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BS: Why I dislike women's football...

punkfolkrocker 26 Jun 19 - 01:23 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jun 19 - 02:41 PM
gillymor 26 Jun 19 - 03:51 PM
Mrrzy 26 Jun 19 - 03:59 PM
Big Al Whittle 26 Jun 19 - 04:02 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jun 19 - 05:08 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 26 Jun 19 - 05:35 PM
punkfolkrocker 26 Jun 19 - 05:52 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jun 19 - 09:21 PM
olddude 26 Jun 19 - 09:39 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jun 19 - 09:42 PM
punkfolkrocker 26 Jun 19 - 10:31 PM
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Big Al Whittle 27 Jun 19 - 01:07 AM
Mr Red 27 Jun 19 - 02:05 AM
G-Force 27 Jun 19 - 04:24 AM
Vincent Jones 27 Jun 19 - 04:43 AM
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Subject: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 01:23 PM

It now means there is potentially twice as much bloody football coverage on the telly...!!!

The sport can only achieve true equality when it becomes combined into mixed men's and women's teams..
That should be the future accepted norm...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 02:41 PM

It might happen. In the meantime, in the interests of equality, you should decide which gender of footie should be allowed. Maybe by the toss of a coin...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 03:51 PM

The only time I watch soccer seems to be when the U.S. women's team is playing. While the women don't seem to be as fast and explosive as the men they do seem to play with a certain amount of finesse and judging from the U.S./Spain match the other day, no lack of physicality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 03:59 PM

France-US coming up...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 04:02 PM

Football's very popular.

I don't begrudge anyone their innocent pleasures, however I really don't agree with Gary Lineker getting paid 1.7 million of public money for what he does.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:08 PM

Michal Jackson has made billions since he popped his clogs. We call it capitalism, Al.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:35 PM

Better than women getting cauliflower ears playing rugby, but (as I said in verse here ) I'm glad netball - devised as a (largely) non-contact sport for the ladies - is making a big comeback; or table tennis - where, unlike tennis, a lady can reach a high level without getting bulging veins and muscles on her racket arm. (By the way, watching the BBC news, I just heard the Dalai Lama say that he does not mind a female successor, as long as she is good looking!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:52 PM

AS much as I am indifferent to any game played with a round ball,
I saw one of the best nasty vicious fouls for years on the news a few days ago.
Proper 'accidental' high kick aimed at the head..
For a moment it was like the thrill of real 1960s mud and blood football again...

when we won the cup... aahhh

It was a foul from a women's football match...

Well done women.. the spirit of authentic football lives on...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:21 PM

That foul was a split second in ninety minutes committed by one person out of 22. You could have tried to enjoy the other 89.9999 minutes of spirit and skill. Depends what you want, really. There's always EastEnders.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:39 PM

I love it actually and not just because the us is in the chase. The ladies have heart and passion for the game


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:42 PM

Totally totally agreed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 10:31 PM

Steve - I suppose what I want really is rugby... and sumo wrestling...

Women's rugby is coming along,
but it's a sport where the physical disparity between men and women
may be too much for mixed sex teams to be feasible...???

Though rugby teams do have positions for smaller men...

But if schools and local clubs started boys and playing together in mixed teams
right from the get go,
maybe that would sow the seeds for a next generation that takes it for granted as the norm...???
Team selection based on individual skill and enthusiasm for the sport
rather than gender...
Footballers are all round athletes, and the physical differences betwen men and women
should not be as significant as in other sports like rugby and sumo..


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 10:36 PM

Big oops... "But if schools and local clubs started boys and girls playing together"...

Nowt sexist with that omission.. just tired, bleary eyed, and careless typing at 3.30am...

btw.. the next sumo tournement starts in July..
and women's sumo does exist at local grass roots level...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 01:07 AM

Oneca again its this Brexit business.

I remember a time when a football wass a big heavy leather thing. When it got wet, which was most of the year - it would knock anyone less than fourteen stone flying. Footballers like Jack Charlton, Pete Storey, Andy Gray, billy Bremner....they did theses sliding tackles...now that WAS football - not all these dainty little foreign buggers skipping about.

And as for women, they wouldn't have survived the pie van and the hot tea, laced with nitric acid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:05 AM

It won't be long before politicians will notice their popularity and have to have a favourite women's team. Or if your are a Boris, a favourite woman..............

who you can argue with.

And a colleague who refereed women's games did tell of some of the women he had to ban. Physicality you ask? Not unknown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: G-Force
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:24 AM

My dad used to play hockey (by which I mean hockey, not ice hockey), and they used to have mixed male-and-female teams. I don't know if they still do. I don't think it would work in football (=soccer), not unless the officials could rein in some of the physicality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Vincent Jones
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:43 AM

A few years ago I took my daughter to Womad and spent so much I should have had a sponsor's marquee erected. Shortly after we went to see Man City women play Chelsea women at Staines FC's ground. Entrance couldn't have been more than a fiver (I think it was £3), and kids get in for nowt, a burger and a brew cost £2.50. And the football was of a high standard.

And if we'd have brought a ball, City's players would have signed it (OK, I knew our reserve goalkeeper, but it was a friendly atmosphere).

If you like footy (and, fair enough, it's not the superior 13-a-side code), women's football is well worth watching, and won't break the bank.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:00 AM

”I love it actually and not just because the us is in the chase. The ladies have heart and passion for the game”

I’m with Dan (and Steve).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:26 AM

As a welcome side attraction, to me anyway, U.S. captain Megan Rapinoe has got President Racist Nitwit's nose out of joint when some time ago she responded to a reporter's question that she would not go to the f______ White House in the event of a U.S. victory. Who could turn down a trip to Trump's White House for room temperature, fast-food death burgers and a photo-op with the Groper in Chief? A lot of championship teams could, it turns out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 08:58 AM

Besides the women’s legs are far better to look at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:39 PM

Not seen any yet but about to put the TV on for tonight's match. Looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 03:12 PM

Go Norway! Heh heh heh...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 03:51 PM

Just imagining what women's football would have looked like
if it had been televised back in the 1970s...


..ooer.. jiggle jiggle...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:28 PM

In the suburbs of Sydney in the 1970s, PFK (and I've heard things were similar here), all the lads were on the football pitches at one end of the park, whilst all the girls were playing netball at the other - and never the twain did meet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:33 PM

By "here" I mean England, sorry - not everyone knows I am an English repatriate, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:39 PM

English Women up 3 zip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:01 PM

Mowed the lawn, fed the plants, had 3 pints of Black Sheep and watched the England Women cruise to the semis! What could make a better evening? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:42 PM

Mowed the lawn (half a bloody acre in 27C heat and an easterly gale that snapped a huge great bough off my poplar which blocked the farm lane), watered the plants, had several glasses of Asda Negroamaro (after a bottle of Prosecco, natch) with me barbecue and watched the England women neutralise the Norway team. What could make a better evening!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:55 PM

Took the scenic room from the train, walking through a local wood, watered my pot plants, had a glass of Pale Cream, watched a programme on the Cairngorms, then one on Madagascar - got the score here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 07:17 PM

Had 2 porkchop sarnies and a mug of strong black tea,
then nodded off on the sofa while watching a time shifted recording of LuLu on The One Show...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 11:33 PM

Oops. Well played, Lionesses. Tomorrow, allez les bleues!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 01:47 AM

My half a postage stamp is definitely easier, Steve :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 02:15 AM

Having driven a 200-mile round-trip to Manchester the previous evening to be jaw-dropped by The Eagles, I was totally knackered and ready for bed by 8pm. I forced myself to stay awake to watch the game, and I’m very glad I did - brilliant stuff! Well done them lasses! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:13 AM

So then..
back to my click bait OP premise...

Rather than twice as much bloody football on the telly,
if you had to vote to choose between only men's or women's football coverage...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:19 AM

we don't have to choose. mens , womens, cross dressers, pro-celebrity strictly football on ice....it's coming home!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:34 AM

Going off last nights match I would chose Womens any day - At international level anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:56 AM

Hi

Iwatched The Lionesses take out a very good NTeam from Norway.

Both teams showed skill but England were just that little bit better.

I have been watching Woman's football for some time so I am not surprised by the standard has risen so quickly.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:01 PM

From the Radio Times next week:-
7.30pm Wednesday Women's World Cup
Coverage of the second semi final held at the Stadt de Lyon
With the group stages under way as we go to print, one of the few certainties is that England will not feature here having locked themselves into the top half of the draw by winning their group.

That's experts for you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:22 PM

Well worth £1.7 million pounds a year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: DMcG
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:25 PM

I am not a fan of football, whatever gender the players. But I recommend a project called No Petticoats here by Louise Jordan, which includes a section on women footballers during the first world war. I have copied an extract below:

===

Women Footballers
Whilst researching individual women I was drawn to the stories of women footballers such as Lily Parr, Jennie Morgan and Bella Raey. Collectively, women footballers of the Great War had a phenomenal impact on the lives of their communities and their country. When the FA suspended men’s football teams from competing in 1915 it was women who kept the sport alive. Encouraged to play during breaks by factory owners to build morale, women munitionettes’ teams organised fundraising matches. These women footballers raised thousands (millions in today’s money) for POW and soldier’s charities, only for women’s football to be banned by the FA for an incredible fifty years (1921 -1971).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:32 PM

We watched some recent news reports on that forgotten sporting history.

This really deserves a movie adaptation, or Sunday evening BBC series...

Like the one off drama about the black footballer who became a WW1 army officer...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:10 PM

U.S. Women 2 to 1 over France. Twitler's nemesis, Megan Rapinoe, scores both goals. England on Tuesday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:26 PM

That was a wonderful game of football by any standard (and I'm a Liverpool fan fer chrissake). This festival of football has done the game a power of good. I love it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:37 PM

Yep, a good defensive showing from both sides but the Americans shut 'em down in stoppage time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:01 PM

Well Done. Red White and Blue all over the arena. What colors/colours you all gonna use, Brits?;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:21 PM

Great game now I cannot wait till Tuesday. I think it will be a superb game as both are immensely talented


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:30 AM

Just knowing the back-story of England's captain would warm yer heart.

If you like the women's football game - look for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: michaelr
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:38 AM

Much less falling about and play-acting in the women's game. Far fewer actual fouls, as well. And good job to the ref for not going to VAR at all, perhaps for the first time in this tournament.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 05:18 AM

I don't dislike it any less than men's football !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: vectis
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 05:28 AM

The women's game was banned from club grounds in 1921 because it was pulling huge crowds compared to the men's game.

They tried to claim that it was because it wasn't suitable for ladies to play but, in my opinion, as an ex women's league player, it was pure jealousy on the part of the professional game.

Without proper grounds to play in women's football was relegated to the local recreation pitches and crowds dwindled. It has only really revived in the last 30 years.


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