BS: US war with Iran begins

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 08:12 PM

You're not reading the thread, Nige, nor picking up on its sentiment. You have a choice. Either stick to the bloody point (which, in world terms, is actually quite important), or else I'll take you to pieces on your use of English. Your decision.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran beginsBS ti sss
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 08:10 PM

'Pure' BS still smells like crap just like regular BS.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 08:07 PM

Ah, but how would you know that? Most people who make grammatical or spelling errors don't know they're doing it. Secondly, your usage of that comma is incorrect. Just thought I'd mention it... :-)

The comma is exactly where I intended it to be. I write to be understood, not to confuse. If I had spoken the sentence there would have been a break where the comma appears.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:58 PM

Another ploy from the Steve Shaw handbook:
If you've no good answer to the argument being given make a condescending remark in the hope that others will think you've made a good argument.

Keep trying.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:55 PM

"Any problems with my usage are minor, and accidental..."

Ah, but how would you know that? Most people who make grammatical or spelling errors don't know they're doing it. Secondly, your usage of that comma is incorrect. Just thought I'd mention it... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:46 PM

Don't be silly, Nigel. It's way past your bedtime. See you in the morning.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:46 PM

Egads My thoughts were almost word for word like Steve's words.
Nigel is a purist of sorts and might miss the nuance of wit at times but don't we all.
My dad was a political scientist so my take on the word scientist is more figurative. It is more of a synthesis of disciplines. Even economics has more 'science' in its modeling.

I told Nigel I sometimes like to make up language like James Joyce but after his literal take and extraordinary extrapolation, he was way 'off base' but I never called him 'out'. Well "You're OUT!" :^O

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:32 PM

From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:36 PM
Don't tempt me, Nigel. I tend to ignore your faulty language but that can always change. I have tried to warn you about this before. And stop being so bloody jealous.

Go ahead. Any problems with my usage are minor, and accidental. (with the exception of deliberate misuse in song words). Your misuse seems to be deliberate, as you then try to justify it by claiming that it was 'whimsy', or that you were lying.
It is difficult to have a reasonable written conversation with someone who deliberately (or through pig-headed ignorance) ignores the standard usage of the language.

There is no jealousy involved. You have exhibited nothing of which I could possibly be jealous.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:36 PM

Don't tempt me, Nigel. I tend to ignore your faulty language but that can always change. I have tried to warn you about this before. And stop being so bloody jealous.

Anyway. The bloke taken out by the US was not a good man. But this is no way to go about things. You kill a big man in his own region and you'll reap the consequences. Stated without bias.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 04:35 PM

That's the problem, 'educationalists' trying to educate from a position of ignorance.
You claim to be 'well educated' and a 'scientist'. It's a shame you cannot put scientific rigour to your use of the English language.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 04:22 PM

The trouble with you, Nigel, is that you are too literal with your interpreting. The whole world bar you understands the sentiments behind our exchanges (I'd bet). And I do tussle with Donuel at times so there's no conspiracy here. We educationalists had a category for blokes like you....

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 04:02 PM

From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:59 AM
"Why do you care, the UK left Europe :^?"

????

The UK is in the process of leaving the EU. (it has not yet left)
The UK will forever (presumably) be part of the continental shelf on which Europe is situated, so will remain part of Europe.

"The UK left Europe"
Total bollocks for both the above reasons.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 03:49 PM

'United we stand' stickers here lasted longer than Obama Biden stickers.

United we're bland, informed we understand.

All I know is that more people will probably die over the avenged murder of evil men.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 03:37 PM

Quite.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 03:36 PM

And bush jr.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 03:23 PM

Overseas hubris is a time-honoured way of getting yourself re-elected. It worked for Thatcher and it worked for Blair. I'd say it worked for Reagan and LBJ. It's far easier than getting things right at home. George Orwell told us this in "1984."

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 01:17 PM

*Amos was right.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 12:14 PM

If the US insists on ignoring/disrespecting the UN then the other United Nations must turn against them; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "There Is A UN".

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 09:55 AM

Maybe someone repeated that old saw to Trump about "wartime presidents" always being reelected. A view of the then Obama war in Afghanistan, though Obama didn't start it (or alas, end it.)

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 09:11 AM

Iran is playing the long game of war over US sanctions.
But wars are unpredictable. The killed General was the best friend and mentor to the Supreme Leader of Iran. This may not be business, it is personal now.

I don't think Trump has a best friend and mentor.
Unless its the author of 'My Struggle'.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:59 AM

"Why do you care, the UK left Europe :^?"

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:26 AM

There are lot of interested parties who care about the Straits of Hormuz. It would not take very much at all to turn into a conflict zone.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 07:15 AM

Brexit is hard. I'm sure there have been plenty of suggestions, besides Iran has only stopped ~4 tankers this past year.
Iran vows harsh revenge but what is harsh? A strongly worded tweet?
Naw, Iran is known for truck bombs. Will they hit DC or Mara Lago?

During our last Impeachment even Clinton launched an air strike on Iran.

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Iains
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:47 AM

Europe is a continent I believe, it could be rather hard to upsticks and sail away, but am open to suggestions!

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:38 AM

Why do you care, the UK left Europe :^?

Subject: RE: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Iains
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:37 AM

If Iran decides to close the Straits of Hormuz this could create major problems, especially for Europe.

Subject: BS: US war with Iran begins
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:23 AM

Trump ordered a drone strike killing Iran's Joint Chief of Staff 'archduke' General Solenami. Todays date will rank as the rapid escalation of our march to war. This not to say Iran has not made recent acts of war or that the General was not respondsible for thousands of deaths.

Here comes the war footing Trump has planned to win his 2020 prize.
Proxie wars, tanker wars and cyber wars are expected in the near future.
Happy new year.