Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Oct 19 - 01:35 PM Only time will (Musca)tell... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Oct 19 - 01:20 PM Grape expectations? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Oct 19 - 01:14 PM Muscat=Mudcat but a bit more exotic... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Oct 19 - 01:10 PM Amaretto? Committed now. Getting a quote for some Karndean LVT. The chap has been out today and said he can do it on 9mm ply and will take up any remaining staples. Bit of work to do on the concrete but I can manage that. Need to get some floor repairs done but that is mainly under where the new units will be so will not affect the new flooring. The old knees are not much better but the nurse practitioner has said it may be my hip and the chiropractor thinks it is nerve/tissue related rather than the joint. I tend to agree more with the latter. Sort of feels like that anyway. It's all go at Gnome Towers. Should be ready before the next influx of Muscat visitors in the spring :-D |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Oct 19 - 12:52 PM Blum blum blum blee blo blo Amo amas amat amamus amatis amatriciana |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 23 Oct 19 - 12:23 PM vide, vice, vine you do it your way, I prefer mine! And there is always Amo, amas, amamus, amattitagian .................. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 22 Oct 19 - 02:36 PM Vine, vide, vice? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 22 Oct 19 - 02:31 PM vice versa |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Oct 19 - 10:22 AM That's a "vise" grip, Charley. What kind of vice to you grip with your tool? ;-) Hahaha! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 20 Oct 19 - 05:22 AM Did the wife tell you to "get a grip"? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Oct 19 - 10:45 AM Thanks Charlie. They are nearly all up now thanks to the mole grips though. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Oct 19 - 10:20 AM Punkfolkrocker has it right. Order a "staple remover," a very small version of the basic pry-bar with two sharp prongs. It's strong and sharp enough to hammer in under the staple and pry it up with a minimum of damage. Artists who staple canvas to their stretchers use this tool all the time. You may even be able to pick one up at an art supply store rather than a regular hardware store. If the staple breaks, which some do, I usually have to dig around it with a small chisel and extract it with a needle-nose vice-grips. Sometimes I just take a grinder and grind the sucker flat. Sometimes I just cuss at it. Cheerily, Charlie Ipcar |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: punkfolkrocker Date: 17 Oct 19 - 10:05 AM Primary school lino cutting was a blood bath of sliced fingers.. I'd expect it's no longer on the school curriculum...??? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 17 Oct 19 - 03:48 AM I used to have an Adana printing press, lead type and all. They used to sell mounted lino at about the right height. Using fine emery paper and a good flat surface you could get the lino surface super flat. Then using miniature woodcutting tools (not lino-cut tools) and a steady hand, carve fine & delicate lines. I carved the impressions of church brasses, used them to make Christmas cards for years. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: BobL Date: 17 Oct 19 - 02:55 AM Anyone else remember making linocut prints in school art classes? The stuff appears to be still available BTW, you can find it on e-Bay. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 16 Oct 19 - 01:30 PM Linoleum was a good firestarter. So I guess it doesn't pass the safety regs any more. And there used to be a News Reporter on local BBC midlands (Radio & TV) called Lyndsay Doyle. Not sure it was real or pseudonym. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: EBarnacle Date: 16 Oct 19 - 12:15 PM As a kid, my parents took me on a vacation trip. One of the stops was a factory that made linoleum. Primary ingredient was linseed oil. [Hence the "lin" part of the name.] A few years ago, I was restoring a wooden teacher's desk and needed linoleum for the top surface. No longer available. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Gervase Date: 16 Oct 19 - 06:47 AM Done this many, many times; small screwdriver and carpenter's pincers are the best bet - use a piece of ply or thin metal under the pincers as you rock them to avoid scarring the wood if you want it to be sanded and polished. If you're going to cover the floor, don't bother with the shield. A foam kneeling mat is essential, otherwise your knees will grumble after only a few minutes. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Steve Shaw Date: 16 Oct 19 - 05:49 AM Up his sleevies? (I haven't heard that one...just a guess...) |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 16 Oct 19 - 05:23 AM LOL And where did Napoleon keep his armies......................? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: BobL Date: 16 Oct 19 - 03:55 AM STEVE!! CORNER!!! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Oct 19 - 05:54 PM Q. What do you get if you throw a hand grenade into a Frenchman's kitchen? A. Linoleum blown apart... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: theleveller Date: 15 Oct 19 - 05:40 PM A curse on anyone who leaves nails in old wood. Just look what you've done to the freshly- honed edge of my beautiful fifty quid roughing gouge when it hit one in a piece of old oak fence post I was turning. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Oct 19 - 01:18 PM Lino? LINO!!! Bloody luxury. We had to cover our floors wi' chewed up newspaper and spread lard on it to mek it watterteet... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: punkfolkrocker Date: 15 Oct 19 - 12:46 PM What happened to lino then...??? When I was a kid, my mum was over the moon when dad could afford a few rolls of lino for the house... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Oct 19 - 12:12 PM That's pretty much bit the nail on the head. Coming along nicely thanks Leeneia. Been looking at New flooring today. Looks like there is a very nice laminate with inbuilt underlay that will do the trick. Saw some Karndean but the shop only did the glue down variety that will not do for our uneven floor. T |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Rapparee Date: 15 Oct 19 - 09:32 AM I saw that coming and I'll try to square it later. I'll rip right into it! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: EBarnacle Date: 14 Oct 19 - 09:43 PM Rap, get your coat, take a nice walk until you find a bucket full of ice, then place your face in it. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Rapparee Date: 14 Oct 19 - 07:33 PM Of kerf, it's plane that drilling this home would go against the grain, so just brace up a bit and claw around! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 14 Oct 19 - 03:56 AM Dare I saw this is a flawed project............... I am outathadoor already! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Rapparee Date: 13 Oct 19 - 08:38 PM Another way is to burn the wood to ash and sieve out the nails. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: leeneia Date: 13 Oct 19 - 03:45 PM Hi, Dave. So I guess your project is coming along. Keep us posted on your progress. In America we call mole grips 'vise grips.' |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Gurney Date: 12 Oct 19 - 12:47 AM Thanks, DaveRo. They were always Mole Grips when I was growing up in England. They also called all vacuum cleaners 'Hoovers.' |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: DaveRo Date: 11 Oct 19 - 04:41 PM A brief history of mole grips The Mole name is now owned by Stanley Tools. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Oct 19 - 10:45 AM The multi-cutting tool does too but leaves marks on the boards. Not that it matters! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Oct 19 - 10:19 AM Moleys certainly do the trick Gurney. Thank you. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Gurney Date: 10 Oct 19 - 03:50 PM Mole Grips, Vice Grips, locking pliers, all the same tool, the first two are brand names. They last a lifetime. You only need them occasionally, but when you do, nothing else will do the job. Dave, how have you managed to do without them for so long? I just did a mental count. I have seven. Two standard, one slip-jawed, three tiny ones, and a small long-nosed. But then, I've made my living in both engineering and building maintenance. When pincers are very new, they will cut the legs off staples, leaving two needles sticking up. They work, but they are meant for pulling small nails, not skinny staples. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Oct 19 - 03:07 PM Makes a change from giving them a rest :-) The heavy duty staple remover bent at first attempt :-( Pincers work and for the stubborn ones, a bit knocking stick! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Raggytash Date: 10 Oct 19 - 02:58 PM Ye Gods, your knees must be really bad if you have to text them!! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Oct 19 - 02:38 AM The floor is not really good enough for that, Raggy. If I wanted a sanded floor I would replace the old boards with T&G anyway. But I am going to pull them out anyway! I have a staple puller arriving today - thanks EB but I beat you to it by about 4 hours :-) I'll probably give the old knees a text and start tomorrow now |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Raggytash Date: 09 Oct 19 - 06:02 PM There is only ONE answer Dave, you have to remove them, one and all. If you give yourself a square metre to do at a time. I'm sure you will do more than that but if you don't you will only make it much harder for the next poor sod who wants to replace the same floor and sand the existing boards at some point. There are no short cuts! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Bill D Date: 09 Oct 19 - 05:30 PM Gurney is right about locking pliers... others are right about a(thin) screwdriver to loosen them. "Molegrips" seems to be a UK word for a brand of locking pliers. Certain types have a rounded back that one can brace on the floor after getting a grip and rocked backwards for leverage. If any break, they CAN be hammered in/down. I wish I'd seen this earlier... I'd have posted some pics in Dropbox. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Donuel Date: 09 Oct 19 - 04:12 PM google? I just use a small pry bar and locking plyers for the stubborn remnants. Gillymor you should sell your alternative tools or at least publish |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: EBarnacle Date: 09 Oct 19 - 03:35 PM IIf it's not too late, just enter heavy duty staple remover into your search engine. The information is right there. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Oct 19 - 11:54 AM Got my garden kneeler, carpenters pincers, multi-tool and cutters. Going to have a go tomorrow. Further to the saga, part of the kitchen used to be a scullery and in that section, the floor is concrete. For some inexplicable reason, the plywood was fastened down there with plugs and screws every 3 inches or so. The screw heads just ripped through the plywood of course and as they had had tile cement on them the slots were not available to unscrew them. They did, fortunately, pull out, plug and all, quite easily with the aid of a hefty claw hammer:-)I Annoyingly, if they had used screws to fasten the plywood down in such a way everywhere, the plywood would not have flexed, the tiles would not have cracked and we would not now be renewing the floor covering. Ah well. C'est la vie as they say in Cleckheaton... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: punkfolkrocker Date: 09 Oct 19 - 08:30 AM My memory is clear enough right now to state the bleedin' obvious... I now remember many years ago I bought a staple remover from WH Smiths.. [or it could have been Staples.. before they were removed from the trading estate...] Googling staple extractors or staple removers results in various sharp grabby grippy looking tools... |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Mr Red Date: 09 Oct 19 - 04:50 AM I like the wheeze of the flat metal, (old knife?). Cut a bean can and unroll, or why not the aluminium top. All it will do is make less of a mess of the wood, which if you are covering it again - who cares? If you have to hammer them flat use the screwdriver as a punch (drift?) and place over the bit that you can sit the screwdriver on and hammer the other end. I also would use a (substantial) upside-down nail with a flat head because the head can cover the thin stub that can't be gripped and the nail head has more "pounds per square inch" than a hammer, less than screwdriver but won't slip off the spike. Hold with those pliers if necessary. Good luck with your staple diet........... hope you nail it .............. I'll get my Swish Army Knife (I use the pliers attachment on the Ceilidh floor staples at folk festivals, I am known for it). |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Ebbie Date: 09 Oct 19 - 01:55 AM Oh my. Does this ever take me back. I used to manage a number of residences. In one, I needed to replace the carpeting in two bedrooms. OK, no problem. I sliced the carpets to pieces and pulled them up. However. Under both of them were beautiful parquet floors. And. The carpeting had been put down with a thousand staples. Back then, my knees were still in pretty good shape but it was beyond a tedious job. Over a period of three days I learned to do it yard by yard - I surrounded myself with pried up ends then went back and painstakingly pulled them up. It was slow going but there was a feeling of accomplishment as, little by little, I cleared the land. Nowadays, I'd hire some young sprats. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Oct 19 - 07:54 PM Can't you find some animal or other that's on a staple diet, Dave? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Getting nails out of old wood From: Doug Chadwick Date: 08 Oct 19 - 07:23 PM Now, do I risk spending half a day on my arthritic knees to pull them up? Do you have children/grandchildren who are up to the job? If so, you could play the age card by dropping hints about how tiring it is shopping for all those Christmas presents that you MIGHT be buying. DC |
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