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BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?

Nick 08 Feb 20 - 06:48 AM
Nick 08 Feb 20 - 06:59 AM
Donuel 08 Feb 20 - 07:11 AM
Stilly River Sage 08 Feb 20 - 09:53 AM
Nick 08 Feb 20 - 10:59 AM
punkfolkrocker 08 Feb 20 - 11:36 AM
Nick 08 Feb 20 - 11:57 AM
Nigel Parsons 08 Feb 20 - 02:54 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 02:54 PM
Nick 08 Feb 20 - 03:07 PM
punkfolkrocker 08 Feb 20 - 03:18 PM
Stilly River Sage 08 Feb 20 - 04:56 PM
Donuel 08 Feb 20 - 05:02 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 05:13 PM
Donuel 08 Feb 20 - 05:25 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 05:35 PM
John MacKenzie 08 Feb 20 - 05:36 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 05:39 PM
Donuel 08 Feb 20 - 05:44 PM
Steve Shaw 08 Feb 20 - 06:16 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 07:08 PM
Steve Shaw 08 Feb 20 - 07:56 PM
Steve Shaw 08 Feb 20 - 08:00 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 08:04 PM
Steve Shaw 08 Feb 20 - 08:21 PM
Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 08:23 PM
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Joe Offer 08 Feb 20 - 09:41 PM

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Subject: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nick
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 06:48 AM

Is this allowed? Fairly obvious that someone is doing it who likes to post as various people. It's very bizarre behaviour in the context of a discussion to my mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nick
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 06:59 AM

I presume that


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 07:11 AM

Yes and no. For about 6+ months nefarious user/users have the capability to edit and change PM's and posts simply to sow discord

If you get a sudden red box question to upload files...
Never allow mudcat to upload files to your computer.

This has been my experience. Do not expect actual help.

Ignore is a good defense when something is out of the ordinary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 09:53 AM

Mudcat doesn't do that, Don. Do you have good antivirus software and something like Malwarebytes to run in realtime and keep an eye on things? And a request to "upload files" would be to remove data from your computer, are you sure that's what you're seeing? Then the malware seems to be very polite in asking first?

Nick, the old troll is no longer a member so can't post below the line at all, but comes back regularly to the music section and posts that way. If you see one, send a note to a moderator, though we catch them pretty regularly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nick
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 10:59 AM

It's above the line. I'll see if they continue (they have for quite some time but only in specific circumstances) and see if it continues to bother me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 11:36 AM

Can I ask if THE TROLL is a Brit or American..
I don't need to know.. just curious...

I haven't a clue if and when said troll is posting..
I don't know the identifying traits...???

Also.. any "anonymous GUEST" who has a go at me, is fair game for my sarcastic fight back..
I know I shouldn't respond..

But I have few pleasures in life these days...


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nick
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 11:57 AM

See what happens. Probably the sort of person who would have a cat called Milly. Don't even know why it irritates me but it does.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 02:54 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Donuel - PM
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 07:11 AM

Yes and no. For about 6+ months nefarious user/users have the capability to edit and change PM's and posts simply to sow discord


I wasn't aware that anyone could change personal messages. If this is true (although I generally consider Donuel's posts as 'dubious') then it should be reconsidered.
Posts, on individual threads, may be subject to revision. I admit that I've got access to revise/delete comments about the BBC's "Singing Together" booklets. An ability which I take great care to use judiciously.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 02:54 PM

For about 6+ months nefarious user/users have the capability to edit and change PM's and posts simply to sow discord

Please note that Donuel is viewing Mudcat from another dimension. The above is not true for any of us living real life.

Same with the "sudden red box question to upload files."

This phenomenon exists only in the Donuel Dimension. [spooky space music playing in background]

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Nick
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 03:07 PM

Tee hee


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 03:18 PM

He saw something we didn't...

thread.cfm?threadid=167281&messages=5


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 04:56 PM

PFR, I sent you a PM.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:02 PM

Stilly, It only happened once so I don't know if it said down or up but by reason it was probably download. After reseting the computer there was no harm or foul.

After the beard bruce incursion and 3 separate wild accusations by PM they were edited to sound benign. The FBI followed up after the complaint by bb claiming that I revealed Judge Cavanugh's address of 18 Brewski lane Potomac MD. It was a delightful and courteous experience. The lead agent was only 1 inch shorter than Comey. He was training a kid. Since they drove up in a black Buick Century I greeted them first by saying "I see you are the FBI" before they could even reach for their flip badges.
Upon leaving I heard him say to the kid "They are not all this easy".
My wife was bit miffed however.

Joe. sorry you had a tedious and more boring life.
Still, you have an equivalent to a PHD+ in musicology the more I see what you have done and do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:13 PM

Well, I had my interesting experiences as a civil service investigator for OPM....like the old man who opened the door to me, wearing nothing below the waist.

I hope you were suitably clothed for the FBI, Donuel.


-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:25 PM

I was already on the porch early that morning.
Alot has changed, for example OMB now has as many layers of security as the White House (but much more than Mara Lago)


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:35 PM

I had a date with an FBI agent once, or at least I thought I did. Somewhere along the course of the date, I found out she was just a record searcher. We didn't hit it off and never went out again, but not for that reason. We just didn't have anything in common except that we were in Sacramento and went to Catholic high schools that were almost next door to each other in Milwaukee.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:36 PM

During my short tenure as a Mod, I witnessed the same person posting things, and then answering themselves in the same thread, under a different name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:39 PM

Yeah, that was an interesting episode, John. If it's the one I'm thinking of, he has had a very positive presence here for at least the last ten years.
Trolls are people, too.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 05:44 PM

Joe you went to Seminary didn't you?
The one thing I missed, besides surprise, from my 12 years as a hypnotist were the confessions people were anxious to give.
It was a gift of remarkable trust unequaled thereafter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 06:16 PM

"Positive presence" my arse. Anyone doing what John said should have been permanently banned. It's bad enough that you can come here and be anonymous without good reason - and there never is a good reason. No there bloody isn't so don't try to to tell me that there is. But out-and-out dishonesty is just total shit. God knows why Max-plus-mods put up with it when it gives them a ton of extra pointless work to do. You wanna post here? Join the club, sign in and let the mods at least know your real name. You know it makes sense. "Guest" is the dirtiest word here by far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 07:08 PM

Heah, Donuel, I was in a Catholic seminary for 8 years when it was a 12-year program. I completed high school and college there.

In my 25 years as a government investigator, I was surprised how often people wanted to confess to me. Don't know if it was my seminary training, or the person's perception of my "authority" as an investigator, or what. Whatever the case, I listened, and they felt better afterwards.

Steve, I can see how it might be difficult for you to travel through life....

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 07:56 PM

And regard this as a preemptive strike: I don't want to hear "guests" giving me bullshit about how they're scared of being out there in public for this, that or the other fake reason. That's just stupid ego. My name is Steve Shaw, I'm open about where I live and anyone here could find out in a heartbeat where to send my Christmas card or poison pen letter or even pay me a visit (kettle's on...), I post controversially here all the time about all sorts of things, including attacks on the far-right. I don't get trouble. That's maybe a bit extreme, but it's true. I'm not saying that everyone should post under their real name. Use your soubriquet (though, personally, I don't know why you bother...), but the mods should know your real name and should have all your contact details. That's wot I fink and I'm sticking to it. I campaigned a few years ago for guestlessness below the line. If nothing else, it now means that the idiot who called Jim and me Jew-haters can now only do that in the cold light of non-anonymous day. And guess what. He doesn't do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 08:00 PM

Don't be such a complete arsehole, Joe. Your postings and private messages (I have lots from you, going back almost four years, so don't deny it...) reveal you to be a crazy, mixed up feller. And I'm hardly the first to notice that, am I?


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 08:04 PM

Damn! And all this time, I was thinking I was relatively normal. It's true, though, that I really don't know how to deal with angry people.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 08:21 PM

Would you like me to post here your totally unforced "Fuck you, Stevie" PM, Joe? Trouble is, Joe, it's you wot's angry. Me, I see Mudcat as a very interesting place to come to, but a place wot's not real life. It helps me to stay un-angry. More than can be said for you, old chap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 08:23 PM

As I said [privately] in the personal message Steve refers to:
    Keep the personal animosity in personal messages, Stevie.
    Bitch.
    -Joey-

I'm outa this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 08:38 PM

Just as well you're out of it, isn't it? You said a lot more, of course, as you know, but only in extremis would I divulge your dirty linen. We aren't quite at that point yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Multiple identities on threads allowed?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 09:41 PM

What can I say? You bring out the bad side in me, sweetie. But actually that's all I said in that [private] personal message. The rest was a quote from you. Other messages I sent to you were rather boring, but I decided to get a little risqué with that particular message. Little did I think you would use it against me. It was meant in fun.
Joey


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