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Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes

Daniel Kelly 06 Apr 19 - 08:17 AM
GUEST 06 Apr 19 - 08:50 PM
Daniel Kelly 07 Apr 19 - 01:53 AM
Hrothgar 07 Apr 19 - 03:36 AM
GUEST,Guest 09 Apr 19 - 10:26 AM
rich-joy 09 Apr 19 - 07:24 PM
Daniel Kelly 10 Apr 19 - 08:13 AM
rich-joy 10 Apr 19 - 11:47 AM
Sandra in Sydney 10 Apr 19 - 08:33 PM
rich-joy 10 Apr 19 - 09:26 PM
GUEST,Guest 11 Apr 19 - 12:16 AM
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Subject: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 08:17 AM

Now that my folk heavy metal concert is out of the way, I'm keen to start in earnest on an album of Colin Dryden songs.

I have more than enough songs that I know Colin wrote or played regularly to fill the album, but I'm also interested in writing one
or two songs of my own.

It was easy to write for Peter Thornton because you learn a lot about a person's character by playing a few years worth of sessions with them.

Not so easy for someone I never met, and about whom so little is written. I'm hoping to get to the National Library to listen to the workshop that Colin gave in 1970.

If anyone is willing to share an anecdote about their personal experience with Colin, either here or via message, it would be greatly appreciated. Also happy to receive them anonymously if people prefer.

Thanks in advance,

Daniel,


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 19 - 08:50 PM

When the sun is HANGING in the sky (as mentioned above)
The days are long, long are the SIGHS (sounds the same but totally different meaning).
The recordings on Colin's Niece Naomi's page
http://nomeshome.tumblr.com/post/56916558706/colin-dryden-not-your-average-uncle-as-kids
were provided to her by Derrick Chetwyn who was a very good friend of Colin's. Derrick got them from someone in Sydney.
There are no other 'songs' written by Colin out there but there is a tune called "Over the Bumps or Paddy The Pig's Favourite"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djn8Q7swh4E
Cheers
MaryB
mary.brettell@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 01:53 AM

Thanks Mary,

Derrick had pointed out my 'sagging' error on a previous thread, but I'll note the 'sighs' error when I record again. I did a terrible recording of 'Over the Bumps' last month, based on the link you provided. I also heard that Colin liked to play Harvest Home, which is probably beyond my fiddle skills.

Cheers,
Daniel


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 03:36 AM

I remember Colin doing an amazing blues version of "The Ryebuck Shearer" at a Numeralla Folk Festival in about 1978 or 1979. Had the audience right in his hand. I still wish I had a recording of it.


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 Apr 19 - 10:26 AM

Many years ago I drove down from Sydney to Wagga to do a concert gig for the late Noel Raynes and Colin came along for the ride.Even though this was during one of Cols low times you didn`t miss the opportunity to put on one of Australia best. Col accompanied me on a couple of instrumental items and then went on to do his solo bracket.He sang a bloody awful rambling version of The Gypsy Rover with endless repeats of verses, and lines made up on the spur of the moment(due to circumstances which those of you around at the time will need no elaboration ) and then went on to sing a twelve bar version of Pennies from Heaven which was truly amazing and,as the previous post mentioned, had the audience enraptured, totally in the palm of his hand.The moment when he stopped playing and singing in the middle of a line...."it isn`t raining rain you know...., hearing the audience, out of the darkness, complete the line .... it`s raining violets..... and then Col picking it up right on cue was a chilling reminder of just how good he could be!.

dek46@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy annecdotes
From: rich-joy
Date: 09 Apr 19 - 07:24 PM

Yes, even over in Perth in the early-to-mid 70s, Colin could be Absolutely Bloody Brilliant OR pretty darn awful, depending on what he'd taken - must've been rather difficult for the MCs!!
But you Always wanted to listen to him, in case you just heard THE song or bracket of your lifetime!!   His "Davey Lowston" was, for me, just one such example of those latter times.

Sure hope he has reincarnated into more singing/playing lives!!
Cheers!
R-J


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 08:13 AM

Thanks to both Richenda and dek46 for those stories.

Richenda, are you able to put a date on the concert in Perth? In the second installment on my blog I trawled trove for all the published concerts that Colin was in an put a google map together with dates and locations. Perth didn't come up in any of the papers.

Cheers,

Daniel,


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: rich-joy
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 11:47 AM

Daniel, it could just be that TROVE hasn't done a great deal of digitising past about 1954??

I'll really have to try hard to recall the Colin years - most of the records I used to keep have been "lost" in my many moves.

He definitely performed at the Governor Broome FC.   
I believe the pub, which was over the Horseshoe Bridge in James St, North Perth, was a brothel as well - but a great folk club! (and run by Geoff Morgan). Some disgruntled customer burnt the Pub down in the late 70s I think. (I was overseas by then).

He was also on at The Stables FC, behind the old Mount Hotel, and started c.1972? by my mate, Jan Hendry. (Not long after, she also started a relationship with Colin.)
I'm pretty sure I remember a concert with Colin out at the Uni too, probably at the Octogon Theatre there. In fact, that could have been my "Davey Lowston" Colin experience ....

He may have been at the Shaftsbury too, but then again, that was mainly Irish trad.

However, the WAFF (WA Folk Federation) could well have some records from the 70s and should at least have a full set of "The Town Crier" magazine, detailing the 70s folk scene.

Daniel, if someone could help you locate Shayna Karlin (Stewart?) - maybe Margret RoadKnight? e.g. - she could certainly elaborate on Colin!

G'Luck.
Cheers,
R-J


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 08:33 PM

Shayna is a friend of one of my friends & I can ask my friend to pass on your details.

Margret is also a friend of this friend

sandra


State Library of WA also has Town Crier so does NLA


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: rich-joy
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 09:26 PM

Here is some more info on (the earlier) Shayna :

https://womenofaussiemusic.blogspot.com/2015/10/shayna-karlin.html


R-J


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 12:16 AM

To correct my earlier post,sorry about the missing second e.

deke46@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 11:47 AM

Thanks, Richenda for the link to Women of Aussie Music.

snip - In late 1970 Richard Lockwood and Ken Firth from the band Tully contributed to Extradition's debut LP Hush released in June 1971 and now a rare collector's item. - snip

I have that 1971 Sweet Peach LP!

Sometime in the 90s a record seller told me a pristine copy was valued at $1500. Mine, alas, was second hand when I bought it & even tho I looked after it carefully (the record I had played was always put away before the next was played!)I can remember a friend just casting it aside at a party (me, resentful?) sometime in the 70s.

Pristine copies appear to be a bit rarer & more expensive now

sandra


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 07:31 AM

If anyone wants to have a chat in person, I'll be at the National Folklore Conference in Canberra next Friday.


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 08:33 PM

I 'm travelling to Canberra on Thursday so gave Graham my apologies, but I might call in before the end if we get there in time.

If so, see ya, if not see you @ Dukes in May.

sandra

do you want me to pass your request to Shayna & Margret's friend?


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Subject: RE: Colin Dryden - songworthy anecdotes
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 13 Apr 19 - 03:13 AM

Hi Sands, no need, I'll get in contact with them on Facebook or email.

Hrothgar, many thanks for your tip about blue numbers. Tragic that it wasn't recorded. Here is my attempt, keen to know if it is in the ballpark.

I think there is a whole sub-genre of traditional Australian folk ballads done as blues numbers!

Cheers all,
Daniel


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