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Dave the Gnome 29 Dec 19 - 01:07 PM
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Backwoodsman 25 Jan 20 - 05:38 AM
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Subject: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Dec 19 - 01:07 PM

Someone close to us had to have their pet out down today. I know from experience how traumatic it can be to sit with a loved animal as it is given the injection. You know it is the right thing to do and it will end the suffering but it still hurts. Even though this was not my pet it brought back memories and tears. Our pets, no matter how big or small, become part of us.

To anyone suffering the same loss, you are not alone. Others can help. Talk to someone. I am here as are plenty on Mudcat. Share your feelings and, while it will not take the pain away, it may lessen it.

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 29 Dec 19 - 04:27 PM

Ah Dave, thank you for this thread. We're still very sad about having Smokey put to sleep. It was indeed the right thing to do, but so distressing to sit beside him while he passed peacefully away.

It's so true that expressing the sadness can help. But most of the people we know would think it silly to cry over a cat (including one of my closest friends, who has just lost her dear mother!). Having had Smokey for eighteen years, amid a host of other cats too, it was awful to have to say a final farewell. The house seems to be empty and silent. No cats left now...
I find myself choking back the tears when Christmas music is playing in a supermarket for instance. And sitting here on the sofa where he used to pat my face every few minutes with a loving paw is terribly hard.
I expect time will heal. My husband has shed tears too, but we'll try to be brave and get through this somehow.

Thank you again for this thread. It helps to share the feelings!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Helen
Date: 29 Dec 19 - 04:39 PM

Our household feline population has been reduced by 50% in the last 18 months. We now ONLY have three cats left. The great aunt, the grandmother and the mother of the youngest two were sent over the rainbow bridge in June 2018, April and July 2019 respectively. The grandmother was 16 years old and the most gentle soul - feline or human - I have ever met. The uncle of the youngest two is now 15 and the youngest two are 14 so we appreciate the time we have with them.

It's not the same without them around the house.

I have done the maths and at our age if we got another kitten and they lived as long as the others we would be in our early 80's and I don't think we would be fit enough to look after them, but I have thought of the possibility of adopting an older cat whose previous owner may be gone. That might work. Most older cats are not attractive enough as an adoption prospect compared with cute little kittens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 12:36 AM

I had to euthanized my old pitbull in late 2017 as cancer reduced her quality of life to where she was never happy. In May of this year my other really old dog, a catahoula/blue heeler mix, was failing but seemed to be in no pain and was happy, and she died in her sleep at home in her favorite spot. Both deaths were expected yet painful to us, and props to Poppy for doing it her own way. I still have a really old dog and so far he's as healthy as ever, and he has two much younger companions I've adopted in the last year and a half - they run him ragged with good exercise.

I waited six months after losing Cinnamon before adopting Pepper to join Poppy and Zeke, and waited four months after losing Poppy before adopting Cookie to join Pepper and Zeke. Three seems to be a good number and I like the staggered ages; when it was two same-aged old dogs they weren't very energetic. I now have a puppy (~1), a 5-year-old, and a 13-year-old. The original pitbull was really smart, and over time figured out how to kill shunks without getting skunked, and taught that to the others as well. I don't need any dogs killing skunks, but since the late Poppy and now Zeke also learned how to not get skunked, I hope that has been passed down to the younger dogs. Knock wood - so far, no skunks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 09:08 AM

They are so smart too


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 06:35 PM

My stories of affection and loss,
with cats and dogs, appear on other threads,
and would be redundant here.

They are childhood stories from my upbringing.
They probably account largely for the fact
that my adult life has been pet-free,
because I don't want to grieve like that again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 06:40 PM

Go for a pet, Keberoxu. I know grieving is hard but the love that goes before it is 10 times better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 07:21 PM

Always very sad, so sorry to hear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 06:48 PM

ah, Helen, all those cats under one roof ?
but yes, I'm sorry for your loss -- those attachments are tender ones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: rich-joy
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 07:42 PM

It's been 6 weeks since my beautiful Hector Lysander, feline extraordinaire, had to be vet-assisted to return to Source, and I miss him and his commanding yet loving Presence, more than I can say.

Hopefully, sometime this year Hecky will send another Companion for me - "just like him"!!

R-J :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 08:15 PM

Well Mrs Steve and I have been cat people for donkeys' years. We had a cat called Pud when we lived in a fifth floor flat in Robin Hood Gardens in Poplar in the seventies. We moved to lousy Loughton in 1978 and Pud was king of the castle there for years. He came with us to Cornwall and lived until 1990. We've had a good few other cats since, the greatest of all being Toots, a bloody tortie maniac of a cat who loved me to bits, who hated all other cats and who enjoyed a cheese and piccalilli sandwich. Toots and I actually appeared together in the Guardian mag in 2002 in a column called That's My Pet. I can prove it. I wouldn't mind betting you could find that...We also had Fig and Mousse through the noughties. I won't dwell. In 2010 we acquired Monty, a bit of a rescue cat, who was as loving as you could have wished, even though we'd acquired him as a wrecked adult. We seem to be dead good with cats. Monty died prematurely in 2013 ( in my arms: don't ask...) and we decided to not have any more cats after that, as we wanted to do lots more holidays away in our dotages... there'll be a next time...

But no dogs. Horrid bloody things.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 08:19 PM

but Steve, what about the little feral who stayed the winter? recently?


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 08:24 PM

We haven't seen that one for about two years now. It wouldn't come anywhere near us. So who knows...


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 05:38 AM

At the behest of my first wife, we had cats, two at a time, for twenty-five years or so. Hateful, dirty little bastards who sprayed on my cooker-hob, pissed on my kitchen floor, and shat in my borders and buried it for me to get all over my hands much later. They caught and ate birds and mice, and vomited their remains anywhere they chose - frequently on our hearth-rug while we were out.

My second wife and I have had a dog for the past eight years, since I retired. He will only piss in one spot outside, and leaves his shit in plain sight for me to remove without getting it all over my hands. He doesn’t kill things, or eat them, and therefore doesn’t vomit their remains in the house.

He’s a wonderful companion for me during the day, and we walk miles together (being younger than me, my wife works full time, and will continue to for a good number of years), and he’s demonstrated to me the futility and pointlessness of cats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 06:36 AM

But he makes your house smell of dog. I've never been to a house with a dog that doesn't smell of dog. And almost all dog owners seem to think that you won't mind if their unhygienic animal wants to make physical contact with you.

The most entertaining cat incident I ever saw was one evening when we were being wined and dined at the house of friends of ours. The host had set the table with the starters in place, prawn cocktails. We were in another part of the room having a drink when, to my horror, I saw their cat, back feet on the chair, front feet on the table, licking one of the prawn cocktails. No-one else saw it. Well I made a decision that has plagued my conscience ever since. I decided to say nothing - unless either Mrs Steve or I ended up with the tainted prawn cocktail. It didn't happen, and the host devoured the licked grub with relish. Had I said something at the time it might have spoiled the evening. Had I or Mrs Steve ended up with the licked food I'd calculated that I could have confected a story that my food looked licked. I felt terrible about letting the chap eat what I wouldn't have touched with a ten-foot bargepole. Still do, 35 years later, when I think of it. Damn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 08:39 AM

But my dog doesn’t jump up on the kitchen worktops, and lick his arse where food is prepared. And he doesn’t jump up at the table or on the furniture because, unlike a cat, you can train a dog not to do that kind of thing, exactly as you can train them not to urinate or defecate indoors.

I really don’t know why you keep rabitting on about ‘unhygienic’ dogs - cats are ‘unhygienic’ too. One of the spawn of Satan that my first wife and I had was in the habit of attacking anyone who attempted to pet it, including me on a number of occasions. One time, the little bastard got teeth and claws in the back of my hand, and wouldn’t let go - the result being a large gash, the scar of which is still visible over thirty years later. Living next door to our local hospital, i nipped across to A & E, and the nurse cleaned and (wrongly, it turned out) stitched it. A week later, my hand had swelled like a balloon and hurt like hell, so I went back to A & E and saw a doctor, who said that cat bites should never be stitched because cats mouths are filthy and incredibly germ-laden and, no matter how much the wound is cleaned, there will still be germs in there, and stitching just seals them in and allows them to go crazy.

And don’t get me started about those bloody disgusting litter-trays cat-lovers seem to think are OK to have by the back door to make visitors feel bilious...


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 07:21 PM

I like both felines and canines. My brother's family had a cat for its whole life. When young it allowed his children to tug and pull on all parts of his anatomy. Only when they and he were older did he put up graduated resistance. He would only drink from running water. Once when I was in charge of him I was instructed to take him to the vet. I put him in his fabric carrier and duly drove over there. He was clearly not happy about what was a spooky environment for him, but he responded with an alert, totally self controlled air of alert concern, quite different from panic (and he proved to be okay). I visited his grave last Summer.

I have friends with an elderly black Lab. She can only be understood as sage. She understands that her owners aren't powerful enough to control her and she patiently waits for them to put her leash on for the walks around frozen parks where people are roaring by in large pickups. She loves the snow and the only out of control thing from her owner's point of view is her ingestion of dried grass when she can find it. And she duly returns it to them the next day, right on the carpet.

I watched a video of a frog with a bunch of tadpoles wriggling around in a drying puddle. The frog used its powerful rear legs to drive a channel through the mud to get them to running water. You can't tell me that frog didn't 'know' what it was doing. There's a lot of intelligence out there, in myriad forms.

Forgive me. I just read "The Soul of an Octopus".


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 08:42 PM

Flippin' 'eck, John, and dogs' gobs are that much cleaner? The average cur thinks nothing of sniffing and licking other dogs' arses as well as its own! We had cats for almost forty years, and no cat of ours would ever DARE jump up on a kitchen worktop, or even go upstairs. Why, we always trained our cats to never jump up on to our furniture, and they never did do. The vast majority of dog owners haven't a clue as to how to control their mutts. They have those silly extendable leads that trip the rest of us up and block twenty-foot wide pavements, and they pick up the shit (leaving a smeared, contaminated pavement, of course) only when they think someone has seen their dog shitting. They have those stupid ball-throwers, handling the salivered ball with gay abandon before nipping into Sainsbury's, hands unwashed of course, to contaminate trolley handles and cash for the rest of us. Jail would be too good for the average entitled dog owner...


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 09:28 PM

robomatic, a decade or so ago I saw two TV documentaries about how clever the octopus is. The shows were on two different networks within a few days of each other. I was very impressed.

The clever frog story is good, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 04:02 AM

I expect I'll get a shedload of acid responses, but I honestly think that we benefit from being exposed to a certain amount of 'germs'. I think they stimulate our immune systems a treat, and make us strong.
If we lived in a sterile bubble all the time, we'd become extremely vulnerable to any and every bug if we ever emerged.
Obviously, one has to be hygienic with food preparation etc. But this modern obsession with disinfectant 'wipes' and sterilising every single surface, item and floor is a bit mad in my opinion. It merely generates money for those companies that sell the stuff.
In case anyone thinks I'm a perfect slut, our home is clean and tidy, but not sterile!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:22 AM

I agree with you Sen. I’m convinced that over-sterilisation in the home is a partial cause of the seemingly-lowered resistance to infection amongst our populations today,

And I like both dogs and cats - I like all animals, some more than others, but all of them nonetheless. What I don’t like - really, seriously don’t like - is a cynophobe transferring his irrational, childish fear on to the subjects of his phobia, who are unable to speak and defend themselves, and using his affliction as an excuse to insult those of us who are good, responsible dog-owners.

I particularly object to the standard insults he attaches to all dog-owners, that they can’t control their animals and they don’t clean their shit up. I’m a dog-owner, his insults apply to me. For everyone’s information, my dog was taken to training classes every week for his first two years, he’s obedient, does as he’s instructed, walks quietly to heel, and can be allowed off the lead in appropriate places with no problems. And I pick up his shit EVERY TIME - even when we’re out in the fields, even when nobody else is around.

Every time he starts his drivelling anti-canine nonsense, and his insults, he’ll get it back from me with interest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:41 AM

What I don't like is the current ludicrous use of "woke" by trendy idiots.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:44 AM

In your red haze you didn't spot that I referred to the vast majority, not every single one. If you actually go around with your eyes open you'll see that you are the rare exception if your dog walks obediently to heel. There's a section of secluded footpath near Bude Canal that is known to the locals as dogshit alley. As for exposure to germs, sure. But I don't want you to get to choose my germs for me, thanks. And I'd rather they didn't include salmonella on supermarket trolly handles...


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 07:10 AM

The vast majority of we dog owners carry poo bags. One advantage of a greyhound's racing training (there are very few) is that they always walk to heel. Also they are never, ever allowed to run off lead except in an enclosed dog field.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 07:28 AM

I've lived in a good few parts of the country but I have never seen a dedicated enclosed dog field.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 07:32 AM

We have one 10 minutes drive from our home on a farm, yet to be tried. We are going here again for our holiday with greyhound!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 07:47 AM

Well my dog doesn’t go around shitting in other people’s gardens, and spewing up the remains of small furry creatures on other people’s doorsteps, the way cats do on mine. He doesn’t lick his arse and then lick human food on the table, or piss on the cooker hob or worktop. Funny how cats doing precisely that doesn’t seem to bother Steve the Cynophobe.

And if he cared to check the dog-shit bins that are on most streets in my area, he’d notice how full they get - full enough to require the council to empty them twice a week. Hey, maybe the shit bags itself, and the bags jump into the bins because, according to our resident cynaphobe, ‘the vast majority’ don’t clean up after their dogs, although, as there’s no evidence of people cleaning up because...well...the evidence has been picked up and binned, there’s no way he could know that. No shit, Sherlock - it’s your phobia fucking with your power of logical thought.

Give it a rest Steve, you’re beginning to look very silly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 08:23 AM

Beginning - and for your next joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 08:24 AM

They jump up into the trees and bushes round here, dangling like vile little scrota...

None of our cats ever did anything like that. There are no gardens within half a mile of mine so no cat of mine has contaminated any garden around here bar mine. We can all polish our personal haloes but the appalling evidence of dog pollution is all around us. Come to Bude but bring a change of shoes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 08:38 AM

Move away from Bude then if it's that bad!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 09:02 AM

Any evidence that would stand up in a court that ‘the vast majority’ of dog-owners don’t clean up after their dogs, Steve? Thought not.

Anything to say about the disgraceful, disgusting example of the cat owner who watched someone else’s cat jump up on a table and lick human food, then let a person eat it without warning them? Wonder why not?

And you have the brass neck to accuse dogs and dog-owners of being dirty and anti-social! Jesus fucking wept.

End of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 09:52 AM

Bude's lovely though, Bonzo. It's just the bits that the dog walkers use where you have to be careful, along the canal and round the Marshes nature reserve on the multi-user trails. They're also the best places to get my mum out on her mobility scooter. You can't easily steer round the dogshit on one of those, so I have to do a clean-up job every time I dismantle it to put it back in my car. You think that's fair? Dogs and their irresponsible owners don't have to face the consequences of their actions, but the rest of us, well, we just have to put up with it, right? As we pay the council tax which pays to clear up the mess and empty those disgusting bins, yet don't have dogs, I think there should be a hefty licence fee for owning a dog. A couple of hundred a year should cover it. I'd chuck in compulsory training too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 11:51 AM

I’d agree about the licence - a hefty fee might stop so many people taking on a dog without taking on the responsibilities that come with it.

Nobody’s denying that there are dog-owners who don’t clean their dog’s shit up - there are of course, and they boil my piss just as much as, probably more than, they do yours Steve - especially when I step in a pile that someone’s left while I’m picking up my own dog’s crap. It’s as annoying as getting cat-shit all over my hands when I’m gardening - left there by one of the many cats roaming around our neighbourhood day and night. That’s not ‘fair’ either, is it? Perhaps cat-owners should have to pay a couple of hundred quid a year for a licence too, then there might not be so many of the buggers wailing and catterwauling outside our bedroom window, and keeping us awake half the night.

But you keep making these outrageous and totally unsubstantiable claims that they are ‘the vast majority’ of dog-owners. I’m astonished that, as a ‘scientist’, you’re prepared to claim as fact, something which you are totally unable to justify with hard evidence - the evidence doesn’t exist, because the good, responsible, socially aware dog-owners, of which there are many including me, have picked it up and disposed of it in the proper manner. It’s utter nonsense.

Cut out the wild, broad-brush, cynophobic accusations, and I’ll get off your case. Keep it up, and not only will you publicly render yourself increasingly ridiculous, but I’ll be there demonstrating the paucity of your accusations every time.

Anything to say about the anti-social bugger who confessed to letting a human being eat food that a cat had licked? Now there’s something to get your panties bunched about. What kind of dirty sod would play a filthy trick like that? Probably the same kind as the dog-owner who leaves his dog’s shit lying around for other people to tread in.

Ever heard the one about glasshouses and stones?


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 01:33 PM

We have loads of dogs in our village (I love dogs as well as cats, in fact all types of animals!) and people generally clean up after them. But of course, in a village or any smallish community, people are known, and if anyone let their dog's mess lie on the pavement, they'd soon be told off.

Also, there are numerous fields and paths through small woods, beside the river Wensum and all the lakes and pools, so dogs here get a good run, and even a swim in the summertime.

I'm so pleased that two little cats haunt our bungalow, Sam the Skull and Binky. After Smokey's death, it's rather comforting to give them a stroke and a bit of chicken as a treat. We don't mind if they use our front border as a toilet! It soon breaks down in the soil, and probably feeds our Spring bulbs!

And all the dogs that pass the house with their owners get a pat and some kind words. Even my husband (not used to dogs, as in Africa they can carry rabies, plus Muslims are supposed to avoid dogs!) loves them and knows all their names. He lets them jump up and lick him, he adores it!

I reckon one can have a benevolent attitude to all animals. A bit of poo or a wet tongue never killed anyone!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 01:48 PM

This thread in its OP, and intent of origin, concerns
those of us humans who enjoy
the companionship of animals, and who form attachments
intense enough to grieve when the animal dies before we do.

And many of us socialize happily
with each other, as pet owners, and with each other's pet animals.

Hence, those places which in the US are called "dog parks,"
and humans who own dogs frequent those places,
know how to locate them,
and do not hesitate to ask fellow dog owners where to find them.
I know of several within a close radius,
although one has to leave my little town and drive up the road
in order to get to them.

It is easy for me to understand that
humans who are dog-averse not only avoid public places for dogs
but also avoid their fellow humans who have dogs for companions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 03:05 PM

”A bit of poo or a wet tongue never killed anyone!”

Amen to that, Sen, no matter whether canine or feline. It’s a fact us grown-ups are well aware of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 05:02 PM

I always sit at the bottom of our stairs when putting on my dog walking shoes. Often our Dreamy greyhound will put her front paws on the first step and her head on my shoulder!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 05:31 PM

A few years ago a "bit of dog poo" killed a young girl who had picked up the contamination on a beach at Dawlish in Devon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:10 PM

Wrong - do not misquote, the child's death MAY have have been related to an animal's poo, and possibly that of a dog, so uncertain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:17 PM

I told a lie above. I do indeed love all types of animals except...

SPIDERS!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaagh!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Helen
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 06:32 PM

I lo-o-o-ove SPIDERS!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously. We saw an exhibition of spiders when we were on our honeymoon a couple of decades ago in Canberra. We didn't know it was on. We just went to the science exhibition centre and there it was! What a wonderful wedding gift that was. Yay!!!!

Hubby might have been less enthused, though.

I call them eight-legged pussycats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 07:03 PM

Sorry, Bonzo mate, but the best science st the time attributed the girl's death to dogshit on the beach.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 08:23 PM

You can keep your Recluse spiders but I can see a Tarantula or the local Wolf spider as a pet. The Wolf is only 2 inches long but can jump a meter. His eyes are so big.

A man who can not bear a partnership with a good dog/pet over something as small as aroma and can treat other people with something worse than distain has a part missing. That missing part is more than simple empathy. It is also an inability to communicate non verbally and tactilely.
Perhaps Senofou knows what I am on about. I need not apply the title or name. btw Trump never had a dog either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 03:34 AM

”A few years ago a "bit of dog poo" killed a young girl who had picked up the contamination on a beach at Dawlish in Devon.”

In the year 2016/7, 48 children aged between 0-15 years were killed on the roads in the UK.

If you were to strive to acquire a reasonably well-developed sense of proportion, it would almost certainly help you to defeat your irrational phobia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 04:13 AM

We live in a very rural area, a place where our pets are very likely to encounter wildlife and get killed, but it rarely happens. We've always had dogs and cats and fish - that's part of living in the country. We keep our animals in at night, because it's just too dangerous to have them outside at night. But still, our pets often die sooner than they would in a more protected environment. The death of pets happens often for us, but it still hurts every time.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 04:27 AM

Ah, but I believe Adolf Hitler had a dog didn't he?

We enjoyed looking after Pela, that poor little spaniel that the South African couple proposed to leave shut alone in a concrete courtyard for a whole weekend while they went travelling. I got a bit stroppy and said either they let us look after her at our house or I call the RSPCA.
She was so affectionate, and neither of us minded picking up the poo when we walked her. But I found it a bit exhausting walking miles morning, noon and night, so noble husband did extra duties, bless him.
She sat on the sofa next to me all the time and nearly licked me to death. I cried like an idiot when we had to hand her back.
But it did demonstrate that I'm too old now to take on a dog. Cats are easier.
Helen, you made me scream!! Spider exhibition on your honeymoon??!!! Gaaaaaaagh!! hee hee. Seriously though, I feel absolutely ashamed & stupid about this spider phobia. I love all wildlife and all creatures, and can't understand why I can't see it from the spider's point of view. After all, they're just little animals with a right to be on the Earth. But it's so automatic and uncontrollable. Stupid old lady!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 05:11 AM

I hear some people do not use cell phones. You have avoided an orthopedic neck condition as well as spine allignment problems.

Microwave cooking of brain tissue issues are mostly moot today.

You know the benifits of good posture.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 05:12 AM

Well at least I haven't acquired a reasonably well-developed sense of whataboutery...


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 01:50 PM

Neither have you developed the testicles or the good grace to admit you’re wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 12:49 PM

I think Donuel honestly intended that post to be for
a different thread,
maybe the thread where a Mudcatter
allowed that up until this year they never had even a 'stupid' phone,
much less a smartphone.


Dear Eliza/Senoufou,
I thought it was a canary, not a dog,
whose death brought the Führer to tears.
Could be wrong though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 02:47 PM

You may be right about the canary keberoxu, but he did have a dog (a German Shepherd, or 'Alsatian') called Blondi, who went into the bunker with him. He gave the dog a cyanide pill before committing suicide himself. Eva Braun's two puppies were shot afterwards.
Even Irma Grese, that dreadful young woman guard in Auschwitz, had an Alsatian that she enjoyed setting on the unfortunate Jews in the camp.
Isn't it strange that such evil folk can have a deep love of animals like that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 01:47 PM

Senoufou, this phenomenon got worked into the BBC series "Cracker"
years ago. It was the series of episodes called
"To Be A Somebody," in which lead actor Robbie Coltrane had to deal with
a serial killer played by Robert Carlyle,
a role for which the latter actor is still recalled to this day.

There's a video of the bit of footage where Robbie Coltrane's character
unburdens himself of his disgust.
"The sickening sentimentality of the serial killer!
I've seen it time and time again!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 03:52 PM

Oooh I love both those actors keberoxu! And I suppose being a psychopath doesn't protect someone from sentimentality.
Some of the prisoners I talked to 'inside' when visiting had a sentimental streak. They may have robbed old ladies, bashed people on the head and committed other violent offences, but many of them 'missed their dog'! They could also whinge/even weep like anything about silly little events, such as having a bag of sugar stolen by another inmate.
The human mind is endlessly fascinating to me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Loss of a pet
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 20 - 08:35 AM

Today is Sunday, the day of the big game.
It is time for the 2020 Kitten Bowl at 2


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