BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 04:19 PM

And look what a fucked-up disaster that's brought us to the brink of. A perfect example of the stupidity af asking an ill-informed public to decide on issues that are the responsibility of parliament and the government to make judgment on.

And it was a referendum, run by the government - not a small-sample popular poll run by a news agency with an agenda. Don't insult your own intelligence by pretending not to understand the difference.

But again, referendums in the U.K. are very much the exception rather than the rule.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 04:22 PM

....Thank goodness.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 05:12 PM

best to have someone who could be dangerous close and undersurveillance

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 05:25 PM

That's it in a nutshell, Dick. As LBJ said about the supertwat J Edgar Hoover, better to have him in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. But, in her case, d'you think we could also add just a small tinge of common humanity to the mix? A bit, dare I say, of that bloody Christian stuff? Long term, wouldn't that serve us well, as well as the young woman and her child?

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 06:13 PM

The baby of course, like the mother, is British citizen.

Of course what would be most convenient for the government would be if Shamila were to die out in the camp. No doubt they'd then express regrets at this tragic outcome.

I see Trump is saying the the UK and other governments whose nationals went to join Isis oought to bring them all back home and prosecute them for any wrongdoing. For once Ifind myself in agreement with the man.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 06:36 PM

Odd, I was thinking the same thing meself. His strategy is good, but I would hate to think that I'd agree with his underlying sentiments, whatever they are. Who knows. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 07:40 PM

So let's see. We think we can contain any "threat" that this nineteen-year-old could pose should she return. She's a Brit, so we should be letting her come home. She must expect to face the full rigour of our justice system, both in terms of security and of natural justice. As a civilised country, we don't allow our citizens to be thrown to the wolves, though we agree that they must face the sternest scrutiny, once home. There is no bye, no free pass.

Reasonable people would agree with all that. You may not agree that she should be brought home, rather than that she should be forced to make her own way home unsupported. Actually, that makes you an inhumane idiot. Of course it would cost us, you brainless gits bray about. But you self-same brainless gits never protest at the hundred billion that armies of accountants relieve billionaires of in terms of tax liabilities every year. That's all hunkydory with you Tory bigots, yet you'd deny the three or four grand it would cost to get this young woman and her baby home. So I'd like to set you a challenge, or a question, see it as you will:

You're an Islamophobe, aren't you? No reason you've so far given for not allowing her home, or paying to get her home, has exonerated you so far from that accusation. So give me your reasons, please. And tell me where you left your humanity behind while you're at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 04:05 AM

You may not agree that she should be brought home, rather than that she should be forced to make her own way home unsupported. Actually, that makes you an inhumane idiot. Of course it would cost us, you brainless gits bray about. But you self-same brainless gits never protest at the hundred billion that armies of accountants relieve billionaires of in terms of tax liabilities every year. That's all hunkydory with you Tory bigots, yet you'd deny the three or four grand it would cost to get this young woman and her baby home. So I'd like to set you a challenge, or a question, see it as you will:

I assume you are volunteering to go out and extricate her from what is still a war zone or are you happy to risk British lives so long as your own is not one of them?
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all travel to Syria. British nationals in Syria should leave by any practical means. Consular support is not available in Syria. The UK has suspended all services of the British Embassy in Damascus and all diplomatic and consular staff have been withdrawn from Syria. British nationals requiring assistance should make their way to a neighbouring country where the UK has a consular presence.

The situation remains extremely volatile and dangerous. High levels of violence persist throughout Syria, including full scale military operations involving the use of small arms, tanks, artillery and aircraft. A number of chemical weapons attacks have taken place across Syria.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 04:21 AM

This is not unlike the inhuman attitude that the survivors of the Grenfell Tower disaster be left to fend for themselves rather than allow them the use of vacant and usable property on a temporary basis
It's about time the people who support leaving this young woman and her newborn child out in a war zone that is quite likely to shortly turn into a killing field for Assad and his thugs, remember who we are discussing - a young woman who went out as a child and a newborn baby
That large sections of the British population can be claimed to support leaving her there shames the British people and what they have become - pretty well in line with leaving refugees and asylum seekers and their children to drown rather than allow them to land - I can never remember my country sinking as low as this in my lifetime
We should hang our heads in shame rather than display these disgusting figures as evidence that this young woman should be left to die - what kind of people would even consider it ?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 04:30 AM

Amen, Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 04:47 AM

Well Mr Shaw what is your proposed method of extraction for the young lady and her child?

It is also worth pointing out that under Syrian Law nationality is determined solely by the father's nationality, while the place of birth is irrelevant. In other words, birthright citizenship is not recognized since being born in Syria does not grant an automatic right to become a national. Under Syrian Law the infant is recognised as Dutch by virtue of her Dutch jihadist husband Yago Riedij.
If the child's rights are paramount, perhaps the Dutch government should take the problem away and solve it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 05:08 AM

The refugee camp is several hours away from the last-ditch fighting and is heavily guarded. Conditions in the camp are next to intolerable, with factions forming among the refugees leading to bullying and beatings up. We don't know what this young woman has done but so far she has not been tried for any offence, and she and her child are in harm's way. She is a citizen of our supposedly civilised country and it is an outrage that she can't come home. We should be flexing every muscle to get her back and I simply won't accept that it isn't possible. I suppose that with confounded bigoted thickheads such as Javid at the helm there's no political will to get her back, so we'll keep hearing the cod excuses as to how getting her home would be "too dangerous" and that having her here "would pose too much of a risk." Bullshit. Islamophobic bullshit too, and we're hearing it in this thread as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 05:38 AM

It is apparent some live all their lives in fluffy bunny land.
Funny, I spent several months in a well guarded camp. Ditches, walls, razor wire, watchtowers, the whole nine yards. We still had bunkers within sprinting distance. Even a mortar hops over defenses no prob.
Shaw restrict yourself to commenting on things of which you have a slight knowledge, you are an embarrassment.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 05:44 AM

yes a little christian or himanitarian consideration would be good

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 05:48 AM

Jim and Steve (and others) are right. There seems to be an extraordinary lack of compassion and human sympathy for refugees, Grenfell Tower casualties and this young woman.

Maybe people nowadays are swept along in a tide of Islamophobia, xenophobia and downright callousness. The mob bigotry and racism carry all the ignorant people towards a state of complete intolerance and hatred.
I agree that our country didn't used to be like this. So sad.

I saw on the News just last night some footage of one of these 'camps' in Syria. The children's faces said it all. Pinched, hungry, afraid and obviously suffering. The women looked desperate.
I can't imagine what it must be like to have just given birth, to be weak and ill-fed, having already experienced terrible trauma and seen evil things.
I can only hope and pray that somehow Shamima can be fetched home and helped.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 05:58 AM

It's grand to see that most of us here share those humanitarian instincts. Sad that a couple of people refuse to join us.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 06:25 AM

My husband utterly despises IS, radicalised fundamentalists, jihadis, terrorists and all they stand for. He knows far more about Islam than I do, and tells me their ideology is far from true Islamic thought and religion.
Yet even he feels terribly sorry for this woman and thinks she should be brought back to UK and given medical/psychological help, while her baby is medically examined and cared for, but not separated from its mother.
He says the Law will sort it out and she will get true justice. He doesn't think she presents a risk to us.

My only worry is that ordinary, law-abiding Muslims here in UK (such as my gentle husband) will be subject to Islamophobia, racism and unfair exclusion and prejudice.

Any human being is a fellow human being. And there is quite a lot of power in compassion and tolerance. They can defuse fraught situations and disarm evil.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 06:26 AM

"Maybe people nowadays are swept along in a tide of Islamophobia, xenophobia and downright callousness"
You have that spot on Sen - and some of our more unsavoury politicians who may or may not hold the views you mention are busy using human suffering as way up the greasy pole
Islamophobia and all forms of widespread bigotry are, I believe, often based on genuine fears and the victims are both the bigots and the targets of their bigotry
Personally, I believe we are very lucky to have a perfect representative of everything that has gone wrong with British society, so let's cherish his presence (doesn't mean we have to respond to it - he manages to speak for us, sometimes more eloquently that we do ourselves)
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 06:33 AM

Had western powers not plotted and carried out regime change in the Middle East ir is unlikely organisations such as Daesh and Isis would have arisen. Warfare creates casualties and devastation. If governments make a hash of omelettes there is a residue of broken eggs. Embargoes, sanctions bombs,deliberate destruction of critical infrastructure,lack of food and critical medical supplies has killed and displaced millions over the Middle East. Attention would be better focused on people such as Blair who deliberately lied to take us to war in Iraq, and all the other politicians that caused us to wage illegal wars in the Middle East. None of these wars were fought for humanitarian reasons,they were fought for economic gain. To concentrate on one "victim" and her Dutch child shows a shocking disregard for the truth and the millions of INNOCENT victims.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 06:40 AM

Senoufou, the hatred shown on this thread has come exclusively from your political "bedfellows"

The more tolerant, compassionate and caring views have come exclusively from people who are not your political "bedfellows"

Hmmmmmmmmmm .......... something for you to contemplate.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 07:45 AM

"the hatred shown on this thread has come exclusively from your political "bedfellows" "
I think that the present gloating at another's possible misfortune following Brexit going on on another thread pretty well sums up the humanity of the opposition   
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 08:00 AM

It would be a particularly callous person that did not have some degree of sympathy for the 'Jihadi Bride'. However you do not travel deliberately to a war zone without a degree of self involvement. The amount of her culpability is in question. Millions of other victims have zero culpability.
Focus would be better placed with the innocents!

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 08:54 AM

Did she ask the journalist to tell her story, or did they find her?
Did she say "I'm not sorry" or did they ask the question and expand her answer. Same re atrocities.
The story will have been edited to give whatever impression the paper wanted.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 10:08 AM

As I posted yesterday - the realist way she can come back is if a cynical newspaper
can profit from sending out a rescue squad of private security 'mercs'
in exchange for rights to her story...

Probably the only other way to secure the services of such a trained 'specialist team'
would be for family and supporters setting up a crowdfunding appeal,
and begging the money...???

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 10:11 AM

Popular opinion, guided by the press, maybe one aspect, Mo but in another sense, I’m not sure that what she is reported as saying matters that much. One could say they now saw that they had got into something bad and be lying. One that side alone, I’d view a person expressing either outlook as being a potential threat.

For a more compassionate view, I do believe in second chances, perhaps increasingly so as I get older (I think there was a time I’d say “lock em up and throw away the key” for some things without further thought). I could also speculate as to how many may have wound up in bad places had they lived in different circumstances. I do feel a combination of some disillusionment or sense of injustice and someone manipulative enough to work on a weakness and sell a “glorious cause” could be very effective, particularly with teenagers.

I suppose that leaves me in the camp that would support her coming back to the UK but one that would involve close scrutiny.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 10:43 AM

I think that the present gloating at another's possible misfortune following Brexit going on on another thread pretty well sums up the humanity of the opposition

Have you got your threads mixed up as well as your ideas? I find your comments insulting!

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 11:02 AM

The Family Division of the High Court had presided over cases involving at least 150 children deemed at risk of radicalisation in the last five years.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10671841/The-children-taught-at-home-about-murder-and-bombings.html

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 11:30 AM

"I find your comments insulting!"
Interesting someone should identify themself with an undirected comment

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 12:19 PM

Interesting you have not the wherewithal to make the direct accusation.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 19 - 03:52 PM

The young lady seems to be doing all she can to destroy her cause.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1089038/shamima-begum-interview-quotes-shocking-islamic-state-ISIS-beheading

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 04:02 AM

She does comes across as very hard, cold and arrogant in that interview. But I think she's being very, very careful not to aggravate the other jihadis around her. After all, she's still in Syria and could be attacked for expressing anti-Isis views.

She's obviously been indoctrinated, manipulated and radicalised most thoroughly.

She makes me think of a cornered animal, wary, defiant and 'tough' but in reality trembling with fear and desperately looking for a way of escape.
By showing her care, kindness and reassurance, (while of course going through the due processes of Law in UK) she will have more chance of seeing that 'our' side of things is less barbaric, murderous and wicked than 'hers'.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 05:03 AM

What she says to journalists after stories in a context which we recipients can't possibly understand is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the case for getting her home. What she says in front of a judge once she's home would be a different matter. The people who are clinging to any little adverse comment by a nineteen-year-old runaway in order to strengthen (as they see it) their case for leaving her to the wolves are inhuman charlatans. We have a couple of them polluting this forum, unfortunately. The kind of people who'd have been out there in gangs hanging untried people from bridges a hundred years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 06:02 AM

I quite often meet adolescents who are "Cold, hard and arrogant"
It's the adults who display those qualitis who worry me
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 07:01 AM

The sad thing about all this is that around 850 young people left Britain to fight Assad - we ain't seen nuffin' yet
Perhaps they need to think in terms of setting up a refugee camp for themselves somewhere
AND SHOULD WE HAVE A REGIME CHANGE IN BRITAIN....
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 11:34 AM

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/boris-johnson-s-position-syria-problem-uk
But why link to an article from 2016, The world has moved on since then and the geopolitics in Syria have also changed dramatically.
You merely demonstrate your abject ignorance of the country that you pontificate on whereas I know the terrain of the areas under discussion first hand and have some knowledge of the practicalities of extricating the young lady.

You also appear to revel in the fact that 850 jihadis left Britain to fight.What does ain't seen nuffin yet supposed to signify. Hiding in your bog it is unlikely you will see anything but your attitude seemingly applauds the fact they will return and potentially unleash mayhem.
You are one sad sicko!

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 01:10 PM

I've just read Piers Morgan's (not exactly my favourite TV personality) vituperative rant about this. He advises her to go f*** herself and wishes she would rot in hell.
Charming.
I respect his opinion (as I'd respect anyone's opinion) but why do people express themselves in this unrestrained fashion?

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 02:35 PM

It would seem the UK government are to revoke Shamima Begun's nationality.

Doesn't it just make you proud to be British ............ not.

What the hell has this country become. The likes of some of the callous bigots on this site seem to have won the day.

At the expense of a young person who is barely old enough to be called an adult.

I am appalled and upset by this decision.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 02:41 PM

I should have also said that I am ashamed to what this country has become.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 02:48 PM

Very sad day. That's that I suppose, case closed.

There are questions as to whether she might be able to adopt Bangladeshi nationality, as both her parents have Bangladeshi passports.
I do worry about her little baby boy - what's to become of him in all this?

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 02:49 PM

Oh PS it is citizenship she is being denied not nationality.

I post this so the pedantics and nitpickers can't put me up on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 03:18 PM

That's true Raggytash. My husband is said to have 'dual nationality' with two passports, Ivorian and UK. But it was 'UK Citizenship' he was granted, not nationality.
It's very confusing isn't it?
I think this may be the first time someone has been rendered stateless by this procedure. And there is a possibility of Appeal.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 03:30 PM

Under Syrian Law it is quite clear. The child is Dutch by virtue of taking his fathers nationality.
Senoufou I cannot see how Piers Morgan adds anything useful to the discussion of the problem, it is merely a rather nasty unthinking soundbite. But it is a real problem. Extremism in certain mosques was ignored by the authorities and government negligence aided and abetted the problem. I can accept brainwashed as being an outcome,but words like grooming betray an ignorance of the meaning of the word, that has strictly sexual connotations. To what extent they were the young innocents led astray as beloved by the majority of those here attempting the moral high ground is a total unknown at this stage. I have severe doubts about such an explanation but that is an irrelevance at this stage. She and others went to a warzone on the side of enemies we were fighting.
Britain had no role during the Spanish civil war but the release of recent records show what a close eye British intelligence kept on the potential volunteers at the ports, and how unwilling they were to prevent their departure. The British government was loth to use the 1870 Foreign Enlistment Act, fearing that if a case came to court it could not secure a conviction, and would face political embarrassment.
the returning British veterans received a tumultuous reception from friends, families and supporters, they faced grave suspicion from many within the government and security services who suspected that the veterans had been ‘imbued with revolutionary sentiments’.

Although it was recognised that there was little chance of successfully prosecuting any volunteers under the archaic Foreign Enlistment Act, many veterans found their attempts to volunteer for the armed forces in the Second World War blocked, or encountered discrimination in their workplaces for many years to come.

A similar treatment was handed out to Irish Nationals who fought for the allies in WW2

In both these cases the combatants were not fighting their own country,unlike the present crop of jihadists.
The closest equivalent would be the British Free corps commanded by Waffen SS officers. Most of the members were handed
custodial sentences.
Some suggest the treason laws should be updated.
It is hardly inhuman to insist that those that might be judged to have put society at risk should be punished. To advocate any other course of action would be stupidity

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 03:38 PM

Nobody has suggested that IF she has put our society at risk she should go unpunished.

No-one, not one person.

Once again deflection is your modus operendi.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 03:44 PM

I agree Iains that fundamentalist preaching in some radical mosques was ignored by the authorities for a long time. I suspect this was because they were trying to avoid causing an uproar among Muslim communities and ending up with rioting and civil unrest.

But while I support tolerance, there are limits to what can actually be tolerated. Pussyfooting around dodgy hate preachers is not the best way forward.

It's now regulated more stringently, but it went on for too long unchecked.

I've had to speak a bit sharply to that 'fundmentalist' couple of Muslims we keep seeing in Tesco. They wouldn't stop demanding that I change my religion, should wear a hijab and repeating that I wasn't really married to my husband.

Eventually my usual easy-going, polite and laissez-faire attitude snapped, and I pointed out that they were lucky to live in UK where we accept all religions and races, and I insisted they show me the same tolerance. My husband said a lot more (ie they were actually committing a crime!) and they stalked off.
They keep out of our way now... :)

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 05:42 PM

Nobody has suggested that IF she has put our society at risk she should go unpunished.

No-one, not one person.

Once again deflection is your modus operendi.

wot's this then:

Young people, possibly this young woman, became =involved, not out of religious fervour bu to fill the gap the West left when they allowed Assad to do what he is still doing
It little behooved them to punish one of his possible victims

and you label me the idiot?
From: Raggytash - PM
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 04:26 PM
Idiot.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 06:01 PM

It might help if you included the posters name.

I am not inclined to trace back through 195 post to verify it for myself.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 06:41 PM

Really not worth it, Raggytash.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 03:40 AM

Here you are raggedy tash;
Let me refresh your memory.
Your rather sour response response to my joking aside:

Cars are not green. You should walk.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Raggytash - PM
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 04:26 PM

Well. lets see.

The nearest "city" to where I live in 40 miles.

Now in my youth I may have been able to walk that in 10/11 hours.

Now I fear it may take me a week.

Idiot.


There you are laddie! In all it's pathetic glory. Now can we move on?

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Iains
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 03:50 AM

Interesting that those that protest the decision to strip the young lady's British citizenship are also largely the same people that would deny people a referendum on the basis that out duly elected leaders know better than we lesser mortals. Unless of course the government makes a decision they disagree with.

As the government know all the facts and are superior to us they obviously made a judgement that we should be protected from her.
More importantly it will send a very strong message to others tempted to follow the same road to perdition.

Unfortunate for her-A win win for us. Treachery should never be rewarded.

Subject: RE: BS: Should 'Jihadi bride' come back to UK?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 03:55 AM

I'm surprised that corbyn hasn't voiced his pro-terrorist opinion!!!