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BS: science surprises

Ed T 23 Jan 19 - 04:36 PM
Donuel 23 Jan 19 - 05:02 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Jan 19 - 05:24 PM
Donuel 24 Jan 19 - 10:25 AM
Senoufou 24 Jan 19 - 10:30 AM
Donuel 24 Jan 19 - 11:31 AM
Mr Red 24 Jan 19 - 06:48 PM
Steve Shaw 24 Jan 19 - 07:07 PM
DMcG 25 Jan 19 - 03:20 AM
Donuel 27 Jan 19 - 12:28 PM
robomatic 27 Jan 19 - 01:29 PM
Donuel 27 Jan 19 - 06:31 PM
BobL 28 Jan 19 - 03:23 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Jan 19 - 04:54 AM
Donuel 28 Jan 19 - 09:59 AM
punkfolkrocker 28 Jan 19 - 10:06 AM
Donuel 28 Jan 19 - 11:55 AM
Donuel 29 Jan 19 - 11:50 AM
Donuel 30 Jan 19 - 08:46 AM
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Jack Campin 06 Feb 19 - 06:51 AM
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Donuel 08 Feb 19 - 01:04 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 04:36 PM

Why is gold more concentrated in some areas, versus being (kinda) evenly distributed throughout the Earths surface?


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 05:02 PM

Gold being heavy has a tendency to sink while lighter elements want to float. Deep upwellings from impacts, mountain building to volcanic eruptions brings gold upwards. My theory is if an impact created the circle of fire*, deeper stuff came up if it was down there in the first place.
Where there is quartz there is sometimes gold but so is fool's gold. There are probably better theories about goldmining and origins of gold. Then there could be rare asteroids.

* some think the circle of fire is a massive impact site where the moon came from, composed of Earth+Theo when rock debris was pushed into orbit.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 05:24 PM

The lunar eclipse was absolutely beautiful from my spare bedroom window, which overlooks the Atlantic. I got some quite nice pics, showing the moon in its true colours, but nowhere near as good as some of those in the papers. I only have a Canon Ixus with a 12X zoom but at least I have a pic and I had a half-hour of sheer wonderment in the middle of the night!


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 19 - 10:25 AM

One of the brightest surprises will be when Betelgeuse goes super nova    (the biggest star in Orion's belt). It will shine with the brightness of the fullmoon for 14 days and nights. For this to happen in your lifetime is less than one in a milion chance but people do win the lottery. This is a conscience guess and not a measure of my daily presience.

PS the super nova will not hurt Earth and to see it in your life time means it has already exploded.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jan 19 - 10:30 AM

I was rather surprised to learn the correct pronunciation of Betelgeuse. It seems it's 'Beetle Juice'. I've always said 'Bett-el-gurze'. I wonder what else I've been mispronouncing all my life?


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 19 - 11:31 AM

with a name like Beetle Juice they should have called it squashed duck gutz.

Its so big that if it were our sun its outer edge would go all the way out to Jupiter.
The only stars that will outlive our sun are red dwarves


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Jan 19 - 06:48 PM

The best time was on Aug 11 1999. There was a total solar eclipse visible from Cornwall

Did you notice the wind? And how cold it went? The two are related.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 19 - 07:07 PM

As I said, it went chilly. There wasn't much wind in any case that morning. To be honest, the event was so visually overwhelming that we didn't really notice the breeze. We were dead lucky, up there on Bodmin Moor. Patrick Moore was down the road in Falmouth and was completely clouded out. We thought we were doomed, but there was a miraculous parting of the clouds for just a few minutes after 11. I don't think that anyone else other than us on Sharp Tor saw totality from the ground. It was the second most brilliant moment of my life. No way am I ever going to tell you what numero uno was but it may have been a little more earthbound...


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jan 19 - 03:20 AM

Here is a different science "surprise."

Something like 55 years ago, I was taken to Battersea funfair and one of the exhibits was "The Invisible Man." This consisted of a large glass box like a shower enclousure and around the vertical edges were lights, perhaps fluorescent tubes. Members of the audience went into this - I had a go myself - and as the showman turned a dial the person faded from view and 'turned invisible.' fFrom inside thre was no visible change to the audience. From neither inside nor outside was there any visible change in the brightness of the lights or anything like that. There was not the space - nor the necessary cooperation - for it to be based on "Pepper's Ghost" being over 55 years ago it must have relied on fundamental physics, not some hi-tech approach.

I wonder if somehow it relied on total internal reflection, but to this day I haven't decided precisely how it was done.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 12:28 PM

When LIGO 1, 2 and 3 are combined with LEGGOS the resolution will be even better.

In a bizarre temporal accident at a successful science lab in Germany someone pressed the clock button on the microwave after making Instant coffee. Suddenly after 20 years of using the microwave, all of Time went backwards the amount of accumulated cooking time. Now the lab has patents for all inventions in the last five years.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 01:29 PM

Donuel:

"Energy" is a word with definite physical meaning. I don't know what Freud said or wrote about mental or psychic 'energy'. I only know what you wrote your post. Let's just put all that libido and conscious and unconscious energy into one big brain, yours for instance. Your brain according to physics has two types of energy. There's the kinetic energy in how fast your brain is moving at a given time. And there's the potential energy in how high above grade your brain is. The brain delivers its energy in the form of work done as its velocity goes from 'v' to '0'. An in the heat or work done when it is dropped to the floor. We would further have to look at how hight it bounced (eleastic collision) or if it went splat (inelastic collision).

As for conscious versus unconscious, my own theory is that the allegory of the human mind is an iceberg. The unconscious part is the iceberg below water level, and the roughly ten percent above the waterline is the conscious part, essentially dragged along with limited capacity to direct things, but always willing to make excuses. Every so often, the part below waterline loses mass on one side and the entire thing does a flip. Then new excuses emerge. These are called theories, revolutions, and explanations.

When two icebergs meet, they have what is called a 'frank exchange of views'.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 06:31 PM

If you punch it up and polish your post more, you might end up with a good stand up routine about the similar unconscious conversations of icebergs and NYC cocktail parties.

I was led to believe the brain itself uses food energy which is the equivalent of 3 peanuts per day. The energy from the rest of the food we eat goes mostly to our bodies that carries our brain around.


NOW LISTEN UP This is the third EXAMPLE of a cosmic topic that an MSN headline which has appeared days AFTER I discussed the topic in this thread.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/earths-collision-with-another-planet-led-to-creation-of-life-says-study/vi-BBSGCC1?ocid


IT PROVES ONE THING
I must be an editor of MSM headline science news.

OR

Surprise - I just have a unique general store psychic quirk.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: BobL
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 03:23 AM

OR

the coincidences are not really remarkable as the events concerned are more frequent than you'd think.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 04:54 AM

I flicked a crumb of toast off the home button of my iPad just as the Scotsman on the radio said the word "crevasse." That's never happened before and will almost certainly never happen again. What a coincidence!


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 09:59 AM

Other explanations are the designer of MSN science followed this thread or I have mentioned three times the number of subjects in this post improving my odds of guessing. Coincidence is passe'. Its serendipity today since I believe it allows for quantum variability.

truth is my IP is going to show me results based on my inputs.
These apps will make us all feel a twinge of deja vu.
Comon you feel it too.
Don't you?

Facebook and google matches commercial transactions in our name from computers other than our own. These Ad apps were the beginning of us losing our sovereign control even to our own national elections. The susceptibility of the human mind to 'suggestion' is directed at YOU in new and powerful ways, whether you choose to see it or not. imo


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 10:06 AM

That's nothing...

Both me and my old mum, who lives about 15 miles away, have bowel problems...

Many is the time we phone each other to find we've both been sat on the bog at the very same exact time,
or both need to go pretty damn quickly as soon as we put the phone down...

How's that for strange coincidences...!!!???

very weird telecrapathic communications over the ether...????


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 11:55 AM

Dear Mr. Crapalot,
Get well soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 19 - 11:50 AM

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/09jun_bigsurprise


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 19 - 08:46 AM

If one speaks in terms of CPT transformation, the speed of causation as proven by Lorenz, electrons go back in time or that gravity is a weak force because it spreads out in other dimensions most people would get rather confused in a hurry. Still regular lay English is enough to discuss these things in terms other than its all a crock of shit.

So for the truly curious I will PM possible answers and questions in hopes of satisfying my own curiosity.


The one true surprise in science is the true nature of reality.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 19 - 09:06 AM

For example antigravity although real is far from intuitive human understanding. It is math.
A complex exploration


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 06:51 AM

Flying squirrels fluoresce hot pink


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 19 - 12:49 PM

Wow, did we have a surprise in high school! Do you know what happens if you flush sodium metal down the toilet?


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 19 - 01:04 PM

More metals other than sodium will do that. Others will do that in ultra slow motion. Some things will behave that way at super sonic speeds.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: olddude
Date: 09 Feb 19 - 04:08 PM

New science alert they found a cure for jello


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 09:32 AM

Mad cow disease is the cure for jello, making jello too dangerous to eat.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Feb 19 - 11:26 PM

Why do they call it PMS? Because "mad cow disease" was already taken.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 04:27 AM

We sometimes pinched a drop or two of mercury during Science experiments to take home and mess around with. The teacher would put some on each lab bench, and we were fascinated by how it rolled about in shiny globules under our fingers.
When I think how dangerous that was, and how (I imagine) mercury is never issued to pupils during Science lessons nowadays, I shudder!


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 11:42 AM

I played with mercury too, if we broke a thermometer.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 11:50 AM

You're Ok Its the mercury salts that will get you
MERCURY HAS LONG BEEN USED as a medicine to treat various diseases, such as syphilis and typhoid fever, or parasites. Certainly a treatment with such a "powerful" medicine impressed patients, and when poisoning symptoms appeared they could always be blamed on worsening of the original disease. Dentists made fillings of Merc

The people who use Mercury as medicine are called conservatives or 'the late'.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 06:08 PM

You can be over half a million days old and be in good shape.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 06:13 PM

Opps that was hours


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 09:23 PM

Lewis and Clark took 50 dozen on their expedition.

“Rush’s pills,” otherwise known as “Thunderclappers,” combined calomel and jalap into an explosive cathartic. Calomel (six parts mercury to one part chlorine) was used as a purgative and jalap as a laxative. The depleting aspect of this medication was thought to rid the body of any “morbid” elements contained mainly in the blood.

These were called Thunderclappers for their effect. The L&C route has been traced by the excess of mercury in soil in places they stopped -- sometime, I think, for good reason!


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 12:21 PM

NASA admitted this week that the Mars Observer roving robot had died.
It died back in June but you know how robots sometimes self resurrect.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 08:04 PM

Geneticly redesign the human being. What would you edit in your genetic code? In others?

Women would no longer have to carry breasts around for a lifetime but only get gene treatments for pregnancy


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 07:29 AM

In a Siberiaan cave bones were found of of a girl that was the offspring of two different species of man from a Neanderthal father and a Denosovian mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 12:43 PM

The 'missing mass' conundrum is being answered by WHIM which is wispy hot gas filaments that is hard to detect. The rest of the mass is probably accelerated beyond what we will ever be able to see already.imo


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Feb 19 - 08:59 AM

Pregnancy, or rather delivery, could cause breast growth without supplementary treatments. Works for lactation already. But why not have boobs? Are they such a biurden to you?


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 19 - 09:52 AM

Magritte did a painting of female attributes hanging in a closet. Wanda Sykes has a routine where she can leave her 'sex' in a drawer.
Concepts of equality gone wild for the metoo era.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 19 - 10:12 AM

This morning I invented a new birth control for the 7 women who prefer a normal menstrual cycle but do not want children.

In normal conception the first sperm to arrive activates a chemical signal that immediately fuses the surface of the egg to NOT allow other sperm to penetrate the surface. Duplicate that chemical signature and make a delivery system. All the eggs remain impenetrable for a time.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 19 - 10:20 AM

Standard birth control pills are large quantities of hormones.
Those Birth control pills work by emitting naturally-occurring hormones estrogen and progestin to prevent pregnancy. These hormones stop sperm from fertilizing an egg by stopping ovulation. ... The hormones in the pill also thicken cervix mucus, meaning it is more difficult for the sperm to get to the egg.

I like my idea but it has never been researched.
Fortunately my wife is in charge of research.


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Subject: RE: BS: science surprises
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 19 - 09:59 AM

There is so much hormonal birth control in the water sanitation system that it presents a challenge to conception. But another form could create similar problems.


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