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BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy

Senoufou 20 Jan 20 - 03:58 AM
Sandra in Sydney 20 Jan 20 - 04:23 AM
Helen 20 Jan 20 - 04:25 AM
Steve Shaw 20 Jan 20 - 05:33 AM
gillymor 20 Jan 20 - 05:36 AM
Senoufou 20 Jan 20 - 05:52 AM
Mr Red 20 Jan 20 - 05:58 AM
Dave the Gnome 20 Jan 20 - 06:40 AM
Doug Chadwick 20 Jan 20 - 08:28 AM
Jeri 20 Jan 20 - 09:02 AM
Donuel 20 Jan 20 - 09:23 AM
Senoufou 20 Jan 20 - 09:37 AM
fat B****rd 20 Jan 20 - 09:54 AM
keberoxu 20 Jan 20 - 10:04 AM
EBarnacle 20 Jan 20 - 10:55 AM
punkfolkrocker 20 Jan 20 - 11:38 AM
Pete from seven stars link 20 Jan 20 - 11:50 AM
keberoxu 20 Jan 20 - 12:03 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 20 Jan 20 - 12:18 PM
Stilly River Sage 20 Jan 20 - 12:41 PM
Charley Noble 20 Jan 20 - 12:57 PM
Donuel 20 Jan 20 - 03:00 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 20 Jan 20 - 03:12 PM
Anne Lister 20 Jan 20 - 04:49 PM
Joe Offer 20 Jan 20 - 05:09 PM
Mrrzy 20 Jan 20 - 05:56 PM
Senoufou 20 Jan 20 - 06:13 PM
meself 20 Jan 20 - 07:09 PM
Helen 20 Jan 20 - 08:48 PM
ChanteyLass 20 Jan 20 - 10:00 PM
JennieG 21 Jan 20 - 12:43 AM
Monique 21 Jan 20 - 02:38 AM
Donuel 21 Jan 20 - 09:23 AM
Mrrzy 21 Jan 20 - 03:32 PM
Mrrzy 22 Jan 20 - 08:49 PM
leeneia 22 Jan 20 - 09:06 PM
Mrrzy 23 Jan 20 - 03:52 PM
Senoufou 23 Jan 20 - 04:00 PM
Mrrzy 23 Jan 20 - 09:13 PM
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Senoufou 24 Jan 20 - 04:12 AM
Mrrzy 24 Jan 20 - 12:30 PM
Helen 24 Jan 20 - 01:05 PM
Senoufou 24 Jan 20 - 01:11 PM
Mrrzy 24 Jan 20 - 01:28 PM
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Mrrzy 24 Jan 20 - 03:10 PM
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Subject: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 03:58 AM

I received a very worrying message from Mrrzy two days ago, asking if I would be willing to create a thread to tell Mudcat about certain circumstances, if I heard nothing more by Monday. I agreed of course, so here are the details.
(Firstly, I'm assuming that Mrrzy is a woman, but I hope I'll be forgiven if that's not the case.)
She has been feeling suicidal for quite a while and things got extremely serious, so her friends have been watching over her constantly. Now she has booked herself into a special suicide-prevention unit for a couple of weeks, and will have very limited access to the Internet.
There are many problems on her mind, including empty-nest syndrome, her cat, displacement to a foreign land, the traumatic death of her father and so on. It has all come to a head and she is in a bad way.
She would welcome any support on here from us all, which I'm sure will be forthcoming from everyone.
I have full permission from Mrrzy to relate all these details.
Mrrzy, for my part, I wish you well and hope you can surmount all your troubles and sad memories. Meilleurs voeux pour une vite récupération!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 04:23 AM

sending good wishes & hugs


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 04:25 AM

Thanks Senoufou for letting us know about Mrrzy.

Mrrzy, this is my heartfelt wish for you. I hope you find this place within you, as I did many years ago after a series of events put me in a bad place emotionally. When I worked through the issues and came out better and stronger for being able to deal with it all, this song helped me to celebrate my new found harmonious self. Every time I hear it I am reminded of how I survived and thrived after that time in my life.

All the best thoughts and prayers from Helen in Australia.


I Can See Clearly Now

I can see clearly now the rain is gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day

Oh, yes I can make it now the pain is gone
All of the bad feelings have disappeared
Here is that rainbow I've been praying for
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day

Look all around, there's nothing but blue skies
Look straight ahead, there's nothing but blue skies

I can see clearly now the rain is gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day
It's gonna be a bright (bright)
Bright (bright) sunshiny day


Songwriters: Johnny Nash
I Can See Clearly Now lyrics © Warner Chappell Music, Inc


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:33 AM

Isn't Mrrzy a man?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:36 AM

Mrrzy, there are a lot of folks here that think very highly of you, myself included.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:52 AM

Steve, I don't know. I hope he/she will understand my mistake if I've got it wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:58 AM

here's a song I wrote for a young lass I knew. I was 11,000 miles away at the time. It did its part, along with the professional help she was getting. If I could have done the same for the next person I would have gladly traded the song, and a lot more.

Eilidh

it scrolls to put the song at the top automatically.

I hope it helps.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 06:40 AM

I am sure someone recently told me that mrrzy was male but it doesn't matter. Male, female or non-binary I send them all my best healing wishes. If you read this, mrrzy, when you feel up to it, get over to us in Airedale. Everyone leaves our house feeling better :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 08:28 AM

A few years ago, Mrrzy let it be known, here on Mudcat, that a transition to gender neutral was being made. A request, to anyone who knew the given first name, was not to use it or assign a gender, and that "they/it" would be preferred to "he" or "she".

I hope you are soon feeling better Mrrzzy.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 09:02 AM

What Doug said.
The thread is somewhere around here, I think, but gender identification doesn't seem like a huge deal right now.
I'm happy Mrrzy knew to ask for help, and seems to be getting it. Strength to you...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 09:23 AM

Displacement to a foreign land is a worthy worry. West Virginia, Desert Depression Nevada, Jailville, Patagonia? Some I can visit some I can not.
He's a dude, the 'y' confuses most.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 09:37 AM

Oh dear, well I hope Mrrzy forgives me for my mistake, but as people say, what's important here is the distress and anguish he is suffering at the moment, and one's hopes for some sort of resolution and improvement in his mind.
Mudcat can be so supportive and kind, and I'm sure this will help him to feel appreciated and cared about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: fat B****rd
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 09:54 AM

Sending the very best thoughts and good wishes from Dunfermline.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 10:04 AM

One of the choicest pleasures below the music-thread line
is watching Mrrzy and Senoufou exchange posts en français when the spirit moves them.

It is telling that when the message needed to be relayed on Mrrzy's behalf,
the Mudcat member entrusted with the task was someone who leads with the heart,
rather than somebody focusing on pronouns.

Omitted from the list of concerns -- I looked for this --
was when Mrrzy's place of employment shut down,
and efforts to move on to another post got nowhere.

Yes, it can be substantiated that
when in past threads
one fellow member used "her" for Mrrzy,
there was a prompt correction.
I agree with Jeri, though, it seems secondary at best.

Hope Mrrzy gets some rest and relief at the very least.
We're pulling for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: EBarnacle
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 10:55 AM

The thing to remember is that hard times pass but we have to persist through them. there are many here who value you and wish you well.

HARD TIMES ARE LIKE KIDNEY STONES, THEY TOO SHALL PASS even though you will be in pain while it happens. Get past it soon and stay with us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 11:38 AM

I will now probably appear hard hearted and unsympathetic .. but...

I have long painful experience of my sibling's decades of emotionally blackmailing our parents
with suicide attempts..

A question still hangs over how she ultimately passed...

..and another relative with no apparent suicidal tendencies at all,
who suddenly flipped without warning and killed himself.

So my hardened attitude is either make a good job of it causing least heart break
and inconvenience to other folks,
or ask for professional help asap...

Mrrzy - you have chosen the most positive option,
and I sincerely wish you good health and well being..
and continued progress in managing your problems for many years to come..

Stay on top of it mudcat mate...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 11:50 AM

I recall that Mrrzy’ dad was killed in tragic and violent circumstances . Also that accommodation had been precarious. Wishing Mrrzy peace


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 12:03 PM

No hard feelings, pfr -- just the opposite --
yours is the voice of experience,
reflecting the opposite side of one same coin.
And behind your 'hardened' attitude is real depth of feeling.
That means that your words and sentiments have weight here.

Thanks for sticking your neck out, pfr,
and we know you have Mrrzy's back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 12:18 PM

O gosh - I’m so sorry to read this. Mrrzy - sending much love from this corner of the world. You’re one of my favourite Catters. Hang in there and stay with us.

Bonnie <3


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 12:41 PM

Seeking help was the right thing to do, and keeping your friends apprised of your situation was a kind thing to do. You've got this managed.

Get well and stay whole.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 12:57 PM

I do hope you recover and come back to post, although Mudcat is the least of your concerns. But we're here.

Charlie Ipcar


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 03:00 PM

Jeeze Louise He has had as challenging a life as one can have.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 03:12 PM

Mrrzy: in my opinion, you should never ever commit suicide - a good friend (plenty with positive thoughts just above) or a good break can be just around the corner and change your mindset completely. Carry on, please...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Anne Lister
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 04:49 PM

Mrzzy, I hope you are reading these messages. Sending you huge love and concern and wishing there was more I could do. I don't read the threads here very often these days and I'm so sorry I didn't catch up with this before. Many hugs, much love and I hope these messages give you some support.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:09 PM

Mrr, all I can say is that I appreciate you very much. Your wisdom and your goodness shine through bright and clear.
With love,
Joe


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 05:56 PM

Thanks all, and keep right on giving me reasons to thank you. Short answers now, but they will get longer.

And I totz forgot to remind (inform?) Senoufou about the They thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 06:13 PM

Hahaha Mrrzy, you did say something in your message about the 'singular They' but I didn't quite understand (silly old lady!) So sorry about that.
Glad you are able to access Mudcat and read our encouraging words.
We're all thinking of you and wishing you well.

Keep a-troshing bor! And dorn't yew let the bottom drarp owt!
(Norfolkspeak for 'hang in there mate and keep everything steady')


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 07:09 PM

Hang in there, Mrrzy - we need you here!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 08:48 PM

Ah Mrrzy, great to see you here.

Some people know what They want in life,
And some people know how to get it.
Some people need some encouragement
And some people will help Them to get it.


And here we all are!! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 20 Jan 20 - 10:00 PM

Hey, Mrrzy, I have high hopes for your recovery. Seeking help is a very big first step. I hope the rest are smaller!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: JennieG
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 12:43 AM

Mrrzy - sending love from afar. Good to see you again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Monique
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 02:38 AM

Mrrzy, rien ni personne ne vaut/ne mérite que tu y/lui sacrifies ta vie. On n'en a qu'une, prends-en bien soin et un petit coup de pouce pour t'aider. Accroche-toi bien!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 09:23 AM

to be or not to be.
To bear the bullets
and blunt bludgeons
of the ignorant and
by opposing them all
win
do I want to grow
do I want to live
do I want to love

Love?
It is your 1 duty

What is love 2 u?
Is it a policeman who stops his car to investigate
a vagrant awake on the street corner dieing
A friend says I'll share my wine with you
The government says I will help you
The doctor says I will cure you
The son says I'll give you $
And the church gives a meal
The church is investing
the vagrant is thinking
I do not want to be alone
I want to see things I love
I want to remember the things I love
The poetry of a woman crossing her legs
The passion of pondering an impossible mystery
I will forget the false equivalence to my parents
I never really was alone but I chose to not see all the help?

The vagrant dies anyway
but not for decades
in a brand new life
thats the deal
take it or
leave it?

Life to me personally is all questions
and wishing I had more 'do overs'
Answers? Shit if I know
except for the 1 duty


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 03:32 PM

Luvs


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 08:49 PM

Sad by osmosis is a new phrase...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Jan 20 - 09:06 PM

I'm thinking of you, Mrrzy, and wishing you well. My sympathy on the death of your father.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 03:52 PM

Still here


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 04:00 PM

Hope you are comfortable Mrrzy, and that the food is nice etc. Perhaps the rest and change of scene, and time to reflect gently about all your difficulties will help you to feel better, and able to cope with life.
We're all thinking about you, and wishing you well.
Sending a huge HUG!
Eliza


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 09:13 PM

Actually the food is not bad, wish I wanted to eat it... At 5'3" I had been at about 160lbs for at least 10 years, down from a max of 214 in the 90's; propanolol last summer made me put on 20 lbs in 6 weeks so I made them take me off it (the propanolol, that is), and then just could not lose it (the weight, that is) - I weighed 179 on Dec 19, and when I checked in here on Jan 19 I weighed 161, and now I weigh 157 4 days later. Not a healthy variation.
Brits, divide by 14 to get my stones. Ha ha ha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 10:10 PM

Food and sleep, those are two of the biggies.
The meds, now, that's between you and the caregivers/doctors.
Anyway,
the sooner you are sleeping and eating -- no particular order --
with some relief for what you feel,
the better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 04:12 AM

We weigh about the same Mrrzy, roughly eleven stone. And about the same height too.
I don't reckon it's necessary to eat large quantities of grub if you don't feel like it Just make sure you get the essential combination of proteins, vegetables and fruit, a bit of carbohydrate and...dozens and dozens of crumpets dripping with butter.
Oh, wait. Ignore that last one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 12:30 PM

Ooh, a crumpet strumpet! Totz approve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 01:05 PM

You could try my crumpet favourite: good orange marmalade with a topping of mild cheese. It may not help nutritionally, but it might help you to feel good.

Hugs from Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 01:11 PM

Hahaaaaa Mrrzy! The Crumpet Strumpet eh? Can't wait for my husband to come home from his work so I can tell him. He'll laugh his head off I'm sure!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 01:28 PM

Aw fuck me sideways my younger son is back in the ER having another psychotic break


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 01:56 PM

Oh NO Mrrzy.
No, no, no, no, NO !!

Maybe it's the sun in mad old Aquarius ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 03:10 PM

Fuck me sideways yeah right but apparently he called himself in so yay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 04:00 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 04:01 PM

Sorry... that wuz me saying Keep us posted


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Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 04:03 PM

Forgot to add: xxxxxxxx’s

%!!*&#@*! Ipads...


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