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Ireland's Favourite Folk Song

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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 19 - 12:08 PM

Ryan Tubridy is going to announce "Ireland's Favourite Folk Song" ??!!

Things just got dramatically worse.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 08 May 19 - 01:47 PM

From the website:

'Voting closes at 6pm on 27th May. The folk song selected by you as Ireland’s Favourite Folk Song will be announced live on The Late Late Show on RTÉ One Television on 31st May. Between now and then: happy listening!'


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,guest of 09.05 today
Date: 08 May 19 - 12:18 PM

I think the whole thing is crazy but still curious- when is the final result known- earlier posts are not clear at all...


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Stringsinger
Date: 08 May 19 - 12:10 PM

I'll vote for My Lagan Love or The Lark in the Clear Air. Also She Moved Through the Fair. (I dig mixolydian.) O'Carolan is high on my list too.

Can there be a favorite song elected by the Irish people? I would tend to doubt it.

There are so many beautiful Irish songs that it would be like trying to pick out the most beautiful looking person in the world.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 08 May 19 - 09:05 AM

'Do we understand that the 'Foggy Dew' is Ireland's favourite folk song'?'

I am not sure we understand the whole thing at all. What I do know is that the voting process is still in progress. But I say that without having followed much of it at all.



Ireland's Favourite Folksong


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 08 May 19 - 08:58 AM

Do we understand that the 'Foggy Dew' is Ireland's favourite folk song'?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Niamh Bird
Date: 07 May 19 - 07:42 AM

Interesting thread – though goes off topic....Song for Ireland was made famous in Ireland by the great Mary Black, and it’s sung quite a lot – still…. Generally it’s not known it was written by an English man….
And in The Foggy Dew (great rendition by Daoirí Farrell), the verse he sings mentions Perfidious Albion - Daoirí would never, ever change the words to suit himself, he has too much respect for the tradition....


oh the night fell black and the rifle's crack
made perfidious Albion reel
mid the leaded rail seven tongues of flame
did shine o're the lines of steel
by each shining blade a prayer was said
that to Ireland her sons be true
when the morning broke still the war flag shook
out its fold on the foggy dew


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 May 19 - 10:26 AM

Indeed, Jim! I get good value out of announcing that I’m going to sing “The Fields of Athenry” - and launch into (my version of) the song John Flanagan wrote as a response to the original!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 May 19 - 10:13 AM

I sang 'Foggy Dew' last night at our local singing session
I love the puzzled expression on people's faces when you introduce the song and apparently proceed to singing something totally different
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 May 19 - 08:49 AM

"...puts my teeth right on edge, because the singer has changed the words to suit himself... "

Isn't that what traditional singers do - sometimes consciously, more often not? As a quick example, just think of "Off to Dublin in the Green" - a rewrite of a British Army recruiting song!

In the end, of course, it's the listeners who decide what survives...

Regards


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 May 19 - 05:06 AM

could it be perfidious avon , in honour of avon reps


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Thompson
Date: 06 May 19 - 03:30 AM

The version of The Foggy Dew they've chosen puts my teeth right on edge, because the singer has changed the words to suit himself. Did I really hear "perfidious Avion"?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Connie O'Hayden
Date: 03 May 19 - 03:04 PM

https://youtu.be/uvsvPidMLT8


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Iains
Date: 03 May 19 - 02:25 PM

Do you think the parting glass was half empty or half full?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 May 19 - 01:56 PM

Bob Roberts' "Foggy Dew"? Ha-ha Guest, but not, to be sure, to be sure!
Better than Peter Pears, anyhow!


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 May 19 - 10:37 AM

When I was in Ireland everybody sang Red is the Rose but laughed at any of our requests, all too old apparently.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 May 19 - 10:26 AM

probably - its about a bloke who's hoovered up all the drink. but now its his round so he bids you all goodnight.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 03 May 19 - 10:13 AM

Isn't The Parting Glass actually a Scottish song?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Iains
Date: 03 May 19 - 07:50 AM

Having just seen the shortlist, how many are actually folk songs sensu stricto?
On Raglan Road
Green Fields of France
Rainy Night in Soho
The Foggy Dew
The Town I Loved So Well
Óró Sé Do Bheatha Bhaile
Danny Boy
The Parting Glass
The Rocky Road to Dublin
A Woman's Heart


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 02 May 19 - 05:05 AM

Don't know what stage this competition is at nor how it's decided. Nor any interest really- just curious about the answer.

Ireland has the best and the worst of songs & music as far as I'm concerned- certainly it isn't the lost world of music promoted by some
posters on mudcat, CCE and Bord Failte
'Song for Ireland' promotes an image which is very rare these days-- there's an awful lot of crap & suspect that aspect will emerge as the winner?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 01 May 19 - 06:17 PM

Hi Thompson!

Re "Song for Ireland"... I've heard it sung pretty regularly for a number of years at sessions - often, but by no means only, by visiting English singers.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 19 - 02:07 PM

the Bob Roberts version?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 06:09 PM

It's the Foggy Dew.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 05:45 AM

There's no such thing.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 05:38 AM

so what IS Ireland's favourite folksong after all this?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 05:34 AM

I like the song The Rocky Road To Dublin but do these producers/panel really think that The Rocky Road to Dublin is more popular in Ireland than either The Fields of Athenry or The Wild Rover, neither of which seem to be included in the list.
I would contend that you'd be far more likely to hear The Fields of Athenry or The Wild Rover being sung by an average Joe than The Rocky Road To Dublin.
Maybe the panel thought those two songs were too 'common'?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Thompson
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 05:31 AM

I don't think I've heard Song for Ireland sung in Ireland.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Apr 19 - 03:11 AM

"is this the fault of CCE jim"
Doubt it Dick - not enough money or kudos for them to bother
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: olddude
Date: 29 Apr 19 - 05:29 PM

Wild rover


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Andy7
Date: 29 Apr 19 - 05:14 PM

Andy7's Favourite Folk Song Competition:

First I'll make a shortlist of my 10 favourite folk songs.

Then I'll whittle them down, one at a time, until there's just one left.

That will be my favourite folk song.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Apr 19 - 04:44 PM

is this the fault of CCE jim


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 29 Apr 19 - 03:52 PM

Also crossed my mind as a strong contender,and surprised not to see it in the list. Mary Black's version for me!


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 29 Apr 19 - 02:29 PM

I have read back over the thread and cannot see... or have missed this one which gets sung in bars all over Ireland and in clubs in England.....Has been performed by The Dubliners, Dick Gaughan and several other well known Irish singers....... would have thought it would have been a great contender. Song for Ireland.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Thompson
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 03:30 PM

Some candidates? I'll start with a few:

The Last Rose of Summer
Wild Mountain Thyme
Meeting of the Waters
She is Far From the Land
Bodenstown Churchyard
Nell Flaherty's Drake
Eamonn an Chnoic
Cill Chais
Slán le Máigh
Liam Ó Raghaille
Amhráin Mhuighnise
Sliabh na mBan


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 10:39 AM

Disappointed that Brian Mullen has become involved in this nonsense - he's a fine singer with a great respect for the tradition (as will probably be seen tonight if he puts in a return appearance in the second Sam Henry programme)
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 10:30 AM

Sorry Peter
The newspaper jut mentions five today, I (wrongly apparently) assumed they wre all
"That's what I'm saying Jim, you should respect the tradition of having weird song competitions."
Like Eurovision - you mean ?
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Learaí na Láibe
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 08:56 AM

@Peter Laban,

Thanks for link. I was a bit too negative in my former post. I thought wrongly 'twas just mainstream musicians were involved. Those people seem to know their business.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 08:45 AM

With all respect Jim, that's an extremely silly thing to say.

The Jury

You have at least heard of Brian Mullins, Nuala O'Connor and perhaps Mary Black and Leagues O'Toole at least. Aside from those there's an ethno-musicologist from UCL included Whatever else we think of this competition, it's not really a bunch picked up randomly off the street.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 08:39 AM

That's what I'm saying Jim, you should respect the tradition of having weird song competitions.

that's why they do so well in the erovision song contest - they're match ready!


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 08:13 AM

"As most Irish people have very little interest in folk music of any kind,"
Considering the huge uptake of traditional music by thousands of young people (far in excess of anything that's happened in my lifetime), you have to be joking
Stupid competitions such as these are a result of the increase in interest
I've just seen a list of the panel - a political journalist and four total unknowns
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,patriot
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 07:34 AM

Forty Shades of Green must be I with a chance?   you can't get more Irish than that, surely?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Learaí na Láibe
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 07:31 AM

As most Irish people have very little interest in folk music of any kind, I don't expect this poll to have much relevance. No doubt one of the small number of token Irish songs people sung at musical occasions will win.

Another thing, could this poll have been hijacked by some group with an agenda, as happened in the BBC poll some years back when "A nation once again" was selected as the greatest song of all time or some such title.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 06:05 AM

Face it, Ireland is a weird place."
SURE IS
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 06:05 AM

Face it, Ireland is a weird place."
SURE IS
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 05:44 AM

Face it, Ireland is a weird place.

They've been doing weird song competitions for many years. Theres a short story about one in The Dubliners by James Joyce.

I've only been involved in one, but I rank it as one of the strangest experiences in a fairly strange life.
After dragging me all the way from England as a a finalist - I seem to remember there had been a lot betting on the result in the surrounding towns, and there were dark mutterings about corruption in high places. One poor sod of a contestant was the guitarist in Crystal Gale's backing band - and he had come all the way from America to take part.

The judge turned out to be a cleric who bore a striking resemblance to Father Ted.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 28 Apr 19 - 05:31 AM

To return to the thread, I believe today is a significant one in the life of the ridiculous 'favourite folk song' competition on RTE?

What sounds a LOT more interesting is the first of three hour long programmes about Seamus Ennis on the 'Rolling Wave' at 9pm tonight- marking his 100th anniversary next Sunday.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Apr 19 - 12:29 PM

Dennis is the name of the makers of fire engines. its on the front of every fire engine in England.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: GUEST,Colonel Fraser
Date: 27 Apr 19 - 12:27 PM

Dennis fire engines. Google it.


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Thompson
Date: 27 Apr 19 - 12:16 PM

Dennis? Why Dennis?


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Subject: RE: Ireland's Favourite Folk Song
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 19 - 11:46 AM

"It is just that I get tired with the derision piled on Morris dancing by the popular media."
I feel the same about folk song proper Dave :->
Jim


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