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The Sandman 17 Nov 19 - 04:02 AM
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punkfolkrocker 17 Nov 19 - 11:52 AM
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Subject: Harry Cox research
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 04:01 AM

Any information about this trad singer would be appreciated


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 04:02 AM

Did Walter Pardon ever come across Harry or any of his recordings, was there any interaction between them


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 04:13 AM

No Dick, they never met, though Walter admired both Harry and Sam, none of them ever met
There is a film of Sam and Harry. 'The Singer and the Song, but they were filed separately
I have a fair amount on Harry which I'm happy to put up - if I survive on this forum, which is in the balance at present
Thanks for starting this
Jim


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 04:25 AM

Google


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 04:44 AM

Many links to information and recordings on Mudcat PermaThread: Free On-Line Trad Folk Performances /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=166144#top
54 Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PdLn7mCj8&list=OLAK5uy_lTrPYTjXCXGC5uM02fYuLiMwuT9XTdJZ8&index=1

1. You Must Get the Tune First...
2. The Female Drummer
3. People What Don't Like to Hear an Old Song...
4. Two Jolly Brothers
5. Polka
6. When I Sing a Song My Mind Is on It...
7. Bold Archer
8. There's Bound to Be a Row
9. Betsy the Servant Maid
10. Firelock Stile
11. The Green Mossy Banks of the Lee
12. The Pretty Ploughboy
13. The Watercress Girl
14. A Week's Matrimon
15. The Black Velvet Band
16. A Hornpipe (Fiddle)
17. The Maid of Australia
18. Alone, Alone in London
19. Miss Doxy
20. The Bonny Labouring Boy
21. The Good Luck Ship
22. The Fowler
23. In Scarborough Fair Town
24. I Had an Old Hos
25. The Green Bed
26. A Jig
27. The Bold Drover
28. Georgie
29. A Schottische
30. Black-hearted Gypsies O
31. The Rigs of the Times
32. The Grand Hotel
33. The Transports
34. Where the Shamrocks Gro
35. Barton Broad Ditty
36. Adieu to Old England
37. Bold Fisherma
38. A Polka
39. Ekefield Town
40. A Happy Family
41. Old Joe, the Boat Is Going Over
42. Blackberry Fold
43. They Told Me in the Gaol
44. The Fowler

4 recordings from the Alan Lomax Archive http://research.culturalequity.org/get-audio-ix.do?ix=recording&id=10286&idType=sessionId&sortBy=abc 7 recordings & 7 PHOTOS in
INFORMATION https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Cox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqsqnKpwEo


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 11:52 AM

Dick - Thanks.. ideally, these kinds of information resource, and rational objective analysis threads,
dedicated to key folk music individuals,
should become a welcome addition to mudcat.

Mudcatters, with their combined wealth of experience and knowledge,
should be capable of making these threads far more informative and reliable than wiki...

Harry is now another name on my list to listen to and find out more about...

cheers...

I believe I knew more about trad folk in my late teens than I can remember now...???
So that's why I'd find more of this sort of thread helpful.
Handy 'one-stop' trustworthy revision notes, when spare time is limited,
and deep fake information abounds...


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 01:38 PM

Looks like Geoff Lawes has found free access to Harry Cox's double CD on Topic ~ I have the CDs ~ The Bonny Labouring Boy ~ it has a booklet of the words also

Tony Engle and Paul Marsh production

Ray


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: BruceL
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 02:10 PM

Hi Sandman
I am close to completing my joint biography of Harry and Sam Larner, to be published by Equinox in early 2021. I have a lot of info on Harry so if you have any specific queries I'm happy to answer them if I can [Jim Carroll, among many others, has been very helpful in my research].
You can find recordings of Harry in conversation with Alan Lomax at http://www.culturalequity.org/ As far as Harry's commercial recordings are concerned, Spotify has Bonny Labouring Boy and What Will Become of England - both include Harry talking as well as singing [and occasionally playing]. The Singer and the Song is on YouTube - definitely a good place to start.
Cheers
Bruce


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 02:36 PM

I was pleased to be able to supply Paul Marsh with some of our archive recordings for 'Bonny Labouring Boy'
Bob Thomson and his wife spent quite a bit of time with him shortly before he died we have Ewan's and Alan Lomax's recordings here
I'll be happy to link people to more of it if they're interested

I haven't been able to visit this thread today (odd day, to say the least)
Back tomorrow when the world stops spinning (part one of a fascinating sounding series on how Irish songs played a part in the War of Independence starts on Irish Tele tonight - and 'War of the Worlds' and the iffy 'Dark Materials')
Life's just one big long slog - innit ?
Jim


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: BruceL
Date: 17 Nov 19 - 03:17 PM

I heard recently that Johnny Moynihan and Anne Briggs visited Harry a couple of Sunday afternoons and sang/played with him in his home. Sadly, no-one seems to have taped the occasions.


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Nov 19 - 03:19 AM

I think the last person to record Harry was Sheila Park - she kindly let us have the tape
Bob and Grace Thomson did two mighty sessions with hi at The Windmill and got some stunning stuff - three versions of 'The Outlandish Knight included
We have those too
Jim


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Subject: RE: Harry Cox research
From: GUEST,Pseudonymous
Date: 18 Nov 19 - 09:09 AM

A JSTOR search threw up a number of hits eg.

1 Journal of the English Folk Dance and Song Society
Vol. 8, No. 3 (Dec., 1958), pp. 142-155 (14 pages)

2 Folk Music Journal, Vol. 2, No. 3 (1972), p. 241

3 Folk Music Journal, Vol. 8, No. 5 (2005), pp. 569-593

A lot of this dated now. Would people use the term 'miscegenation' in reference to Maid of Australia? I for one hope not.

All this and more available free on JSTOR. You just have to register.


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