with the music. How varied they are!
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