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Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???

Mr Red 11 Feb 20 - 07:29 AM
Mossback 11 Feb 20 - 08:34 AM
Stilly River Sage 11 Feb 20 - 09:47 AM
Mossback 11 Feb 20 - 11:31 AM
punkfolkrocker 11 Feb 20 - 01:25 PM
Steve Shaw 11 Feb 20 - 04:59 PM
Senoufou 11 Feb 20 - 06:51 PM
Steve Shaw 11 Feb 20 - 07:42 PM
punkfolkrocker 11 Feb 20 - 09:40 PM
Dave the Gnome 12 Feb 20 - 02:31 AM
DaveRo 12 Feb 20 - 02:32 AM
Mr Red 12 Feb 20 - 03:40 AM
Senoufou 12 Feb 20 - 04:05 AM
Mr Red 12 Feb 20 - 09:28 AM
Senoufou 12 Feb 20 - 09:51 AM
Iains 12 Feb 20 - 10:19 AM
punkfolkrocker 12 Feb 20 - 11:53 AM
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Mr Red 13 Feb 20 - 05:52 AM
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Subject: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 07:29 AM

Android & Firefox

1) intially nothing, even visiting Fakebook account. Until:
2) messenger app was insistent on being installed.
3) notifications clutter at all times, until removed
4) uninstalled messenger, message notifications still appear
5) Fakebook not in a hidden tab in Firefox, notifications still appear
6) nothing in Firefox or Android as AddOns or installations refer to Fakeboook or messenger
7) web search hasn't revealed solutions to this specific scenario, and offered answers do not fit the problem.
8) I can block notifications from individual conversations, but I don't use or want to use Fakebook on Android, so any that I start on a PC will presumably invoke Android notifications as the recipient responds. Until blocked on Android!

Any ideas?

The only saving grace is that the phone in question has no SIM, but being large screen is useful at times on WiFi.
I mainly use it as an OSGR indicator and my local .htm files with loadsa JavaScript can use the OSGR to indicate nearby Bench Marks.

IME anything Fakebook does, is engineered to lock you in, or nag you sensless. THEY AIN'T GONNA WIN THIS ONE.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mossback
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 08:34 AM

Congratulations! You've just been Zucked by Fuckerberg & he's laughing his head off.

Just like the U.S. is about to be Zucked by his paid-for Trumpist lies policy.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 09:47 AM

You can do a couple of things. Three, actually.

Completely quit Facebook. I have one friend who managed to do that (and whom I never hear from any more).

Get "Facebook Purity" or "Fluffbuster Purity" in the FB domain and start constraining everything Facebook tries to do that Facebook won't let you constrain yourself. (Search for "Fluffbuster Purity" because Facebook won't let anyone discuss Facebook Purity - those posts disappear) and don't search in your regular browser window because there are fake FBP apps out there. Bummer. I have it installed in both Chrome and Firefox, and you need to set it up individually in each browser.

Three. Learn to use the Facebook settings and go in and check them regularly. You should be able to turn off notifications if you go into the various setting panels and start looking to see what they do.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mossback
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 11:31 AM

Oh lordy, NO! Whatever you do, don't quit Farcebook! Where would you get your lies and fake news and white supremacist updates?

Most importantly, Zuck desperately needs your money.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 01:25 PM

Every now and then, some well meaning person suggests I should go on facebook...

Today an assistant in cash converters said I should look at "market place" on facebook..

I think that was his smart arse way of telling me
to eff off out of his shop..

[probably not payed enough to answer customer questions..???]...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 04:59 PM

Years ago, I couldn't read a close friend's FB tributes after he died unless I joined. I was a member for a full approx. two weeks, one day to read the tributes and the rest to extricate myself. Avoid.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Senoufou
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 06:51 PM

Steve, how strange you've just posted that! Because I too have 'just joined' the blooming thing, having sworn blind I never would. The reason is I'm trying to trace a cousin of mine, and his profile on there is evidently him. So I joined (no photo or personal details though) and left him a message. My husband is on there and there are literally hundreds of pics of him in various sporty clothes!
If I get no reply after a day or two, like you I'll close it down.
The funny thing is that this cousin and I have never met, but he's in the BNP (!!!), is horribly racist and covered in extreme tattoos about Newcastle United Football Club. I'm tempted to post a pic of my (very) black husband! That should shock him rigid tee hee.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 07:42 PM

Not for me to say but it sounds like a quest not worth pursuing. Good luck with getting out of it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Feb 20 - 09:40 PM

Ok, last year I created a facebook account on one PC using my internet shopping email,
just so I can enter manufacturers and retailer's win a guitar, etc, competitions,
from links they email me..

Apart from that I never look in..

Must say, I've never suffered any notifications in Chrome.. so far...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 02:31 AM

I'm on Facebook. Can't say as it worries me particularly. Privacy set to friends only. Notifications off for everything but things I want to be notified about. I take no notice of trolling and flamebait. Pretty much like on here. It's very useful for keeping in touch with distant friends and family.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: DaveRo
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 02:32 AM

According to this (may be paywalled:
Even if you remove the mobile Messenger app (and do not delete your Facebook account), your Facebook friends can still send you messages when you are logged into the desktop version of the site.
So sign out. Or does that not work?

I don't use FB, so I've not seen their notifications, but you should be able to turn them off. I'm not sure if that applies to Android, but I think so.

Or use another browser for FB. You could try the new beta Firefox browser which is in the store as 'Firefox preview'. (It'll replace the current one eventually, but it doesn't do addons, yet.)

Failing all that I'd resort to script blocking.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 03:40 AM

I don't know that I have found the solution, because I don't message very often.
*************
In Android Notifications "Messenger" was still there despite an uninstall. So I uninstalled "Messenger Notifications"
- but there was still a "Messenger Lite" without an uninstall option.
*************
The warning here must be, if Fakebook wants you to install the "Messenger" app on Android, it will install more than one app.


I never "like" posts - if I have an opinion it is usually a joke and thence a reply. AI has difficulty categorising humour. As evident from the Ads it sends. Which disappeared for a long time because I always delete them as "Irrelevant".

The old adage that Fakebook keeps people in touch is the reason I have an account. My family are in Canada & NZ - and they use Fakebook rather than e-mail - so I have to. Plus sessions and Folk Clubs often have an account, which is a conduit to check on data for mister.red


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Senoufou
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 04:05 AM

I'm giggling here, because most of what you've all written is totally incomprehensible to me. 'Apps', 'uninstall' 'paywall' 'android' 'flamebait'. Might as well be in Chinese!
I think you're right Steve, because my (much more sensible and savvy) sister warned me about this cousin. She laughed and said to send him a pic of husband in his Norwich City tracksuit. Black, an immigrant and the wrong football team! The cousin lives in Wallsend, and apparently rather fierce folk live there. He'd probably block me within minutes!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 09:28 AM

'Apps', - bit like using a car/bus/taxi - except the driver inspects your every move!
'uninstall' - when you tell the driver to stop, and you getoutathere!
'paywall' - you can't get on the bus without paying.
'android' - not as good as Apple if you are gullible enough to swallow marketing hype.
'flamebait'. Like the front page of "Hello" or "Men Only" magazines. (Other "Hunky Maleshots" are available). Except buying into it, tells them much about you. There ain't no plain brown wrapper here!
'Apple' - see Android :)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Senoufou
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 09:51 AM

Hahahaaaaa! Thank you Mr Red, they all sound pretty dodgy to me. Luckily I haven't given any details for my 'profile' (is that the word?) but the site keeps telling me to take a picture with my webcam (eh? Is that a camera fixed to one's computer? It would catch me eating crumpets if so!)
Half of Africa 'follows' my husband, and I do wonder if he's being wise about security. It tells where he works, what area he lives in, and so on. And he posts so many photos of himself posing around Norfolk/Norwich in various get-ups, which all his mates and family in Ivory Coast comment upon.
I can't see the point myself. "This is me in my T-shirt and loose trousers." "This is me in another T-shirt and some more trousers" "This is me sitting on the sofa eating yet another crumpet" etc etc etc.
What would people want to look at all that for? Yawn...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Iains
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 10:19 AM

Very easy to join facebook. Leaving is a bit of a challenge.
I preferred the site that closed not so long ago "Friends United". It did not get in your face near as much as farcebook. But having said that, Facebook does make it easy to have instant worldwide contact with friends, former colleagues and relatives.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Feb 20 - 11:53 AM

It's a good job I'm an asocial recluse...

Though I did respond to a post card invite from next door neighbours
to join "Nextdoor"..

Handy for bookmarking local builders, etc,
and for the mrs to be nosy about goings on
within a few streets of our house...

"ooh.. I know her.. / That's that house where... / That bloody cat is always shitting by our front door, hope they never find it.. /
Told you they were doing that../ That's why the police and ambulance were outside their house.. / and so on.....
"


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 04:32 AM

Hahahaa punkfolkrocker! I'm the nosiest person alive, but my need to know everything is easily satisfied here in our small village. We have a super village shop with a little tea room, and the gossip in there is stupendous. Also we know all our neighbours, and get the latest news from everyone the minute it happens. No need for a neighbourhood internet site thing.
That's why I love village life in a rural county like Norfolk.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 05:52 AM

Probably too late, but Fakebook does not need your real birthdate. It wants it, to build a profile. Mine makes me 40 years old, so adverts are geared to things I would not be interested in.

But seriously, your exact birthdate is mandatory on some websites like banking and health. Why give the miscreant a sure-fire vector that with other stupidities like answering shared posts about your first pet's name etc, they can triangulate on banking or credit card details. They only have to win once in 1000 to make it pay, which might be over the phone. As long as it is not you!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 06:20 AM

Oh dear Mr Red, I think I'll cancel my Facebook then. My racist BNP cousin hasn't replied to my private message, and probably that's for the best. Maybe I'll get some more Hot Russian Ladies in my Spam emails, re-directed from Facebook.
Honestly, some of the photos people post are not in the least interesting. Even my sister, just her standing in front of some mountain, or in some glen, or by some loch or other. Can't say it's particularly riveting!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Fakebook message notifications remove???
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 07:11 AM

I avoided the internet completely until 1999,
because all I was aware of were folks like my sister posting cat photos,
and short romantic fiction about their favourite TV series characters..

I saw no use for the internet until musicians started using it...


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