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Subject: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 11:37 AM

The President's lawyer Gulliani is under the delusion all branches of goverment are controled by the Cheato.
Mr.G tells the Prez;
The Sumprem Court Justice Roberts, appointed by Trump, may simply dismiss the trial in the Senate and save time and tumult.

The constitution says the Supreme Court will preside over the trial.

Since a judge can dismiss a trial he also has the power to set aside a verdict, which means he tells the jury they are full of shit and the judge will sentence the defendant.

Since the trial may begin next week I guess its up to Trump to decide how much he will pay Roberts to dismiss.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: gillymor
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 11:45 AM

Roberts was appointed by W. Bush, not the current jackass, and while a conservative has voted with the liberals on the bench on some key decisions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 12:00 PM

OK, but Roberts was the appointed TO chief
And then he got yanked around


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: gillymor
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 12:10 PM

Your previous post is incomprehensible but I will say that Roberts took his seat on the court as the Chief Justice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 12:27 PM

Trump litteraly yanked Roberts around
and yes we have George Jr. to thank for Roberts

However Roberts has disappointed conservatives before.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: gillymor
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 12:31 PM

That was Neil Gorsuch in the video. Are you confusing him with Roberts?


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 05:02 PM

Yup I did that, even though I know precisely what Roberts looks like from his 3 Inaugurations of Obama (the 1st one was flubbed and redone) and only one for Trump. I got up at 4 today but enough about me - I may be the 1st person to imagine Roberts setting aside the verdict.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 05:57 PM

The Article of Impeachment are supposed to go to the Senate this week. That does NOT mean the trial starts this week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 06:43 PM

No but McConnel suggests an immediate disposal of his mock trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 06:47 PM

What if Roberts is his own man and declares a mistrial?
No one knows what that would mean.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 07:18 AM

Impeachment is forever, its all I need to please me
It can stimulate and tease me
Impeachment lasts forever all right
I've no fear that he might devour me
Impeachmnt is forever, It lasts beyond a lifetime
See it, smell it and support it
I can see ev'ry part, nothing hides in his heart to hurt me
I don't need lies, for what good will lies do me?
Impeachment never lies to me
For when he's gone, truth will carry on
Impeachment is forever, it wil last forvever I figure
Unlike men, Impeachment lingers…


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 20 - 08:59 AM

Belly up to the Bill Barr boys, Pardons are on the White House

Now exonerate me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 20 - 10:14 AM

Correction: The motion to dismiss the trial was not uo to the judge.
The senators voted and did not have enough votes to dismiss.

Trunp preferred a dismissal. too bad


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 20 - 05:31 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-impeachment-live-updates/2020/01/15/cfde52b6-3784-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.htm


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Jan 20 - 05:57 PM

Don’t get excited. Nothing will happen. He’ll still be the POTUS, and his Extreme-Right-Wing ‘Christian’ supporters will re-elect him for a second term.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 20 - 06:39 AM

Not so fast. There are bomb shells going off that have cracked the dam of all the President's men. Who survives the coming flood is in question. Lev Parnas has ratted them out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Jan 20 - 07:12 AM

Fingers crossed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: EBarnacle
Date: 16 Jan 20 - 09:07 AM

One thing to remember about Roberts is that he is interested both in his legacy and the integrity of the Judiciary. I suspect this trial will be more real than many Republicans fear.
It is also my understanding that this will be the first trial he has presided over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 20 - 02:55 PM

fingers quadruple crossed.

I just watched Roberts sworn in for the Impeachment trial, then all the Senators had to swear and sign the oath of impartiaity. The word of the day is solemn.


Fox News is speaking in low tones repeating, "you will forget all about this come November, you will forget all about this..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jan 20 - 08:43 PM

Rachel Maddow has added a lot of information this week, interviews Wednesday and Thursday (coming up) with Lev Parnas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Mossback
Date: 17 Jan 20 - 10:21 AM

The word of the day is solemn.

No, the word of the day is BULLSHIT,as 99% of the Republican Senators who swore to "do impartial justice according to the constitution and laws" lied through their fucking teeth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 20 - 10:39 AM

Blokes who yell hoax
are jokes who provoke
folks to stoke the smoke
and fires of liar's hell.

dh

pomp and circumstance are kabuke as thin as skin but protects muscle and organs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 20 - 07:22 PM

Don't any of you rap?

Trump has assembled his dream team. Ken Star, OJ's Dershowitz, robert Ray


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jan 20 - 05:01 PM

The democrats are going with the Matlock Mason & Mull firm next Tue.:^/


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jan 20 - 10:05 PM

Here's hoping the Chief Justice gives them the kind of stern talking to that shames them into doing the right thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 06:43 PM

The next 48 hours will tell all. Wednesday will tell us if a real trial with witnesses and testimony or a McConell cover up will proceed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 05:00 AM

”Don't any of you rap?”

We’re musicians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 02:59 PM

touche'

Some impeachment rules have been reched/reached in a compromise but there are still too many supeona colladas, skid row pros and Slim peach mints on the table.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 04:41 PM

Yep the Rep Senators tabled the compromise which means
No documents or witnesses.
The judge looks sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 04:47 PM

The GOP is literally making it up as they go. Whole cloth. Lying through their teeth. Telling a story of past events that is so altered it bears no resemblance to the events we all watched in December.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 05:06 PM

Lies are The New Truths. In the UK, as well as the US.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 05:52 PM

You are not going to get him. In fact, I think you're making him stronger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Iains
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 01:29 AM

Come the election Trump will have a stonking majority in both houses.
The attempted coup is upsetting the electorate. Their payback time is coming.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 07:02 AM

44 worried tweets from Trump in Davos this morning alone.
"I am honest" (equals I am not a crook)

Young Trump was found holding an axe by a chopped down prize cherry tree. "I can not tell a lie father, the cherry tree attacked me with an axe."


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 07:47 AM

There is a palpable 39% still for Trump which is stonking.
Yes the coup is upsetting. Yes payback time is coming.
Those Senators that hung together will hang separetly.

Iains black ops has turned dingy grey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 10:40 AM

The purpose of bringing all of the motions to amend yesterday [until 2 this morning was not to win the votes on the items. It was to get the Republicans on the record as opposing a real trial. The only one who broke with the majority even once was Collins. The decisions were a foregone conclusion.

Roberts came across well last night but only broke with his largely ceremonial role when he admonished both sides for calling each other liars rather than using pussy foot language such as "My worthy opponent is truly mistaken about the facts, which are . . ." His statement essentially said "This is the Senate in which a certain standard of decorum is expected."


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 10:43 AM

Those who support Trump are simply reciting the party line over and over, regardless of what everyone knows to be true. Repeat it often enough and the news cycle shifts and maybe the lies hit eyeballs first. There are various sayings about how fast lies travel:

“A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on.” C. H. Spurgeon, Gems from Spurgeon (1859).
An earlier version appears in the Portland (Me.) Gazette, Sept. 5, 1820: “Falsehood will fly from Maine to Georgia, while truth is pulling her boots on.”
Still earlier, Jonathan Swift wrote in The Examiner, Nov. 9, 1710: “Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it.”

Trump is hoping a lie will set him free. The rest of us are hoping that as citizens watch their senators toe the line and not support the constitution that they will unelect them in the next cycle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 11:10 AM

Patriots vs Partisans

The bottom line is that I have a healthy belief in Americans being able to accomplish virtually anything, so long as we are united and apply ourselves appropriately. By default, anything that can undo our unity stands in the way of Americans employing “good ole’ Yankee ingenuity” and facing down any threat or problem is our most serious national security threat. In our current environment, so-called “fake news,” intentionally and unintentionally disseminated by foreign enemies and those who believe themselves patriotic is without a doubt the single most effective means of undoing our national unity. This, in my opinion makes “fake news” our primary national security threat.

No problem or, by extension, threat can be solved or mitigated while we are at odds with our fellow citizens. Our enemies understand this all too well and do all possible to unravel the tightly woven, patriotic fabric of U.S. society with media designed to divide us. Their primary method is to use mis- and disinformation as tools to divide us or, as is commonly known these days, “fake news.” The truth is facts matter and, more importantly, the truth that is made up by those facts matters the most. The only ingredient missing between opposing groups, political parties, ethnicities, etc., is settling on a foundation of facts to any problem or threat. Like all problem solving, you cannot succeed without analysis of what is known.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 03:00 PM

The street wise recognize the mistake that the former reality show master of ceremony and corrupt businessman has made. It is the same mistake made by petty criminals and polished con men alike.
It is repeating the same crime multiple times until a Method of Operation cause them to be captured and convicted.
'Smart crooks' realize you don't pull the same con twice, you do a new scam.

There is also a fraction of criminals who derive an additional thrill from the risk of getting caught and say things to make it more possible. I see both of these behaviors in my President.

My aim is not to educate criminals but to show an absense of common sense among criminals.





Senator Schiff reminds us:

"When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his tenper, possessed of some talents, having the example of military habits - despotic in his ordinary demeanor - knpwn to have scoffed in private at he principles of liberty - when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity - to join in the cry of danger to liberty - to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government and bringing it under suspicion - to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day - it may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind'"

Alexander Hamilton


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 03:19 PM

I hope Schiff becomes a Senator one day.

btw the Trump lawyers all call him Mr. Shipp and sometimes accidently on purpose say Mr. Shitt


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 10:16 AM

I take heart from Don Trump's extraordinary ignorance. He knows only the history of Adolf Hitler from Mien Kampf. If he knew of Crassus he would be far more dangerous and have an affinity for the man. He is often called "The richest man in Rome". A multi billionaire in todays economy, he 'earned' his money as a real estate tycoon.

Crassus began his public career as a military commander under Lucius Cornelius Sulla during his civil war. Following Sulla's assumption of the dictatorship, Crassus amassed an enormous fortune through real estate speculation. Rome voted to give Crassus an army to defeat a slave revolt that scared the rich. Crassus rose to political prominence following his victory over the slave revolt led by Spartacus, sharing the consulship with his rival Pompey the Great. The word decimation started with Crassus when he punished his army for a loss in battle by haveing 1 in 10 soldiers beaten to death by fellow soldiers.

A political and financial patron of Julius Caesar, Crassus joined Caesar and Pompey in the unofficial political alliance known as the First Triumvirate. Together the three men dominated the Roman political system. The alliance did not last long, due to the ambitions, egos, and jealousies of the three men. While Caesar and Crassus were lifelong allies, Crassus and Pompey disliked each other and Pompey grew increasingly envious of Caesar's spectacular successes in the Gallic Wars. The alliance was re-stabilized at the Lucca Conference in 56 BC, after which Crassus and Pompey again served jointly as consuls. Following his second consulship, Crassus was appointed as the Governor of Roman Syria. Crassus used Syria as the launchpad for a military campaign against the Parthian Empire, Rome's long-time Eastern enemy. Crassus' campaign was a disastrous failure, ending in his defeat and death at the Battle of Carrhae.

Crassus' death permanently unravelled the alliance between Caesar and Pompey. His political influence and wealth had been a counterbalance to the two greater militarists. Within four years of Crassus' death, Caesar crossed the Rubicon and began a civil war against Pompey and the Optimates. You probably know how that ended.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 11:02 AM

The Republican defense is called the dirty underwear defense.
They throw dirty underwear against the wall and what ever sticks is what they will use to throw at their adversary. For example;

It is a shame of a hoax of a witch hunt of a lie of a nothing burger of a mole hill of a cootie claim of a delusion of a sick insane democrat mind.
or
There is no possible crime because under executive priviledge a President can not be accussed of a crime.
or
If something is worth lying or cheating about then that proves it is important enough to be the truth.
or
na nana nah nah, my votes bigger than yours


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Bainbo
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 09:30 AM

I see the Orange One is now so adamant that he should not be tried for abusing his position by issuing threats that he has ...
*checks notes*
abused his position by issuing threats to ...
*checks notes again*
those who are actually trying him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Elmore
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 10:58 AM

Schiff for President.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 11:59 AM

Trump is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
rip Terry Jones


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 03:42 PM

It may be that my earlier comment about Roberts was optimistic. This is from "The Nation" this morning.

https://www.thenation.com/article/roberts-impeachment-trial/


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 03:53 PM

McConnel's new rules might be at play here. Lets see if Roberts grows a pair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 10:23 AM

I still have hope and some spare change but not enough for a cup of coffee. Go to last 5 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jFtYVmnEc
Trump won't leave.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 10:44 AM

NPR is offering fact checks during the defense presentation as speakers take turns. It's a loony look at non-related parts of the phone call, etc. There will be logical fallacies because they don't have a defense.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Mossback
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 01:33 PM

NPR is offering fact checks during the defense presentation

Should be an easy job, since there ARE no facts in the defense presentation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 20 - 02:42 PM

It was a strange look at unrelated goings-on in the guise of evidence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 09:27 AM

The released John Bolton excerpts are more than a grain of sand to tip the scales of justice toward prosecution. It is a game changer and enough cover for timid Republicans to line up behind Romney and others.

It is a check, but not a checkmate, if this was chess.

You see if Trump claims executive privilege he opens the door for the claim to be ruled illegal when used to hide a crime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 07:05 PM

In the movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, at the end after Mr.Smith is beaten down and voiceless after accusing his opponent of crimes, a guy comes into the chamber and yells "Its True, what Smith says is all true."
Thats what Bolton is doing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: EBarnacle
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 03:09 PM

I had my stomach churned yesterday, listening to the Republican "defense team" defending their dear leader. What was not outright lying was attacks on political opponents, especially the Bidens. There was very little relevance to the point of the impeachment, except to say that as President, trump can do whatever he wants. It is scary that his popularity his risen during the trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 03:35 PM

I'm almost hypnotized by the impeachment trial. Firstly, there are some pretty good lawyers, some famous for being paid a lot, and some of the ones who are famous for being paid a lot are good. There's the chief justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the conduct of the trial, and Mitch McConnell, one of the most astute and evil Senators of recent times presiding over the proceedings of the Senate.
I have found excellent speakers on both sides. One of the President's lawsyers, I think but I didn't get the name, was Cippolone. The other was Dershowitz. I think they both showed great linguistic skill in defending the President. Sekulow has a lot of attitude, but I think he is prime misdirector of the argument. He will obfuscate out of every side of his mouth, and he has more sides than most. Most likely to graduate to mob lawyer.
So far, I find Adam Schiff to be the moral conscience of the entire case. And He doesn't seem to miss anything; his clarity of diction and plain speaking of the principles he is defending, his elocution, is a marvel. I also think a lot of Zoe Lofgren.

I admit to a slight chance that I'm partisan on this issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Mossback
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 05:53 PM

The "Imperachment Trial"-???

An actual "trial" hasn't begun as yet, as the RepubliShits - who once were a party & the 'Loyal Opposition' and have now become a mindless Trumpist cult- are doing all that they can to prevent one.

The other was Dershowitz. I think they both showed great linguistic skill in defending the President

Yup, they can sling utter bullshit with the best of 'em - and none of it has anything to do with the facts at issue.


God Help AmeriKKKa


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 12:28 PM

I would rather be a prisoner of hope than a subject of lifetime tyrant with absolute power.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 12:48 PM

Deep in the bowels of the Pentagon a gathering of all Generals and Admirals commence a meeting of the consequences of the Impeachment trial on National Security.
(a microphone squeals)
China, Russia, Iran and North Korea have lifetime leaders.
Gentlemen, hey... Ladies and Gentlemen WE MUST NOT HAVE A LIFETIME TYRANT GAP ! We must support Trump at all costs.

(unseen voice) and what about the Constitution?

The Constitution is paper, We are the scissors.

WHORAH WHORAH WHORAH


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 07:26 AM

Now that a President may do anything he wants, the Republicas are extending an olive branch by suggesting in matters of elections that the ballots be counted by an impartial third party like Russia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 09:20 AM

If the ruling carries over to the public we could rob a bank keep the money if caught and even do it again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Iains
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 04:37 AM

The partisan impeachment seems to be running into the buffers!


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 05:01 AM

I repeat what I said two weeks ago...

”Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 15 Jan 20 - 05:57 PM

Don’t get excited. Nothing will happen. He’ll still be the POTUS, and his Extreme-Right-Wing ‘Christian’ supporters will re-elect him for a second term.”


The first part is coming true right now, part deux will follow in due course...


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 05:40 AM

Yep, yanks, you've lost it and you've made him stronger. Nice work. Slice of chlorine chicken, Brits?


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 06:10 AM

Happy Brexit, Brits. We don't seem to have a monopoly on stupidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 06:26 AM

Couldn't agree more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 06:37 AM

I certainly don't fault the House for living up to it's constitutional responsibilities. It might not have gotten as far as impeachment if the then Republican-led house had lived up to theirs by providing at least a modicum of oversight during the first two years of the scumbag's administration.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 06:41 AM

With you on all counts, Gilly. It’s a f**ked-up world we’re living in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 10:23 AM

Because of Forest Gump like coincidence I have known Mob bosses all my life starting with the the big boss meeting in my hometown of Appalacain NY , between Owego and Vestal . I have always seen bosses get away with it via witness tampering or murder, but only at first. Eventually the boss gets caught red handed or eliminated.

As a therapist in pre Soprano times I had a M boss as a client during the A team B team wars in NY. I even heard the explosion of the car that killed a boss, I accidently learned that the police knew of the hit ahead of time. Later a nurse who treated the boss who was car bombed told me he was in one piece but died of pressure induced massive capillary bleed.
A previous tenent left a list of victims that had already been eliminated and the list was found under the sink. Against all odds I even met Mr. Gambino and others. There were more shocking coincidences that I hesitate to mention that the police wanted me to cover up. It involved the mob stealing back evidence and heroin from a State Police station. I had the recording of details off a special radio receiver that preceded microwave telephones.

Anyway Trump is a bit like a mob boss and will face a similar fate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Iains
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 01:01 PM

It is hard to take any of this process seriously as it is split along party lines. It is a purely political motion with zero substance.
This will be made abundantly clear at the Presidential Elections, where the Democrats will get a larruping.

Look what happenned to Labour in the UK when they lost the trust of the electorate. It translated into a massive loss of seats, influence and credibility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 04:22 PM

The linchpin in this is McConnell - either get rid of McConnell, or take away the senate majority (at which time you get rid of McConnell). He is up for election this term.

For all that Trump is awful, the spawn of satan have been given lifetime appointments on many federal judicial seats. We WILL see many more senate impeachments, as those judges are removed from office for graft, corruption, and incompetence.

The media have to stop boosting their ratings by putting his misbehavior front and center. They (all) are culpable in what has happened over the last three years. The journalists who have the blessing of The Constitution to report on the government work for (mostly) for-profit businesses that put the bottom line ahead of the honest news.

After Wednesday's acquittal, Trump is going to act like a fucking king.

We are in a fix.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 04:47 PM

We are not in a fix, we are in a broken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 08:35 PM

We are reaping the harvest of the know nothing tea party and rich elites for Citizens United. The claw back democratic votes will be joined by some Republicans who can clearly see that Trump is surely guilty of something but his pals let him get away with it. The Impeachment used to be a grey confusing blob of Biden, Ukraine perfect phone calls and a witch hunt.
Clarity helps smart folks but will still go over the head of low info voters.

The hallmark of the coming October surprise lies will be an unsophisticated lie. The more unsophisticated the better for who ever is telling it.

In the meantime the Iowa caucasus; the ancient ritual of Caucasions playing telephone in a group and whispering names is finally here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Mossback
Date: 01 Feb 20 - 09:35 PM

"How will the nation’s Republican senators look anyone in the face and say they have any rights to keep in check a corrupt and criminal president? How can they pretend to be Trump’s victims when they marched themselves off a constitutional cliff?

And how on earth can they pretend to the world that their vision of America – where a president can happily use military aid to coerce a foreign government to smear his political rival in an election – is the model for democracy?

Today’s Republican party elected to remove their spinal cords three years ago, along with much of their frontal lobe and their self-respect. They wring their hands in private and lament their lampoon-worthy leader whose shoes they must lick on a daily basis.

But they should know they are following in a fine tradition of the world’s puppet legislators, like the People’s Council of Syria and the Russian Duma under the expert guidance of one Vladimir Putin."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/31/republicans-impeachment-trump-richard-wolffe


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 20 - 08:42 AM

How will Republicans live with themselves?

All is fair in love and war and the dirty tricks of politics


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Iains
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 06:58 AM

The Constitution requires the President deliver a letter to Congress(which is what the copy handed to Pelosi represents). The speech is NOT required. Hence she destroyed a Constitutionally required document.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 09:47 AM

:rolleyes: The great Scotch Tape Debate


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Mossback
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 10:23 AM

Hence she destroyed a Constitutionally required document.

As opposed to POSOTUS Trump who has destroyed the Constitution entirely, with the active assistance of the Trumpublican shits in the Senate.

Welcome to The Bannana Republic Of The United States, soon to reprise 1930's Germany, if it isn't there already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Iains
Date: 06 Feb 20 - 03:01 AM

Will Pelosi be arrested for destruction of a federal document?

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully
conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Feb 20 - 07:01 AM

FLUSH
Whew that one was uglier most

Iains is transferring his Bellaruse trollism over here now that Brexit has cooled to a simmer. However you do know shit doncha


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: mg
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 02:17 AM

i want trump gone gone gone and i think it will be from mental decline.i also think what pelosi did was unbecoming and did not help matters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 02:29 AM

George Conway’s opinion in the Washington Post. Viewed from the far side of the ditch, it sums up the entire farcical situation perfectly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 02:41 AM

https://i.redd.it/r7xy7ttin6e41.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 05:39 AM

No comment necessary...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQDDdBoUEAEKQLL?format=jpg&name=medium


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 06:52 AM

Touche'


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 11:28 AM

I’m guessing you mean Touché? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 01:28 PM

I do fancypants.
Its Trump that is touched.

He proclaimed the opposite of the entire sermon on the mount at a prayer celebration yesterday. He was met with laughter and applause.


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Subject: RE: BS: Impeachment 'noose'
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 01:41 PM

”I do fancypants.”

We all have crosses to bear - pedantry regarding spelling and punctuation is mine. ;-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: piercing radio blast aimed to'rds leenia
From: mg
Date: 07 Feb 20 - 07:32 PM

who among these many candidates is capable and strong enough to lead us through what could be nothing at all, or could be a terrible national crisis. Food shortages, panic, quarantine, loss of jobs, eminent domain. No hospital beds..maybe beds laid out in a field somewhere. Who comes to mind? Warren? Can't see it. Bernie? Can't see it. Joe..could see it 30 years ago. Booker. gone but mr. nice guy. Tulsi..maybe but she won't get nomination. Budd? Not sure. Bloomberg ..i just don't know. None spring to mind. One person in my lifetime springs to mind and that is General Honore but he is not running. One first lady that made emergencies her mission was Marilyn Quayle. Not sure what she is doing. Trump? Only will save the 1%. Pence? Only will save the saved. One thing I believe is that some unknowns just perking along will rise to the occasion but I don't know who. And do this at the same time as dealing with Iran, climate change, Brexit, Megxit, etc. Maybe some of the generals that trump deposed.


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