BS: 2020 election: thank you, next

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 19 - 02:33 PM

By our own hand some big things can only be done with government.
How we wrest government away from the self enriching ass holes is a never ending battle. This is why executive power should only go to those who do not want it instaed of the power greedy. Its a bit like the first lesson in Harry Potter regarding the Sorcerer's stone.

Our stone is the Constitution that was carefully constructed to counter the proclivities of the criminal minded. Beware anyone who calls the Constitution phoney or fake.

Apparently we need to teach civics again

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 19 - 09:06 AM

Don't be fooled Big Brother can't save us. Not even the next big daddy. Our salvation lies within ourselves, not the lies of a big boss. Our own ingenuity will make our efforts great. MAGA is a bumper sticker for victimhood but we will not remain victim. We are creatures of opportunity. Sure the system is rigged and lied about. It has always been rigged by lies. So what We are a nation of immigrants who have consistently ignored the rigging.
You won't let us join your club? @$(*& you. We will start our own lub. You won't let us go to your school? %!*^ you w' mqke our own school. You won/t let us have an income like yours *#$@& you we make it another way. You won't give us a chance here ? F%@#$ you we will go elswhere
You want to know what makes America great> I got 2 words for you.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 19 - 08:32 AM

edit
Gabbard and
Iians

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Iains
Date: 21 Oct 19 - 02:17 PM

I wonder what Pelosi and Schiff are doing discussing Syria in Jordan.
Is Trump going to arrest them for violating the Logan Act?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 19 - 01:44 PM

Big lips? Prominent brow? Wide nose?

Gallard has a bug up her glass.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Oct 19 - 01:37 PM

I would just as soon say bye-bye to contenders
Julian Castro and Corey Booker.
They will, and do, serve well in other offices,
but I don't want either one in the Oval Office.

Castro has a hair-trigger temper,
which would better be channeled elsewhere.

And Corey Booker looks like a cartoon villain --
something to do with his mouth.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 19 - 02:20 PM

Lucy holding the football to kick is the United States, Charley is the Kurds.
The US has betrayed the Kurds since Nixon, Bush 1&2 and Trump.
I'm surprised folks are surprised. Even Pat Robertson exclaimed his displeasure which allowed McConnel to criticise the Turkish advance.
Now 18% of Republicans favor impeachment.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 05:04 PM

In answer to your question, Mrrzy,
would you believe:

Charles Dickens?!
I can hardly believe it myself!

This was published in 1836 and Dickens spelled it
"Kye-bosk."
The name of the short story was
"Seven Dials,"
which is an area -- notorious, I believe --
of London.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 11:17 AM

Younger than any of the 3 Democratic candidates mentioned above that is.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 11:04 AM

I think Biden's age is starting to show, he appeared a bit frail in the speech he gave last week, on a debate stage he might be overwhelmed by the big orange bully and this country (and the world) can't afford to lose this election to Trump. Bernie, with a bad ticker, would be about 86 at the end of a 2nd term and Warren would be 78, although she seems to be the most vigorous of those listed above. Are we trying to recreate the Politburo. I don't think I'm an ageist but look at Reagan during his 2nd term and he was younger than any of them when he took office.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 10:35 AM

He's now a heartbeat away from the candidacy.

Republicans are claiming, to no avail, that Trump is only seeking to eradicate corruption world wide. That the target of his foriegn
investigation deals are of his own political opponents, is only a mere coincidence.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Oct 19 - 03:35 PM

So who else thinks this heart attack has put the kibosh [what *is* a kibosh?] not only on his own chances but on Biden's? A Can't trust an old person, they might up and die on you, kind of thinking.
Glad ole Bernie pulled through, though. I like him best, he's just unelectable.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Oct 19 - 01:57 PM

On Tuesday, 1 October,
Bernie Sanders responded to chest pains
by having tests run,
and the diagnosis was a blocked artery;
he has since had a procedure inserting two stents.
He is said to be recovering well.

Bernie Sanders undergoes surgery

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 06:56 PM

Yes there is a crack in the Trump anti democracy dam.

When majority leader of the Senate, Mc Connell, (Moscow Mitch) typically called on Republicans to vote against disclosure, all 100 Senators voted for disclosure of the whistle blower's urgent alarm.
wow


Today Trump called the whistle blower a spy that should be summarily shot like in the good ol days.

Rudy Gulliani started yellin SHUT UP over and over again on live TV in an apparent nervous breakdown.

Things are 'getting' desperate.


If the Ukranian president really was a comic he should submit the Steele dossier with the name Trump changed to Biden's dead son and send it to Trump c/o the Senate.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Sep 19 - 07:15 PM

The fecal matter has interacted with the rotary oscillator for Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Sep 19 - 06:52 PM

So here is Joe Biden,
busy enough, thank you, with
a campaign for US President,
and now this report / memo is coming out
about Trump asking the Ukraine leader to investigate Biden?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 19 - 12:14 PM

I guess that puts me in the middle 65% of Americans.


'Love me I'm a moderate'
song by Dill Oches

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 19 - 11:45 AM

I have no love for left wing political correctness; snowflakes, trigger words and speech cancellors.

I have scorn for Trump Tactics such as:

simple denial
simple whataboutism
simple Yeah I did it but its not bad
Yeah it was bad but its not illegal
Yeah it can't be illegal because the President can do anything.

- this is where democrats apologize for all the fuss -

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 23 Sep 19 - 06:44 AM

Reporter to Buttigieg: How do you pronounce your name?

Buttigieg: Pete

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Sep 19 - 07:44 PM

gillymore... yes, I actually have one of those wine stoppers I use on bottles. Maybe I will go to the ENORMOUS trouble of getting out one of my 3-4 funnels and trying that. ;>) ?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Sep 19 - 07:25 PM

Just tuned the television to
"Love Actually"
with Hugh Grant
as PM
and Billy Bob Thornton
as US President.


An improvement over the present twosome?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Sep 19 - 05:22 AM

Yes Bill, Jai-Alai comes in a can and when I don't finish a whole one I funnel it into an empty beer bottle and seal it with one of those wine bottle stoppers with a lever on top but then I know that seems like a lot work after beer thirty.
One IPA I like real well which I've only seen in a bottle is Racer 5 from Bear Republic which I can usually find at Total Wine.

Oh and, Go Buttigieg, the more I hear from him the more I like.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Sep 19 - 05:38 PM

gillymor....Hmmm.. one more IPA to track down.

...but it is part of the new trend to put **good** beer in cans. I tried a couple, and they were good, but I often drink only a half when I'm just sitting at home. I can easily re-seal a bottle until tomorrow... not as easy with cans. I will see how it goes, but there are 7-8 good IPAs I can get in a bottle.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Sep 19 - 02:52 PM

The former CEO of Starbuck's
has announced that
he will not run for US President, after all, as an independent.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: saulgoldie
Date: 05 Sep 19 - 02:19 PM

Joe,
I think it is much more nuanced than that. *Some* people who are not white are "conservative" in that they think you should persecute LGBT folks and prevent women from making their own birth control decisions. That "family values" thing. And some would vote based on that to the exclusion of real bread and butter issues.

Defense? You mean that people of color like wars? Or maybe they just like military spending? Like the kind where non-whites sign up for the military with the promise of citizenship, and then run into the Republican buzz saw of xenophobia? You mean like that Latino and other minority support?

But there is also the people of color support that profoundly feels the abuse of workers lower on the ladder, and the general abuse by the power structure. An whole lot of the recent surge in union membership has been some of these people. Oh, and they are most likely to be the victims of voter suppression by Republicans, including Trump.

Well, we certainly can speculate. Personally, I would like to see Iowa and New Hampshire be "decertified" as the first-crack-at-it field reducers. And I would like to see a much shorter campaign season. I don't think IA and NH do best by the rest of the country. And I don't think our elongated campaigns give us the best possible outcomes.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 03:20 PM

At this point I'm pulling for Warren but Biden is assiduously courting black voters and doing very well in the polls with them, the older ones anyway. But I agree with Bill that anti-Trump sentiments might be the prime motivator for minorities. Trump slagging Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans via Twitter just as Dorian was approaching couldn't have done him much good with Latinos, not to mention all his other overtly racist remarks and policies.
(Here's a hot tip, Bill- Jai-Alai by Cigar City, an IPA that rivals DH 60 Minute)

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 02:52 PM

Joe.. that is, on the surface, obvious... but it's also kind of vague. Who, except members of a community, DO to **understand**? No group, black, Latino, Muslim... whatever.. is homogeneous.
What does "address those concerns" mean? All that Democrats... or any candidate... can do is try to have a platform that is as fair and comprehensive as possible. The major Democratic candidate I have seen have appeared at minority town halls and discussion groups to listen and clarify issues.
   Personally, I feel that a large % of minority groups will see their major concern to be anything but Trump, and that almost any Democrat who gets the nomination will probably be a huge step in the right direction.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 02:58 AM

I'm not sure that the Democratic candidates understand black and Latino and other minority voters. All of these groups are quite conservative - security and safety are their biggest concerns, and they need a candidate who can honestly address those concerns. I hope that the Democrats figure that out so that minority voters don't stay away from the polls.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Sep 19 - 09:38 PM

Sorry, Donuel, a word is not a phrase. Signed, Alert Pedant...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Sep 19 - 10:18 PM

It's Hillary. And in 2020, hopefully it will be Elizabeth.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Sep 19 - 10:15 PM

Now I hear that
South Carolina's Mark Sanford
is 'quietly talking to people' about his chances
at running for President on the Republican ticket.

This is a former South Carolina governor
and there are some South Carolina journalists
who are thoroughly disgusted with the man.
Going so far as to suggest
that he might do better in the
famously early New Hampshire primary
than in his home state ...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Sep 19 - 01:45 PM

Well, after Brexshit I posted "Be Afraid, America, Be Afraid."

Now. - From the outside, and knowing NOW where all the Fakebook shit emanated from, and why** ..................
I don't see any impediment to another 4 years of Twitler. Not a prediction, but a statement that we are living in interesting times and predictions are mostly valueless.

** Syria, Crimea, etc etc. Russia needs to divide and conquer - minds, and that is why Fakebook is so relevant. Hilary's e-mails - who broke the news? Ask yourself, how much is Twitler worth to the Russians?

Meanwhile we have a constitutional crisis looming here in the UK. Political tactics looking more like criminality.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Aug 19 - 08:13 PM

Must? No... those who didn't qualify for the debate stage have paid up and will be listed on primary ballots... but barring some upheaval, are simply running to push an agenda or for attention by the eventual winner.
   Even 10 is hard for the public to follow seriously. Get down to the 3 who caught the public's eye and wait for the big change in primary schedules. Several states got tired of having so much be decided by Iowa and N. Hampshire.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Aug 19 - 07:03 PM

Now the question is posed,
must a candidate for the next presidential election
participate in the primary-election debates?

CNBC on this autumn's debates

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Feb 19 - 08:55 PM

Susan Collins, Republican Congressperson from the state of Maine,
voted for Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court.
The report today says
that out-of-state donations
have boosted her presidential campaign fundraising ever since that vote.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 19 - 07:49 PM

my catch phrase: Truthfulness

Democrats are not just running against Trump but also against his tweetosphere
and the Russians. There is talk that the Chinese are envious of Putin's internet methods.


Attention: some one should tell Trump that Rap artists are known as 'Rappers'
not Rapists.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 19 - 03:09 PM

Cory Booker   catch phrase: I believe in US.
Kamela Harris catch phrase: We are better than this.
Donald Trump catch phrase: Make America great again.
Starbucks guy catch phrase: Wake up and smell the coffee.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 19 - 12:02 PM

Despite being a narcissist Trump may not be as guilty as we are led to believe. When in the hands of the Russians it is possible that advanced interrogation techniques were involved.

When you think of advanced interrogation techniques you might think of painful sadistic fearful abuse as in medieval torture, Nazi techniques or US Abu grab experiments. But 'advances' have been made in the biochemical and intelligence world that will turn people in directions far easier than with punitive techniques.

A combination of Oxytocin and other agents in association with familiar situations, that constitute training, is an interrogation technique that can be invisible to the subject. In short you can 'kill' him with kindness.

Much has been said about a Manchurian candidate President. I for one more than believe it is possible , I believe it is likely. I do have a unique background to come to this conclusion so if you conclude differently there is a reason.


Meanwhile in the non Putin world, Booker has announced his candidacy for POTUS.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 19 - 04:43 PM

Trump needs this election. He has always been a small minded con man and chiseler of the working man and banks alike.
As POTUS, he ran with the big boys for the first time in his life with promises by Putin and friends to join the Panama paper crowd of wealthy criminals. The Donald was accustomed to hiring cheap taxi cab criminals like Cohen to do his bidding. Visions of vast fortunes hidden away are nothing more than paid to play lifting of sanctions. The oil investments were not meant to be.
He needs more time to give Putin what he wants but as usual he is left wanting and actually becomes deeper in debt to Russia.
His failing?
While Donald has practiced his whole life he is simply not as good a liar as Putin.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jan 19 - 02:40 PM

And now there is something about a presidential run
by the former CEO of
Starbucks
?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jan 19 - 05:17 AM

and we thought Brexshit was a huge:

1) Joke
2) Mess

(tick any/all of the above)

America - we are one year ahead of you this time - again!

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 10:44 AM

Even if Trump goes to jail he will only be punished with a wiffle ball and chain in Otisville* prison. Not doing TV interviews and tweeting is considered cruel and unusual punishment for the Donald.

*rated 2 stars higher than any Trump Hotel.

Kushner will share Donald's cell.
Ivanka will sell unscented perfume in an empty bottle called Wish and
Donald Jr and Eric will become right wing folk artists called the Smothered Brothers.

Democrats will abolish the Electoral college and adopt a lottery to select any President but a Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 27 Jan 19 - 09:23 AM

Election Day in 2020 --
I haven't looked that far ahead,
but one wel-publicized astrologer has, calling it 4 November.
Said astrologer looked at the chart for that date.

And now warns that the brouhaha of 4 November 2020
could rival
the 2000 election with Dubya, Gore, and hanging chads.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jan 19 - 11:33 AM

Remember Chris Christie from New Jersey?
He was recently asked in public if he would run in 2020, and his answer was, Never say Never.

Right now he is promoting his new book about
the Trump brouhaha, with the title,
"Let Me Finish."

I would keep an eye on him. I don't think he's
anywhere near ready to throw in the towel, love him or hate him.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 01:11 PM

I'm gonna get flak for saying this. However.

We need Hillary Clinton alive and working hard for us.
That's why I hope she moves on from
the Oval Office campaigns.
I fear the Oval Office would be the death of her.
It has been hard enough,
watching her face increasingly looking saggy and worn.

Subject: BS: 2020 election: thank you, next
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 11:54 AM

There's a hit song on the radio by that title,
in case you weren't aware:
"thank you, next."
Very melodious and upbeat it is, too.

Anticipating the campaign to come, Vermont's Bernie Sanders
spent MLKJr.'s birthday in South Carolina.