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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Liam's Brother Date: 28 Dec 99 - 08:22 PM If we are talking "folk" rather than Traditional, I vote for these 10...
Bill Monroe |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: fulurum Date: 28 Dec 99 - 07:53 PM woody and arlo guthrie, pete seeger, tommy makem, the clancys, the weavers,harry chapin, or anyone who is willing to sing out against the wrongs in this world and bring peoples attention to said problems is pretty influential to me. whether they are singing in carnegie hall or on a street corner. so to all the folksingers past present and fiture, thank you. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Mbo Date: 28 Dec 99 - 07:02 PM Would that be Duchamp's "Nude Descending a Staircase, No.2" from 1912? Sorry, it's part of being an Art Major... :] --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Jon Freeman Date: 28 Dec 99 - 06:47 PM Mbo, of course Donal Lunny was not only a member of Planxty, there was the Bothy Band and Moving Hearts... and I wonder how many bands and perfomers he has been involved with either playing or as a producer... a quick seach lists these for starters Paul Brady and Sharon Shannon, Loreena McKennitt and Màire Brennan, The Altan and Mary Black. Not only that but he is also credited with designing the Irish Bozouki. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Dec 99 - 06:39 PM Almost all blokes.
Let's hear it for Marie Lloyd.
And I reckon you'll still get further trying to start a sing-song with "My Old Man said Follow the Van" than with anything Bob Dylan or the Beatles wrote (apart possibly from "Yellow Submarine").
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: InOBU Date: 28 Dec 99 - 06:34 PM Melvin - the Goink - Smiepher - 1910 - 1962, a vertuoso on the Ukrainian Small Pipes and the alto sea turtle. He was said to influence, among others, Donal Lunney, Bing Crosby, Yo Yo Mah (how ever you spell it), Joe Joe Magher, Albert Einstien, and was a major post-humus influence on Albrect Durer. It was rumored that he was the modle for nude decending a staircase, and his rendition of The Mice are At It Again was a major influence behind the rock opera Tommy. The Goink gave his last performence, New Years Eve, 1962, when he gave his all, dieing on stage from a ruptured left pinkie finger, stating with his dying breath, anyone got a recipie for falaful? There is a small poinent memorial to him under the long island on ramp of the Whitestone Bridge. It is an oblisk, seldom apreciated for its origional meaning, as the stone mason placed too big a space between the go and the ink, so most think it is a tribute to the ball point pen. I have to stop now, as I grow emotional peace in the new year Remember the Goink! Go ink! Larry |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Mbo Date: 28 Dec 99 - 05:43 PM Planxty Planxty Planxty Wheee! --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Jon Freeman Date: 28 Dec 99 - 05:40 PM Tough question and I suppose one that will vary depending of the types of folk music we got into. Here is a suggestion for somebody who IMO made a great impact on the direction of Irish Folk music - Donal Lunney Jon |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Little Neophyte Date: 28 Dec 99 - 04:57 PM Rick Fielding |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: dick greenhaus Date: 28 Dec 99 - 04:16 PM DEpends on when you want to start. From the 30's on: Carl Sandburg John Jacob Niles Burl Ives Pete Seeger Ewan MacColl The Weavers Kingston Trio Peter Paul and Mary Bob Dylan Joan Baez Martin Carthy after that, you have to decide what you consider folk and what you consider pop. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Paul G. Date: 28 Dec 99 - 04:02 PM Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, the Weavers, Florida's own Gamble Rogers who combined picking, singing and story telling like nobody else, and Dylan. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: bill\sables Date: 28 Dec 99 - 03:08 PM I must agree with Bert, In the fifties when Lonnie Donegan came onto the scene not many people had heard much folk type music and even less people played a folk instrument. Lonnie inrtoduced American Folk to the UK audiences but as Bert said he also encouraged them to play their own music. Prior to Lonnie Donegan instruments were mainly Brass or piano and violin and to buy a guitar was almost impossible. Skiffle groups grew up in almost every village and town with Washboards, Tea Chest Bases, Grandad's old Banjo, and the new Guitar. Having started playing in the fifties guitarists branched out into either Rock or Folk in the sixties and encouraged other younger musicians. When Lonnie Donegan was on the TV show "This is your Life" he was credited for the careers of Lennon and McCarthy, Elton John, and Rolling Stones among mant others. So it is my opinion that the most important influence to music in the last century, at least in the UK, was indeed Lonnie Donegan Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Peter T. Date: 28 Dec 99 - 03:05 PM I think it would be generally agreed that the most influential performer in almost all popular music categories was Louis Armstrong, who practically invented the popular singer/star/musician genre. If the 20th century was about American music, then, as Bing Crosby said (a contender here), he was the beginning and the end of it. I have heard classical musicians argue that he was as influential as Schoenberg on contemporary classic music. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: kendall Date: 28 Dec 99 - 03:01 PM PETE SEEGER , BURYL IVES for performers THE PATONS for making available all those talented people who would otherwise not be known. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Bert Date: 28 Dec 99 - 02:46 PM For someone of English origin who likes American folk music there can be only one, and that's Lonnie Donnegan. He took some flack from American folk fogies who were kinda jealous 'cos he made a lot of money at it. But he doesn't get the credit that he deserves for introducing a whole generation of Brits to American folk music. Not only that, he introduced them to the pleasure of making their own music and not relying totally on the canned stuff. |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Midchuck Date: 28 Dec 99 - 02:20 PM In my not-so-humble personal opinion: 1) Bill Monroe. He created Bluegrass music. (Not all by his lonesome, but he did the synthesis.) 2) Bob Dylan. He created the genre of the sensitive singer-songwriter to whom rhythm, meter, melody and any real meaning in the lyrics are all irrelevant. Just 'cause I'm not crazy about the genre doesn't mean I can deny his influence. 3) The Clancys and Makem. They got through to Americans with the idea that Irish music consisted of something more than Danny Boy and Galway Bay. 4) Ian Tyson. In his first career, he and Sylvia defined duet singing in the pop-folk genre. In his second, he almost single-handedly revived the cowboy song as a living medium. 5) Doc Watson. He created acoustic flatpicking as a distinct genre. (Actually, he created it on an electric guitar, but that's not supposed to be admitted in public.) |
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Subject: RE: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: Mbo Date: 28 Dec 99 - 01:59 PM THE CLANCY BROTHERS! SEAMUS ENNIS! THE CHIEFTAINS! BATTLEFIELD BAND! --Mbo |
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Subject: Century's Most Influential Performers? From: MTed Date: 28 Dec 99 - 01:48 PM I watched VH1's countdown of the most influential rock performers as voted on by "the musicians themselves" and was thoroughly disgusted--I have been, on occasion, a rock n roll musician (among other things) and found their choices--with Beatles at 1, Rolling Stones at 2, Led Zepplin at 3, to reflect a narrow taste Anyway,it got me to thinking, who really were the most influential performers, as far as folk music is concerned? You can be ecletic, but avoid people who worked primarily with pop music and stick to people who worked with roots music, even if it was in a peculiar or convoluted way-- I will not restrict you to any numbers--like ten or one hundred, and I will not prejudice the list by using this as a forum for my opinions(maybe later I will post something, but only if I am unable to control my compulsion to post) It is the end of the century, and a lot of wonderful folk music has disappeared, along with the wonderful communities that created and preserved it--let's remember it here!!
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