Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)

Subject: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1936)
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 11 Nov 19 - 08:21 AM

Possibly the best part of the Katharine Hepburn epic, "Mary of Scotland" (1936) comes when Fredric March, as Bothwell, leads a parade of pipers and drummers into Edinburgh Castle.

They're playing a splendid march that I can't identify.

A piping website claims it's "Blue Bonnets over the Border," but it sound nothing like that tune.

Somebody must remember the scene and the tune. (Unfortunately, the scene is no longer on YouTube.)

What could it be?

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Nov 19 - 03:10 PM

Mary introduced a law that imposed the death penalty for anyone drumming in street parades. In any event, bagpipes and drums didn't play together until the 18th century, and not as regular army bands until the Crimean War.

File this one along with the film of Macbeth that has a shot with somebody in the background using a motor mower.

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Lighter
Date: 11 Nov 19 - 04:13 PM

Yes, Jack, but the tune is still great.

The first couple of bars are much like the opening of "The Leaving of Liverpool" [!]

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 02:18 AM

The whole movie is online - see below. Roughly where about in the film is the scene?

https://ok.ru/video/261637212835

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Lighter
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 06:44 AM

Good find, Allan!

It starts at 1:30.

Actually, Bothwell is leaving, not entering

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: GUEST,Kenny
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 11:09 AM

"Lord Lovat's Lament".

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Lighter
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 11:13 AM

That's it, Kenny. Thanks!

https://tunearch.org/wiki/Lord_Lovat%27s_Lament

Subject: RE: Tune in 'Mary of Scotland' (1937)
From: Lighter
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 11:50 AM

Simon ("The Fox") Fraser, Lord Lovat, was beheaded at Tower Hill in 1747 for his participation in the 1745 rebellion.

Evidently the tune was not printed (at least under that name) until ca1840.