MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 22 - 05:02 PM

Irrespective of philosophical perspectives, the vast majority of physicists and astronomers have followed the evidence to its logical conclusion: the universe had a beginning; there was a Big Bang. Certainly, the James Webb Space Telescope has revealed nothing to overturn this consensus or the considerable body of evidence supporting it.
What came before was a quantum sea of potentials. Someday as space stretches out to virtual nothingness it will be a quantum sea again.
This suggests a universe capable of rebounding but not from collapse, but from expansion. Dr. Penrose (as clever as Einstein) has said
"the universe has no way to know how big or small it is".
This is a key to understanding how the size of a mustard seed can become everything. Penrose also won a Nobel Prize for showing how black holes can transmute matter energy into space energy. We are still in the dark ages of turning matter into energy.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 22 - 12:49 PM

The Big Bang is getting a bit of a re-check with the launch of the new telescope, isn't it?

With so little activity (missing Amos every day!) and the old MOAB gone I fear we have dropped way down in our numbers. This should actually show 59138 + 3195 (with this post) or 62,333 posts.

How's everything going in Idaho, Rap? Winter arriving yet? Are the golfers using their orange balls on the golf course behind the house?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 22 - 10:33 AM

A trillionth of a second or relativity at work???????????

I have for twenty years believed that the idea of inflation after the big bang was BS.

The ULTRA DENSE quantum explosion/phase change was hot but was unimaginably dense. If relativity existed from the beginning the mass/pre atoms then gravity would virtually not allow time to move just as time slows to a stop in a black hole.

The big bang doesn't need hypothetical inflation since to us it only looks like everything happened faster than possible. In reality, time was simply not moving. As things thinned out enough, time slowly started back up. Cosmological errors are common as guesswork goes but this correction is as simple as I can put it.

This is my main unorthodox premise, other things like black holes wormhole mass energy into space energy, and feeding the dark energy of space expansion is also my idea that is yet unprovable.

So if relativity existed from the start of the big bang then we don't have to make up inflation to explain the optical illusion. I am also a proponent of primordial black holes.

This is my central cosmological contribution no matter how unknown it may remain in the future. It just seems so obvious to me.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 22 - 07:27 AM

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/3684988-how-to-break-the-opec-cartel/

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 22 - 07:25 AM

Let Saudi Arabia conspire with Russia. We are poised to be able to break up the OPEC alliance by using alternative methanol fuels of higher octane but lower energy value. Yes, we would require a revamp of vehicles easily. While the Saudis play politics we can lower demand and starve their profit margin. America can save Europe from the denial of Russian oil with natural gas. Sure this plan will have many moving parts but we can cut the Saudis off at the knees, like they did to
Jamal Khashoggi. More electric cars will help as well.
Russia should have been more careful what they wished for, (Like another Trump win)

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 22 - 09:08 PM

Who knows, maybe chlorophyll on another planet around a different sun is a different color like blue or red.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 22 - 09:00 PM

I lived on Normal Avenue because it was between 12th and 14th street. I have thought that the concept of normal is ephemeral, indistinct, and illusionary. There is no normal. Look outside on a sunny day; the trees are telling the truth, but we can't see why.

Why? Because our sun is green. I mean it is really GREEN. Most of its photons are vibrating green. We do not see it due to the atmosphere, light combination, and our eye's anatomy and brain. The trees are protecting themselves from the most prevalent radiation of the sun by reflecting green.
Botanists used to say green was not a nourishing spectrum for plants but it is a lame notion. When all the spectrum of light combines we do see a white sun and not just a predominately green sun.

People would say it is normal to say the sky is blue but crazy to say the sun is green. But green it is big time, technically.

It's just not 'normal' for our eyes to tell the truth. We are blind to the vast majority of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum. We do however see more variations of the color green than any other color by far.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 22 - 10:04 AM

Nowadays
When the breathin' is wheezy
Now folks are coughin'
And the fever is high
Oh, your daddy's rich
And your ma' is good lookin'
So hush
Little baby
Don't you cry
One of these mornings
You're gonna wake up wheezing
Yes, you'll spread your wings
And you'll take to the sky
But with some vaccines
There's nothin' can harm you
Yes with Doctors and Nurses
Standing by

In the past
Oh the breathin' was easy
Now folks are coughin'
And the fever is high
Oh, your daddy's poor
And your stepmom's not adored
So hush
Little Baby
Don't you cry
One of these mornings
You're gonna wake up wheezing
Yes, you'll spread your wings
And you'll take to the sky
But with some vaccines
The big three won't harm you
If there's Doctors and Nurses
Standing by

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Oct 22 - 02:21 PM

Amos moved to Hillsborough, NC, which is near Durham. It is a straight-line distance of 138.08 miles (east northeast) from there to Camp Lejeune. Hillsborough is 545 feet above sea leval, Camp Lejeune is 33 feet above sea level. If Amos was poisoned by military water pollution it's more likely it was done when his lived in San Diego.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 22 - 07:58 AM

From 1953 through 1987, people living or working at the U.S. Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, were potentially exposed to contaminated drinking water. Contaminants including PCE (perchloroethylene), TCE (trichloroethylene), Benzene and Vinyl Chloride were found by the Federal Government to exceed the EPA’s maximum contamination levels by hundreds of times.

Exposure to these chemicals has been linked to severe illness and cancer, including:

Bladder Cancer      
Birth Defects
Kidney Cancer
Kidney Disease
Leukemia
Liver Cancer

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 22 - 07:47 AM

It may be worthwhile for the family to contact lawyers to see if proximity will qualify for the Federal relief billions. Afterall toxic spills do not stop at camp boundaries.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 22 - 09:26 PM

Uphill from LeJuene and more than a few miles inland.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 22 - 04:36 PM

Items in our warehouse 13 for 100 years: Tesla's contribution

The Galactic overlords are on their august vacation https://exonews.org/

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 22 - 03:39 PM

Rap, location, location, location and timing is everything.

I wonder, was Amos near/downstream from Camp LaJeune?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 22 - 06:17 PM

In one advanced secret technology regarding energy and propulsion there is a side effect in a small discharge misadventure of a space-time cavitation* which is not fatal but merely disorienting. We may be able to use some of these strange techs decades before we discover why they work.

WSFM (weird science and fuckin magic) is the term the CIA uses to describe the most exotic technologies that are kept secret.

Dr. Greer says "All can look and see over 5,000 non military patents that are expunged due to national security".
Be it the secret dynamic credo of the CIA or venture capitalists who want secrecy to stifle competition, we will drown together from secrecy instead of the open source strategy for advancement.

* it feels like a time jump to our brains.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Oct 22 - 05:55 PM

Unlike my cousin Jim, I was exposed to things like AO residue in the water and on dust clouds. Jim was sprayed with the stuff. I have problems but Jim is dead of ALS (other things as well). Or my friend Bob, dead of AO induced cancer. Or my little brother, dead of AO-caused heart problems. I shan’t go on.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 22 - 05:12 PM

Currently, I am taking Metlifeformin, Fukitol, and Triopinum with new adult-proof cap.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 22 - 11:26 AM

Ya know Rap, I had a CVA event in my late twenties. I heard it pop. Diabetes 2 at 60 with the typical foot neuropathy, tinnitus since my teens due to gunpowder, and PTSD from a schoolyard fight that fractured my skull. I didn't mention migraine, severed nerves etc.

These are dented fenders anyone can get!
I have never claimed a disability. If I had shrapnel from war or long-term PTSD it would be a different story.

Fighting for medical assistance is valiant! But you might be virtually trained and accustomed or addicted to 'disability status.
You are clearly doing something right. Considering the alternatives you have much to be thankful for.
How well you heal/adjust might just be a matter of genes (or the right magic foods). I might look 20 years younger than my age but that was from avoiding the sun or plain damn luck.

If agent orange had done its worst I'm betting you would not be here.
Face it buddy you are made of stronger stuff.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 22 - 09:18 PM

Service connected disabilities. I've fought long and hard to get to 80% -- Type 2 diabetes, mental stuff, peripheral neuropathy in both feet, CVA, tinnitus. They are fighting the after-effects of stroke and hypertension due to Agent Orange ("The Gift That Keeps On Giving"). You see, the VBA (Veterans Benefits Administration) doesn't talk with the VHA (Veterans Health Administration). It is said that every morning the workers in the VBA get into a huddle, they all grasp each others' hand, stand up straight and shout their warcry, "Deny! Deny! Deny Until They Die!" This finishes with a cheer and they dash off to their "DENIED!" stamps.

You see, my disabilities taken singly and added total 140 percent. But because of the way disabilities are figured I need another 40 percent. For example, if you have a leg blown off by a land mine, you're considered 40% disabled. Losing both would make you 60% disabled. I have no idea how this rating schedule was determined, but I doubt that it was done by double amputees and it's been in place for a very long time.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 22 - 08:31 PM

The 80's had the perfume called Poison that was wretched and had the insecticide oderant.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Oct 22 - 10:11 AM

Rap, what are the VA folks trying to not claim is 100%? Disability from what?

This from the Elon Musk article:

Burnt Hair will be shipped in the first quarter of 2023, and the 20,000 people who’ve bought it will have to wait till then to figure out what it smells like. If the name is any indication, anyone who’s blow dried or ironed their hair will have a fair idea. So, are we just gullible/starstruck/in love with the smell of burnt hair? Do we want to experience what Musk puts on The Boring Company website, “Just like leaning over a candle at the dinner table, but without all the hard work.” Is it really hard work to put together a candle-lit dinner and lean over it?

It seems the timing for a knockoff of his "burnt hair" scent would be now. Anyone want to brew something out behind the Legion Hovel?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 22 - 09:47 PM

A round might make a good campaign sing-along song.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 22 - 07:09 PM

Roe Roe Roe the vote
changed by the Supremes
verily verily verily verily
things are now extreme

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 22 - 08:45 AM

Song for right after Halloween....

It's getting to the point where It's no fun anymore
I am weary
Sometimes it hurts so badly I must cry out loud
We are lonely
We've been had, we are mad, we are what we are
Hate makes it har ar ar ar ard

Remember what we've said and done and felt about each other
Thats our hist'ry
Please let the past remind us of what we have become
I am not dreaming
We've been had, we are mad, we are what we are
hate makes it har ar ar ar ard
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

Tearing ourselves apart from what we held so dear
And I am crying
This does not mean we don't love each other that's forever
Yes and for always
We've been had, we are mad, we are what we are
Hate makes it hard

Something inside is telling me that Trump stole our secrets
Are you still listening?
Fear is the spear and guns are the mad man's answear
And we hate you
We've been had, we are mad, we are what we are
Trump makes it hard
And he makes it hard
And you make it hard
And we make it hard

Tuesday evening
Wednesday in the afternoon
What we had we have to lose
Thursday morning
Please be gone I'm tired of you
What we had we have to lose
Can I tell it like it is? (Help me I am worried)
We've been had we are mad we are what we are.
Hate makes it har ar ar ar ard

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 22 - 08:38 PM

Well Mom, it looks like my PT and OT at the house (not the Hovel) ends next week. Then I start a new course elsewhere. Gee, the VA is pulling out all the stops so they don't have to increase my benefits enough to make me 100%.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 22 - 07:37 AM

I get the Elon Musk joke with so many people with their hair on fire but making big money on a single joke is rare even for comedians,
burnt hair

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 22 - 07:26 AM

Hmmm. Ever since I tried to single handedly move a huge weight my back pain of a year and a half has gone away. I can feel a locus of the old area saying "i'm here" but it doesn't hurt. Perhaps I realigned something.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 22 - 01:25 PM

MOM! I'm taking my ballot to the post office. Here's hoping the butterfly effect begins with this one act.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 22 - 01:12 PM

Elon Musk is playing The Price is Strife and still hopes to control the Troll population.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Oct 22 - 04:24 PM

I learned that in an emergency I can drag 400 lbs or a third of a tree.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 22 - 10:32 AM

MOM! So much has happened since you've been gone I can't even begin to tell you!

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 22 - 10:14 AM

multiple meds. I did not expect I would compete in a weightlifting event but I can see that I have new limits and should be more cautious.
170 over 80 is higher than I like.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Oct 22 - 09:54 AM

Are you on meds for that blood pressure? That's inconvenient at the very least, but sounds a little dangerous.

We have branches fall on either side of the fence here every couple of years. It's an occasion to look at all of the trees and decide if any of them need attention before they fall.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 22 - 07:25 AM

I met my neighbor after two years. A major branch fell across the street narrowly missing my neighbor's car. When I checked later some unknown samaritan had dragged it across the street and put it in my yard. Not taking into account that the thing was nearly 400 lbs, I took it back across the street beneath the tree that had broken. I rang the bell and let the neighbor know of the situation and was greeted with "You are a complete stranger to me". I said of course that is because I am your neighbor, he demanded "What is your name"?
It was about then I had a high blood pressure event and could not catch my breath. I replied succinctly I am your neighbor and I can not deal with this branch. "I didn't put it in your yard..." Gasping, Good, I can't deal with it now. "What is your name?" ... Its Neighbor, as I went back across the street to take some aspirin and catch my breath.
So much for gentile introductions, I met the neighbor.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 22 - 06:29 PM

Pictures will be on Etsy.com next week

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 22 - 07:17 AM

Dead celebs and dead artists get the big dough. A depiction of an underwater shallow sea is not a big deal. It practically was like a jig saw puzzle. Only the medium was original.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Oct 22 - 10:26 PM

Lend it to Kim Kardashian to use in her house for a while, then try again.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Oct 22 - 06:11 PM

My opal structure was declined by Sothebys. It is only worth 10K in opals and they like 6 figures for a celebrity owned anything.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Oct 22 - 02:31 PM

Well, the class on dueling is over. Four dead, six wounded, and three deloped.   No swordfolk. If you cannot understand astrophysics you cannot be wholly human.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Oct 22 - 06:59 AM

The most comprehensive and comprehensible video on astrophysics I have seen in awhile making the complicated simple in the mind's eye

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Oct 22 - 10:21 PM

Good for you two, Mike! Happy Anniversary!

MOM is shuffling down to the Legion Hovel to buy you and anyone else a couple of rounds.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Oct 22 - 09:39 PM

Mom, as you know my last post was on my 49th wedding anniversary. We both reupped.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Oct 22 - 08:21 AM

Hi Mom! I'm glad you're awake. I completed the duels and didn't get a single scratch (or more). I don't think I'll duel anymore.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 22 - 08:48 PM

Putin is more likely to declare victory and go home, tolerating Ukranian partisans.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 22 - 08:20 PM

Here’s a cheerful song.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Sep 22 - 06:36 AM

Current Nuclear sabre rattling hasn't been mentioned till now.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Sep 22 - 07:29 AM

Fresh water

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 22 - 08:40 PM

Did you know a blue pumpkin is the icon that represents a child with a nut allergy?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Sep 22 - 05:53 PM

MOM, let's give Rapparee a break and get you back upstairs.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Sep 22 - 08:33 AM

Hi, Mom! Sorry that your fave kid hasn't been in for a couple days, but with classes (taking and preparing to give), medical stuff, the VA, and Pat coming home (she's here!) I've been too busy even to take a nap. Since I only have one thing today (the class on the Arctic) I may be able to raid the fridge more often. Remember, I like black raspberry jelly on the PB&Js!