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MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]

Stilly River Sage 06 Oct 20 - 07:07 PM
Rapparee 05 Oct 20 - 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 20 - 07:07 PM

At the risk of playing Pete and re-Pete, there's another hurricane headed for the Gulf. What do you want to bet that it has BWL's address in it's contact list for once it comes ashore?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Oct 20 - 11:44 AM

I shall make no suggestions that Mom or anyone begin doing things like
this.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 11:38 PM

MOM saw a rock painted for Halloween out in someone's front yard. Now she's back in the paint shelves looking to see what she can use. I guess if a rock will work in one yard, white washing the big trees and painting scary faces on them will be even more impressive.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 10:04 PM

Been working on my presentation on past pandemics in US. I'm not going to create the links (do some work yourself!) but the virus causing measles looks to me like Cookie Monster from Sesame Street and the one for polio like the planet in Saint-Exupery's The Little Prince.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 06:38 PM

Nephew Ted is back from Georgia (the Tblisi one) and will probably start training as a Game Warden in Wisconsin the end of this month. Whether he stays in the Marine Reserves is an open question. Soon I'll be able to hunt all over WI with impunity!


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 02:40 PM

Still on sub-lurk, here.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 11:50 PM

I most certainly do not shout, yell at, holler, or otherwise orally abuse Mom! Why, someone might get the wrong idea and believe that she doesn't like me, her Favorite (Favourite in Canada) best.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 06:33 PM

Well, MOM, if you don't want Rapparee hollering at you,
better hustle up to the top of the queue.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 09:59 PM

Did Poly leaf you to clean up the leaves?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 03:55 PM

Mom!

I have a poly leaf rake. It says so right on the sticker. I need to know if it will work for raking natural leaves, or only poly ones?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 09:54 PM

We ate dinner on the back porch/deck this evening. It was 71F and quite pleasant. Supposed to be that was the rest of the week and into next.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Sep 20 - 05:51 PM

We've had some fall-like weather this week, but it's warm again today. MOM can't decide if she needs to keep making iced tea or get out the hot pumpkin spice drinks for any visitor who spends time on the screened in porch.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 06:42 PM

The Thomas Hardy poem, "Channel Firing," was nicely set to music
by Gerard Finzi (English composer despite the name).
Right, Mom,
now upstairs before
Rapparee hollers at you again.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 10:47 PM

The Young British Soldier
by Rudyard Kipling

WHEN the 'arf-made recruity goes out to the East
'E acts like a babe an' 'e drinks like a beast,
An' 'e wonders because 'e is frequent deceased
Ere 'e's fit for to serve as a soldier.
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!

Now all you recruities what's drafted to-day,
You shut up your rag-box an' 'ark to my lay,
An' I'll sing you a soldier as far as I may:
A soldier what's fit for a soldier.
Fit, fit, fit for a soldier . . .

First mind you steer clear o' the grog-sellers' huts,
For they sell you Fixed Bay'nets that rots out your guts -
Ay, drink that 'ud eat the live steel from your butts -
An' it's bad for the young British soldier.
Bad, bad, bad for the soldier . . .

When the cholera comes - as it will past a doubt -
Keep out of the wet and don't go on the shout,
For the sickness gets in as the liquor dies out,
An' it crumples the young British soldier.
Crum-, crum-, crumples the soldier . . .

But the worst o' your foes is the sun over'ead:
You must wear your 'elmet for all that is said:
If 'e finds you uncovered 'e'll knock you down dead,
An' you'll die like a fool of a soldier.
Fool, fool, fool of a soldier . . .

If you're cast for fatigue by a sergeant unkind,
Don't grouse like a woman nor crack on nor blind;
Be handy and civil, and then you will find
That it's beer for the young British soldier.
Beer, beer, beer for the soldier . . .

Now, if you must marry, take care she is old -
A troop-sergeant's widow's the nicest I'm told,
For beauty won't help if your rations is cold,
Nor love ain't enough for a soldier.
'Nough, 'nough, 'nough for a soldier . . .

If the wife should go wrong with a comrade, be loath
To shoot when you catch 'em - you'll swing, on my oath! -
Make 'im take 'er and keep 'er: that's Hell for them both,
An' you're shut o' the curse of a soldier.
Curse, curse, curse of a soldier . . .

When first under fire an' you're wishful to duck,
Don't look nor take 'eed at the man that is struck,
Be thankful you're livin', and trust to your luck
And march to your front like a soldier.
Front, front, front like a soldier . . .

When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old bitch;
She's human as you are - you treat her as sich,
An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . .

When shakin' their bustles like ladies so fine,
The guns o' the enemy wheel into line,
Shoot low at the limbers an' don't mind the shine,
For noise never startles the soldier.
Start-, start-, startles the soldier . . .

If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 01:30 PM

Clean War
by Patricia Wellingham-Jones

    They are calling this the cleanest war in all of military history.
    --Tom Brokaw, April 2, 2003

Tell that to the ravens
plucking out eyes
on the blood-packed sand

To fathers cradling
the last of their hopes
in torn bodies

To young girls swelling
with the unwanted gifts
of swift strong soldiers

To mothers and wives
pulling on veils of grief
as they wash their dead

Inform the children
who wander dazed with thirst, alone
among ruins


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 12:48 PM

Dover Beach
By Matthew Arnold

The sea is calm tonight.
The tide is full, the moon lies fair
Upon the straits; on the French coast the light
Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand,
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.
Come to the window, sweet is the night-air!
Only, from the long line of spray
Where the sea meets the moon-blanched land,
Listen! you hear the grating roar
Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling,
At their return, up the high strand,
Begin, and cease, and then again begin,
With tremulous cadence slow, and bring
The eternal note of sadness in.

Sophocles long ago
Heard it on the Ægean, and it brought
Into his mind the turbid ebb and flow
Of human misery; we
Find also in the sound a thought,
Hearing it by this distant northern sea.

The Sea of Faith
Was once, too, at the full, and round earth’s shore
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furled.
But now I only hear
Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
Retreating, to the breath
Of the night-wind, down the vast edges drear
And naked shingles of the world.

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 12:10 PM

Dulce et Decorum Est
By Wilfred Owen

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 09:46 PM

Channel Firing
By Thomas Hardy

That night your great guns, unawares,
Shook all our coffins as we lay,
And broke the chancel window-squares,
We thought it was the Judgment-day

And sat upright. While drearisome
Arose the howl of wakened hounds:
The mouse let fall the altar-crumb,
The worms drew back into the mounds,

The glebe cow drooled. Till God called, “No;
It’s gunnery practice out at sea
Just as before you went below;
The world is as it used to be:

“All nations striving strong to make
Red war yet redder. Mad as hatters
They do no more for Christés sake
Than you who are helpless in such matters.

“That this is not the judgment-hour
For some of them’s a blessed thing,
For if it were they’d have to scour
Hell’s floor for so much threatening....

“Ha, ha. It will be warmer when
I blow the trumpet (if indeed
I ever do; for you are men,
And rest eternal sorely need).”

So down we lay again. “I wonder,
Will the world ever saner be,”
Said one, “than when He sent us under
In our indifferent century!”

And many a skeleton shook his head.
“Instead of preaching forty year,”
My neighbour Parson Thirdly said,
“I wish I had stuck to pipes and beer.”

Again the guns disturbed the hour,
Roaring their readiness to avenge,
As far inland as Stourton Tower,
And Camelot, and starlit Stonehenge.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 03:41 PM

She's getting quite a reputation at the Hovel. Nobody thought someone as frail-looking as Mom, could do the splits like that, and on top of a piano as well!


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 01:27 PM

She was out in the back yard working, taking a day off from news. A moratorium on news helps keep her attitude better when she visits down at the Legion Hovel. Then the stuff the others are complaining about is new to her and has been thoroughly digested and presented with the answers as well as the questions the news brings up. Saves time.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 20 - 09:52 PM

MOM!!! MOM!!!
You get up there!!!!! Right NOW!!!!


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:50 PM

A worm's eye view of the universe is grounding.
But only tasting and feeling sound is its world.
The mighty grasshopper can see his horizon and fly.
Each of the many worlds have their special pleasures.
The pleasure of arriving at Sirius B is reserved for X
but not man


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:18 PM

Rapparee, are you free of the grasshoppers at last?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 01:27 PM

Mr. Open: Hey Donuel you must be ecstatic about Trump's stroke and that he hasn't recovered his speech.

Donuel: Ecstatic? That means out of one's mind. No I'm not ecstatic.
I'm sad, it's a lonely end for a lonely man. In that way he truly was a common man.

Mr. Open: You hypocrite, you hated him. You never had anything good to

Donuel: I understood the mistakes he made to please his father. He was inspired by the wrong God.

Mr Open: I thought you said you were an athiest - and how could Trump be lonely, he had crowds breathing poison just to see him.

Donuel: Yes, that was some sick inspiration but thats how vulnerable and desperate people are when it comes to the power of sharing hate.
He had a hole in him he could never fill and didn't respect the knowledge that could have saved him. No I didn't respect him but I can feel sorry for him and his innocent followers.

Mr. Open: Greedy suck up innocents my ass. They were in it for the money!

Donuel: Not all of them. Look, the man is in hell now. I suggest he have a long stay.

My Open: Well amen to that.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 06:55 AM

Answer: About a 1,000 a day in the US. The stench of rotting flesh is hidden today by the use of civilized refridgerated semi trucks.

What is differnt today are the crowds of cheerleaders for the virus.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 08:11 PM

“How many valiant men, how many fair ladies, breakfast with their kinfolk and the same night supped with their ancestors in the next world! The condition of the people was pitiable to behold. They sickened by the thousands daily, and died unattended and without help. Many died in the open street, others dying in their houses, made it known by the stench of their rotting bodies. Consecrated churchyards did not suffice for the burial of the vast multitude of bodies, which were heaped by the hundreds in vast trenches, like goods in a ships hold and covered with a little earth.”
                                          -Giovanni Boccaccio


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 04:47 PM

One day Nazis, Trump and McConnel will just disappear like a miracle but virus won't die of old age.

The good ol days of the new normal aren't what they used to be.

Denying the dieing wish of an old bat is what makes it more delicious.
Trump tweet.

The AGE OF MISINFORMATION is over.
Q Anon.

Republicans agree to a 10 trillon dollar stimulus package to Wall St.

Trump's omnicience is limited only by the greatness in his own mind.
(he's a bleached hydro oxymoron)

But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of Covid. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of Covid as a little child, shall in no wise survive unscathed."


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 01:04 AM

Here comes Beta, a storm in a year where they used up the whole list of alphabetical names so now they're restarting with the Greek alphabet.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 11:39 AM

I've had more exposure to prescient lately, rather than omniscient. Mr. P would be Sinclair Lewis, whose 1935 novel It Can't Happen Here is a playbook for the GOP this year.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 10:54 AM

No, I am still great friends with the Oxymoron family and there's nobody named An. There's Bill, Theresa, Sheri, Helen, the twins Billy and Willy, and the dog Fido.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 11:56 PM

There's no such thing as limited omniscience. It's an oxymoron.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 08:52 PM

Why search for limited omniscience when I AM totally omniscient already?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 12:20 PM

An easter egg grants access to Mudcat 2 (the search for more BS).
Special features include an idiot free digital world, access to posting in the afterlife, free IP, tuition free PHD programs and limited omniscience .
The Easter egg can be found somewhere in the original (not Annex) MOAB


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 08:52 PM

Now that you have Internet you can download tons of books (and it won't amount to an ounce).

I recommend It Can't Happen Here. From 1935, this dystopian novel fits today's political situation remarkably well. Depressingly well. But it's Sinclair Lewis so it is also entertainingly well.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 08:12 PM

You lucky basterd. Good for you. Here is a gift of time you can use as you wish. https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-is-time-a-history-of-physics-biology-clocks-and-culture-20200504/


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 07:52 PM

Hi, Mom!

I survived Hurricane Sally with no major issues. No damage to person, pets, structures or autos. Lots of limbs down (though I suspect some of them may be branches in disguise). Power was only out for ten hours or so and cell/Internet was down for a day. The bridge near the south end of the road I live on is underwater, so trips to the south entail a detour north and then back south via roads with no (or higher) bridges. That's okay. I'll just stay home. Got food, water, toilet paper, two unread books, and 18 guitars. What do I need to go to town for?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 05:06 PM

I'm guilty of sedition fer sure, I'm fairly sedentary.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 10:14 AM

In other words that was a statement of approximations without a plot or story line. The languages of Physics and Econonomics are even harder.
The record for speaking entirely in acronyms is 7 minutes 42 seconds.
People complain about legalese but William Barr AG has a way of simplifying it with comments such as "ALL PROTESTORS, DEMOCRATS AND candidates who challenge DONALD TRUMP SHALL BE CHARGED WITH SEDITION."


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 09:16 AM

Here, Mom. More excitement for you!

For the classic LT, once the contagion spreads from the initial active nodes through the network, the system eventually reaches a stationary configuration if the threshold, the network structure, the diffusion parameters, and the focal nodes are fixed. In other words, the classic LT is path-independent if nodes can be repeatedly chosen, e.g., a node that is not activated at this time may be activated at one time in the future. In this model, a path-dependent process entails that the diffusion result may vary for different paths of diffusion, while a path-independent process is one for which the diffusion result is always consistent no matter the path of diffusion. Fig 2 gives an illustration of path independence in the classic LT: if the threshold T is assigned to be 0.5, then it does not matter whether we first activate node 4 or node 5; the final result is the same with active nodes 4 and 5, and inactive nodes 6, 7, 8. However, it should be noted that LT may be path-dependent if inactive nodes can be only chosen once or a limited number of times.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 09:26 PM

Oh, I love it when people talk dirty to Mom!


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 10:57 AM

Until fairly recently, myxosporeans were considered to be protists, offshoots of the eukaryotic line that are neither plants, animals nor fungi. In 1995, however, Mark Siddall, then at the Virginia Institute of Marine Science, and his colleagues argued that myxosporeans are weird members of the cnidarians, the group that includes jellyfish and corals. Since then, genetic studies have bolstered that position.

Their location on the tree of life doesn’t explain how myxosporeans ended up with such strange traits. Myxosporeans boast some of the smallest known animal genomes. The genome of Kudoa iwatai, for example, is estimated to be a mere 22.5 megabases, considerably smaller than that of any other cnidarian genome. It’s less than one-twentieth the size of the genome of Polypodium hydriforme, a closely related cnidarian parasite.

Moreover, their genomes have not just been catastrophically reduced. They specifically lack certain genes thought to be essential for multicellular life. It’s not clear how or why a complex multicellular creature discarded these seemingly necessary genes along with huge chunks of its DNA.

Yet Alexander Panchin, a senior researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences, and his colleagues have an intriguing if controversial hypothesis to explain it. Early this year, they proposed that myxosporeans initially branched off from their cnidarian kin not as independent animals but as tumors.

Evolutionary Scandals
Panchin knows the idea of cancer-derived animals sounds far-fetched — so much so that, in the paper, he and his co-authors refer to them as Scandals (an acronym for “speciated by cancer development animals”).

At first, Scandals were just a thought experiment. While Panchin was writing about transmissible cancers, he heard his colleagues express surprise at the genes for complex tissues that were turning up in certain unusual but simple parasitic animals. Further conversations led to what Panchin calls the “fantastic” idea that such simple parasites could have cancerous origins. “So we took all the data and we proposed this hypothesis,” he said.

According to Panchin’s three-step scenario, a Scandal would start off as a cancer, but not just any cancer. It would have to be transmissible, so that it wouldn’t die when its host did. Then the cancer would have to spread to other species, and then codependently evolve multicellularity. Panchin placed the Scandal tumors in sea water along with Hydro Sporodean jellfish and indeed a new species arose in the new jeuvenile immortal planulae.

In 2016 Panchin was declared missing and his lab was found in shambles. Mark Siddall said the biology world will mourn the loss of Dr. Panchin.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 10:09 AM

Bee-Dub, are you flooded?   Can I mail you a life jacket?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 10:25 PM

Busy week, Rap. I make a note in my calendar of anyplace I go on the day as my own early approach to "contact tracing" just in case it's needed. Next week I have a dentist appointment - and am probably going. I postponed it from three months ago. Hopefully it isn't into the COVID-abyss.

BWL, how's the weather forecast for your area?


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 09:58 PM

. . . and what's new, Rapparee,
about the grasshoppers?

13 Sept post. "a stick to beat on a log" ...
this is a music subject, but:

anybody remember that Filipino "Tinikling" thing
that was in three-quarter time, and
two lines of people pair up and sit on the floor,
and each pair takes a pair of bamboo sticks and
moves the sticks around on the floor, in the space between them:

tap, tap, slide-together
tap, tap, slide-together

and there is this little tune that goes with it that
somebody sings,
and everybody else
has to dance this little dance on either side of the
tapping bamboo sticks ...
without getting your foot caught when the sticks get to the
slide-together part ...

I suppose I had better use Joe Offer's well-promoted
search/filter features
and see if there is a "tinikling" thread.

In grade school when PhysEd would make us do this thing,
we had really competitive athletic kids in our class
who would flip into total high-anxiety freak-outs
over these bamboo-stick dances.
It helped if one was slightly musical, though.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 06:33 PM

And a VA doctor appt. Friday.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 06:32 PM

Medical appts today, flu shot tomorrow, dermatologist Thursday.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 11:15 AM

When I was a kid we measured rain in inches
Now rain is measured in feet
it flows down our toxic street
as a kid we rafted the creek

As a kid we trained to duck&cover
Now we can not even hide in bunker
Its to late for some who to try to breath air
Without Walter Cronkite the news isn't fair

Some things have changed
and some are the same
if ya can't love your neighbor
its really a shame.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 07:49 AM

When I was a kid people were tall
there were 5 billion people on Earth
Parents knew everything I didn't

When I was a kid it was fun to fall
To splash about or roll on the turf
Now they would call it an incident.

Now most folks are short
There's 7 billion souls
and parents are rarely right

Now it floods at the ports
some days I feel old
and friends just want to fight


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 09:18 PM

I was fortunate my NYS school had 3 highly talented teachers, The choir sang in Notre Dame, The orchestra went to State competition and
and drama used both to do a different Rogers and Hammerstien every year. We did have to cut the fantasy ballet from Carousel since it was in 9 different keys. I played cello despite nerve reatachment and french horn despite the 9 iron accident. High School was still a battleground 8^o When a graduate came back from Nam and showed us his machine gun wounds, I doubled down to become college bound.


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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 09:01 PM

Air tankers flying all afternoon and the smoke seems to be thickening. Tomorrow I see the doctor.


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