BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 02:58 PM

There is some really good temporary hair colour called hair chalk. It only lasts one or maybe two washes. There is a big selection of colours in my set. It's fun. You can change your hair colour as often as you like. Go rainbow if you want!

Yes, I waited until leaving work to go wild with the hair colour. I have been saying for years that I would dye it purple when I could stop applying for jobs but then they threw us a curve ball in 2016 and told us we had to work 90 km or 60 miles south of here so I had to start applying for jobs again in my early 60's. Grrrrr!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 03:23 PM

I tried hair chalk, it did not color my hair. I assume I did it wrong...

Yes, local. But there are a ton of schools here not hiring me. Yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 03:26 PM

I got ambushed with a purple dye aerosol spray..

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 04:12 PM

Isn't it a shame Mrrzy that potential employers can't see past a person's exterior? One's hair colour shouldn't matter should it?
There must be lots of formally-presented, immaculate candidates who are actually totally unsuitable for a post.
You do sound very positive though, which I'm so pleased to note.
Keep going my friend!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 03:15 PM

Why this 11-year-old is getting injections to block puberty

This article relates to a TV documentary which will go to air tonight. I'm not sure if people outside of Oz would be able to view it on iView after it airs.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:28 PM

They can remove breast buds surgically so they don't grow, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 07:15 PM

Hi Mrrzy,

Was your hair damp when you applied the chalk. Also if you have darker hair it wouldn't show up as brightly as it would on lighter hair. More like a purple sheen than bright purple.

I'm not sure about the surgery options. The medical profession is very clever these days.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Charmion
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 10:43 AM

Mrrzy, that kind of surgery is often barred by the ethics code of state and provincial medical associations except in very rare cases, and the onus is very much on the patient (or, more correctly, the patient's parent or guardian) to prove that it is in the patient's best interest.

In Canada, the medical professions clearly prefer to avoid irreversible treatment for gender dysphoria in any person who has yet to reach the age of majority. Huge malpractice liability is thus ducked.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 03:07 PM

Charmion, I agree with that. An adult decision should be made by the person when s/he is an adult. Otherwise it is a legal minefield.

It's tough for the young adults having to wait to take control of their lives but I think there should be legal capability to make a decision on their own behalf.

The TV documentary link is here:

Four Corners: Not a boy, not a girl

Look for that title which was aired 3 March 2020.

It will only be available for a limited time and I really don't know if it can be viewed from outside of Australia. The link I posted before to the news article will cover most of what is discussed in the documentary.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 03:45 PM

Nipping boobs in the bud came up in that horrible "pillow angel" case where a family kept a disabled daughter from becoming an adult so they could care for her. It was gross.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 04:04 PM

God/Creator help us all. How low can some people go and still be called human?

I have not heard of that case, but please don't tell me. I've heard of enough other cases to last a lifetime.

Did you try the hair chalk again? Some people lighten a bit or all of their hair to white or blonde so that the colour shows up better. I'm "lucky". My hair is starting to go white from above my forehead and near my temples so the bright colours work really well on that part.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 05:22 PM

Being gender FREE is a much better term than gender neutral, don't you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 06:30 PM

Depends - I am not gender-free, I am either nonbinary or bigendered. Which is not big-end-ered.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Helen
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 07:12 PM

I get the concept of non-binary now. We don't all have to fit into one or the other category of gender, or the multitude of places along that continuum. Non-binary is neither one nor the other. To paraphrase what one of the people in the documentary said, what difference does it make to other people anyway?

You are what you are. We are all what we are.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 08:18 AM

I am more both than neither, so the third-person They is kinda grammatical, includes both my inside and my outside!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 09:27 AM

In real life, I will mess up pronouns like crazy, no matter how much respect I have for people. In writing, I don't have so much of a problem. Typing filter better than mouth filter. Bottom line for me is that people would get to define themselves. Names (as in "my name is ____, but I prefer to be called ____." and gender and what clothes they want to wear or haircuts or politics or music or... you know. Their own stuff.

Every single person we meet on any given day is going to be different from everyone else. It makes my life easier if I see things like that. No round pegs or square holes. Just a pile of jigsaw puzzle pieces.

And one big problem we have with people and gender, IMO, is language. When I first started learning French, I was amazed that even objects had genders. There ARE gender neutral languages.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:03 PM

Jeri, we have something in common.
As fascinated as I am with languages,
gender absolutely defeats me in language.
Native speakers of languages other than English,
languages that have genders, have attempted to explain to me
what it's like to take for granted that places, things, and concepts, as well as persons, have genders.
And I just totally give up. I doubt that it will ever have sense to me.

Mrrzy, was Virginia part of Super Tuesday
or does Virginia's presidential primary election come later?

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:28 AM

We voted yesterday. Biden won though most people I know voted for Bernie.

Virginia does not register by party so republicans and independents can vote in the democratic primary if they so choose. Don't think many do, though.

French having gender doesn't bother me but German having neuter and then a)not using it for all inanimate objects and b)using it for young women (! Female virgins are neuter!) does. But there is no third-person neutral pronoun in French so him and her are used for inanimate objects, so I'm way more ok with being misgendered in French... As female as a fork/male as a
knife, fine.

Hungarian has no gender. They have words for gendered beings like man or woman, stallion or mare etc, but no grammatical gender and no gendered pronouns, not that they use a lot of pronouns anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:43 AM

Genders in languages are an absolute scourge to decline (I'd really like to 'decline' them!) German was very hard for me to get to grips with. "Der die das den dem deren dessen ein eine einen einer einem" blah blah blooming blah!
Mandarin and Cantonese are blissful, having no definitive articles at all. One merely says 'Horse black' or 'Cat on sofa' etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:50 AM

My sister was a militant LGBT activist with some influence and power
in her regional city based community..
We were never sure if she was primarily Gay, Bi, or Asexual celibate...???

She died a few years before Transgender identity issues
became so prominent in mainstream media and culture..
But I feel fairly certain she would have felt compelled to latch on
and promote herself to prominent spokesperson...

We didn't get on too well because although I was reasonably progressive, well informed
and sympathetic to her cause,
I found her to be quite an obnoxious individual in her hostility to 'straight' society...

It complicated the usual normal sibling antagonisms...

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 06:09 AM

Mrrzy, have you heard the song that Ireland is presenting for the Eurovision Song Contest? It's excellent, and the video (on Youtube) expresses so well the right people have to present themselves as they wish.
The song is called 'Story of My Life' and the singer is Lesley Roy.
Hope Ireland wins with this song!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 02:17 PM

I shall have to check it out, and Helen's suggestion as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 12:22 PM

Here comes Daylight Saving Time,
hopping down the bunny trail --

oops, that doesn't work.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Mar 20 - 08:10 PM

nothing new to say but
keep on keeping on.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Mar 20 - 10:02 AM

You too babe!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Mar 20 - 05:46 PM

Mrrzy, are you enjoying
the daylight being around longer in the evenings?
I know that I am.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Mar 20 - 07:23 PM

Still thinking of you both. Dew yew keep a-troshing and moind yer hids!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 09:26 AM

It is my birthday today! Entering my 60th year...

Still fine, too. If I have thoughts I wish I didn't, I think it's just habit. I had been down for a loooong time.

And the lovely evenings are marvy. Got stood up last night, sigh, but really enjoyed the walk home in the not-dark-yet crepuscular warmth.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 03:01 PM

Happy birthday, Mrrzy!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Mar 20 - 03:20 PM

Hope you have a pleasant St. Patrick's Day
for all that convivial gatherings
will be dampened from cancellations and postponements.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Mar 20 - 11:26 PM

Pi day and solstice party were canceled but not the st pat's thing... Yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Apr 20 - 08:56 AM

Still fine, but...

...the 16th was mom's birthday, here is the thread on her obit: https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=146189&messages=57

And today is the anniversary of dad's death by terrorism, back in 1983. You can check this out: https://www.iranrights.org/memorial/story/33089/albert-n-votaw

Miss'm both, every day.

Lots of family emails this week. Both still have a living brother, I still have 3 sisters. And you guys. Love you all.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Severn
Date: 18 Apr 20 - 01:32 PM

I haven't been around Mudcat much these days, but I want to add my support,friendship and good wishes to someone I have always liked posting with on various threads over the years. I'm out here rooting for you and wishing you the best......

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Apr 20 - 07:30 PM

T. S. Eliot could have been thinking of you, Mrrzy,
when he wrote that
April is the cruelest month of the year ...
and yet you have been through worse,
and you are still with us.
Don't go away now.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Apr 20 - 07:42 PM

Thanks, both of you... Severn! Hi!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 05:53 PM

Mrrzy, note that Anne Lister is planning another
Quarantine Concert (live streaming folk music).

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:02 PM

Think positive,
no matter what warning signals
you may be sensing --
if only in order to
gird your loins against what may be coming.
Hang in there!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 08:41 AM

You too my friend. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 01:08 PM

Do I read right, Mrrzy,
that you will be teaching eventually this year --
that you have EMPLOYMENT?
I hope I got that right --
and if it's true,
hooray for you!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 01:40 PM

Best wishes,

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 09:50 PM

Not *gainful* employment, it's volunteer, but yeah, I'm faculty again! I'm [virtually] home!

Virtual in both senses: almost, and online.

I am still *fine* and it's been since late Feb, so, yay! Still don't trust it, but enjoying it all the way to all the places I'm not actually going...

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jul 20 - 08:14 PM

It’s been lovely getting to meet you Mrrzy on Monday evenings on zoom!
Keep on keeping on. x

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Jul 20 - 10:58 PM

Thanks Noreen...

In other news my nephew, his wife, and all 4 of their kids, all in Israel which reopened schools, are apparently sicker than dogs and awaiting testing. My sister, in DC, is frantic.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 08:31 PM

Volunteer it may be,
but at least you have got across a 'virtual' threshold,
so you have made progress.

What a shame about your nephew and his family;
I hope your sister
has plenty of support from you and others.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 09:17 AM

Just in, all tests negative.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 09:48 AM

. . . so now they just have to get treatment
and start feeling better ... we hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 10:44 AM

Circle the wagons, everybody.

(see "stay afloat" thread post)

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 11:23 AM

Thanks, keberoxu!

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 01:50 PM

See 'check-in Mudcatters worldwide' thread for reference, and:

congratulations, Mrrzy,
on testing negative for COVID-19 after quarantining.

Subject: RE: BS: Thoughts for Mrrzy
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Aug 20 - 09:59 PM

... but, Mrrzy, one thing confuses me.

Which is "Scaramouche" --
the metaphorical hamster,
or the metaphorical hamster-wheel?
Or is he only "Scaramouche"
when he gets going on the hamster-wheel??