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Subject: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 May 19 - 04:43 PM

Hi all:

In my free time the last few years, my hobby has been going back to places I visited in Walkabouts: Travels and Conclusions in Verse/WalkaboutsVerse/WAV with a bridge camera.

Here is one example from a recent visit to Rome - quite timely as the Giro cycling and the Italian Open Tennis are currently on:

"A Beautiful Stage"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 May 19 - 11:33 PM

...stayed in Ostia and had about one day on the coast, one day walking about the city, and one day watching tennis at the wonderful Foro Italico.

There are so many beautiful sites in Rome but, of course, people know it and there are big crowds and queues at most of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 14 May 19 - 07:08 PM

Even if no one else is able to say it, Well Done.
Was it easy?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 May 19 - 02:48 PM

Thanks, Donuel:

It was easier last time in 1988, in my early 20s!

But I remembered that - unlike spacious Paris where the good underground is really needed - Rome is a walkabout city and this visit confirmed that.

I took the metro to the Vatican then walked a scenic route - in the order of the photos - to the Colosseum, buying an umbrella and wiping my camera lens a lot in the changeable weather that day.

The other 2 days, I took it easier - on the coast and at the tennis.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: fat B****rd
Date: 15 May 19 - 03:30 PM

Excellent selection, WAV. Reminds me of a wonderful week my late wife and I spent in Italy. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 May 19 - 03:38 PM

Where did you visit, FB?

So many beautiful places in Italy, of course - and I'm being reminded of this now by the helicopter cameras covering the Giro cycling.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: fat B****rd
Date: 15 May 19 - 06:22 PM

Rome, Florence, Assisi and Perugia.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 May 19 - 06:32 PM

Only been to the first 2, and know the other 2 from TV and Saint Francis, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 May 19 - 02:32 PM

A local one this time on a revisit, 19 years on, with camera, to Blackpool and Fleetwood - "A Good Seaside Day" .


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 May 19 - 03:50 PM

Recently on our local NW England news, Blackpool Tower is now 125 years old.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 May 19 - 05:58 PM

"Liverpool"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 19 - 02:54 PM

A surfie poem with pics on, in Sydney, "Cronulla"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 May 19 - 02:56 PM

Here we go again, WankaboutsVerse binge posting.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 19 - 05:06 PM

?

Over here we pay people to go over and photo the UK


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 May 19 - 03:45 AM

I think you hit the wrong button, Dave, but keeping calm and carrying on with upper lip stiff...

Not to compare myself in any other way, Gandhi and Mandela probably disliked their status quo at least as much as I do - one fought with non-violent non-cooperation, the latter resorted to terrorism.

Having been born in Saint Mary's Hospital, Manchester, the day Alf Ramsey's English team won the FIFA World Cup, and been highly trained in Australia and (too a lesser extent) England, I keep promoting WalkaboutsVerse

(The lazy answer would have been - if you don't like it, go to hell.)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 May 19 - 09:20 PM

thanks for the pics, the other beaches are a tad different to Australia's beaches!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 May 19 - 04:32 AM

Agreed, Sandra - although not a surfie, I have bumped into a few of our world's most famous beaches and those around Sydney are hard to beat.

And, when I visit my elderly parents there every year, what I appreciate most is the beautiful rock pools (as in the above Cronulla poem), where I can enjoy the fresh sea water, without too much swell, such that I can keep my glasses on.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 May 19 - 09:31 AM

"My Diet"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 May 19 - 03:39 AM

A bit like this thread, for the most part! "One-Pot Cooking"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 May 19 - 05:03 PM

For anyone who would like a look at some of the English artists at London’s National Gallery, my intro poem to WalkaboutsVerse, "Pictures"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 May 19 - 04:37 PM

My hometown poem "Manchester - A Gist"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 May 19 - 05:28 PM

wav are you familiar with the poetry of Ian Bailey, he is a neghbour of mine and is also from manchester


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 May 19 - 06:16 PM

No - I had to do a web-search, Sandman; is it the chap in the news on trial at the moment?

Either way, I hope to get back into both the folk and poetry club and festival scenes again but, as I say, I've been spending a fair bit of my spare time lately revisiting places with my camera.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 May 19 - 12:55 PM

The Irish dpp said there was insufficent evidence to prosecute, in france you are guilty until you can prove your innocence, he is being tried in his absence in france, it is [as i understand] a civil case which requires less evidence.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 May 19 - 01:51 PM

He lives in Manchester now, Sandman? May have been on the local news which I have missed lately due to watching Roland Garros and the Giro, after work.

Heading south, my "Impressions of London in 1997" (with photos taken 3 or 4 years ago)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 May 19 - 06:17 PM

no he lives near schull county cork ireland, but frommanchester originally


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 19 - 05:31 PM

"Picturing Sydney"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 19 - 04:30 PM

An Australian PM has (& I have) but still no UK leader has apologised for abusing Aboriginal "Land Rights"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jun 19 - 02:30 PM

Re Brexit and #DDay75, "Remember Them?"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jun 19 - 01:59 PM

Including a pic of Eric, "From Morecambe"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jun 19 - 03:30 PM

With an address, of sorts, not to a haggis but the coconut, my poem Through South-East Asia" .


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Jun 19 - 07:43 AM

In 1988, I hitch-hiked from "Land's End to John O' Groats"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jun 19 - 05:26 PM

With photos of Barcelona (including one of the bullring that was) taken during a long-weekend visit last year, my poem on "Toreo".


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 02:47 PM

The introductory poem to the Walkabout Lancashire section of my collection, "More Pictures" - with photos taken in 2017 of Manchester Art Gallery.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Jun 19 - 01:03 PM

My song, in C Major, "We Go Together" with pics of pigeons and "bees".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jun 19 - 02:51 PM

With the qualifying on this week, there is not long to go now, so my poem, with lots of pics from a 2014 visit, "Musing on Wimbledon"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:10 PM

...now that "Eastbourne" is over for another year.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 04:57 PM

"Proud Preston"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 06:28 PM

On the coast, near Newcastle Upon Tyne, "Cullercoats"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Jul 19 - 04:56 PM

Just got home from a visit by train to Buxton, Derbyshire, straight from work, and added a well-dressing photo to my poem on "The Many Elements of Buxton"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Jul 19 - 05:12 PM

"A Fern In Full Flight"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 19 - 05:56 PM

"Joys of Life"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Aug 19 - 04:30 PM

In North East England, with Roman ruins, Wallsend


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Aug 19 - 04:24 PM

Nice day here in England yesterday, and, with my camera, I made a day-trip into Lancashire to 3 places I had previously visited (about 20 years ago) with my pen; and I've just finished adding pics to my poem on "Clitheroe Castle's Views"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Aug 19 - 01:55 PM

From the same above day-trip, just finished editing and adding photos to my poem on "Blackburn Cathedral"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Aug 19 - 05:41 PM

My poem, with photos of her memorial in Hyde Park, on the death of Diana in 1997 - "A Loss For Humanity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Aug 19 - 12:32 PM

"Whalley Abbey...What Tales?"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Sep 19 - 05:27 PM

Most of my poems are in trad English forms, but I did try an Italian sonnet and a few Haikus, including this one on "Rivington", Lancashire - now with pics attached, after a recent revisit.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Oct 19 - 04:07 AM

"One Rugby?"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Dec 19 - 08:08 AM

I just made a visit "To Scotland, Again" - this time with my camera (rather than my pen), and by train rather than the coach journey of the poem.

You can also see in the pics evidence of how much rain there has been in these parts the last few weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Dec 19 - 07:09 PM

Excellent tour of Rivington among others


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 03:03 PM

Thanks Donuel, and have a happy Christmas..."The Nativity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 11:00 AM

"Monaco and its Railway Loo"...according to Google Blogger stats, the 2nd most read poem in all of WalkaboutsVerse!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 05:59 PM

And, according to Google Blogger stats, the most read poem in all of WalkaboutsVerse, with just 1 pic, "Congestion"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 11:18 AM

Yet to get back to India with my camera but, via a stopover heading back from my visit to family in Sydney this year, I have been back to Hong Kong and took the photos attached to this poem - "China and India in 1988"

And a happy new year all.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 02:03 PM

From my time in London in the late 90s, my poem, now with pics, on an interesting street market - "Portobello Road"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Feb 20 - 09:53 AM

"At A Pond"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Feb 20 - 01:17 PM

"A Second Ballet"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 04:25 PM

With pics of the M.C.G., Lords, etc., my poem on cricket "Dot-Ball"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Mar 20 - 06:07 AM

With pics of the Colosseum, the Burj Khalifa, and Buckingham Public Hospital, my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "Along with the Ingenuity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 10:41 AM

With pics from the Olympic Parks in Sydney and London, my poem "Olympics or Globalisation?"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 10:51 AM

Yet another finely wrought argument for racism and xenophobia. Bravo!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Mar 20 - 07:48 PM

No Gillymor - Yet another finely wrought argument for keeping our world multicultural.

And, from just above that, I saw on the news today Elizabeth Windsor, plus Corgi, making way for our new Buckingham Public Hospital.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 19 Mar 20 - 08:30 PM

The Dixiecrats could have used more of your ilk back in '48 when they were trying to beat back integration.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Mar 20 - 01:26 PM

The USA, Gillymor, should be run by a council of Native Americans/Amerindians/First Nations and those who don't like the idea of that may do what I've done and repatriate to where they belong - the Trumps, e.g., may choose either Scotland or Slovenia; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "Repatriating - Australia to England"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 03:52 PM

Just finished, again, going through, and adding pics to, my intro blank-verse poem 0 - 19: HELPED BY “THE OLDS”; SCRIBED 2000 A.D.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 06:05 PM

Just done some more work on the captions of this WalkaboutsVerse song - "Impressions of London in 1997"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 09:50 PM

One should not dismiss the great great grand cousin of Proust,


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 02:44 PM

...In "Remembrance of Things Past" (Proust), a "A Bayswater Bedsit" - my first home in London upon repatriation from Australia in 1997; and photographed on a return visit in 2014, with captions added a couple of minutes ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 01:38 PM

With captions just added, my poem on "Portobello Road" - not far from the abovementioned bedsit, in London.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 01:41 PM

Pre Pandemic retrospectives are all the rage.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Dec 20 - 12:44 PM

With a photo of a local mural, my poem on "The Notting Hill Carnival"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Dec 20 - 02:42 PM

With photos of the Diana Memorial in Hyde Park, my poem "A Loss For Humanity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 03:33 PM

"The Proms" - with a photo of Albert Hall shot from Kensington Gardens.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Dec 20 - 06:08 PM

"Oxford" - including photos of The Bridge of Sighs, Radcliffe Camera, and one of Matthew Arnold's "dreaming spires".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 05:12 PM

At churchyards, "Why the Yew?" with a couple of pics.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Dec 20 - 02:45 PM

"Hobson's Choice" with photos of Cambridge, including King's College - from the front and from The Backs; thankfully, the carol service is still going ahead on Christmas Eve...forgive me but I guess they had...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 06:04 PM

...some further forgiveness required as this poem is about Cornish Pasties but the two photos from Devon's Exeter Cathedral, "Tin-Miners' Lunch"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 11:35 AM

Don't you have anyplace else you can conduct this self-promotion of bad poetry? Are we your only victims?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Dec 20 - 11:31 AM

Not exactly sure on "victims" SRS but, according to Google's stats, a few hundred thousand have had a look at my verses, and I used to get considerably more visits when my collection was on MySpace's blog spot.

Either way, happy Christmas, all; and, with a pic (again according to Google stats, a few million have looked at my contributions to Google Maps) from Rome and one from home, my carol "Christmas Sung Simply"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM

With photos of pedestrian crossings in London and Chiang Mai, my poem on their timing - "Green Light"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 05:39 PM

Guide books and traveloges have a rich and varied history.
You don't have to even have to call it poetry.

Hey look I wrote a poem!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 05:40 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guide_book


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 05:48 PM

So Donuel,
We now can tell,
Is a poet
Who does know it.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 08:39 PM

I just read it and it has an extra 'have to'.
I have an aphasic stutter in spoken words too.

Oops I did it again...poem

egads and just there too
Rhymes seem to stick to me like glue
Is there anything I can do

Ahh I can read WAV with video and sound.
See... I'm cured.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 05:36 AM

...no longer feeling blue.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 03:53 PM

With newly captioned pics, my poem about The Birmingham Botanical Gardens and Glasshouses - "Bit of Each"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Dec 20 - 05:27 PM

With newly captioned photos (whilst, again, watching "The Sound of Music" on he Beeb), my poem on "Liverpool"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:20 PM

A poem and photos about the nice rail-side scenery where hills meet the sea in "North Wales"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 05:18 PM

"To Scotland, Again"
- with newly captioned pics from a train journey to Glasgow from Manchester, plus some of Glasgow's fine architecture and 2019 Christmas decorations.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jan 21 - 12:23 PM

"Millennium Dreams"
with photos from England and Australia.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 06:53 PM

With photos of the Burj Khalifa & a trad wind-tower dwelling in Dubai, my poem "Overcome"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 07:31 PM

Have you gone commercial in any way yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 12:02 PM

No Donuel: as an amateur, I've turned up at poetry and folk clubs and festivals (including a few competitions), and done some mini-gigs; on a lighter note, at Newcastle's Green Festival (quite a big one) it's free entry and unpaid performance, but we were given a ticket for a vegetarian meal so, that day, I literally sang for my supper!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 03:10 PM

With aerial photos of German farming (taken to and fro a visit to Rome in 2019), my poem on, when it comes to meeting global food needs, "Progress"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Jan 21 - 01:55 PM

With some photos from the observatory in Greenwich, London, my poem on Mars, "Pie in the Sky"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 07:41 AM

PIC OF ORION NEBULA i CALL MT OLYMPUS
I prefer the spectacular


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 04:59 PM

...I have never had a decent telescope but do have quite a good south facing view from my studio flat; and, just lately, I have been looking at Argos's options; I have 40 X zoom with my late grandad's binoculars but it would be nice to have over a 100...

I tried mostly trad English poetic forms in my collection, but also made up a couple of my own and had a go at an Italian sonnet, plus a few haikus - including this one with a few photos attached of airliners and contrails: "Humanity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 05:43 PM

Unless you want to spend an arm and a leg in order to get fuzzy views of the Great Red Spot or Saturn's rings, the best astronomy tools for the amateur astronomer are your eyes. A decent pair of 8x30 binoculars are useful at times too. Most zoom binoculars are of inferior optical quality, so don't bother. For meteor showers, magnifying tools are your worst enemy as they cut down drastically the amount of sky you can see. The bins will get you seeing some nice double stars, such as the one in the middle of the Plough handle (a triple, actually, which binocs will reveal), and you can see the four big moons of Jupiter (there's a brilliant app for them). Decent kit for viewing things close up in anything like decent definition will cost you big mazumas.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 05:51 PM

Thanks Steve.

This is one telescope I was tempted by Celestron PS70/700 Refractor Telescope

And this is a good site I found recently for seeing what is out there each night https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/night/

(100)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 06:11 PM

I strongly recommend the Star Walk app. It might cost you a couple of quid, a one-off, but it's incredibly beautiful. Point your phone or iPad at the sky and it tells you exactly what you're looking at in glorious view. Move your device around and you can follow the sky around, even below the horizon, and there are lots more facets to the app. I wouldn't be without it. Apart from Daily Art, it's my very favourite app.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 06:18 PM

I'm absolutely no expert on telescopes, but I would just say that, in order to save both disappointment and your hard-earned dough, you should do mucho homework before you buy, preferably on astronomy-type websites. It's something of a minefield, and I have a feeling that you definitely get what you pay for.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 06:21 PM

Thanks again Steve and I shall keep it in mind but, whilst I am up-to-date with my laptop and Windows 10, I don't have a smart phone as my 2002 model Nokia still works! (It's in my bag in case I have to make an emergency call and for the occasional message, and sometimes used as an alarm.)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Jan 21 - 02:40 PM

My poem "For the Poor" - shaped into a pyramid and with a photo of the Pyramid in Cestius, taken through a bus window in Rome, during my visit in May 2019.


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Subject: RE: Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 21 - 04:22 PM

Bagle


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Subject: RE: Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 21 - 05:07 PM

My poem sailing was shaped like a sailboat.

In photoshop finalize the text and draw new words in a different colour or colorize the finalized text witf a word or symbol
unused engagement ring


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 21 - 06:29 PM

Believe me, you have never written an actual poem.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Jan 21 - 05:32 AM

Either way, thanks for the Nasa pics, D. (I quite like the way they peel open); and an apology for the typo just above - it's the Pyramid OF Cestius, in Rome, sorry.


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Subject: RE:Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 11:00 AM

Familiar stars in OZ https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2101/SouthernCross_Slovinsky_3000.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 02:09 PM

Thanks, again, D. ... not sure what mountain that is?

My WalkaboutsVerse poem questioning "People or Money?" with a photo of zhezhi - the Chinese predecessor of Japanese origami - from a Hong Kong money-changer.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 04:04 PM

That is a mountain in Peru thats also beneath the horizon of the equator.

“The ultimate horizon”

Please, remember me
Happily
By the passion flower vine laughing
With bruises on my chin
The time when
We counted every black car passing
By my house beneath the hill
And up until
Someone caught cold that wasn't a cold
With a cough, and fever,
A hospital
A vision too removed to mention
But


Please, remember me
Fondly
I heard from someone you’re still living
And then
They went on to say
That the pearly gates
Had some eloquent graffiti
Like ‘We’ll meet again’
And ‘Fuck the Trump’
And ‘Tell my mother not to worry’
And angels with their grey
Handshakes
Were always done with such abandon
And

Please, remember me
At Halloween
Making fools of all the neighbors
Our faces painted white
By midnight
We’d forgotten one another
And when the morning came
I was ashamed
Only now it seems so silly
That season left the world
And then returned
And now we’re fed up by the city
So

Please, remember me
Mistakenly
In the window of the internet and kitchen
Then pass us by
But much too high
To see the empty roads at early hours
Leave notes of wisdom not read
Just like the gates
Around holy places
With words like ‘Beats underground’ and ‘Don’t Look Down’
And ‘Someone Save Temptation’
And

Please, remember me
As in a dream
We were raised like forest babies
Among the fallen trees
And fast asleep
Aside the weeds now taller than trees
That fell silently
Losing all their height
Gave a gift for tommorrow
In an empty canopy so new life cries
A new idea
That swings as high as any savior
But

Please, remember me
My misery
And how it cost me all my wonder
Those friends that love the rain
And chasing trains
The colored birds above there running
In circles round the well
And where it spells
On the wall behind St. Peter’s
So bright with cinder gray
in spray paint
‘Who the hell can see forever?’
And

Please, remember me
Frequently
In the car waiting for others to finish
My hand between my knees
I was only free to dream
And said I am the unknown poet
But never meant to last’
The clowns that passed
Made me come up with anger
DC was filled with circus dogs
Filling parking lots
It had an element of danger
So

Please, remember me
Finally
And all my uphilling musing
now sleds down the hill
But if I make
The pearly gates
I did my best to make a drawing
Of evil and good
A boy and girl
An angel kissing a devil
A monkey and a man
An orchestra and choir
Filling all of Earth
an auditorium
with old familiar songs.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Jan 21 - 02:58 PM

With reference to Henry Lawson's poem "Faces in the Street" and a photo of the monument to him in Sydney's Domain, my poem "The Order of the Day"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 21 - 08:13 PM

Old Hippie

Americans are most all immigrants.

HOW FAR WE HAVE COME

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we’ve made of the little they found

There’s cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come

The slave ships they came with the whip and the rack
And a million black people with scars on their back
Picked cotton, drew water, and slept in the cold
With a bible for comfort they were happy and cold

The laws they were passed, slavery went
Our lives integrated at least six percent
In the sharecroppers shack and the big city slum
Who can deny how far we have come

The immigrants came from the green Irish shore
From Poland and Russia, ten million and more
Germany, Italy, all the world round
To settle our ghettos and immigrant towns

Their brains and their bodies they put to the wheel
To build our great factories and towers of steel
To march to our battles and carry our guns
Who can deny how far we have come

Now all through the Andes, they’ve heard of our name
On the factory wall, in the palace of shame
They drink Coca Cola and the times that they spend
Goes straight to the pockets of our businessmen

To pay for our Fords, and our split level homes
Our Hi-Fis and records and six percent loans
Our profits protected with dictators guns
Who can deny how far we have come


In Asia and Africa, they’re learning too
How free enterprise can do wonders for you
South Africas prisons are bursting with men
Barbed wire keeps the Vietnamese in

Where elections are daydreams that never get far
American weapons are there standing guard
We’re ready to fight for the lands that we run
Who can deny how far we have come

Our fears they are many though they’re seldom saved
They’re black and they’re yellow and they’re brown and they’re red
They see through the legend, they smell the decay
They’re learning to fight the American way

And we in our armchairs are quick to condemn
Our bankbooks are falling, our profits might end
The breaking of change is our funeral hum
Who can deny how far we have come

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we’ve made of the little they found

There’s cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 12:02 PM

"Repatriating - Australia to England" - with a photo of an almost full-English fry-up.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jan 21 - 05:22 AM

Not sure if the attached pics of pollution are your thing (there is also one of a white rhino from a Nairobi Safari Walk), but here is my poem on the pros and cons of "Plastics"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jan 21 - 12:58 PM

"Moroccan Tea" and, if I do say so myself, the attached photos are mint!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:04 PM

With 3 syllables per line of verse, & plenty of flora & fauna pics, my poem "A Good Life"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 02:18 PM

With photos of Owen, Darwin, etc., my WalkaboutsVerse poem on "Paradigms"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 04:55 PM

"If we humans evolved from apes,
Why on earth are there living apes?"

Maybe you don't accept the theory of evolution, or maybe you've just kept yourself ignorant of its detailed proposals. In any event, these two lines are a travesty.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 04:32 PM

Not to compare myself in any other way, Steve, David Attenborough majored in zoology and has a strong interest in anthropology (I think his son still lectures on anthropology in Australia); and I majored in anthropology and have a strong interest in zoology.

Thus, I've watched and read a lot of his work, plus others such as on the Sky Nature channel, and agree with most evolutionary theory - but, to my mind, it does not explain everything/there are holes.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 04:54 PM

Of course. But do try to think of a branched tree, not a straight line.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 05:23 PM

...but Homo sapiens lived in the same locations/environments as other apes..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 05:41 PM

We still do.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 05:45 PM

...so they should be "we"!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 07:41 PM

At this point I'm terminating this particular line of enquiry. When one realises that one can't get through, yet persists in trying, one dices with the onset of insanity...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 09:17 PM

Meteors are colorful While the human or ape eye usually cannot discern many colors, cameras often can. Pictured is a Quadrantids meteor captured by camera over Missouri, USA, early this month that was not only impressively bright, but colorful. The radiant grit, likely cast off by asteroid 2003 EH1, blazed a path across Earth's atmosphere. Colors in meteors usually originate from ionized elements released as the meteor disintegrates, with blue-green typically originating from magnesium, calcium radiating violet, and nickel glowing green. Red, however, typically originates from energized nitrogen and oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere. This bright meteoric fireball was gone in a flash -- less than a second -- but it left a wind-blown ionization trail that remained visible for several minutes.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:56 AM

You will see plenty of colours in a meteor shower with the unaided eye if you set yourself up to observe as ideally as possible. A few years ago we were in Andalucía in an extremely remote location with a perfectly dark sky (1). There was no moon (2). The sky was cloudless and free of haze (3). My sister and I set ourselves up with two reclining deckchairs and aimed our gaze at the radiant of the Perseid meteor shower (4). I made sure that my distance specs were clean (5). We were lucky in that the temperature remained above 25C all night but we did douse ourselves in 50% deet. We saw many shooting stars, most of which were coloured other than "white." In less than ideal conditions, or if you just catch an accidental glimpse of a passing shooting star out of the corner of your eye, you may miss any colour. Of course, the colour-detecting cones in your retina are best in bright light...

And this has got what to do with poetry? Well, you never know...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 12:02 PM

...never been but have heard Andalusia has the only desert in mainland Europe.

Without recalling any given location, I do remember looking up at many stars from outback Australia. (I'm still looking into a telescope, by the way, but figure I'll wait for warmer weather in Manchester to open the door to my juliet balcony, so am not in such a hurry.)

Following on from debate over evolution, not sure if anyone is up for an animal, mineral, vegetable game! but here is my poem on "Collecting the (golf) Cards" - with an extra photo of my minimal mineral collection, just under the tele.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 12:19 PM

What does WAV have to do with poetry? I dunno
Waves on the other hand have everything to do with everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM

We've travelled quite a bit around Andalucía, but as it happens the desert at Tabernas is very close to where we mostly stay. The film set used for several spaghetti westerns is still there and is a tourist attraction. We stood in the desert but viewed the Wild West from afar only. We could only ever go in the height of summer and the temperature was routinely around 37-40C most days, except in the Sierra Nevada mountains and the somewhat lower-altitude sierras to the east. On one memorable day we tried to sit on a beach at Cabo de Gata in a gale-force wind and 40-degree heat, which wasn't quite like Bude in February. The humidity was so low that it was comfortable in the shade even on the hottest days. In a few minutes we'll be having our usual Wednesday cheesy night in, no cookery required, eaten off the lovely fishy-pattern pottery from the village of Alhabia in Almería province. The pottery may be Spanish but the cheeses will be English, French and German, the olives from Sicily, the cherry tomatoes from the Netherlands and the red and white wines from Puglia and Sicily. Oh, and Bath Olivers... I still proudly sport my EU badge when I'm out and about.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 01:51 PM

I enjoyed that.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:09 PM

I forgot to mention the chorizo, Spanish of course, which I sliced as thinly as I could. I chose a dolce version so as not to overwhelm tbe cheeses...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:12 PM

"...the somewhat lower-altitude sierras to the east..."

For any geography buffs checking up, I meant the sierras to the east of the Sierra Nevada.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:12 PM

I don't recall it from when I twice visited my late uncle and auntie (who had moved down from Manchester to a bungalow in Kilkhampton) but the Bude Sea Pool looks very inviting - when the climate warms-up and covid cools down, of course.

(Sydney is famous for what they call rock pools but from Google Maps and pics it seems at least as good.)

Hope to make a third visit one day...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 05:36 PM

I'm a member of Friends of Bude Sea Pool. It's been cleaned out, renovated and been given upgraded yet very tasteful facilities. It's a grand local asset these days. We had an old aunt of Mrs Steve and the aunt's daughter living in Kilk until about 20 years ago so we know it well. It's a few hundred feet above sea level and we joke about its chilly climate as compared with Bude. The sea pool is a great place to get sunset views over Summerleaze Beach to the Downs beyond. I have many such photos! Our favourite lockdown exercise is a quick stomp round the Downs, from Crooklets beach to Summerleaze, past the sea pool. It's been bracing recently!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 05:49 PM

Thanks for the local knowledge Steve - sounds good.

Haven't got a pic of it (as I say, I'd like to make another visit - with bridge camera) and I think I've posted it before when you have mentioned Bude, but after enjoying a walkabout I decided to call it "Birdwatchers' Bude" as, both along the coast and inland, I saw a lot that day.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 06:22 PM

Just behind the tourist centre we have a very unlikely colony of bee orchids. I'll have to take your word for it on tree creepers, but we have of plenty reed warblers (a bird with a sore throat) sand martins, chiffchaffs that now overwinter, a few kingfishers and otters in both the canal and river. I'm told that Ratty lives near Rodd's Bridge, but I fear he hasn't much chance while there are escaped mink about. The unintended adverse consequences of animal rights liberators.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 12:10 PM

I wrote that 20 years ago but imagine I would have checked if it was a "Treecreeper" I saw rather than, with a similar habit, a Nuthatch.

Also, I have since checked on the internet and am quite sure that the cliffs are indeed "sandstone" there in your nice part of the world - but, as you probably know, it varies throughout Cornwall.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 01:34 PM

I notice, mainly due to Covid I think, rugby league has moved closer to the suggestions I made in this poem many years ago - "One Rugby?"; with a photo of Headingley Rugby Stadium.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 01:59 PM

Massive upper Carboniferous sandstones alternating with thin, dark shales. Much-twisted and folded by the Armorican mountain-building phase. Makes for some great sea cliffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 02:08 PM

Cheers, Steve.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Feb 21 - 02:10 PM

With a couple of photos from the Museum of Islamic Art in Doha, my poem "Monopoly on Weaponry"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Feb 21 - 06:15 PM

With lots of photos of Kew's Kitchen Garden, and a couple of lakes, my song/chant from WalkaboutsVerse "Just Subsist"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Feb 21 - 04:29 PM

With a photo of London buses, my poem on "Congestion"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 12:03 PM

With photos of the Colosseum, Burj Khalifa and, soon to be, Buckingham Public Hospital, my poem "Along with the Ingenuity"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 12:53 PM

Just south of York where the York - Leeds railway line diverges from the East Coast Main Line is an area were a minor crosses over both lines.
This is a popular spot with rail enthusiasts.
It is also a good place to see bee orchids - from late spring onwards.
Always provided we will be allowed to visit.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 02:45 PM

Whoops

Should have typed minor ROAD - dindawlexting fingerts


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 03:04 PM

Thanks Malcolm - I know roughly where you mean and am quite sure I've been on the line between Leeds and York (probably for a work F2F meeting way back in the pre-Covid days!).

And I've never come across bee orchids but would like to try and photograph them and, if any good, attach to one or two of my poems...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 04:42 PM

Bee orchids were discovered in Bude about 20 years ago - in a patch of rough grass right behind the tourist information centre. I have some lovely photos (somewhere...)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 04:59 PM

I shall have to remember that for my next visit - "Bee Orchids' Bude," as well as, mentioned before, from my last visit "Birdwatchers' Bude".

...bridge camera on macro mode, probably...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 05:07 PM

Their flowering period is very brief, maybe around mid-June to mid-July.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Feb 21 - 04:33 PM

With mummy photos from the British Museum in London, my poem on "Global Regulationism"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 05:21 PM

With photos of me and my music, my poem "Testing 4,3,2,1"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Feb 21 - 04:20 PM

A tad late for Valentine's Day but with photos of a couple of head-turned collared doves, plus a few of Manchester's bees, my love song "We Go Together"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 03:05 PM

With some photos from Manchester Art Gallery, my poem "More Pictures"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 04:50 PM

Several photos attached to my song on a bus trip form Manchester's Piccadilly Gardens to "The Mersey At Didsbury"
- near my first of some 16 homes.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 01:18 PM

With several pictures of the castle and the views, my poem on, in Lancashire, "Clitheroe Castle's Views"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Feb 21 - 06:27 PM

With about 40 photos taken with my bridge camera in August 2019, my poem "Whalley Abbey...What Tales?"


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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 10:33 AM

Above ground where ther is more sky I stand on top of ‘the mountain of perspective’.
This mountain ‘starts off’ at the apex where there is infinite perspective
but once I move down away from this apex, the degree of perspective drops away.
As we move further down the mountainside I end up in an ever-deepening gully
The walls on each side rise up higher and higher, cutting off otherb routes.
At the top I could see in all directions and horizons went hundres of miles
At the bottom, I had no more freedom, I was irrevocably tied to my my feet on a path.
Underground in my minds eye a tunnel of infinite length and cracks and tunnel furrows.
Every furrow is infinite, and there are infinite numbers of them ye I see but one.
To gaze into it means to be trapped by it, to live in that furrow ignoring others

This reality is as an endless array of possible view none of which are essentially true,
and each of which excludes awareness of other views.
The only essential truth is the truth of the tunnel, which contains all the furrows,
If you can see all the furrows, then you can see how none of them are evrything
From mountain top to underground I see how with my eyes most information is lost.
I need new eyes beyond the sky and space and time to see the overwhelming truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 10:48 AM

Can anyone here post a live work of spontaneous invention and not just canned formulaic trivia with rules besides me?
It doesn't have to be perfect, just live in the moment and real.

All Dave's candy bars are alike. Who has something different?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 11:41 AM

Donuel: before I sat down to write poetry, I read a lot from the anthology of English verse and, in my collection, tried to use lots of different structures, as well as coming up with 1 or 2 of my own.

As for "in the moment," it's true that I have sat on the 230 poems and songs I self-published in 2003, but I have kept working at it - adding notation to the songs/Chants from Walkabouts and, as per this thread, photos from going back to the places I wrote about with my bridge camera.

And, just a few days ago, I have started adding a "Location on Google Maps" link at the foot of each blog/poem, in case folks are impressed enough to investigate towards their own visit.

That said, in agreement with you, I think, re "I was irrevocably tied to my feet on a path", I also feel folks should stick to the path rather than ramble anywhere - better for wildlife, etc.

And also fine with me if others wish to post their verses here.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 01:52 PM

With quite a few photos of Blackpool (including the Illuminations) and Fleetwood on the Lancashire coastline, plus the abovementioned Google Maps link, my poem on "A Good Seaside Day"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 02:41 PM

I am sure you have explored and discovered details nearly every little furrow. To gaze into one type of furrow imo means to be trapped by it, to live in that is a grave and not a farmers crop of diverse beauty and food for thought.
Don't denigrate Rambling - Bucko. That man has rambled means that he has inherited the Earth and did not remain in a valley in Africa to die. The Gettysburg address was the ramblings of a man on a train headed to Gettysburg.
With all due respect you are an expert organizer. Organization may fool the eye but not the heart. I prefer artists.
Example: your search for other people's rules and methods prove they are not your own like a singer who copies other people's style but have no voice of their own..Finding your own voice is not an easy thing to do. It is as hard as throwing away what you think you know and beggining anew. What you do is still better than one line inspirational corporate posters like "Hang in there kid".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 02:51 PM

Ouch - I hadn't copped a "Bucko" since my schooldays in the suburbs of Sydney!

Traditions exist where folks have been impressed by how their forebears did things, and I don't regret reading/studying Wordsworth, Blake, Shakespeare, etc., before attempting my own verse; that said, as I said just above, there are structures that I have not seen anywhere else in my collection - e.g., in "Wise"
it's the second last syllable that rhymes.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 02:55 PM

Why don't you ask mods to change your thread title to:
Unique Poems and WAV by Dave


This would be more inclusive and satisfying to your ego.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 05:48 PM

The uniqueness of this thread is that I'm adding pics to the travel poems which, to complete, could take quite some time, I'm afraid, Donuel:

A trip to the north of Sweden; another to Berlin (my first and only visit included going through Checkpoint Charlie in 1988), Paris and Nice/Monaco; Manchester > New York > LA > Tijuana > LA > Hawaii > Manchester; and a limited version of my trip from London back to what was then my home in Sydney - Mumbai > Gulmarg and Srinigar? > Kathmandu > Bali > Uluru > Adelaide > Ballarat > Echuca > Sydney.

And, from Sydney whilst staying with my family, a flight up to Cairns to visit Kuranda again; and a return flight to Fiji.

Plus several day trips in Lancashire to complete Part 3 of WAV - "Walkabout Lancashire".

For what it's worth, since publishing in 2003, I have only been to 2 new nations, as stop-overs when visiting family in Sydney - Qatar and UAE. I have, however, already been back to some nations with the photos above.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 06:03 PM

Well that work sounds like epic proportions. All I have for suggestions is a forward that could include details such as disease encounters, political and personal information not found in travel guides. Playing up the facts and not the poetry could make this more appealing to publishers. Separate the 'poems' not related to travel elsewhere.
Climb every mountain, fill every niche. :^)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 06:24 PM

Non-travel poems are "elsewhere", D - under Conclusions; the full title is "Walkabouts: travels and conclusions in verse".

If I'm still alive, I was thinking of trying my hand at digitally illustrating some of those without pics..?

Self publishing has been interesting: I've learnt the basics of desktop publishing, sound recording and engineering, printing, fonts, book binding, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 04:15 PM

"Irony In Lancaster"
, Lancashire, with several photos.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Mar 21 - 03:16 PM

"Proud Preston" with several photos of its interesting bridges over the River Ribble.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 05:04 PM

My song, with several photos from the Sydney Tower Eye and beyond, "Fondly and Vividly"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Mar 21 - 01:23 PM

http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.com/2010/12/walkaboutsverse-124-of-230.html with photos including one of a monument to Eric Morecambe.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Mar 21 - 03:06 PM

Sorry, not should what happened but above should have been "From Morecambe"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Mar 21 - 02:16 PM

With photos particularly closely matched to the words, one feels, my poem on, in Lancashire, "Blackburn Cathedral"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Mar 21 - 02:55 PM

With just one photo of a Cascade Globe in my flat, my poem from autumn 2000 on "Waterscapes of Oldham"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Mar 21 - 02:15 PM

Quite a few photos from trips "To Spacious Southport"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Mar 21 - 03:50 PM

With a photo of a snowstorm, my poem of thanks "To A Driver"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 02:41 PM

A poem about a small study in a Bury, Lancashire, flat that, 20 years ago, I painted in "Oxford Blue" - as did the owners of a shop I photographed in Oxford, with the same name, funnily enough!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 02:53 PM

To err is human - Bury, Greater Manchester, sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Mar 21 - 04:09 PM

With 8 photos attached, so far, my song "Lancashire Sung Simply"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Mar 21 - 03:30 PM

For Marx, it was religion, of course, but I think the National Lottery is "An Opium"
- my WalkaboutsVerse poem with a photo of a Thai lottery, taken on a visit to, otherwise, wonderfully cultural Chiang Mai.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Mar 21 - 05:51 PM

My poem on "Housing"
with a photo of my 3rd home in Sydney, and a video of my 15th home - a studio flat in Walthamstow, London.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Mar 21 - 05:32 PM

With a pic and a video, my very brief gardening song "In A Small Pot".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Mar 21 - 05:17 PM

"Olympics or Globalisation" - with a photo of London's, and Sydney's, Olympic Park.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 04:19 PM

My song on golfing lingo, "Lingolf", with a few photos of golf courses, in Hong Kong, Kenya, Australia, and England.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 05:06 PM

With photos of Lord's, the Bradman Museum in Bowral, the M.C.G, and a couple of other scenic ovals, my cricket poem "Dot-Ball"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:26 PM

With photos of statues and paintings (including one by my late grandfather, and another by George Stubbs), plus captions that just took me an hour or two, my poem questioning "Horses for Courses?"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Apr 21 - 05:40 PM

With a photo from a visit in 2019 to Saint Paul's Basilica in Rome, my poem "Getting to Know God"


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From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 02:00 AM

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From: WalkaboutsVerse - PM
Date: 19 Mar 21 - 05:51 PM

My poem on "Housing"
with a photo of my 3rd home in Sydney, and a video of my 15th home - a studio flat in Walthamstow, London.

you seem to own a lot of homes


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:01 AM

At the risk of being accused (damned if do or don't!) of boring you with pedantic detail, Sandman, I have never owned a home and don't wish to: after flying the nest, I've always rented - preferring council/social housing as I don't like capitalism, frankly.

So I'm now living in my 16th home - without owning any of them.

The state should own and rent-out all housing - with some inequality such that folks have the incentive of an economic ladder to climb, via what I've termed "Global Regulationism".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:39 AM

...and, on my travels, God knows how many other beds I've slept in..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Apr 21 - 06:20 PM

On England's south coast, beautiful elegant "Eastbourne"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Apr 21 - 05:16 PM

Listed in verse from a 2001 visit, with photos from 2017 and 2019 visits, "The Many Elements of Buxton" in Derbyshire.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Apr 21 - 05:16 PM

"Lytham & St. Anne's" - including photos of the famous golf course.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Apr 21 - 02:54 PM

With a photo of a Youth Hostel Association stamp from 1988, my song on "Windermere" in England's lovely Lake District. (I hope to make, at least, two more visits soon - one with my camera, and one with my swimming togs.)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Apr 21 - 05:51 PM

...in the chorus, I go up and down the scale to try and create the feeling of walking up and down the fells.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 04:15 PM

My song "Tees to Tyne: First Impressions" with several photos from my 13 years living in Newcastle upon Tyne.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 04:36 PM

With photos from return visits to Southport in 2017 & 2018, my poem from 2001, "On A Clear Day"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Apr 21 - 04:30 PM

With just the one photo (so far) of what I termed the "Giant's Divots" of North Wales, my poem on "Holyhead and Surrounds"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Apr 21 - 06:37 PM

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2104/Pencil_TurgeonMishra_3930.jpg
Holy shit Background
Everything emits light particuliary in the IR spectrum so naturally people glow. I am not alone in having a wide spectrum of vision albeit it less intense in color saturation overall. UV looks really violet to bright black. IR looks like a soft white glow to deep red. Some people glow right through their jeans and clothing when background light is low. For people who do not have this light sensing ability it is imperative to never mention it to them for obvious reasons. Especially religious nuts.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 01:15 PM

...from a starry night, to sycamore leaves on the road "To Rivington" in Lancashire.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:46 PM

With photos of a few of mine, "A Fern In Full Flight"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 01:35 PM

A poem, with pics, on my move from Greater Manchester to Newcastle upon Tyne (it was actually 9/11 or 11/9/2001 that, after some understandable delay, I viewed and signed to stay) "Further North" (via a couple more years in London, I'm now back in Manchester).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Apr 21 - 01:43 PM

"Valley Views" in verses and photos, from the abovementioned flat in Newcastle upon Tyne.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 01:05 PM

Again captured from the abovementioned flat, "Circles"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 03:47 PM

This time a haiku from that Newcastle flat - about seeing the Harvest Moon when "Awoken"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 04:01 PM

Col. Blarthengar wrote something quite similar while in India.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 04:24 PM

This time Google was not my friend, so pray enlighten me, Donuel..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Apr 21 - 01:38 PM

Another haiku, with just one pic, "Through the Night"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 01:59 PM

With just one pic of the Newcastle bridge in question, "Sat Under A Bridge's River-Flow"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 04:14 PM

I think the photos, captions, and verses combine particularly well in this one - "Upon Armstrong Bridge", Jesmond Dene, Newcastle upon Tyne.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 06:45 PM

Hmm ?

I understand that people wish to promote their own material.

However .................

If one individual posts over 150 times in less than 2 years is this not a touch of overkill?

I may have been slightly more generous if the material had any merit but from where I am sitting it is unadulterated ..........


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Apr 21 - 01:57 PM

Hi Raggytash - I completed my collection in 2003 and, admittedly, as I have been on Mudcat a long time, most who wished to have a look would have already done so; but, a few years ago, I decided to add photos to some of the poems - hence this new thread.

E.g., above someone mentioned not liking my poems but did appreciate the photos of My Diet and, according to Google's stats, a few others are clicking on the links to have a look...

With four photos attached, "A Glassy Tyne"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Apr 21 - 02:00 PM

David have you ever thought of writing a tribute poem to the bard of dundee. you know how in music we have tribute bands well how about a tribute poem to the writer of bridge over the silvery tay


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Apr 21 - 02:08 PM

The (mighty?) McGonagal has spoken for himself, Sandman.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Apr 21 - 09:23 PM

Another couple of names to compare with...

John Lennon performed an aspect of American culture - pop - and left England for the USA, before having an airport here named after him.

After study and respect for Aboriginal land rights, I have put a lot into my repatriation and am, frankly, extremely unpopular.

When Gandhi, on the other hand, repatriated from Africa to Asia, most Hindus loved him for it and increasingly asked Europeans (most of whom were English) to repatriate.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Apr 21 - 03:53 AM

...and Lefty Laver left Australia for money in America...and had an Australian Open arena named after him?!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 21 - 10:08 AM

Celebrate your RAD (reputation after death) now.
Ya can't do it after.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Apr 21 - 01:48 PM

...a fisher of men and women?! With 4 pics, my poem on "Whitley Bay Fishermen"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Apr 21 - 12:47 PM

With 2 pics from Jarrow, Newcastle upon Tyne, my poem "Next Time"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 May 21 - 03:38 PM

Still masked but having had my first jab, made my first photography outing in many months today (the above are ones newly sorted and captioned from previous such outings).

A simple train journey to Bolton, with photos newly added to these 3 poems -

"Once Churches"

"Entrée"

"Further North"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 May 21 - 05:58 PM

"Wallsend", Newcastle, with pics of Segedunum Roman Fort and Museum.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 May 21 - 01:07 PM

3 photos of The Side in Newcastle upon Tyne, attached to my poem on "The Quick Clubbers' Trot in Newcastle"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 May 21 - 04:41 PM

"On A Saturday", with a photo of Newcastle's excellent People's Theatre.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 May 21 - 03:24 PM

Verses and photos on, in N.E. England, the "W.W.T. Washington" (Wildfowl and Wetland Trust).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 May 21 - 03:27 PM

With newly-captioned photos and a Google Maps link, my poem on "A South Shields Walkabout"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 May 21 - 03:43 PM

With pics, and a video actually taken on New Year 2018 (hopefully, I'll get my camera out again on 5/11/2021), a haiku poem mentioning the gap between the speed of light and sound, noticed on Bonfire Night - "Remember, Remember"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 May 21 - 03:07 PM

With a couple of aerial photos, from North East to South West England "To See an Uncle, Again" (in Bude, Cornwall).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 May 21 - 01:36 PM

With just the one pic, my poem "Weathered Pipes...Somewhere"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 May 21 - 04:41 PM

"A Second Ballet"
including photos of Sydney Opera House.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 May 21 - 04:50 PM

With a photo of The Great North Road/my road to Damascus, getting me into folk music back in 2002, "The 35th Morpeth Northumbrian Gathering"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 May 21 - 05:06 PM

With a few pics of the neat harbour and a Google Maps link, my poem on "Cullercoats"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 May 21 - 05:26 PM

With photos added via joining the 5pm Queue after work in 2014 (not an option this year due to Covid), my poem "Musing on Wimbledon - Summer 2002"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 May 21 - 01:59 PM

With photos of the staithes (in NE England, landing stages), my poem on "Blyth"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 May 21 - 03:35 PM

A few pics added to my poem on "Bede's World" (now called Jarrow Hall) in Newcastle upon Tyne


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 May 21 - 04:31 PM

With a few pics perhaps strengthening my case, my poem on "Atlas Siblings - Newcastle upon Tyne, and London"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 May 21 - 06:49 PM

With pics taken this afternoon and sorted this night, my poem on, in the south of Manchester, "Wythenshawe Park"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 May 21 - 06:21 PM

With photos from England, Australia and Kenya, my poem on zoos "In Situ"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 May 21 - 05:52 AM

You should stick to the town you were born in instead of culturally appropriating other peoples...

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:15 PM

As I've posted before, Dave, I like eco-tourism between our United Nations.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 04:13 PM

With just the one pic of the mudflats in Morecambe, Lancashire, my poem on "On Fishing Regulation"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 May 21 - 01:01 PM

I told you that I will happily piss on your parade. You have been having posts deleted I believe. I am not at all surprised given how you turn every other thread you post to into something about you or your 'poetry'. Give it a rest and I will stop posting here :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 May 21 - 11:32 AM

As I said on the Read Every Thread thread, Dave - a change on Mudcat is that I used to be able to link (but not copy/paste) one of my poems on a relevant thread; but, nowadays, more-and-more, they get deleted - e.g., there is a current thread on trains where I posted my poem on a train journey to Rawtenstall, Lancashire, which was soon deleted, sadly.

For what it is worth, I will be posting less often on here now - I have been reading through and adding/captioning photos already taken, but that is just about done.

Thus, mainly just after an outing with my camera now to add new pics to some of my poems...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 May 21 - 12:42 PM

Maybe just stick to one thread for posting your poems? With or without pics.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 May 21 - 12:55 PM

No, Dave - way back, I used to post my Weekly WalkaboutsVerse on a Mudcat thread (as well as Twitter, MySpace, FB, WriteOutLoud, & LInkedin); I only started this one because I started adding photos to the blogs/poems on my Google Blogger site.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 May 21 - 01:29 PM

I don't think I am getting my point across well enough. Having a couple of threads for your poetry is fine. It is when you pop up on many random threads posting your poems, links to them or your own pecullier brand of nationalism that people get pissed off. As I said elsewhere, if you don't like something, fine, just say you don't and leave it at that. Don't try to take over other peoples threads for your own self-aggrandisment.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 May 21 - 01:42 PM

"if you don't like something, fine, just say you don't and leave it at that"...you are not thinking clearly there, Dave - lots of debate happens on Mudcat, rather than just giving a thumbs-up or down, thank God.

And, e.g., my polite criticisms (and those from others) of Eurovision were not deleted, pleasingly.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 May 21 - 02:48 AM

It does, WAV, and the moderation team got that pissed off with UK politics finding its way into multiple threads they insisted that it was limited to just one thread. I think that is as clear a warning to stop posting to multiple threads on the same subject as any. If you do not heed that warning it is no skin off my nose but you will have no one to blame but yourself for the consequences. I don't see how I can make it any clearer.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 May 21 - 09:54 AM

Thankfully, others can be clearer, Dave.

With a poem critical of his serving (in more ways than one), and a photo in praise of the beautiful Maxply racket he used, my poem "Serious Serving"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jeri
Date: 31 May 21 - 09:59 AM

Moderators delete spam.
This thread, we don't mess with.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 May 21 - 10:13 AM

My understanding is this - because (whatever the quality) I have written poems on many topics, I can and have linked them to many threads on Mudcat; thus, I was instructed a few years ago that I'm no longer allowed to copy/paste the verses here but may link to them.

However, just recently, one or two moderators have decided I can't do that either.

As regulars will know, other members may do both..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 May 21 - 11:10 AM

E.g., on another thread, MG tells us he hopes to visit Kerry, among other places, in these isles, later this year; I read the thread and decide to post my poem about playing golf at the beautiful Ring of Kerry, only to find it has been deleted - as I say, that (a waste of my time for me and possible loss of inspiration for MG) did NOT happen for many years.

WalkaboutsVerse can't respond in verse, while others can?!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 05:34 PM

With photos of war memorials in London and Lancashire, my poem "Remember Them?"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 05:45 PM

Broke away from the French Open tennis for an evening outing to an ex home in Eccles with my camera - adding pics to my poem "From an Eccles Flat" (as you may know, where Eccles cakes come from).

(I also added a photo of the Eccles War Memorial to the above "Remember Them?" poem.)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jun 21 - 01:40 PM

With photos from the British Museum, in London, and a Diego Rivera print in my flat, my poem on "A Multicultural World of Carrying"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 04:22 PM

Yesterday, after receiving my second Covid jab there, I took some photos of Manchester's SportsCity area - a huge sports hub akin to the Bois de Boulogne area of Paris, or the Melbourne Sports and Entertainment Precinct.

Hence, 5 pics added to my poem "Manchester - A Gist"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 03:14 PM

...or, indeed, Rome's Foro Italico area, where Italy are now playing Switzerland in the Stadio Olimpico, and where I saw qualifying matches for the Italian Open tennis 2 years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Jun 21 - 05:38 PM

A couple more photos and captions added to the second-last poem in my collection of 230, "Joys Of Life"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Jun 21 - 01:48 PM

Having visited with my pen a couple of decades ago, and with my bridge camera a couple of days ago, please find some pics newly attached to my poem on, in Greater Manchester, "Worsley Village"

...if one can't write a decent poem or take some decent photos of this place...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 21 - 02:43 PM

Not every picture is worth a 1,000 words.
1,000 words can't describe a masterpiece.
Birds on wires only look like music script.
Words may resemble whats been better said
but in hollow, boring, and lifeless ways.
Keep mundane mondays give me saturday night


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 05:19 AM

Donuel & a musical bird on a wire on a Saturday night...quite a sight!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 09:11 AM

My first job was with WUDC - Worsley Urban District Council. Known by us as Working Under Difficult Conditions :-)

Then, one day in April 1974, I went to bed in Swinton, Lancashire, working for Worsley Council and woke up the next day in Salford, Greater Manchester and working for the Salford City Council. I didn't even notice! Still, I suppose the new Salford metropolitan area was nothing new after all. The Hundred of Salford, which encompassed the whole new area and much more, had Anglo-Saxon origins.

Incidentally, a friend I used to see regularly until his stroke laid him low and I moved out of the area was Ted Edwards. He wrote some of the finest songs and poems known to the folk world from his Eccles flat! Look up some of his work for inspiration :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Jun 21 - 05:04 AM

I couldn't find any of his poetry on the web, sorry Dave, but, for what it's worth, did read a lot from English anthologies before, and as, I started my collection, which I ended in 2003.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 21 - 12:58 PM

Here is a Mudcat thread, WAV


Ted Edwards and cronies

Good a place as any to start :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Jun 21 - 01:28 PM

Had a look thanks, Dave - I'm still not familiar with him and those songs, probably partly as I'd moved to Newcastle by then, and only got into folk after attending the Morpeth Northumbrian Gathering from there.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 01:09 PM

I think there is a lot of imagery you would like. "Coal Hole Cavalry" for instance is from the point of view of a child in bed listening to the sound of clogs on cobbles and picturing it was the cavalry coming to the rescue :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 05:07 PM

...maybe a bit like Edwin Waugh..? I didn't attempt dialect poetry myself, but I do like his trad imagery in "Poems and Songs of Old Lancashire".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jul 21 - 04:35 PM

As you may know, whereas in London there are excellent parks in the centre, in Manchester we have to go a bit further out, as I did with my camera yesterday (a couple of decades since my first visit) to "Moses Gate"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 May 22 - 05:51 PM

A month ago, I returned to the Silk Museum in Macclesfield, Cheshire, to add some photos to the poem I wrote from my first visit, 21 years earlier, and learnt about ahimsa/peace silk - "Macclesfield's Mulberry Tree"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 22 - 07:48 PM

100 yeqrs ago thousands of mulberry trees were planted in my neck of the woods for a noveaux silk trade. The winters proved too harsh but the trees are delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 May 22 - 10:48 AM

Yes, Donuel - although I slightly prefer raspberry jam.

To use a bit of local vernacular, silk has certainly been the mother of all threads for us humans (some say the Silk Road from China actually ends in Macclesfield), but I have also seen birds nick spider webs for their nest.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 May 22 - 02:35 PM

From a revisit last week, my poem on, again in Lancashire, "Warrington Museum and Library"
; and, among the added photos, you will see that, quite rightly, Cromwell's olde lodge (about 10 minutes walk from the museum) is in far better nick than that of his royalist rival!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 May 22 - 03:38 PM

Catching up, after the above return to Moses Gate, last year I also went back with my bridge-camera to York, Chester, Liverpool, and Hamilton Road Park (between Manchester and Bury) for my poem on "Sunday Cricket and Berries"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 09 May 22 - 04:37 PM

You could walkabout the wooly mammoth graveyard in southern england.
I wonder if opal has ever been mined in england.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 May 22 - 04:55 PM

No poem about it, D., but I once stayed (as many locals do for an even comfortable temperature all year round) in an underground backpackers at Coober Pedy - which, as you may know, is a town in South Australia famous for opal mining.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 May 22 - 12:11 PM

My brief poem, with lots of pics, "On York and Chester" - including the huge Railway Museum in York, where one could probably spend a month and not spot everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 May 22 - 10:23 AM

And "Within Chester Cathedral's Cloisters"


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 May 22 - 08:43 AM

Having added photos in 2017 & 2018, I returned to "Liverpool" last year, as I'd forgotten about the art gallery mentioned in my poem; I also keep contributing photos to Google Maps and, for what it's worth, the one of Walker Art Gallery's statues has nigh on a million views, and still tops the list of photos there.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 May 22 - 04:03 PM

Still a lot more camera-outings to make, but I think this brings me back up-to-date here in terms of photos already taken and attached to poems: last week, 22 years on, I went back to Radcliffe (north of Manchester), where the scenic route from my ex-home to my ex-work was actually the shortest way on foot; I used to take notes which I eventually turned into "Following the Sun"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 May 22 - 07:17 PM

Radcliffe is my home town. Cheers for the pics. I haven't lived there for half a century now but I recognise a lot of the places.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 May 22 - 10:55 AM

Hi Steve - glad you enjoyed the pics of your hometown; and, probably later this year, I hope to revisit, again with my camera, what I think is still your present town, Bude, and swim in what looks on Google Maps like a fine Sea Pool. You may recall me saying my late-uncle moved there (actually nearby Kilkhampton) from Manchester, and I made a couple of visits and a poem about it - "Bird Watchers' Bude," linked above.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 May 22 - 10:59 AM

...or NOT linked above, sorry, because I have not taken the pics yet! "Birdwatchers' Bude"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 May 22 - 03:27 PM

Choo-choo: a couple of decades on from my poem, the steam train still runs, on the East Lancashire Railway line, from Bury to "Rawtenstall" - thus, photos from my bridge-camera now attached.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 May 22 - 06:25 PM

I suppose that that's the steam train that runs under the bridge by the Premier Inn in Bury. I've leaned on that bridge, not far from the Peel monument, many times to see the train go past, though I haven't been on the train. My two kids have (now in their forties!), as it was one of the treats provided by my mum and dad when they stayed with them, just a mile away down Radcliffe Road.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 May 22 - 03:48 AM

Yes Steve - just up Bolton Street (which it soon runs under) from Peel Monument and Bury's main church; the guard told me the line also crosses the Irwell some 9 times, on quite a scenic journey to Rawtenstall. (Not sure if it did 2001, but it now also runs the other way to Heywood, which I have not been on.)


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 07:19 AM

...clog dancing to his English cittern playing.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 08:58 AM

No, Steve - from my anthropology major, my travels on a shoestring, etc., I'm genuinely upset by the decline of English culture in England.

And, as for "cod-nationalism", if English fare becomes any more rare & exotic in modern England, it may soon come back into fashion..?!


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 10:50 AM

A happy medium would be nice - not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink (a polar opposite to now, if you'll pardon the pun).


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From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 11:07 AM

"not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink"

Wrong once again, WAV old boy. It was SFA to do with 'pride' and everything to do with avarice.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 11:21 AM

Both, BW.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 11:31 AM

" not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink (a polar opposite to now, if you'll pardon the pun)."

Am I mistaken, WAV, or are you advocating white supremacy with that statement and the "pun" that followed it? Just curious.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 12:05 PM

You are mistaken, Gillymor - seemingly only reading what BW quoted and not my whole post, which included "A happy medium would be nice".

I want English to love our world/our United Nations being multicultural - INCLUDING English culture in England.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 12:42 PM

It appears that you're advocating segregation of the races.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 12:46 PM

I've VISITED about 40 nations, Gillymor.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 01:10 PM

Do you believe the races should be separate?


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jun 22 - 01:26 PM

I'm not saying all can or should do as I've done and repatriate to the land of their forebears, Gillymor.

I think the United Nations should make all economic/CAPITALIST immigration illegal from now on, and help genuine asylum seekers to their NEAREST safe nation.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Jun 22 - 03:43 PM

If I'm called anti-immigrationist, I can accept it with some qualification but NOT "racist" (above), which is defamatory (&, making it worse, the posts - which did not have any racism in them - can no-longer be read.

I love our world/our United Nations being multicultural - including English culture in England which IS on the decline and, thus, I'm one of those trying to do something about it.

Furthermore, I am anti-monarchism without being against any particular royal (I agree with Charles Windsor on some environmental issues, and have said above that Elizabeth Windsor happens to be quite a good public speaker - whether or not she actually writes all the words, as Steve mentions above).


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 05:34 AM

We should be planting more Dog Roses in England - along with the other native flora that our native fauna EVOLVED with.

Agree, Dave, to the extent that, until around the 1950s & mass economic/CAPITALIST immigration, England was an old old blend of European cultures.

And, whilst I was sin the Mudcat "sin bin" (hopefully for the last time), I noticed William Windsor out selling Big Issues, and a regular seller (almost certainly with 100s of times less wealth) falling for it by calling him "The Peoples' Prince".


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 05:35 PM

I thought you hoped that your last visit to the sin bin was the final one? It is racist comments like that that put you there and it seems, for all your bragging about your 'major' (is that an English thing?) and your travels, you never learn.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 05:52 PM

Nothing in my last post is racist, Dave, &, if things were fair, you not I would be sin binned - you have not said where I am wrong but just lazily used the R word again, against a long-term member of Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 06:01 PM

You don't get a free pass just because you've been on Mudcat for a long time, mate. I can think of a couple of others who were here for a long time who got booted. I've sailed close to the wind meself as it happens. So don't try to pull that one, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 06:07 PM

you both know that since the 1950s (when less than half a percent were not born here) England's population has changed radically

Why, with all your qualifications and world experience can you not see that as a racially charged statement? Making comments like that is either racist or totally insensitive. Either way you need to stop. But, hey, that is just my advice for if you want to stop being binned. Take it or leave it. No skin off my nose.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 06:20 PM

I'll put it another way for you, then, Steve & Dave - each "ball"/post should be played on its merits; we don't wont monarchical-like inequality, or people resorting to lazy cheap-shots, here do we?


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 07:18 PM

What I've said is realism not racism, SRS, and, in the U.S. or the U.K., any lawyer would tell you that - even if they happened to have pro-immigrationist beliefs.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 07:13 AM

And many of those countries are in turn made of of other races! The whole concept of pure races is and always has been a falacy.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 10:25 AM

The fact is, less than half a percent of England's population in the 1950s was not born here &, due to mass economic/CAPITALIST immigrtnion, England IS a lot more multicultural now than then - whether or not we like it, denying that is foolish.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 12:12 PM

No one is denying it WAV but only you seem to be saying that multiculturalism is a bad thing. Which is why you are seen as either racist, stupid or both. Whether you like that or not, denying it is foolish!


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 12:39 PM

You ignore/"deny", Dave, what I've said here many times - I love our world/our United Nations being multicultural (following many walkabouts, a major in anthropology, etc).


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 12:47 PM

You ignore/"deny", what I've said many times. What you have here is a travelog. It aint poetry or verse in my book.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 12:54 PM

I have never once ignored or denied that we are now more multicultural and I challenge you to find an example. I have always said that multiculturalism on our little isle is a good thing though. Which you now seem to be saying as well so I think the discussion is at an end.

Continue at your own risk!


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 02:21 PM

...we both, I gather, Dave, don't like John Lennon's way in "Imagine" where we all blend into the one boring culture, but you like your nation being multicultural whereas I like the United Nations being multicultural; now, perhaps, we can end this discussion, which is not that far from the thread in terms of what & how the Jubilee was celebrated?


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Raggytash
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 03:16 PM

" a major in anthropology"

You have mentioned this several times WAV, are we supposed to be impressed by it.

I would suggest that many of us on here have a degree or honours degree or higher.


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 04:35 PM

Long live trad metre & rhyme, Donuel! (Dave - I addressed your second-last post with due care, but it got deleted: briefly, our United Nations v. our nation being multicultural.)


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Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 05:10 PM

The league of nations was formed after WW1 and proved to be completely ineffective as WW2 proved. So, after WW2 the United nations was formed. That, to date, has also proved totally ineffective and has been so for nearly 80 years. It is a red herring that you keep throwing in and absolutely sweet FA to do with either this thread or multiculturalism. For heavens sake WAV, just give it a rest.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Jun 22 - 05:51 AM

(Just a brief clarification, my "Long live trad metre & rhyme", just above, was in regard to this video link from Donuel).

To "give it a rest" (Dave), from Manchester at least, there was a nice-looking full Strawberry Moon, low on the horizon, last night - with just one pic, my poem "Through the Night".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Jul 22 - 03:24 PM

Just got back from a (mostly) swimming holiday to Torquay on the English (who needs the French!) Riviera, and thus have added a pic to my song about swimming from "State to State"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 11:44 AM

You may not need French for Riviera, WAV, but you certainly need Italian :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jul 22 - 11:24 AM

Yes, Dave, it's an Italian word & there is, of course, an Italian Riviera as well; joking apart, I hope to return to the French Riviera (probably staying in Nice) to add photos to my poem on "Monaco And Its Railway Loo" (as it was in 1988, at least).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 05:24 PM

Made a day-trip today, via train & tram, to Oldham in Greater Manchester.

As I anticipated, the display I wrote about in Autumn 2000 was no-longer at the Gallery there, so I just added a couple of pics of the impressive façade to my poem on "Waterscapes of Oldham".

Also took a pic of Oldham War Memorial & attached it to my poem "Remember Them?".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 05:44 PM

It looks like you managed to play a chord using your abdomen but the headgear is cool.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 06:11 PM

I'd probably have to do some cryptic crosswords before figuring that one out, Donuel, and I don't think I'll bother; I chose reality poetry, with trad metre & rhyme, as my medium so folks hopefully wouldn't be scratching their heads.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 07:39 AM

From a display of a different kind at the same, above, Gallery Oldham, I've just added a couple of League pics to my poem "One Rugby?"

And bee (symbol of Manchester) bags to my song "We Go Together"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 08:05 AM

happy birthday belated


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 08:33 AM

I am refering to the picture you have on every page of your "poetry" of yourself playing a wood flute. You dunlap. Your abdomen dun laps over the keyboard. Now people will have to click the link to look.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 08:50 AM

I see now, thanks, Donuel. That's the way Google's Blogger is set-up and, by the way, I think it must be one of the best free website options, with no limits on visits & ads only if you choose to add them (which, as an amateur, I don't). I now live in a small studio flat in Manchester & only have a Casio SA-46 "lap-top" keyboard but, back then in my 2-bedroom Newcastle flat, I had a bog-standard recording studio, with a large keyboard.

And, thanks Sandman - 56 years plus 4 days since I was born in Manchester/England won the FIFA World Cup at Wembley (& 3 days since the ladies won the Euros, of course!).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 09:18 AM

Little Jane and John, bought a house in Texas,
And climate deniers were they.
The home sure looked great when 20 years rolled around.
They were so proud, yes siree!

And this is what he said on
the day their house was all gone:

OMG,
I guess we'll have to flee,
our house beneath the sea.
Sea Rise is no joke,
when you begin to choke
every other day
in a flood of debris.

Remember, Janie,
how climate change was crazy
they said it was a hoax
I'll try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the flood is over,
A million fucking years from now!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 10:35 AM

...adding Texas to the in-danger list of Venice, Kiribati, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 01:45 PM

Coastal; Texas, Louisiana, Missisippi, Georgia, Florida...in less than 50 years will look like Cleopatra's palace looked, too wet to walk.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 01:52 PM

Its now under 5 meters of sea water.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 07:18 PM

Allow me to extend some unsolicited poetic devices based on the element of surprise. Like music, surprise in poetry is its essence. Do not fall for the 'unfathomable excuse' of the lazy. Or think an abstract piece is just hung upside down. There may be a fractal truth you could see if you look closer.

1. Rhythm change. It can change in beats or produce a kama sutra sycopated rhythm but it can change. 'All you need is love' is in the time signature of 7/4 but you probably never realized it unless you are performing it.

2. Modulation. Tone, subject, meaning and color can all change.

3. Enigmatic metaphors. People will have to supply their own meaning or ignore the metaphor like 'and shes buying her stairway to heaven'??

4. Surprise is a kind of contrast. It might be a direction change or a sudden witicism. imo it beats a boring pentameter with a bell ringing on every rhyme.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 08:17 PM

"'All you need is love' is in the time signature of 7/4 but you probably never realized it unless you are performing it."

This song changes metre all the time. The chorus is not in 7/4 and several other time signatures apart from 7/4 are employed. I'd say that it's better to realise this before you perform it. Try wiki.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 08:39 PM

Its fine to extend my remarks and include extraneous material or lengthy explanations. It's called discussion.
Repudiation is for debate.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 09:06 PM

I'm just saying that you got it wrong. Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 09:21 PM

I know someone who is all shades of wrong but such is the tragedy of narcicism.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 10:56 PM

a brief example of surprise

It is now evident to everyone
that the most insidious pandemic
is one of extremist insanity.
Is it a symptom of; Covid,
Wall Street pillage, Trump fascism,
racism, global warming climate immigration,
a billionaire explosion
or perhaps pumpkin spice poisoning?
Whether it is a disease, syndrome or toxin,
there ought to be a way to feel right
boost our immune system,
get a vaccine or take a pill
but the other symptoms
are delusion and denial so we deny the answer
that is hiding in plain sight.

THERE ARE 8 BILLION OF US!!!!
When I was born there were 3.

Reproduction is exponential
food and water production is not.

THE GREAT SLIDE HAS BEGUN.
We are only at the top of the slide just starting to accelerate.
The fall is slow at first and is only at 45 degrees.
When we approach 90 degrees we will be in free fall.
Dystopia will be a luxury for the few.
The entitled will be disappointed
that delivery will not exist
and defeats all their strategies.
There will be some real
4 horsemen biblical shit.
But right now we can forget.
There are some people who feel
that i am the optimist


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 11:11 PM

Why aren't you out on a street corner with a sign that reads THE GREAT SLIDE HAS BEGUN. Seems awfully selfish of you, hoarding all that wisdom and not inflicting it on a wider audience, hopefully somewhere other than here.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Aug 22 - 11:31 PM

This is where WAV shares his creative endeavors. Some of the posts are way off topic - perhaps best taken to more germane threads? He isn't permitted to post the poetry in other threads, so perhaps doing the courtesy of not posting other stuff here would be a good exchange.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 06:12 AM

That's true SRS - for many years I was allowed to link to my poems as part of my argument on other threads but was told not to a couple of years ago.

Personally, I don't mind other verse & prose here.

Munch of Mudcat's oomph is argument-based, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 08:05 AM

The fever swamp still has rules and laws. The die off event is not a slow extinction. It will be much less than 1/3. We ARE resourceful.
Hey gilly if you haven't noticed, its too hot on the street corner. Your contribution of denial is noted. The future doesn't belong to anyone but anyone can play. A shit-optimist faces long odds but still has hope. Anyway while I'm here I should check out where the sight seer has been.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 08:30 AM

Hey, my Kensington home boy, I was just praising your talent for stating the obvious, in a long-winded manner, like you're bringing stone tablets down from the mount. Sort of like Prof. Irwin Corey's act if he'd taken himself seriously.

(apologies to SRS but WAV doesn't seem to mind the diversions)


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 08:43 AM

The antique district is bigger than ever!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 08:48 AM

I remember bicycling through there all those years ago and stopping at the Baskin Robbins on the way back.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 10:09 AM

A Welcomed first step
hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope

But First we have to
hype then we have to hope
hope hope hope hope hope hope
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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 10:18 AM

You also have a great talent for missing, or conveniently avoiding the point, homey.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Aug 22 - 10:18 AM

It was just a suggestion, and he chooses not to change the patter here. Proceed.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Aug 22 - 01:43 PM

A train journey through Lancashire, from Manchester to Barrow-in-Furness, allowed me to add some pics to my song "Lancashire Sung Simply"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Aug 22 - 09:46 AM

"Barrow-in-Furness, Seen With A Pal - Summer 2001" - my only "pal" this time being my bridge-camera (hence several photos attached, including nearby Furness Abbey).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 22 - 06:07 PM

Nice song. I like the evolution of style. Are those holes in the ground   from peat removal?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Aug 22 - 06:40 PM

Thanks Donuel; and not sure - but there are still peatlands in Lancashire.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 04:48 AM

There were nice yew trees around Furness Abbey ruins (above), and I've just added a couple of pics to my poem "Why the Yew?"...but YOU may have another explanation as to why they are so often found beside our religious buildings..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 06:07 AM

I honestly think that nobody really knows. If you google it you'll read all sorts of nonsense about "Celtic druids" and the like, and that they were valuable sources of wood for the manufacture of longbows, the fact that they were in churchyards being a deterrent against the theft of the wood. That seems a stretch to me.

Interestingly, you'll also read that all parts of the yew are poisonous. This is mostly true, although the soft red fleshy bit around the seed is not only not poisonous but also quite tasty. However, be advised that you are asking for trouble if you accidentally swallow the black seed therein, and it would be incredibly bad form to demonstrate your knowledge of all this in front of children and anyone else who might emulate you.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 07:12 AM

As you are probably aware Steve, and as in my above photos, they have berries now, and I did have a close look at one that had fallen on the park bench...but not a nibble which, just quietly, I probably would have done if I'd read your post first (and checked it in Google).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 07:34 AM

they were valuable sources of wood for the manufacture of longbows, the fact that they were in churchyards being a deterrent against the theft of the wood.

I had always heard that yew trees were in church yards because they were enclosed spaces and thus kept livestock from grazing on the poisonous leaves.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 08:11 AM

That's what my uncle told me, as in the above-linked poem, DC.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 09:11 AM

But is that a reason for planting yews rather than any other trees?

On a pedantic note, yews don't produce berries. They are conifers, and berries are found in flowering plants only. If you look closely you'll see that the red fleshy part (the aril) forms a cup-like structure around the seed but doesn't enclose it completely. Some animals eat the fleshy part and pass the seed through the gut without digesting it. I wouldn't recommend experimentation in this regard.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 11:16 AM

Yew trees were the original source of tamoxifen, that is now manufactured synthetically. Used to treat breast cancer. Not something to just nibble on.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 11:41 AM

Mrs Steve took part in a major clinical trial of tamoxifen for breast cancer some years ago, which consisted of five years' taking the drug or placebo in a double-blind trial and five years of follow-up. I don't think there's a connection between tamoxifen and yew trees. There has been success in trialling some yew extracts for cancer treatment.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 12:02 PM

Why do you think I mentioned it if I didn't know it to be true?

"Taxol® (NSC 125973)
Paclitaxel, the most well-known natural-source cancer drug in the United States, is derived from the bark of the Pacific yew tree (Taxus brevifolia) and is used in the treatment of breast, lung, and ovarian cancer, as well as Kaposi's sarcoma."


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 22 - 01:40 PM

But taxol isn't tamoxifen.

Here's the story of tamoxifen, an extract from an article by Cancer Research UK:

The story of tamoxifen starts back in 1896, when pioneering cancer surgeon Dr George Beatson found that he could extend the lives of women with breast cancer by surgically removing their ovaries – a major oestrogen source. This gave researchers the first clue that oestrogen was involved in the growth and development of breast cancer.

Over the next five decades, doctors experimented with a variety of man-made oestrogen-like chemicals (such as stilboestrol, developed by Cancer Research UK scientist Professor Charles Dodds in 1937) to try to treat breast cancer. Although sometimes these efforts were successful, the side-effects were too severe for widespread use. By the mid 60s, the research had hit a dead end.

Contraceptive research

At roughly the same time, researchers at ICI (now AstraZeneca) in the UK, were investigating the effects of various oestrogen-like chemicals on the reproductive systems of rats, with the aim of trying to find new contraceptives and cholesterol-lowering drugs.

They developed several promising drug candidates, including one with the catchy name ICI46,474. But for various reasons, including lack of support and competing priorities, its development stalled.

War on cancer

Eventually, due to a combination of luck, good judgement, a bit of trans-Atlantic to-ing and fro-ing, and the declaration of a ‘war on cancer’ by President Nixon, there was a renewed interest in developing an oestrogen-blocker to treat breast cancer.

ICI46,474 was developed into tamoxifen, and doctors started giving it to patients in the early 70s. And the drug was licensed for the treatment of advanced breast cancer in the UK in 1972.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 01:44 PM

I was told that Yew trees grow well in graveyards because the soil is so rich! I'm sure it is nonsense but it is a good story :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 02:10 PM

The autumn bright yellow leaves
are great. They grow well around schools supposedly because of all the bad boys and girls who mysteriously disappeared.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 04:28 PM

I have a lovely pair of bones made of yew. Unfortunately, I could never master them and you would miraculously close up all the seating spaces if I turned up to your session with them...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 05:32 PM

I've heard the spoons played at a folk club/festival session but not yet the bones...

Donuel - clicked your link to have a look but got an error message.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 05:44 PM

Of course you could have fun with word games

Have you seen the yew, Hugh?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 05:47 PM

Hugh: "Yes, last Sunday - just before taking a pew".


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Aug 22 - 07:01 PM

You do not hear the spoons. You endure the spoons. There was this spoons bloke who turned up to the Tree Inn session once a year with the Sealed Knot (for the reenactment of the Battle of Stamford Hill). He was the most ignorantist-ever bastard to turn up to any session (except for any bodhran owner). He was the only person in 20 years who I had to tell to bugger off out of it in no uncertain terms. Utter twattery doesn't even begin to describe his attitude...


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Aug 22 - 05:54 AM

...maybe he was born with a silver..?!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 08:45 AM

In North Wales, https://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.com/2010/08/walkaboutsverse-165-of-230.html - including photos, from a train window, of Snowdonia & the Menai Straits/"Swellies" plus, from near the station, Conwy Castle.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 08:47 AM

...the link works fine but I forget to input the title "Holyhead and Surrounds", sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 08:52 AM

No it doesn't!...try again: "Holyhead and Surrounds"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 06:31 PM

...more editing, after my couple of days away, and I've just added some "hills meeting sea" pics to my poem on "North Wales" - including Puffin Island, & Llandudno's Great Orme plus (if you look carefully) Little Orme, taken from the train between Bangor & Conwy.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Sep 22 - 03:49 PM

"Colourful Llandudno" with pics - including one of the goats now back on the Great Orme, having gone into a quieter town-centre during Covid, as you may have seen on the news.

Whether or not Punch and Judy is a tad too colourful, some of the Llandudno seagulls certainly are! Thinking I wouldn't take a pic until the end of the pier, I was eating some chips on the hoof when one of them knocked off quite a few - including most of the sauce. If accused of chipping rather than their traditional fishing, they certainly seem to do pretty well on it - big healthy looking (as well as cocky) things.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 22 - 11:44 PM

Like a diamond stuck in a goat's ass I hesitate to explore it.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 10:53 AM

Funnily enough we spent the night in the Grand Hotel, Llandudno, just over a week ago. Not been for years and forgotten how pretty it can be.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 10:54 AM

...you could follow that goat(ee) for a while, Donuel, and wait for a cleansing downpour..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 11:05 AM

Agree, Dave. I was there on 30 & 31 August. I only had their breakfast on the second morning as I was planning on a swim on the first - but, alas, was put off by the tides. And I was in the hall with the big screen both nights, sipping on a G & T.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 11:42 AM

I haven't been for many a long year, but it's a quaint old place, and Great Orme is a wonderland for field botanists. Picturesque too.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 11:59 AM

Agree Steve - only attached one to the poem but took several pics of the flora on my evening walk up the Great Orme; haven't been up the Little Orme but imagine it would be similarly enjoyable..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 22 - 12:16 PM

...by the way, a couple of years ago I had prolonged metatarsal pain in my left club-foot and would not have tried such a walk/hike...so things don't always get worse with age!!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 14 Sep 22 - 03:27 AM

Near the Grand: What's the site of the old Pier Pavilion like these days? Is it still a mess?


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Sep 22 - 05:13 AM

I think, Jon, that area now has the above-mentioned chippy, touristy shops, games hall, and a ferris wheel - as lit-up in the pic attached to the poem linked above (in reasonable nick, I'd say).


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Sep 22 - 07:31 AM

There is development at the side of the Grand - between it and the pier entrance. I think there was an hotel there before the Grand. It may have been slightly to the right of it as you are facing the front of the Grand. It is quite a deep excavation and looks like it may have been very substantial.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Sep 22 - 07:45 AM

That was the Pier Pavilion. It burnt down in 1994.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 22 - 01:14 PM

That (local) article Jon links to saying "The site has lain empty and overgrown ever since, while its future has become a controversial topic of discussion" was almost exactly a year ago (25/9/2021)..? At least some of the area shown in flames on the attached photo is definitely now (re)developed as I described above...but, behind that, on the Grand's front-entrance side as Dave describes, there may still be an area left undeveloped (which I probably framed my pics away from)..?

I've noticed quite a lot of development & refurbishment type work has taken place in England during the quiet Covid period.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Sep 22 - 01:50 PM

I'd guess that's right WAV. They've just temporarily improved the appearence from on side.

I lived in the area 1978-2001 although nearly all of that was about 3 miles out of Llandudno. We went into town the night of the fire and got stopped by the police. They let us through as we were bound for the Llandudno Folk Club but I think they were turning "sightseers" round.


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Sep 22 - 05:12 PM

Ahhhh. That's what ir was!


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Sep 22 - 03:47 AM

With great helicopter shots, I just saw on T.V. the end of the Men's Time Trial of the World Cycling Championships from Wollongong, N.S.W., and remembered a photo of me nearby at the Southern Gateway Centre, Bulli Tops - now added to my poem on "A Multicultural World of Carrying"


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Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 22 - 05:14 PM

My nephew having just visited me in Manchester for a week, I've added some pics to my song "The Mersey At Didsbury"


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