Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)

Subject: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Susan of DT
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 08:41 PM

Dick Greenhaus died January 5 at our retirement community in Lansdale, PA. Dick was responsible for developing the Digital Tradition database in 1988, which, in turn, when later posted here, aided the popularity of the mudcat website. (See the blurb from the DT here, VERY outdated. Dick was into folk music since the 1940s in New York City. He was a professional accompanist on guitar and banjo. After training as a chemist, he was employed as several kinds of engineer, including stints at Monsanto, Playtex, and Consumer Reports, among others. He acquired CAMSCO Music to sell traditional folk music CDs, both at festivals and online/phone. The thrust of CAMSCO changed to book publishing, jointly with Loomis House Press, as festivals vanished and we got too old to schlep the CDs around to festivals.

We are planning a memorial gathering, probably in March at our retirement community in Lansdale, PA - northern suburb of Philadelphia, just off the Northeast Extension of the Pennsy Turnpike and on the SEPTA regional rail line. Please PM me if you would like to attend, so I can work out the details and keep you informed (include your email).

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Dick's posts as a member
Dick's posts as a GUEST.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 08:49 PM

Oh, I knew this day was coming, but it's still hard to take. I enjoyed him so much. May he rest easy now. He was truly a significant man. Thank you for being such a wonderful companion to him all these years, Susan.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 08:58 PM

I hadn't heard anything from or about him for a longish time, and figured he wasn't doing too well. Such a huge contribution he made.
My sympathy, Susan.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: RTim
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 08:58 PM

Oh - that is very sad sad news - Dick was an amazing man with great vision for both Audio and Printed media -- and in addition Mudcat and The Digital Tradition would not be what they are with him - and Susan's - input ....thinking of them both tonight.

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 09:06 PM

The DT and CAMSCO are such gifts to all of us. Thank you for everything, Dick, and rest in peace. Susan, I am so sorry and offer you and the family heartfelt condolences.

Maggie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 09:07 PM

WOW ! ! !

A great man of simple roots that dared to dance with the muse.

Thank you Mr. GREENHAUS

You contributed magnitudes to multiple generations.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Susan i embrace you with prayers...you danced with an immortal.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 09:31 PM

Oh my God! Rest in Peace, Dick. You were one of the Greats.

And gang -- let's keep the DT going.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: meself
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 09:45 PM

Damned shame. Another one. RIP.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 10:37 PM

My condolences, Susan. Dick was a great man and will be sorely missed. Thank you for everything, Dick. RIP and best wishes to you. Gibb

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 11:10 PM

Let me offer my condolences too. Dick published a little book of mine, and we corresponded several times. He was always helpful - more than helpful - and wonderful to work with. This is very, very sad news.

Please be well.

Jon

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Linda Zebooker
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 11:16 PM

So sorry to learn this. My condolences. Dick will be very, very missed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 01:27 AM

Damn. I was just getting into folk music, and wanted to know the words to all these wonderful songs. That's how I discovered the DigiTrad on a Xerox website. I loved it,and eventually spent hours downloading it (crappy small town dial up). A while later, I lost it thanks to a reformat. So I went back, and found it was no longer there. It had been moved to some forum called Mudcat Cafe, which I eventually joined. I know my story is far from unique.

Thank you, Dick, for all your hard work. Rest easy knowing you did an amazing thing.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: ClaireBear
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 02:16 AM

Oh Susan, I am sorry to read this. Fair winds and following seas to Dick for his voyage. My respect and affection go with you.
Jeni

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:27 AM

So sorry to hear this. My sincere condolences to you Susan.

Slainte
Alison

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:36 AM

I met Dick when he visited Whitby folk festival many years ago - a lovely sense of humour and a very knowledgeable man. He has given us a wonderful resource in the DT, which I am sure will carry on. My condolences to his family

Pat xxxx

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:38 AM

RIP Disk, condolences to Susan and all family. The DT was an inspired resource.

RtS

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:46 AM

My condolences to you, Susan. You two were a great pair.

I'll make sure Debby Johnson knows.

Thank you, Susan.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:54 AM

Condolences to you and to all who know and love him, Susan. I am so pleased I managed to meet him when you were in England. He was truly a giant in the world of folk music and as nice a man as we have ever had under our roof.

Rest In Peace, Dick.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: KT
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 04:24 AM

Oh, Susan, my heartfelt condolences to you. Dick brought so much to the world of folk music, and together, you made such a great team. So grateful to have fond memories of your visit. Take good care, Susan.
KT

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: andymac
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:12 AM

So sorry to hear this. I never met Dick but always valued his contributions here without realising until now, just how pivotal he had been in setting it all up.
Condolences to you Susan. RIP and thank you.

Andy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:26 AM

So sorry to hear this. I swapped emails and messages with Dick when I was producing an abc version of the DT and he even sent me software to help with a couple of difficult files. And his republishing of Bronson at an affordable price was an immense contribution to folk music in general.

He will be greatly missed. Condolences to Susan.

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:43 AM

So sorry to hear this. I remember discovering the DT in its pre-Mudcat days and admiring the professionalism with which Dick and Susan worked in those pretty primitive IT days. Such a contribution they (and Max) have made.Sad not to have met him.

May he rest in peace

Regards

P.s. And I thought I was the only chemist interested in folksong!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:53 AM

An important influence upon me-altering my life, creating books, knowledge and cultural transmission-Dick found ways of getting things accomplished-he gave us his dreams and tools, a chemist of the pursuit of folklore-We join you in your grief, festively though to remember and renew our efforts of transmission and discovery.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:56 AM

Sorry to hear this.....my condolences, Susan.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 06:04 AM

Met Dick at Getaway ,several times ! ALWAYS enjoyed his company . He WILL be sadly missed

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Janie
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 06:16 AM

I'm sad to hear this Susan.   The contributions you and Dick have made through the years through your development of the DT, and the books and music you made available through CAMSCO are gifts to the world of folk music and folklore.

Holding you in my thoughts and meditations.

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 06:26 AM

Yes, a day none of us wanted to see. He was pivotal in the development of Mudcat and for that we owe him a huge debt. I have added Dick to the "In Memoriam" thread. My thoughts are with you Susan and all those who know and love him.

Pete

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,flying cat (moira)
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:00 AM

So sad to hear about Dick's death, he was a very special person and he and Susan were both so helpful and supportive anytime I was over. He will be missed by us all. Love to you Susan xxx

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:23 AM

If true greatness is having your work live on when you are gone, he achieved it.

Condolences to Susan and family.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:31 AM

So very sorry.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:56 AM

Thanks to Dick and condolences to Susan from me also.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:59 AM

Sorry to hear this. I missed you both at Whitby, and guessed the trip was getting too much for Dick. RIP, your contributions to folk music live on.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:05 AM

I am very sorry to hear about this.It is a great loss to the folk world. I remember sharing a breakfast table with him several times while camping at the college during Whitby Folk Week.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Sandra in Sydney cookieless
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:19 AM

sorry to read of his death, but as folk have said before, he leaves a huge legacy.

condolences to Susan & other family members

sandra

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Alice
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 09:00 AM

My sympathy to you, Susan, and all his family. What you and Dick created and contributed to music has been and will be a treasure for many people all over the world.

Alice in Montana

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: John Minear
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 09:15 AM

I am sorry to hear this. It was always a pleasure to do business with Dick. His collection of rare and important resources at CAMSCO was invaluable. I remember finally getting to meet him and Susan at Mystic in 2012 and having the most helpful conversation with him. He is missed. John Minear in Nellysford, VA

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:18 AM

Another great man gone. My thoughts are with Susan and all who loved him. I am so very, very sorry. R. I. P.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: voyager
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:19 AM

Thank you for your life in music Dick Greenhaus.
You have been an inspiration to us all.
Condolences to Susan and the family.

voyager

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,ex-member
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:26 AM

He was a good guy, he very kindly helped me track down some recordings I couldn't find otherwise.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Felipa
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:26 AM

condolences, Susan. Thanks so much to you and Dick for creating this resource and online community.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Elmore
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:26 AM

This feels like a loss for all of us. Rest in Peace.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:37 AM

I never knew Duck, except as a result of his work on the DT database, CAMSCO and the rest. But those are enough to have made a profound impression on me.



Honestly, I am starting to feel nervous every time I look at the top half of Mudcat these days. So many names, so close together.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:38 AM

Dick. Autotext changed the original and this attempt to correct it. Apologies to all: I did type it correctly.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Rex
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 10:51 AM

I'm grateful for Dick getting this started way back when. Susan, I thank you for sharing him with all us 'Catters and am sorry for your loss.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GLoux
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 11:05 AM

I haven't been on Mudcat in quite a while, but having heard of Dick Greenhaus' passing, I have signed back in to express my gratitude for the work he put in here. I know I have taken advantage of his work many times in the past and probably will again.
-Greg Loux

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 11:54 AM

So sorry to hear this news, but so many thanks are due for the legacy of all the work he left, and thanks to Susan too.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 12:11 PM

Oh dear, sad news indeed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 12:38 PM

A great loss to all who knew him and also to those who benefited greatly from his enterprize. Sincere condolences to friends and family.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 12:50 PM

It was about 30 years ago at the Getaway - Camp Letts, just across the river from where we hold it now. Dick Greenhaus was there with a computer, which unheard of at our rustic retreat until this time. Until this point, lots of folks kept big notebooks of songs. He and a couple of others had decided to type theirs into their computers, combining them into something they called "The Digital Tradition." It already had over 500 songs in it, including traditional songs, parodies, and others. Dick said he'd give it away to anyone who could supply the two 5 1/4" floppy disks needed to hold it - which I did by mail. Later on I gave Dick all the songs I'd ever typed in, and he added them. Years passed, and the Digital Tradition found a home on Mudcat. I still use it at least once a month, and very often, if I'm looking for a lyric on Google, I'll find it right here, with a little "RG" at the bottom to indicate is was one of the ones Dick typed in himself.

Later Dick took his passions to CAMSCO Music, which released a few great albums and books, and sold many hundreds and thousands of them. I doubt he ever made any money at that - it was a labor of love for him.

Dick could be kind, complimentary, sometimes caustic but nearly always right, and he was a good friend who supported the music and musicians in equal measure.

As I sit and reflect on the Dick I knew through the years, a few images come to mind - Dick at that computer all that time ago, showing off the Digital Tradition (with his son Charlie juggling somewhere in the background), Dick standing at the CAMSCO table, making a suggestion for a CD or a book that I'd do well to pay attention to, Dick in my living room with his beat up Apollonio parlor guitar, singing "We Never Mention Aunt Clara."

There are relatively few people that you can legitimately say were at the core of starting a global community, but Dick really was at the foundation of ours. He leaves a gap that will never be filled, and a gift that will never be lost.

Thank you Dick. Rest in peace, old friend.

And thank you Susan for sharing the love, the music, and the caring that Dick brought to us. As great as our loss is, yours is greater, and you are on my heart very much today.

Dan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 12:54 PM

Well said, Dan.

Regards

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 01:02 PM

I put links to Dick's posts in Susan's first post.
Dick is one of the people who started the Digital Tradition. There's a load of history, but the quick version:
Dick Greenhaus and Susan of DT combined their lyrics collections, then Dennis Cook came into it. That became the DT. Max volunteered to host it, and created the forum so people could talk about folk music and surrounding topics.

-correct me, if I'm wrong-

If it weren't for any of those first happenings, I doubt Mudcat would exist.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 01:26 PM

Yes... as Dan Shatz notes, Dick was a feature at many, many FSGW Getaways. He came, shared and kibitzed even before the Digital Tradition. I still have several of the early floppies.... and I sat in the room at Dennis & Judy Cook's house when Susan & Dennis were comparing song notebooks and working out ways to share them. Dick soon decided to use his computer knowledge to make easy to copy disks... and away it went!
   When Dick bought CAMSCO from Wally McKnow, the amount of traditional folk music easily available mushroomed, and Dick & Susan kept it going- with a LOT of work- for a number of years. They loaded their car with heaps & piles of CDs & books and drove to many festivals...including the Getaway and the FSGW Mini-Festival where they often stayed with us.
I had a giant van and often took tables for them to set up at the Mini-fest. and got to hear at breakfast so many stories and odd songs the Dick knew from his days in New York in the 60s.
   Dick & Susan twisted our (Ferrara's & my) arms to finally go to the Mystic Seaport festival twice, for which we are eternally grateful.... both for the arm-twisting and providing room & board and help with sorting out how it worked.
   Dick KNEW stuff... and he knew PEOPLE... and he (and Susan) worked many, many long hours parlaying knowledge and contacts into books and CDs that brought folk-trad to so many of us.

   I could type for hours of the many gifts & good times spent with Dick & Susan... and with Dick's son Charley.

...more later perhaps...

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,LEJ
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 02:05 PM

Dick, thanks for the guidance through the amazing world of traditional music. You always steered me right.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: nutty
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 02:17 PM

I was also fortunate enough to meet Dick and Susan on their visits to Whitby. As said many times before, although Mudcat was Max's baby. The contribution they made, particularly in the early days. made Mudcat a "go-to" place for info on songs tunes etc and helped to make me feel part part of our Mudcat family.

My condolences to Susan and the rest of Dick's family and friends.

I wrote these words to be said at my own funeral (when the time comes) but feel Dick would have agreed with the sentiment.

WHEN MY LIFE IS O'ER AND MY SPIRIT'S AT REST
AND THERE'S NOTHING ON EARTH THAT CAN SAVE ME
DON'T WEEP AND DON'T MOURN
SEND ME OFF WITH A SONG
AND REFLECT ON THE PLEASURE
THAT KNOWING YOU GAVE ME.

RIP Dick

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Charlie Greenhaus
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 02:35 PM

I know many of the names above and plenty I don't know but either way it is nice to see the outpouring. As we age our worlds get smaller and ofttimes it is hard to hold on to the fact that someone like my dad left such a big footprint.

I know him as Dad. Nothing spectacular except for what he did for me and the things he encouraged and enabled to allow me the life I have. DOD which used to stand for Dear Old Dad and eventually became Doddering old Dad had a biting sarcasm which I inherited (unfortunately without the ability to temper it when needed). When put on hospice in march his first response was " Does that mean I get more opioids?" and when I arrived to see him for the last time he noticed my black overcoat and asked "who's funeral I was going to?" with that snarky glint in his eye. Of course my response was to point out that there were plenty to choose from in the community.

In the past 3 years I put a lot of things on hold to spend the time with him to make his life a better place. We went for drives in every cool car I could lay hands on (a very large and varied collection), enjoyed the occasional beer and burger and talked a lot. We exercised in the pool and trash talked politics.

Unlike most of you, music was not a huge part of our relationship but our love of things mechanical and our appreciation of witty banter were things that we always came to. The getaway was a big part of my childhood and I was fortunate to be able to take Dick to Mystic in 2016 and 2017 as well as the getaway in '16.


Spending time with him and Susan these past few years has been an interesting journey and one I wouldn't have missed. While sad, the time has come to say goodbye and knowing that he was loved and cared for my so many makes it all the sweeter.

Thank you all,

Charlie Greenhaus

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 02:53 PM

Let me add myself to this list of people who are saddened by this news. Susan, my heart goes out to you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:44 PM

Very sad news. My condolences to Susan, Dick's family, and friends.
He made major contributions to the folk community by republishing some important recordings, and most of all those classics of folkmusic scholarship and the monographs.
It was always a pleasure to hear him perform, and to chat about the
sources.
Dick was one of the few remaining links to the post war world of folk
revival, People's Songs, the hootenanny's - Leadbelly, Guthrie, Seeger
and so many others.
Sorry for your passing - rest in Peace!
Thomas.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Jody f
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 03:45 PM

I am oh so sorry. Hugs to you both, Susan and Charley.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Monique
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 04:00 PM

So sorry. My condolences to family and friends.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Hollowfox
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 04:12 PM

Susan and Charlie, I'm so sorry to hear this. I only got to see him at Old Songs, and there wasn't much time to visit at the CAMSCO booth, as he was always busy. His encyclopedia knowledge and his enthusiasm always made it worth the wait. I'll miss those (too brief) times.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: bbc
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 04:37 PM

Oh, Susan, I'm so sorry to hear this news! Thank you for posting it, here, in this community! Many of us would never have met or formed the lasting relationships we have, but for you & Dick & the Digital Tradition! I expect that many, like me, wandered into the mudcat forum, after searching for song lyrics! What a great contribution Dick made to the folk community! I sympathize with your loss & hope to be seeing you, out & about, before too long! If you are in my area, please feel free to visit!

I don't know if I will be able to attend the memorial, but I'd like to be kept in the loop! I'll PM you.

Love,

Barbara

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 04:55 PM

Deepest condolences to family, friends, and lovies.

~Greg & Susan Hinton

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:04 PM

Very sorry to read this. I was privileged to meet Dick and Susan in Whitby, and Dick's passing is a great loss to folk music as well as to his family and friends.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:25 PM

I met him in Whitby too - I can still see him in my mind, in a busy street heading for a song session. He made an enormous contribution to our lives.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Charmion
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:42 PM

So sorry to see this, Susan. We have missed seeing Dick for a while now, understanding that his increasing frailty made it impossible for him to travel.

He made a great difference in our lives, for which we are very grateful. His passing is certainly the end of an era.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Nick
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 05:47 PM

Sad news

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: voyager
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 06:34 PM

Dick is pictured here (far right) with our Mudcat members (Barry, Sandy, Songster Bob) who we have lost in years gone by. What a hoot that was.

Group Photo - Mudcat+FSGW Getaway 1999

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: bbc
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:05 PM

Boy, that picture brings back a lot of memories! I'm bbc, middle left, one person in. That was the first Getaway that mudcatters attended. What a wonderful time!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Murray Callahan
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:28 PM

Susan, I'm so sorry about Dick - I'm glad we got to see him at Dick Levine's funeral - please keep me informed of plans for the memorial - I'm on Facebook and I believe we are friends - if not friend me! Please givel Charlie my condolences, too.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:49 PM

wow.. if I remember right, I took that 1999 photo with the first digital camera I had...so many memories.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: bbc
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:57 PM

Thanks, Bill! My one & only Getaway. Lots of friends & memories!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 11:11 PM

I tried to enlarge Bill's 1999 photo, but it's less than ideal. 1999 digital cameras didn't make detailed photos very well. Click to display (joeweb)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 01:18 AM

Susan, my sincere condolences on your loss. I enjoyed Dick's company the times I met him. A wonderfully knowledgeable man who will be missed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Brian Peters
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 05:09 AM

Susan, this is such sad news. Dick made such a huge contribution towards making the music we all love available to all, and I'm still telling my workshop classes to go and buy the reprints of great books like Bronson that he facilitated, and explaining how lucky they are that someone took the trouble to do it! We owe him a great debt for that labour of love. I will not forget him.

And of course I have many happy memories of the house concerts I played for you and Dick in your home. Sending my love and condolences.

Brian

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Max
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 08:50 AM

My mentor, my friend, Dick meant a whole lot to me. I'm so sad and so sorry he's gone. Much love to you Susan.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 09:03 AM

I remember Dick for his great personal kindness, his fiery devotion to the music we all love, for CAMSCO, for so much more. I mourn his passing.

Bob

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 12:21 PM

Sad news. A great loss for Mudcat and the wider world of folk music.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 12:28 PM

Very sad news. He contributed so much to Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,maryrrf
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 02:56 PM

He was a warm and wonderful person, and he contributed so much to traditional music in so many ways. Deepest condolences, Susan, on the loss of your wonderful life partner.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 07:10 PM

Our love to Susan and her family. Dick will be well remembered.

Charlie Ipcar

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: CupOfTea
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 07:32 PM

I feel fortunate to have encountered Dick a few times, Getaways, Old Songs, and at the only time he got talked into bringing Camsco's riches to one of the last ever Kent State Folk Festivals. Possibly Dick Swain had something to do with that - I remember being so overwhelmed at the recorded bounty there, even though I didn't know who near enough of them were, that I got Dick Swain to select a few for me to get. I never had enough money to get a quarter of what I wanted from his booth each time.

The value of a person who puts music and songs into the hands of others is immense; that Dick did it in so many different ways makes it impossible to calculate the breadth of his influence. Most sorry for this loss, Susan & Dick's family, but how splendid to be around such a soul for all your years together! He shall not be soon forgotten.

Joanne in Cleveland.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus 1929-2019
From: GUEST,Freda Underhill
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 09:51 PM

Avery sad loss for you, Susan, and for the folk community around the world.

Condolences and best wishes from Sydney, Australia.

Freda Underhill

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: GUEST,Susi Cohen (Dick's stepdaughter)
Date: 09 Jan 19 - 06:28 PM

Thank you all for the outpouring of love, condolences, stories, and memories.
Dick has been my stepdad since 1964. I spent many of my early years at folk festivals and always loved the late night sings around camp fires.
Charlie and I were able to take Dick to Mystic this year and it was a lovely time. The best part was finding 3 strapping young lads (and brother Charlie) to hoist Dick up the stairs to do the after show sing in the hall across the street!
Thanks to all the people who made Dick and Susan's work so meaningful. Thanks for sharing all the stories and love.
Life is a journey and death a destination. The "dash" in between is what matters.
Much love to all,
Susi Cohen

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: vectis
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 04:36 AM

I met Dick and Susan at Whitby a couple of times and got to chat with him briefly. His contribution to Mudcat and folk in general will not be forgotten. GNU Dick and condolences to the family.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: Trevor
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 10:15 AM

So sorry to hear of this.

I met Dick many moons ago and he was a real gent. In my early days with the forum (1999?) he was an inspiration. I don't visit here so much these days but will be forever grateful for the Digitrad.

Txx

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 02:42 PM

I haven’t been by in a while and just saw this very sad news. The folk music world has lost an invaluable contributor. The world is a poorer place in his absence.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: GUEST,Severn
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 04:04 PM

A valued friend, an advisor on questions, one whose musical recommendations to me never failed, one instrumental in keeping many valuable recordings and books in print and making many more available to those at events and festivals.

Dick, the human being and major contributor to the availability of the music we want /need to hear will be greatly missed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: Crowhugger
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 07:04 PM

Oh gosh, R.I.P., Dick. My sincere condolences to you Susi, Susan, and Charlie, and to your family. Dick's DT has been and remains one of my go-to resources. In so many ways I'll never personally know, the world is a poorer place for his passing. I wish I'd known him in person.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: voyager
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 07:37 PM

Dick's parody - Truth About the Roseville Fair was a highlight for me at the FSGW Getaway '06 - https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=94554

TRUTH ABOUT ROSEVILLE FAIR (Bill Staines Parody)
------------------------------------------------

There's just one thing
'Bout country music,
If you don't know now
You'll learn right soon;
Anytime
There's a fiddle and a banjo
At least two of them
Will be out of tune.

cho:   Give me your E, said the fiddle to the banjo
       Or your G or D, I just don't care.
       And we sat around while the band was tuning
       All night long, at the Roseville Fair.

Well the mandolin
He never made it
And the bass was off
With a blonde somewhere
And the whole damn thing
It got downgraded
Frome "Roseville Good"
To "Roseville Fair."

It's a fine ole place
For cotton candy
And ice-cold beer
And burgers rare.
You can ride all night
On the painted ponies
But you just can't dance
At the Roseville Fair.

(dick greenhaus)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: GUEST,Bill Sables
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 08:08 PM

I first met Dick at the very first mudcat gathering at AnnaP's in Seabright New Jersey with Max, Bert, BBC, Allan Clark and a host of others. We couldn't believe that a group of people who had never met each other before could get on so well. Later we met up at BBC's and on many occasions at Old Songs. Dick and Susan then stayed with me in England whenever he went to Whitby, he never asked if he could stay he just knew he could and he was always most welcome. I recall the time when he returned from a trip to Scotland and his rental car was slightly scraped and scratched from driving on narrow roads on the wrong side, of the road, We polished most of the scratches out and it looked almost as good as new when we had finished. He wasn't the most important person in my life but every time someone mentioned his name I smiled and said "He's my Friend"
Rest In Peace Dick.
Bill Sables

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: bbc
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 09:38 PM

Well spoken, Bill!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 19 - 12:55 PM

RIP and... thanks.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: NOMADMan
Date: 13 Jan 19 - 01:13 PM

This is such sad news. I always enjoyed visiting with Dick at the festivals - Mystic, Old Songs, NEFFA... He always had a recommendation of some CD or book he thought I would like and he always got it right.

He deserves lots of thanks for finally getting Bronson back in print after so many years passed without that valuable resource available to researchers - and all those other collections as well. Dick was one of a kind and he will be missed.

John Mazza(NOMADMan)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: olddude
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 06:06 PM

Every time I visit another great one is gone. Thank you dick for all the joy you gave us

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 11:30 AM

Any YouTube with Dick singing? For a house memorial today.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: GUEST,Bill D
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 05:23 PM

I'm not sure I even have video of Dick from the Getaway.. somewhere, I have photos of the gathering at your house...

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 07:35 PM

Tonight, being Episcopalians, we remembered two dear friends and the son of a dear friend at a private Mass at our home in Ohio.

These persons departed this life just as my priest husband Greg retired (and immediately following his retirement) from active parochial ministry. A priest without an altar makes one wherever needed-- today, at our living room dinette while snow and icy rain fell in darkness outside the big picture window that table overlooks.

Our service followed the BCP Order for Burial used at many memorial services in our denomination, with communion-- and with music from unusual sources (since my autoharp is packed). We prayed strength and healing for the bereft, during the music and throughout.

In memory of Leo Pola we hummed along with a YouTube video where he's songleading a rousing song by a mutual friend, in his usual RenFaire garb:
https://youtu.be/kwQAmwn5-N8

In memory of Dick Greenhaus of The Digital Tradition which is hosted at www.mudcat.org, we took a trip down memory lane via a video showing Mudcat folkies including Dick and his partner Susan Friedman. All these Mudcatters typically participated in folkie weekends at our PA rectory:
https://youtu.be/ocjMckTtZ1Y

In memory of Josh Harrigan Logan, we prayed through the Kontakion:
https://youtu.be/0ekoDO_4PBA

We gave thanks for these lives that touched our own.

~Susan Oldberg Hinton

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 20 Jan 19 - 11:29 AM

I tried to post this last night, but either Mudcat or my server wasn't cooperating.

What Dan Schatz and Jeri said...

I thought I'd posted back at the beginning, but I guess not. It's not that I haven't been thinking about the loss to our folk music community.

My heartfelt condolences, Susan. I know Tom (Curmudgeon) and Dick corresponded frequently. I had less direct contact, but I am so very glad that I'd had the opportunity to meet Dick (and you) and be a part of some of those wonderful conversations at the 2005 Getaway.

Hugs,

Linn

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 06:51 AM

How are you doing, Susan?

<3

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: Susan of DT
Date: 24 Feb 19 - 05:56 AM

The memorial will be held Saturday afternoon April 6 at our retirement community, Brittany Pointe Estates, in Lansdale PA. We hope the weather will have settled sown by April. I am calling it "Dick Greenhaus: Memories and Music". I hope that a number of you will come to celebrate his life. Lansdale is a Northern suburb of Philadelphia accessible from the Northeast extension of the PA turnpike and SEPTA Regional Rail. I will talk to a local motel for those who will want to stay over night and will arrange a supper on campus that night. There are some extra CDs and a few instruments that need new homes. Let me know if you want to be kept in the loop, including your email addresses.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: GUEST,Abby Sale
Date: 24 Feb 19 - 12:47 PM

Gee.

As was said above, expected but a gut-wrenching shock anyway.

It's funny - ALL those reflections above of what Dick taught, gave, shared, made available, served as example - I'd have said all of them as well. Though not necessarily said as well as.

What I've very often remarked to others are things Dick taught me of music and also of how one might live life. Life changing lessons.

My sadness to you, Susan, and to All. And my pleasure at having known the man.

Abby Sale

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: GUEST,Guest Azizi Powell
Date: 24 Feb 19 - 06:00 PM

My heartfelt condolences to you Susan.

And thank you Dick for all that you shared with others here on Mudcat and elsewhere.

Rest in peace.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Feb 19 - 08:28 PM

Lady Hillary and I expect to be there ef'n the creeks don't rise.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: GUEST,Lorraine Boyd-Thompson
Date: 25 Feb 19 - 08:34 AM

Susan,

So sorry to hear of your loss, my condolences to you and the family. May Dick Rest in Peace!

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 25 Feb 19 - 09:52 AM

Oh SUsan, I am so saddened to hear this news.. We had so much fun playing together . I wish I lived closer and or had the kind of life where I could get away from the shop a little more . Like Bill Sables said we only got together a few times but each one was magic and life afirming . He is a life long friend .. Hugs to you ... <><><><><>< Guy

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: GUEST,momnopp
Date: 25 Feb 19 - 10:36 AM

I, too, am immensely grateful for the contributions Dick has made to the lives of so many of us. Rest well, Dick, and love to Susan, Charlie and family.
Peace,
JudyOM
(momnopp)

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: bbc
Date: 25 Feb 19 - 08:27 PM

Hi, Susan,

I do expect to come, to support you & remember Dick. I will probably arrive Friday & leave Sunday.

Sending love,

Barbara

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: bbc
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 10:46 PM

Refresh. Folks, did you see that Susan posted the date & time for Dick’s memorial?

bbc

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Mar 19 - 09:05 PM

Susan sent a list of Dick's favorite songs that might be sung at the memorial. The list is to good to miss, so I post it here:

I am thinking of some of his favorite songs. Aunt Clara was a favorite of his: he said it put him through college singing it at fraternity parties. I will sing it, unless someone else wants to. His most recent favorite seemed to be Seven Beers with the Wrong Woman. Someone else can sing that one. Some of his other favorites were:

    Boomer Johnson
    Coal in the Stone
    Gol Darned Wheel
    Normandy Orchards
    Have Some Madeira
    The Tenderfoot
    Westport
    Their Way
    The Winner
    Your Time’s Coming
    Zebra Dun



Some of my favorite memorial songs are:

    Parting Glass
    What’s the Life of a Man
    When I Cross the Bar (Crossing the Bar?)
    Farewell Shanty (Haul away for Heaven)
    Fiddler’s Green



Dick and I have been leading the ukulele group here at Brittany, Hummin’ and Strummin’, named by the previous leader. We will play and sing two songs: Simple Gifts and Home on the Range, for Dick’s interest in Shakers and cowboys.

Dick Greenhaus will live forever!
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial Info
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 19 - 11:47 PM

Here are the details from Feb. 24.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: bbc
Date: 24 Mar 19 - 05:24 PM

Refresh. Memorial—April 6, 2019.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 25 Mar 19 - 06:15 AM

I am so sad to learn of Dick's passing. I have great memories of conversations with Duck and Sandy Paton from my years as a vendor at Old Songs. Generous with his time, generous with his knowledge.


Don Meixner

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: bbc
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 12:58 PM

I'm leaving, this Friday (April 5) for Pennsylvania, to celebrate the life of Dick Greenhaus. If you can't join us in person, how about sending a note to Susan. Without Dick & Digital Tradition, I would have never come to mudcat or had a personal relationship with the Patons.

bbc

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 03 Apr 19 - 12:14 AM

My condolences. I really enjoyed meeting him at Mystic some years ago, and reading his posts here at Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: bbc
Date: 04 Apr 19 - 05:31 AM

Refresh. Heading out, tomorrow, for Pennsylvania.

bbc

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: Peter T.
Date: 04 Apr 19 - 01:07 PM

Just tuned in (in time) to find out. Dick was a giant, and I was privileged to meet him once in the early Mudcat days.

We give to a tradition, and then we find that it gives to us, and one of the things it gave to us was Dick Greenhaus.

I study societies that have been sustainable for at least 1,000 years -- and if I was asked what was the one thing they had in common it would be traditions of ancestor worship.

Rest happy, ancestor.

yours ever,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: GUEST,Jon Bartlett
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 01:22 PM

Dick and Carol once graced our stage in Vancouver BC. He told me at the time when I asked him about the DT that he never expected that of all his life's work he'd be remembered for this wonderful creation.

Rika and I send our sad condolences to Susan - and wish we could be with you all at this memorial.

Jon Bartlett

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: Abby Sale
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 02:27 PM

I am still dumbfounded. I'm deeply sad I can't be in Pennsylvania today at the memorial.
I had for Dick more fondness and respect that almost anyone I've met.

Of course I learned folk song from him but also a sense of character and morality and restraint.
I miss his presence.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: bbc
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 10:03 PM

You were missed, Abby! It was a good gathering—music, hugs, remembrance, appreciation, love, & laughter.

bbc

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: EBarnacle
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 11:56 PM

Definitely a good crowd. Lady Hillary and I met up with acquaintances from the cat and renewed old friendships. Not as much music as we expected but a lot of great conversation. Much too short a day.

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 08:55 PM

It was important to be there and meet people I had never met...and re-meet people I had not seen in ages.... some, like bbc, since that 1999 picture.

EBarnacle & Lady Hillary were a delight... and the only time I had met wsiwyg/Susan and Greg was at a Mudgathering at their place when Dick & Susan were there. Max spoke eloquently, as did Susan of DT, who shared so many years with Dick making the Digital Tradition and amazing resource. Songs were sung in honor of Dick and stories I had never heard were told.
Because Dick & Susan had been regular attendees at the FSGW Getaway, a bunch of us from 'down South' made the trip.

   Such a brief few hours to absorb so many memories & thoughts...

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 09:44 PM

What Bill said, and be still my beating heart-- Rita hugged with me (and I'm totally healthy so it was safe).

It was just a privilege to be there.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: GUEST,Helen Engelhardt
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 01:29 PM

April 5, 2019

Dear Susan,
I am so sorry for the loss of your life companion, and wish I could be there for the tribute you are holding for him tomorrow. He was one of the people I looked forward to seeing , along with you, at your table filled with fascinating books, especially the series dedicated to a particular song’s history or other scholarly information, and various unexpected recordings. He was a very important part of the texture of the gatherings we all, as individuals created and still create together.
My thoughts will be with you tomorrow,

Helen Engelhardt

Subject: RE: Obit: Dick Greenhaus (1929-2019) Memorial - Apr. 6
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 19 - 01:36 PM

Art Rosenbaum

Belatedly, condolences to Susan, and thanks for my brief but productive association with Dick, who had the will and perseverance to publish our project, "The Mary Lomax Ballad Book." Sad that Ed Cray, who edited the work, just passed away.