BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 07:06 AM

I'm sorry if you missed it, Nigel. That's what comes of giving people a long time to respond: other stuff gets in the way and it gets lost. But never mind, it was this post I was referring to.


Date: 11 Apr 20 - 01:13 PM

Perhaps Nigel would like to analyse the difference between what Priti Patel said in the nightly press conference:

I’m sorry if people feel that there have been failings.

and what most people wanted to hear:

I'm sorry if there have been failings.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 06:41 AM

No comment on what Priti Patel's chosen phrase meant, though, I see.
There was no mention of a comment by Priti Patel in the post I was responding to. Also a quick check on the most recent page (50) of posts also finds no mention.
What chosen phrase are you asking about?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 06:27 AM

Morning all.

Er, Maggie, the very first post in the clapping thread politicised the issue of applauding the NHS by accusing us of virtue-signalling, but you didn't stop it then, did you? And you know full well why this thread is a "hot mess." You three have all blatantly allowed for years now a detestable, planted far-right troll to post his bile and serially fail to engage properly in any discussion at all, and you've compounded that with frequent victim-blaming. No Iains, no hot mess. Carry on, I'm done with that line of enquiry as long as you desist from making further unjustified accusations.

On to Nigel now:

"I think that's backwards. The government has an 80 seat majority because the opposition is ineffective."

Nope. The government has an 80-seat majority because it roundly defeated the PREVIOUS opposition in an election. The current opposition still has a large number of MPs, many of which are new, and has a new leader, deputy leader and cabinet with a very different complexion to the last opposition. This opposition has not been tested in an election, so your comment is simply nonsensical. It remains to be seen how effective this opposition will be, but it's making a good start in m'humble with its challenges to the government over the appalling handling of Coronavirus. It's utterly inane at this early stage of this parliament, especially in view of the crisis we're living through, to accuse the opposition of being ineffective. Your ideology is getting in the way of rational thought, Nigel.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 06:06 AM

There can be no effective opposition when the government has an 80 seat majority.
I think that's backwards. The government has an 80 seat majority because the opposition is ineffective

Even if that is/were true, it would not alter the correctness of the original, which was, I think, the point of making it. In the current position, all responsibility lies with the majority party and the government.

No comment on what Priti Patel's chosen phrase meant, though, I see.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 06:01 AM

We look forward to you supplying copious examples of my alleged racism.
It is a figment of your deluded anglophobic racist imagination unless you can provide actual posts. But of course you cannot. Your drivelling is getting rather repetitive and tiresome. Perhaps you need a another posting holiday.
You have yet to provide evidence to substantiate your constant slurs.
Any one else posting such a repetitive stream of lies would be suspended. Teribus was removed for far lesser sins.
OOOh but you have been. For a considerable period of time as well!
What level of conceit is it that you have that you feel you can make wild accusations about people with nothing to back it up? Do you have some sort of personality defect that forces you to come on this forum and constantly insult all who disagree with you? You repeat this behaviour above the line, below the line, cause innumerable threads to be closed yet you have learnt nothing. What does it take to penetrate that space between your ears. Many other people have leveled the same accusations against you. Are you going to be a thickheaded donkey all your life, or make some attempt to reform.
You are the one with the problem, not me. Instead of seeking encouragement from the rest of the troublemakers on this forum I suggest you listen to what many others keep trying to tell you. You are like a wayward child that simply will not listen.
I have not forgotten the disgusting post of yours on the Keith obituary threade that caused its instant closure. You really are a most unpleasanr person.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 05:56 AM

Can we be clear on this issue of racism
During the Brexit campaign Britain released the race/populist genii from its bottle - two evils in one bundle
Having done so and brought an acceleration of racism in Britain as it has, the leaders seem to have realised the consequences and rather than allow it to develop into a race war, as, given the attitude of some of the new crowd that have sprung up, those have opted to play race down as an issue, at least until they are ready to use it again
They are in a lose-lose situation with this enquiry - if the results are inconclusive, as they inevitably will be that will not please the die hard racists and they will be accused of hiding the figures
If it proves, as has been claimed by former politicians, that there are no grounds for claiming a connection between Islam and peadofilia - they will be accused of lying
The British Parliament now has the highest number of members from 'other race' backgrounds than it ever has - Muslim included
If Iains and his like are to be believed we have suspect paedofiles represnting the British people - including Javid, wh has a Musliim background and is active in working with Muslims - all suspected paedofiles
This is the level these racists are operating at
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 05:55 AM

There can be no effective opposition when the government has an 80 seat majority.
I think that's backwards. The government has an 80 seat majority because the opposition is ineffective.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 05:45 AM

900

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 05:16 AM

" elephant in the room!"
Neanderthal bigotry is, I think the term being searched for
Your racism has been fully rejected with dates and details
Your refusal to respond is certainly enlightening but not entertaining
Give it a rest
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Barb'ry
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 05:05 AM


Just a gentle reminder - or not so gentle if that's what it takes - to keep the politics in this thread, please.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 04:50 AM

Good to see y'all running around and dodging the elephant in the room!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 04:40 AM

We may not have a one Party sytem but we have a permanent one-system system which immediately quashes any attempts to change the status quo
Whence the difference ?
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 04:28 AM

There can be no effective opposition when the government has an 80 seat majority. Isn't that what some people are gloating about? Crowing that Labour has no power and then complaining it is ineffective just highlights the wish to divert attention from the failings of the right.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 04:13 AM

Baccy
One or limited party systems are inevitable when a country is attempting to change a system rather than adapt an existing one - as long as those in charge stick to their aims and those aims are just, I see no reason why a one-party system can't be adopted until stability is established in countries taking a new direction

Let's face it, when the British Empire fell, many of the newly independent counties were taken over by despots with no intention of introducing democracies and Britain embraced them with open arms as 'a safe pair of hands', even going as far as deposing elected leaders like Nkruma because they wouldn't dance to the West's tune -
Patrice Lumumba was thrown out of a plane and fair-minded UN representative, Dag Hammarskjöld had his plane blown up

Cuba - 90 miles from the US coast and under permanent threat of invasion (attacked on one occasion) - their president underwent over 100 assassination attempts, organised or supported by the US and a volunteer army of exiles stood ready in Miami to turn Cuba back into the 'American open sewer' it once was and return the land into the hands of the six families who once owned all of it
Despite this and a still running embargo, they introduced the finest education and health system in Latin America and slowly managed to turn the state from a feudal dictatorship into modern relatively democratic democracy - in little more than half a century

North Korea was literally 'bombed into the stone-age' with many of its people forced to live in caves after it was invaded by The West

China turned a massive feudal Empire into the worlds greatest manufacturing power in a relative ly short time and turned feudal serfs into workers with fairly decent living standards overall

The Soviet Union turned a massive feudal empire into a progressive country - high education level, good health service and a constitution that guaranteed a home for all, depite being invaded by 14 countries (including Britain and America) immediatley it decalred Socialist aims, a |Civil War, a devastating and destructive scorched earth world war in which they lost more than any other nation (that included treatment by the Nazis comparable to they of the Jews) - and a Cold War that should have stunted its growth, but din't - forty years after their revolution they were throwing Sputniks into space and competing o the world stage

Vietmam fought Japan, France and worst of all the US to gain independence - beating them all
The Yanks poured burning petrol and carcinogenic chemicals onto their land and people for 14 years and forced their young women to have sex with animals for their entertainment - they are still pulling live land-mines out of the ground   

That things went wrong, sometimes because of human corruption, but mainly because of the siege conditions is true and sometimes avoidable, but it is hardly fair to compare it to a system like ours that is based on inequality and class division and has created the greatest ever gap between haves and have nots ever - still growing a a rate of knots

"just a couple angry people "
If the mods did their job, and showed a little respect for those they were working on behalf of rarthar than sometimes behaving like the trolls they should be able to control, maybe some of us wouldn't be as angry as we are
Jst a thought - keep well
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 03:43 AM

Just checked for a list of the kind of States that our Right-Wing-Extremist-Troll, in his desire to remove HM Opposition and have the UK become a One-Party State, would reduce this nation to:-

You do post some absolute unresearched garbage do you not?

If you care to look back you will see that I have said on several occasions that Democracy demands a viable opposition party.
(Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Jan 20 - 09:26 AM )

The problem is that Labour is a waste of space and self deatructing, and is therefore useless as an opposition.

Facts dear boy, facts.

As you are posting inflammatory statements that are demonstrably untrue it is clear it is you doing the trolling.
When you cannot counter a point of view you merely dismiss it as trolling. Rather pathetic behaviour doncha think?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 03:28 AM

Boris Johnson is a proven pathological liar. If he were a bloke in the pub everyone would dismiss anything he said as pure fantasy. The NHS is on its knees thanks to 10 years of cuts by the Tories. The inactivity of the current administration has caused thousands of needless deaths.

And all the right can come up with is any bit of gossip they can find to try to discredit a party that currently has no power.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 02:29 AM

Just checked for a list of the kind of States that our Right-Wing-Extremist-Troll, in his desire to remove HM Opposition and have the UK become a One-Party State, would reduce this nation to:-

(Source: Wikipedia)...

”As of April 2015, there are 11 states that are ruled by a single party:

China (Communist party, 8 registered minor parties)
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (AKA- North Korea) (Korean Workers' Party) - 2 minor parties that exist on paper only
Equatorial Guinea (Democratic Party of Equatorial Guinea)
Vietnam (Communist party)
Cuba (Communist party)
Eritrea
Western Sahara
Burma (the opposition parties are prevented from taking office)
Laos (Communist party)
Syria (Ba'ath Party)
Turkmenistan“

Not an impressive bunch to be a pert of is it? He really doesn’t have much of an ambition for his country, does he?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 02:23 AM

Pure Gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://www.docdroid.net/vUujX67/200329-labour-report-finalpdf-pdf#page=38

Now Starmer is calling for a report into this report that was likely designed to take flak away from the impending ECHR report.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 02:10 AM

From the Daily worker (The communist socialist rag)
JEREMY CORBYN was actively undermined by senior party HQ staff who said that “death by fire [was] too kind” for him, a leaked internal report has revealed.

The sickening language used while discussing the then Labour leader, left-wing MPs and ordinary members of the party was revealed when the report on Labour’s handling of anti-semitism in the party was leaked over the weekend.

The transcripts show that Mr Corbyn’s economic adviser Ali Moussavi said of Mr Corbyn to other senior staff in 2015: “We need to finish him.”

Hubble bubble toil and trouble!!
I cannot see the labour party smelling of roses when people have perused the 801 pages of the leaked report. Not even the Guardian can remove the foetid stench emanating from this epistle of woe.
The blasted heath beckons anew for labour.

Reading excepts from the report it is clear to see where the lead for the unsavoury comments on this forum come from. The lawyers will be rubbing their hands with glee very shortly. This could well cause massive splits within the party. Disintegration is likely to be the only legacy corbyn leaves for the labour party.

As Hurree Jamset Ram Singh was wont to say: The joyfullness is terrific

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 12:55 AM

Steve, regardless of if you argued with or against PFR, you were arguing in the wrong place. Keep it over in this hot mess of a thread.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:37 PM

Well.. who knows what the long term after effects of covid might be...?????

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:14 PM

Careful what you wish for, mate... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:01 PM

The funny thing is I used to get mocked back in the 1980s
for genuinely being a young male feminist 'new man'...

Such was the deep influence of the alternative / academic Leeds and Bristol
militant feminist culture,
which shaped my entry into adulthood,
and became forever ingrained in my being...

..gotta laugh.. eh...???

But if some American women now want to believe what they want to believe...

Just because I don't have a vagina...???

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:17 PM

Out of order, Jeri. Sleep well.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:16 PM

I fell out big time with pfr in that thread, Maggie, but you have unwittingly conspired to reunite us (we'd have done it anyway, as we're honourable EnglishMEN...Oops, slip of the caps lock there....or was it...) You are not a Brit and you clearly don't understand what an emotional issue our NHS is to us. You live in a country in which at least a tenth of you have no right to any healthcare at all, and in which the rest of you get only what you are lucky enough to be able to afford to pay for, yet we don't hear much of a fuss ever being kicked up your end. Well it's not like that here, and "NHS" means "politics" here, especially under the shower currently governing us. The thread you accuse us of going "off topic" in (wow, mortal sin...) started with a post that immediately would have alienated vast numbers of Brits, had vast numbers of Brits read it. I mean, "virtue signalling" my arse... Bejaysus, it even got me and pfr at each other's throats, though he and I can never remain that way for that long. The original poster is a proud Tory, and, just a few short years before I was born, the Tories bitterly opposed the founding of the NHS. If you live your side of the pond and choose to look at the superficiality of our posts on this topic, you won't get it. If you investigate instead the history of the politics behind the NHS, you just might. And if you did you'd let us get on with it instead of blundering in and shutting down the MEN who take issue over it. Oops, there goes that caps lock slip again...

And I love both you and pfr, dammit...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:01 PM

No, just a couple angry people in love with their own opinions, and fuck everybody else.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:42 PM

Steve - it's sooo simple..

The mod is right, we are all wrong - and very bad old white sexist British men, at that..

.. and mod get's the last word;
an absolute truth set in stone for all of future history...!!!!!

That is The Word of Mod...

Forgive us mod for we are sinners......

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:41 PM

This is so bad - because you can't see what you're doing. Your argument makes no sense. The other thread was a mess once people started arguing about the politics BEHIND the NHS. It was possible to keep the topics separate, but several of you insisted on mixing in politics and crossed the line. Now you're upset because the thread was closed after it was too difficult to simply take out the off-topic posts. And there were some good remarks in the posts deleted, but editing posts for content is not what happens - it's all or nothing.

You've all been in the house too long, and you're taking out on participants of threads here. Go for a walk in the garden, walk the dog, clean the basement or attic, do something else to refocus away from arguing. This is the only political thread on Mudcat for a reason.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 06:49 PM

So let me guess who the "pissed off mudelf" is. I'll tell you summat, pissed off mudelf. Threads wander all over the place here and long may they do so. In fact, I positively invite any thread of mine to go a-wandering where the divil it wants to. And I would just like to point out to you, lest you forgot, the pejorative undertones of the original post in that clapping thread:

Subject: BS: Clapping for the NHS
From: Senoufou - PM
Date: 09 Apr 20 - 03:18 PM

"I would just feel so silly doing any such thing. Of course I admire all NHS workers (they've just saved my sister's life up in Scotland) but this virtue-signalling, especially in an isolated village in Norfolk, strikes me as completely daft.

So you are protecting someone, via suggesting that some of us were going "off topic," who accused me and many thousands of others who simply want to come out and support the front-line workers who are putting themselves in harm's way of "virtue signalling". You didn't stop that particular bit of politicking in its tracks, did you? To compound that, you protect yourself by saying we shouldn't criticise the moderation (wow - what moderation!!), and by telling us to grow up! YOU telling US to grow up! You delete perfectly well-argued posts and posts that are civil and humorous, yet you allow a far-right puppet free rein in other threads to insult all and sundry without demur and then indulge in victim-blaming. How consistent of you.

This post will not survive. I support the moderators here and know what a tough job they have. But this is just so bad. Come back at me and bite my head off in front of everybody. I'm not scared. Or delete it. Your call, never my gig. But I'm copying this post and I will challenge you in private messages if I have to.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:54 PM

Nooooo. I told you my idea over there. Fart for Boris. The local farmer collects the any follow throughs to spread on his fields.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:41 PM

DtG - Was it your idea.. opening an upstairs front window, drawing back the curtains,

and..

..Mooning for boris...???

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:04 PM

So, yea, it's closed because it was political, PFR, and only one UK politics thread is allowed. So, let's discuss the NHS clapping on here. The one permitted politics thread. It has the advantage that sensitive souls keep away :-) The lesson to be learnt is keep politics on here. I hope others will learn not to whinge when threads that will obviously become political do!

I wonder if it's ok to have multiple threads on world politics?

Anyway, as I said over on the other one, I have my bodhran and tambourine ready for Thursday. I am very tempted to make a banner saying "This for the NHS. Not for those who wreck it" but no one would see it :-(

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:55 PM

Amazing Grace: They were blind and now they see.

Over here right wing propoganda was peddled as alternative facts and any rebutal of their fake news is called fake news.
Round and round the snake chases its tail while the truth of death is buried in mass graves.

There will be a modern day Cicero who will write a truthful history but a political party of any kind or colour will only try to rewrite history. In time all the partisan mirages will fade revealing the real landscape be it lakes or deserts. Truth is not momentary perception by human beings. It is bigger than that. All squabbling is fleeting.

There are several of you here more interested in long term solutions.
Good luck being heard or understood.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:35 PM

It would appear a leaked internal Labour party report commissioned at the fag end of Corbynism has caused a bit of a contretemps:
Entitled The work of the Labour party's Governance and Legal unit in relationship to antisemitism 2014 to 2019
The labour party April 2020
Starmer has announced an “independent inquiry” into the hyper-factional internal inquiry document:(851 pages)

    “We have seen a copy of an apparently internal report about the work of the Labour Party’s Governance and Legal Unit in relation to antisemitism. The content and the release of the report into the public domain raise a number of matters of serious concern. We will therefore commission an urgent independent investigation into this matter. This investigation will be instructed to look at three areas. First, the background and circumstances in which the report was commissioned and the process involved. Second, the contents and wider culture and practices referred to in the report. Third, the circumstances in which the report was put into the public domain.

    We have also asked for immediate sight of any legal advice the Labour Party has already received about the report. In the meantime, we ask everyone concerned to refrain from drawing conclusions before the investigation is complete and we will be asking the General Secretary to put measures in place to protect the welfare of party members and party staff who are concerned or affected by this report.”

Rumour has it that the Government Equality and Human Rights Commission has demanded a copy to aid in its ongoing enquirtry int oalleged Labour antisemitism

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:10 PM

I look forward to seeing exaamples of hate mail posted by myself.
What you really mean is that you deliberately misinterprete what I post in order to make me out to be some sort of extremist and then use it to attack.
Every time I challenge you to offer proof of your vile allegations y0u cannot. Either put up or shut up.
You really are a most despicable person

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 03:57 PM

UK scraps plans to buy thousands of BlueSky ventilators

The reminds me that we were told the the Dyson ventilators would be 'ready' by mid April, so I presume they are imminent. I also asked for a definition of what was meant by 'ready' but don't remember getting an answer.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 03:06 PM

"You never put up an argument.

Why should I? I post facts."


ie: right wing propaganda = facts..

oh.. those kind of facts...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 03:02 PM

Can I make something clear again
I'm not happy with blanking anybody out at the present time but there comes a point....
iains it entitled to express his vieew - everybody has to mae a few bob, I suppose, but not on a site of this nature
As I used to point out to the late Keith, British law makes spreading race and cultural hate illegal - maybe not in the US, but were'e talking British politics here - I'd no more stand silent and watch how Iains behaves tahn I would watching someone being attacked on the street - it was the Irish and Travellers, now he's added Muslims to his repertoire
When he ignore him, he cranks up his abuse - unmolested
From a purely selfish point of view, this is a music site - at one time far more Irsi=ish and a few Muslims posted to it
I knw Irish people who buggered off because of the typwe of abuse Iains doles out - If I was Muslim I wouldn'tt com near his postings without a protective suit (no use asking the Government - they haven't got enough to give those fighting to save us from the Dreaded Lurgi)

A simple fact MOSLEMS AREN'T THE CHILD RAPING PERVERTS IAINS AND HIS ILK WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE - THAT IS AN INDISPUTABLE FACT
If Iains continues to use this site to post hate mail - I will continue to attempt to prevent him from doing so - how cound I do other ?
It shouldn't be our job, but there you go...
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: peteglasgow
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 02:44 PM

you post a jolly wee ditty when i wrote about our friend dying with the virus.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 01:54 PM

You never put up an argument.

Why should I? I post facts. Do you expect me to argue with myself?
The arguments arise when the challenged among you dispute facts or simply are incapable of understanding them. That is not my problem,
Perhaps if you dispensed with the unfortunate fixation on turnipss you might get a grip. However I will not hold my breath.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 01:54 PM

Oh well.. anyone want to talk about.. oh forget it...

.. and it was closed just as I was about to post.....

"Btw.. A post can take some folks up to an hour or so to write,
a deletion mere seconds - and is forever..

.. who wouldn't complain...

Was it Hardy who employed a plot device of important messages not being seen
by the recipient, who never knew they were even sent..

Much misunderstanding and tragedy ensuing..."

---

Here's the last (edited) post in that closed thread where your off topic posts didn't belong and you should have stopped trying to argue your case for keeping the thread off topic . . . ---pissed off mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 01:48 PM

;-) ;-)

I don’t waste effort posting much, Steve, but I lurk, read, and split my sides laughing at the daft brainwashed Seaman-Staines’ Pawn. The same way I bet the other squaddies in his billet pissed themselves laughing at his megaphone-mouthed pomposity.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 01:26 PM

You beat me to that, John... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 01:19 PM

“I doubt he spends much time on his own original thinking...“

You’re making the rash assumption that he’s capable of original thought...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:51 PM

Steve - he's just importing in the pre-fab crap he copies from right wing internet influencers..
I doubt he spends much time on his own original thinking...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:32 PM

He doesn't get it. He can't refute the point I made about Naz, which I set alongside what he prattles on about with regard to election results that suit him. I mean, how many times has he burbled on about Boris's stonking 80 majority/words to that effect to show how mighty the Tories are, yet he can't account for Naz Shah's amazing success in Bradford West. Thing is, he's too busy desperately trying to dig dirt on her...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:30 PM

She is in good spirits and still using ice packs to bring her temperature down - the same ones she was given after her knee replacement in 2014!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:21 PM

Sound-bites from extreme right wing bloggers are not an argument.

You cannot find fault with them as they have no content or context, not because they are correct.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:07 PM

"When the argument cannot be refuted..."

You never put up an argument.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 12:01 PM

Bonzo......
That is good news.