Incel singer-songwriters

Subject: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 03:24 PM

Texas story

Anybody heard any of the songs of Scott Paul Breierle?

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 03:49 PM

Since you ask, no. Not in Massachusetts.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: peteglasgow
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 05:11 PM

any relation to amos brierley?

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: meself
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 05:52 PM

No. Not sure why I'd want to - unless I had some reason to think they were worth listening to ... ?

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 06:41 PM

At least IS suicide bombers have the optimism they'll get 72 virgins all to themselves in paradise..

But the incel terror fanatics are doomed to an eternity as pathetic celibate losers...

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 20 - 08:24 PM

I looked for YouTube videos by Scott Paul Breierle, and found none. Brierle shot six people in a Florida hot yoga studio in 2018, killing two.

I'm moving this to the non-music section because I don't want it to be open to non-members who Google upon us.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 06:34 AM

Ah, I was wondering.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 11:25 AM

I suspect Breierle will not be the last to put his obsessions into song. If I remember right, the Freikorps of post-WW1 Germany (the militias that morphed into the Nazi SA) had a song repertoire, and from what Klaus Theweleit writes about them their looniest hard core were much like the incels - their creative manifestations were insanely misogynistic.

Not something that seems to have caught on in the UK - yet.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 11:35 AM

no..at least some of our UK right wing misogynists can still get an occasional shag..

Even if the women are conscious and aware of it, and consent sometimes...

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 12:24 PM

This is based upon a State of Texas report but the cases cited are all over the place. These guys must have been raised by wolves who had Internet porn playing in their dens, to give these guys the idea that they are entitled to sex without being decent human beings in order to score.

Entitlement is a huge problem as far as many people's personal points of view. How many times a day do you see advertisements telling you that you "deserve" something that is totally unnecessary or something you need to work for in order to have? Something being fair or not—"fair" is a relative term and again, these guys are feeding their anger in ways that don't allow for reasonable definitions to take hold.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 03:39 PM

The issue is that this isn't just an issue of widely replicated individual pathology any more. It's turning into a movement, with its own objectives, mythologies, strategies and shared culture, very much like the German losers after WW1. So, we need to be aware of it. That Texas report was the sort of proactive work police forces ought to be doing, and due credit to them for it, but the rest of us can't just leave it all to them.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 05:18 PM

Maybe the faighful can spare a couple houris in the afterlife? Wouldn't hurt to ask!

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: mg
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 06:48 PM

Is that a label that is imposed on them or one they proudly claim? There are a lot of lonely, socially disadvantaged men out there and many are ridiculed. I think putting a label on someone's quite personal life is disgusting. I am talking in general.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 07:11 PM

We're talking about the loser virgin/celibate males
who fantasise about spitefully taking out their resentment on women,
in acts of violent revenge..
Particularly the ones who have already crossed the line into real violence and murder...

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: meself
Date: 13 Jan 20 - 10:39 PM

mg: Apparently that's a label they've given themselves. It's like the nightmare inverse of a self-help movement. They've taken the first step - admitting they have a problem - but it all goes crazy from there. They see their problem as the fault of womankind. It would be merely pathetic if it weren't dangerous.

Subject: RE: Incel singer-songwriters
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Jan 20 - 08:34 PM

They seem to be as crazy as the QAnon folks. And that's pretty crazy.