Songs of bad taste

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Abe Yevi
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 09:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkNEbExdTA
If you want to talk about sexist and racist songs in bad taste, just talk Bellamy. He popularized many racist, sexist, heterocentric songs written by an imperialist bigot who would appear to have inspired him not just musically, but also socially. 1:59 is all you need to know about this particular song. Great singer, terrible songs.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 27 Apr 19 - 10:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=7aibw1hO-sQ

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Acorn4
Date: 26 Apr 19 - 04:29 AM

I was told one of my songs was "crude and offensive". The day before I'd sung it somewhere else and had two requests for the lyrics.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 23 Apr 19 - 10:27 PM

By the way, Eric Bogle was just given a Lifetime Achievement Award at the National Folk Festival in Canberra last weekend. No mention was made of Nobody's Moggy.

Those who find Nobody's Moggy in bad taste will probably not be comforted to know that there's a recording on which Bogle accidentally on purpose sings the line, "Decapitating tweety birds and masticating mice," as "Decapitating tweety birds and masturbating mice."

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,paperback
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 09:57 PM

Sandman: speak for yourself you not only a village idiot but an ill mannered one.

Well, as MGM·Lion was wont to say

"Nezza mind; dear dear; diddums!"

MGM·Lion: the king of punctuation

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 06:25 PM

Found the King of Hearts.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Andy7
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 04:37 PM

Then you'd be the village idiosyncrasy.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 04:17 PM

What if you are the only sensible person in a village full of idiots...???

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 04:14 PM

Which village is that is it in LEICESTERSHIRE?

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Acorn4
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 04:08 PM

Our village has two village idiots - they are on a jobshare!

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 10:54 AM

And the genius of comic soings the singing postman
I knows a gal a real fine gal, down in WRoxham way
She were whooly nice to me back in the old school days
She would smile all the while, but Daddy didn't know all
What she used to say to me down by the garden wall
"Have you got a light Boy?
Have you got a light?"

Chorus.
Molly Lindley, she smokes like a chimney
But she's my little nicotene gal

Now you'll see her and me never more to part
We would wander hand in hand together in the dark
'Til one night I held her tight in the old back yard
But when I tries to hold her close she says "Now hold you hard!"
Have you got a light boy?
Have you got a light?

Chorus

Then one day she go away. I don't see her no more
'Til by chance I see her down along the (Mundley?) shore
She be there twice as fair but will she now be true
So when she sees me passing by she says "I'm glad that's you!
Have you got a light boy?
Have you got a light"

Chorus

By and by we decide on a wedding day
So we toddles off to church to hear the preacher say
Will you now take this vow to honour all the time
Before I has a chance to stop her, she begins to pine
"Have you got a light boy?
Have you got a light?"

Chorus

Now the doctor tells me a daddy I shall be
but when I asks him "Whats the score?" he says there's only three
So here I go Cheerio, to see how she do fair
I know what she will say to me as soon as I get's there
"Have you got a li..............ght, b.............o................y?"

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 08:36 AM

COMPARE IT TO THIS
Leon Rosselson
Little Tim MacGuire loved to play with fire
Always hated water, never used to wash
Loved the smell of burning, of bonfires burning
Loved to play all day with his little tinder box

He chased the sparks as they flew into the evening
Hailed the flash of lightning and the burning sun
When I'm a man then I'll become a fireman
Then I can light a fire for everyone

When he was four they dressed him in a uniform
Sent him to a school with iron railings all around
Hated the school and the rules and the railings
Took his little tinder box and burnt it to the ground

Oh how he laughed and danced in the firelight
Oh how he laughed as the flames leapt to the sky
When I'm a man I'm going to be a fireman
Keep a bonfire burning until the day I die

When MacGuire grew older they made him wear a bowler
Set him to work in an office in the town
Hated the pens and the pins and the papers
Had just one ambition, to burn the office down

Little Tim MacGuire loved to play with fire
Loved the blaze of roses and the golden grain
Loved the leaves of autumn, the red leaves of autumn
Loved a slender girl with a smile like a flame

The judge said at his trial, Your behaviour has been vile
You're a menace to society though you may think you're big
You have to go to prison - and then, what a commotion
For smoke and fire were pouring from the judge's wig

Oh how he laughed and danced in the courtroom
We took him down, we locked him in the darkness of the cell
Never saw the sun or heard the songbirds calling
Saw the prison bars and heard the prison bell

Then early one morning just as the day was dawning
A great wheel of fire spun skywards from the jail
The iron bars melted, the stone walls crumbled
No one in the prison lived to tell the tale

No one ever found Tim MacGuire's little tinder box
No one ever found a trace of Tim MacGuire
Perhaps he's up in heaven setting light to angels' haloes
Perhaps he's down in hell dancing round the fire

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 19 - 08:32 AM

guest paper back
t takes a village to raise an idiot - you're one of those guys who takes ten years to figure it all out but never figures out people had moved on five years earlier so you're forever five years behind the curve - speak for yourself you not only a village idiot but an ill mannered one.
mr red Carry on singing songs that might offend , but do not be surprised if parts of an audience do not clap, performance is about creating an empathy with an audience.
another song iwould not sing is that song
Brimstone used to sing about not being fond of portuguese
I fell in love with a fair young maid
Who in Campden did reside
And I was living in Shoreditch,
Which was a one-and-fourpenny ride.
But there was a fly in the ointment,
As you very soon will perceive,
Cos, although I loved her ever so well,
She loved a Portuguese.

One night, I saw them both together,
And I opened me mouth to speak.
But the sight I saw before me
Made me shut me mouth up quick!
For they was both a-sitting there,
They was laughing, and holding hands,
And he was a-seducing of her
With pints of Babycham!

He was a nasty piece of work,
Gonzales was his name.
And there he was, a-dallying with
The honour of my dame.
So, I resolved to kill him,
Though I knew it was a sin,
Cos I didn't like Portuguese in general,
And in particular, I didn't like 'im!

So I followed him to his lodgings,
Which was in Millwall, or thereabouts,
And I followed him up an alleyway,
And I turned him inside-out!
Then I muttered jealous oaths, and things,
And bashed him black and bluer,
Then I lifted up a manhole cover,
And I bunged him down a sewer!

Now when she heard what I had done,
She made me poor life hell,
So just for the sake of peace and quiet,
I done her in, as well!
So now I'm up before the Beak
To answer for me crime.
He said: I don't like what you did first off, my son,
But I'll forgive you the second time!

Now, love and jealousy are dangerous passions,
I should never have intermixed 'em.
I might have been much wiser,
Cos now I'm languishing here in Brixton.
All for the love of a fair young maid
Who in Campden did reside,
Yes, all for the love of a fair young maid
I got thirteen years inside!
"what a pile of shite" IMO

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 19 Apr 19 - 07:17 AM

Mr Red - Take as much piss as you like..

Matey sarcasm bonds communities together...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Apr 19 - 03:06 AM

punkfolkrocker

if you are a homeowner - you go meow every time you write the word.

Annnnnd - not that I take side or nuffink - but I sing "Somebody's Moggy" and also one about two Rabbits - one Called Stu, and the other called Pye..................



Now - do we take the piss out of you and Sandman for the spat? Ironically of course!

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Severn
Date: 19 Apr 19 - 12:13 AM

There were always the things we sang after Sunday School, like:


Jesus loves the little children
Am the children of the world.
Red or yellow, black or white,
They are tasty, every bite!
Jesus loves the little children of the world.
YUM, YUM! (Burp).......


Good taste?
Needs a little salt, maybe?.......

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,paperback
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:27 PM

Littlehawk, nod

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,paperback
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:23 PM

Sandman: it takes a village to raise an idiot - you're one of those guys who takes ten years to figure it all out but never figures out people had moved on five years earlier so you're forever five years behind the curve - but don't fret, so are many of us.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:20 PM

Chongo is very proud of his nuts. (needless to say)

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 07:22 PM

Chongo Chimp need his nuts

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 06:12 PM

What always impresses me most about the UK folk community is their tolerance for one another's imperfections, their appreciation of differing viewpoints, and their absolutely firm resolve to speak kindly and generously to one another even under the most trying of circumstances. ;) Someone really should write a song about it.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 01:11 PM

no problem PFR, Guest modette i know your identity, how is the journalism going , the rough guides are they still popular, guest some bloke was a big mate of tom brown who used to sing the clarence song with camp movements, guest some bloke is always going on knocking trad singers and banging on about trousers and tup to their tits a pathetic insult

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Some bloke
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 12:42 PM

Wow... I’m glad this is about funny songs because that apart, it’s BS section material.

PFR. Good luck trying but I fear Mr Reason is out for lunch in the Miles household. T’was ever thus. Although I notice he still tries to mention his gigs. A true pro...

Right. My turn.

I’m going to kill my cat
Then I’ll smother it with a pillow
Cos it pissed all around my hat
And it’s going to rue the day!

For when I’ve done dissecting it
I’ll put it in a paper bag
Then send all the bits off to The RSPCA

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 09:39 AM

Hah - worked out what I did wrong..

Yes, I did type a final version and proof-read it.
Then selected all and copied as a safety precaution before posting..
Except I must have clumsily pressed ctrl/V instead of ctrl/C
and posted the previously copied work in progress draft...

Ok..this is boring for anyone else to read..
But could be worked as a sit com plot device to great comedic effect..

Imagine if they'd had home computers and internet in the classic Brit sit com era...

"Patrick Cargill must hurry to stop the internet before he has to explain to family and colleagues
why he posted his dick pic to all of them..."

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 09:03 AM

I really ballsed up that big post..
dunno what went wrong - I definitely typed it and proofed it...??

anyway,this is the last correction.. sorry mates...

"Yes I do see too much of that sort of highly persuasive direct propaganda nonsense all over the internet..."

time for a strong mug of tea...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:42 AM

Sandman - I know from much past experience you enjoy arguing and getting over heated
even with folks who basically are on your side and agree with you.
That's part of your character and charm...

As far as I'm concerned.. no ill feelings, or serious offence intended..
Robust grumpy mudcat life goes on as normal...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:39 AM

something went wrong with my editing and copy pasting..

Try again...

"Seriously, if you think those two creaky old songs somehow precipitate the fall of civilisation
you should be better informed of the scale of hilarious 'bad taste' on offer for our entertainment...
Much [most ?] of it gleefully performed by progressive liberal lefty comedians..."

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 08:21 AM

Sandman - I can't remember if you are one of those mudcatters who proudly boast
they don't own and never watch a TV...
yes, they do still exist in 2019..

But the obvious solution is watch as much varied TV comedy as you can fit into your busy schedule...

That's homework that shouldn't be too much of a chore...

Seriously, if you think those two creaky old songs somehow precipitate the fall of civilisation
you should be better informed of the scale of hilarious 'bad taste' on offer for our entertainment...


btw.. Love Thy Neighbour...

Obviously very popular in it's day, and a family favourite in our council house..

I recently watched a random episode on youtube for nostalgias sake.
Both me and the mrs chuckled a little with it, but mostly at it..
I'd allow benefit of the doubt it was following Johnny Speight's Alf Garnett model
of mocking racists.
But clesarly executed in a far clunsier manner..
The racism was slight by the standards of modern reality,
but obviously no longer broacastable on mainstream TV.
But not something to demonise the ordinary older viewers who still enjoy it on DVD boxsets.
That just plays into the hands of far right agitators and helps their recrutment efforts...

Boiled down to basics it goes thusly..

"loony PC lefty snowflakes won't even let decent hard working Britsh citizens
watch good old fashined classic comedy,
vote ukip and liberate the BBC and ITV from these lefty fascists..."

Yes I do see too much of that sort of highly persuasive nonsense all over the internet...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Modette
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 05:59 AM

Capital letters in The Sandman's posts are like waiting for a 46a bus. You wait ages for a glimpse of one aND THEN A WHOLE LOad come at once.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 04:34 AM

From: punkfolkrocker - PM

"Alf Garnett was comic genius..."

The character of Alf Garnett was reputedly based on Johnny Speight's own father. Warren Mitchell proved what a talented actor he was, in portraying Alf as the bigot we all love to hate, when the actor and character were complete opposites.

"To a lesser extent, the same case can be made to defend the much misunderstood series Curry and Chips.."

Spike Milligan could get away with material which the BBC would allow nobody else to do. Look at his "Pakistani Dalek", for instance.

"Even at a bigger stretch Love Thy Neighbour..."

In my opinion, Love Thy Neighbour was just not funny, even in the 1970's.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 04:25 AM

I GREW UP IN LEWISHAM IN A WORKING CLASS AREA , AT MY SECONDARY SCHOOL WE HAD A GEOGRAPHY TEACHER WHO SAID WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ASIA, ASIA IS WHERE THE WOGS LIVE, WOGS ARE WILY ORIENTAL GENTLEMAN THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE IN 1966 IT IS NOT acceptable now. bernard manning was making his racist jokes in the 1990s , we are not talking about 60 yEars ago as regards manning

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Apr 19 - 02:40 AM

i am not attacking low brow culture ,i am attacking humour that has messages such as racism or attacks on gay or transvestite people etc.i find some as you put it lowbrow culture funny , but i am not prepared to applaud the clarence song the soing about dead cats neither would i applaud one or two of vin garbutts songs although he was a great entertainer, that is my prerogative, if i think a song is in bad taste i do not have to applaud, that does not mean that i would attempt to stop anyone singing, is that clear?
i am very aware of modern comedy, so please do not patrronise me. I GREW UP IN SOUTH EAST LONDON, LEWISHAM SO DO NOT LECTURE ME ABOUTMY ROOTS

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 05:19 PM

Sandman - I honestly don't know what more to say to you...
The 1930s were nearly 90 years ago..
The world, media and mass entertainment were almost completely different...
Mass education was different..
Everything was different.....

For all your knowledge of that era,
you seem to have painted yourself into a very tight dark corner
because of it..

I will repeat, you really seem too unaware of modern comedy
to have any meaningful opinion on it...

btw.. i don't need youtube clips,
I grew up in a council house
on a diet of classic [and rubbish] 1960s and 70s sit-coms and comedians...

..and I've not exactly been brainwashed into voting ukip...

Attacks on 'low brow' mass popular culture, aren't just snobbish, but can also be very patronising...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 05:00 PM

there is nothing snobbish about being appalled at the medias attempt to appeal the lowest common denominator, you need to check your history, pfr
viscount harmsworth appealed to the lowest common denominator in the 1930s apeealing in the daily mail to encourage fascism through the blackshirts ,reynell bellamy [peter bellamys father] and not a working class person but was an uppermiddle class organiser for mosley[his right hand man], and fascism, there is nothing snobbish about condemning upper class people who encourage fascism. fascism and racism appeals to the lowest common denominator in people, it is convenient for the establishment it divides ordinary people on a racist basis , allowing the establishment to divide and rule. apartheid did this by setting zulus against xhona, xhona against zulus. divide and rule

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 04:43 PM

hitler was a master of his craft so was oswald mosley very good orators that does not mean their message was good, bernard manning may have been professional that does not mean i like his messages. that was my whole point about alf garnett he parodied racists ..did you watch the clip i provided?
Bernard Manning did not parody racists neither did jim davison

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 01:45 PM

Personally, I think you'd make better clearer progress if you rid your head
of the unhelpful concept of 'bad taste'..

Concentrate more on 'funny or not funny' and the pragmatics of what amuses diverse audiences..

eg fart, bum, and willy gags are universally funny, despite minority objection
from uptight individuals...

Racist gags are not at all funny if the comedian is fueled by hatred towards ethnic groups.
However the same jokes can be made funny when appropriated by the targeted victims,
or sympathetic progressive comedians,
and used to cruely parody racists...

Alf Garnett was comic genius...

To a lesser extent, the same case can be made to defend the much misunderstood series Curry and Chips..
Even at a bigger stretch Love Thy Neighbour...

Discuss...

[30 odd years ago I was half heartedly training to be a media studies teacher..
how differently life turned out...]

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 01:19 PM

No I do not agree the Clarence song is bad taste.
That's not for me to judge.
But in my opinion it is unfunny - merely a shit comic song...

Apart from that we more than probably agree on the value of humour
as a vehicle for polemical ideas...

Satire is an artform...

But neither am I a snob appalled at the 'lowest common denominator'...

Your demonised example Bernard Manning was actually a very funny pro comedian.
Though we may dislike his politics, much of his material, and a lot of the audience he appealed to,
he was a master of his craft...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 12:56 PM

It has nothing to do with lightening up ,it is about thinking about content of songs, and that is why I choose certain songs and not others, the lyrics and the meaning, you agree the clarence song is in bad taste. I would not stop people from singing sogs , but i am under no obligation to applaud, singers get themessage when few applaud or even a couple do not. neikher am i advocating preaching or harnguing , in fact i am saying that humour is an effective way of getting a message across without haranguing or preaching,if i do not like the message, i will not applaud.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:56 AM

btw - there's plenty of anti social and prejudiced things which I don't approve of
that I'd like other ordinary folks to stop doing;
but I'd get nowhere if I preach and harangue at them...

Like it or not, it's at best 'live and let live'...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:48 AM

Sandman - lighten up.. I'm not getting at you for the sake of it,
just the position you seem to be taking, and how you are presenting yourself in this thread.
I can only try my best to evaluate what you are writing as objectively as I can..

It's not all about YOU, even if you'd like it to be...???

Do you watch much TV comedy, or go to modern metropolitan comedy clubs
often enough to be in a position to judge other folk's sense of humour...???

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:35 AM

pfr feel free to sing either of the two songs i mentioned at my gigs, but dont expect me to applaud , before you accuse me of anything further THINK, REFLECT have you got the message, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME CLESARLY

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:32 AM

nmo iam not being intolerant ,i said i would not sing particular songs, i would like people to think about what they are singing about, i find the clarence song in worse taste than the cat song , but i do not like either, what others do is up to them , i did not like some of vin garbutts songs but i believed he should be able to sing them , if i do not like i do not clap ,end of story,
soPFR you do not know me and you are jumping to a conclusion that i wish to stop people from singing what they like, that is not the case , but do not expect me to applaud if i hear either of those songs. What i want is tfor people to give thought to their repertoire.

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: topical tom
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtSmAzklhoc

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 10:14 AM

Cats... need white knights like a fish needs a bicycle. Mine are world class shoe poopers when displeased.

RIP: Simon Bond

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 09:51 AM

I'm a life long progressive left winger..
moderate centrist on some issues.. militant farish left on others..

What I find discomforting about my side of the political spectrum
is an increasing tendency towards judgemental intolerant puritanism...

It used to be fundamentalist right wing religious spoilsports - the Mary Whitehouse brigade..

Now it seems to be 'us' trying to make culture more restricted and miserable...

no thanks.. where's the fun in that...???

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: GUEST,Phil D'Conch
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 09:34 AM

Sandman: “...so i am asking people to think about content of songs...”

While continually assuming ignorance or evil if they disagree.. with you. “People” do think, and then they laugh… or cry. That's how taste works if everyone isn't you. Which they are not. Losing a loved one in an auto accident is no joking matter unless it is:

“And he said "God, make it a dream!"
as he rode his last ride down.
And he sideswiped nineteen neat parked cars,
clipped off thirteen telephone poles,
hit two houses, bruised eight trees,
and Blue-Crossed seven people.
it was then he lost his head,
not to mention an arm or two before he stopped….”
[Harry Chapin]


But most conflate 'taste' with flavour which is a lot of smell:

“Yeah you got yer dead cat and you got yer dead dog
On a moonlight night you got yer dead toad frog
Got yer dead rabbit and yer dead raccoon
The blood and the guts they're gonna make you swoon!”
[Loudon Wainwright III]

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 02:24 AM

Sandman - your heart is in the right place,
but frankly I think you are out of touch with wider contemporary popular culture..

..and you clearly don't get all the different styles of modern comedy
that appeal to younger people...

You might be very surprised / shocked at what educated liberal minded younger folk find funny these days..

Do you watch television much at all...???

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 19 - 02:11 AM

well it in many cases it is appealing to the worst in people the establishment tabloid newspapers bang on about social security scroungers earning black money yet ignore serious tax evaders like the owner of the daily mail[ hardly surprising].
divde and rule set one faction of people against another. Apartheid was a classic example, get zulus to fight xhona, so white south africans kept control.
for society to be fairer it is important to appeal to the highest common factor not the LOWEST common denominator and since in my opinion humour in song is a great way of getting a political message across in a subtle manner, the content of humourous songs becomes important, songs that laugh at gay or transevestite people are setting one section of people against another , songs that laugh at domestic cats being killed, are appealing to the kind of ethos that the catholic church used to say animals do not have souls let us laugh about someomes cat being killed. one example is only an extrapolation or extension of the other both are songs that do not encourage either tolerance or sympathy. contrast to this humorous song
IN THESE HARD TIMES

div

Things are bad, awful bad,
In fact they've never been worse before
But every single chappie can make a girlie happy
Food is dear, rent is dear,
But love is cheap for the time of year
So grab the nearest Miss
And whisper while you kiss.

Chorus: 'In these hard times you've got to put up with anything
In these hard times you mustn't pick and choose'
And if you're nice, and squeeze her tight
She'll ask you round tomorrow night
If you don't mind sitting without a light
In these hard times.

Farmer Brown came to town
He spent the day at the cattle show
Then went to wet his whistle, inside the hotel Cecil
Lady fair, near him there
Had all her neck and shoulders bare
Said Farmer Brown 'Alack'
As he saw her dainty back.

Chorus: 'In these hard times you've got to put up with anything
In these hard times you mustn't pick and choose
This fancy kind of o' dress ye wear
Leaves all ye neck and shoulders bare
But you're lucky to be dressed to there.'
In these hard times.

Missis Green, rather mean
Went out last Saturday marketing
And saw out in the gutter, a codfish on a shutter
She felt its gums, poked her thumbs
All round the fish and she said 'Oh crumbs
It don't look nice at all'
Then the coster had to bawl

Chorus: 'In these hard times you've got to put up with anything
In these hard times you mustn't pick and choose'
That codfish there's a sacrifice,
And I ask ye Ma'am would you look nice
If you'd 'ave been torpedoed twice, in these hard times?'

PDF Sheet Music

div

Performed by Whit Cunliffe (1876-1966)
Written and composed by R.P. Weston & F.J. Barnes
or this
the song of the prune
La-la-la-la
La-la-la-la
Nowadays we often gaze
On women over fifty
Without the slightest trace
Of wrinkles on their face
Doctors go and take their dough
To make them young and nifty
But Doctors I defy
To tell me just why
No matter how young a prune may be
It's always full of wrinkles
We may get them on our face
Prunes get 'em every place
Prohibition worries us
But prunes don't sit and brood
For no matter how young a prune may be
It's always getting stewed

In the kingdom of the fruits
The prune is snubbed by others
And they are not allowed
To mingle with the crowd
Though they're never on display
With all their highbrow brothers
They never seem to mind
To this fact they're resigned
That no matter how young a prune may be
It's always full of wrinkles
Beauty treatments always fail
They've tried all to no avail
Other fruits are envious
Because they know real well
That no matter how young a prune may be
Hot water makes 'em swell


Baby prunes look like their dad
But not wrinkled quite as bad

Every day in every way
The world is getting better
We've even learned to fly
As days go passing by
But how about the poor old prune
His life is only wetter
No wonder he can't win
In the awful stew he's in
No matter how young a prune may be
He's always full of wrinkles
We may get them on our face
Prunes get 'em every place
Nothing ever worries them
Their life's an open book
But no matter how young a prune may be
It has a worried look

Prunes act very kind they say
When sickly people moan
But no matter how young a prune may be
It has a heart of stone

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Apr 19 - 06:42 PM

..and what's so wrong with the common denomiator..

we don't have to be elitist moralistic snobs all of the time.. how boring...

Subject: RE: Songs of bad taste
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Apr 19 - 06:15 PM

link here for abovehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp8aTvVqE7I