BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 11:46 AM

How is she, Bonzo?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 11:33 AM

My wife has just found a Tesco delivery slot for Thursday, so we can eat for the next week!!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 11:23 AM

When the argument cannot be refuted the lefties resort to attempted bullying and then insults. And when everything else fails the accusation of trolling pops up.
You guys are a non stop comedy act. I can see I will need to post a cartoon strip as some have a total inability to understand what I say.
Shall I model it on the Dandy or the Beano?

Can I suggest that unless this is stopped then it's blanked otherwise this thread will crash and burn

Best follow your own advice then jimmie!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:57 AM

Serves you lot right for continuing to feed the troll. How many times.......nah, fuggeddit!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:42 AM

Why have you all let him drag you down into the mire of his Naz distraction...???

I know where he goes on youtube,
and the vile nature of the viewer comments on the videos he watches..
It's where his ideas get slaps on the back, Likes, and thumbs ups..

The current breaking topic co-ordinated over various nasty right wing channels
is an attack on the EU, how they want it to crumble under the weight of covid...

He's starting to regurgitate that bile here...

We can guess where the scripts for those videos originate...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:11 AM

Can I suggest that unless this is stopped then it's blanked otherwise this thread will crash and burn
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: peteglasgow
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:43 AM

hmmmm.....it takes scum to see scum..

could only a racist see racism?

so it would take a good person to see a good person?

it might take a 'lefty-pefty' to see a 'lefty-pefty'

obviously it would take a leftard to see a leftard

in other news - you smelt it so you must have dealt it?

to stretch it a bit could a swede see a turnip?

Oh for goodness sake, why are you just listing things? Is it achieving anything? Just more inflammatory gestures.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:36 AM

So we do have a corrupt Government and administration not even willing to protect the general public from paedofiles
A very interesting veiw from one of it's keenest supporter - Dom the Demolition man's been in touch, has he ?
Farage is less than scum - at least scum just lies there silently
He is a rabble-rousing rightist who came to fame spouting filth that got Powell drummed out of politics by his own party
If the mods are going to tolerate your promoting dangerous racism on this forum I'll make sure it is underlined for what it is
THE EXTREME LEFT BBC
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:31 AM

So you can't answer the questions about Naz and her rather spectacular electoral successes, precisely the kind of thing that YOU rattle on about apropos of your Tories (which is why I asked you). Nothing from you except sidetrack after sidetrack. You're all marf an' no trarsers, aren't you, Iains? Is your surname Shufflebuttocks?   :-)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 08:56 AM

If the findings are "not in the public interest" that indicated that, unless ewe have an oppressive and left wing Home Office, they are inconclusive

Utter rubbish!!!!! A petition to have the report released has obyained more than enough signatures that Parliament must discuss it.

Strange that an Italian MP calls for Farage to come and lend some sanity to EU deliberations.The coronavirus pandemic is likely to lead to a significant recession throughout Europe, with all countries spending more money than they can generate. Despite EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen urging member states to "invest whatever is necessary to have the economy going further", last week the bloc failed to reach a compromise on debt-sharing for the fourth time in a row. Nine EU countries - Spain, Italy, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Slovenia - are urging Brussels to issue eurobonds, otherwise called 'coronabonds' – a common debt instrument

However, Germany, the Netherlands, Austria and Finland are heavily opposed to the measure and resisting the calls.

They see it as potentially putting their taxpayers on the hook for the debt of other countries. Some union!!!!!!!!!

By the way addressing Farage as scum does nothing to aid discussion.
My take is that it takes scum to see scum.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 08:34 AM

If the findings are "not in the public interest" that indicated that, unless ewe have an oppressive and left wing Home Office, they are inconclusive
My point remains - at a time like this issued which are likely to exacerbate an already damaged society (buy scum like Farage making leaving Europe an issue of race) a division of our multi-racial society
Only they extremist right will attempt to benefit from this shit, as we can see here - most people, even the racially intolerant ones want us to come out of this crisis in one piece, if only out of self-interest
Nurse - the screens please
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:49 AM

Hmmm Naz Shah re-posted a comment before she became an MP. A daft thing to do for which she has apologised.

Our current PM has referred to people as having "watermelon smiles" referred to people as "Piccaninnes" has made derogatory remarks about people looking like "letterboxes" and referred to people as "tank-topped bum boys" amongst other things.

You can make your own minds up who is the more prolific offender.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:43 AM

Incidentally
The article on Javid is coming up to two years old - no result or interim report has appeared since

It is a dead parrot and a blot on Britain's history that it ever became an issue
Unresearched twaddle as per usual from the usual.
Now for some facts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-rotherham-review-home-office-findings-a9344896.html


Friday 21 February 2020 22:30
The government is refusing to release official research on the characteristics of grooming gangs, claiming it is not in the “public interest”.

Survivors accused ministers of making “empty promises”, while a man who prosecuted abusers in Rochdale called for the Home Office to “show some courage and publish” its findings.

It comes after The Independent revealed that almost 19,000 suspected child sexual exploitation victims were identified by local authorities in just one year, sparking renewed calls for prevention efforts.

Sajid Javid promised the review as home secretary in July 2018, pledging that there would be “no no-go areas of inquiry”.

“I will not let cultural or political sensitivities get in the way of understanding the problem and doing something about it,” he said at the time.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:22 AM

Or maybe we should ask the police to go around checking that all those clapping for our medical teams are the right ethnicity and colour ?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:20 AM

Incidentally
The article on Javid is coming up to two years old - no result or interim report has appeared since
Despite attempts to like ethnicity to these crimes, there has never been a shed of evidence of a connection other than by the thugs on the street and scum like Farage seeking to overcome their past failures   and climb the greasy political pole
It has been dismissed by The Police, by all respectable politicians, by those representing victims and the accused alike - from the moderate right to the far left
It is a dead parrot and a blot on Britain's history that it ever became an issue
Since it was first raised we have seen the National Front, the British National Party and UKip - all who attempted to replace political thought with racist rhetoric, limp into the shadows of society   
It is the air that neo-nazis like Criminal, Anders Behring Breivik sympathiser, Tommy Robinson thrive on
It really has no place here, especially when even Johnspn's Government is calling for the British People OF ALL RACES, COLORS, ORIGINS AND RELGIONS to work together
Can we put a stop to this now please
This is exactly what I was referring to earlier - let's act like human beings eh ???
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:13 AM

Why am I not surprised Shaw would dodge uncomfortable questions. The two links were an indication of where to look. Are you saying you are incapapble of research on the internet, besided being unable to construct links? For an opinionated fellow such as yourself I find this very hard to believe.
As for little jimmies links, as he insists on giving them daft titles I never open them.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:11 AM

Cheers, Jim. Note the abhorrent racism exhibited by the many of the comments after the article. Whaddya think of that, Iains? Or do you need longer to read it? Or are you too busy obsessively digging more dirt on Naz Shah?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 07:01 AM

A RATIONAL STATEMENT ON THE ISSUE BY THOSE IN THE KNOW
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 06:59 AM

Your first link is to the ethnicity of Bradford (careful now...they vote Labour there...) and your second one is to something I can't read unless I subscribe to a paper owned by a right-wing magnate. So there you go. Do you agree that Naz Shah does so well in elections (three times over, and getting better every time) because she's an excellent and well-loved MP? As you love to chuck your "facts and figures" at us all the time, would you like those three election results again? Or do you just want to continue to employ your standard diversionary buttock-shuffling, as in your last two posts?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 06:26 AM

Well shaw you as a self ptofessed well educated scientist, educationalist, blah dee blah dee blah, are as well capable of researching the topic as I am.

Now why do you think that enquiry into ethnic grooming gangs was hushed up?
and why did shah tell the victims to shut up?
Your turn: and provide links instead of meaningless burblings.
The facts will take us where they will and I am sure we can all see where they point, uncomfortable though it might be for some.
Prove me wrong!



https://ubd.bradford.gov.uk/media/1348/ethnicity-in-bradford.pdf


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sajid-javid-orders-research-into-ethnic-origin-of-sex-grooming-gangs-v97lc5mdk

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 06:02 AM

"Maybe not in Bradford West constituency."

Ah-ah. You don't get away with it that easily. Tell us why NOT in Bradford West. I'll kick off if you like: the constituency has an excellent, well-liked local MP called Naz Shah. Your turn. If it's NOT because Naz (the woman you love to denigrate but who you have yet to come up with a nickname for - careful now!) is an excellent and well-liked MP, what is it then? Something about the demographic of the constituency, perhaps? All a bit thick there, are they, or is it something a bit more sinister? I'm sure your fellow-travelling right-wingers have a theory about Bradford West to help you out here...

Now really. If you wish to continue to make a Big Thing of what you perceive to be Labour's disasters, you really ought to be able to explain this seemingly outstanding anomaly. Or shall we settle for Occam's razor here? That the constituency has an excellent and well-liked MP, namely Naz Shah?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:38 AM

Somebody's not listening! :-) Maybe not in Bradford West constituency.
But the 80 seat tory majority came from people that not only listen, but also think.

An interesting aside:The tame prof wheeled out by the media as nit picker in chief throughout the Coronavirus pandemic is Professor John Ashton
One has to detail the prof’s long history of radical leftism, including his self-professed 53 year’s of Labour Party membership.

Sky News must have recently changed their policy – for the better – introducing Ashton this morning as “the former president of the faculty of public health, Professor John Ashton; we should also say he’s also been a member of the Labour Party at various points”.

Ashton clearly hated this, blasting back “where did that stuff come about from the Labour Party, I am not a member of the Labour Party… I have not been in the Labour Party for over a year I don’t know where that’s come from… please don’t politicise this.” In line with academic research principles, one can cite Ashton’s own Twitter account as the source of this information…
I wonder when the BBC will follow suit when wheeling out experts?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:33 AM

Thanks, Berbr'y. I, for one, will forever think of Iains as a turnip but I shall mention it no more :-)

Nigel, once again you have only pedantry and semantics. Everyone understands the gist of what I am saying even if some of it may be hyperbole.

Bonzo, I think we have all wished your wife well. Politics goes on. We cannot help your good lady. You can but using her condition as weapon against others is a terrible thing to do.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:31 AM

If people engaged in rational polite debate it wouldn't happen
To denigrate people's politics and describe their politicians in racist and ageist terms rather than arguing against them rationally is insult enough to anybody - let alone the permanent "leftie idiot" jibe - it redues the forum
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:52 AM

Dum de dum de dum de fucking dum, daily drivel from the leftie pefties when my wife is fighting to keep her temperature down!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:48 AM

"It rather illustrates the depth of feeling generated by her [Naz Shah's] ill judged tweets.
Alienating swathes of the electorate by putting such a person in a shadow cabinet position is the not the action of a clever leader."


Bradford West constituency:

2015 election, Naz Shah, majority 11420

2017 election, Naz Shah, majority 21902

2019 election, Naz Shah, majority 27019

Somebody's not listening! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Barb'ry
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:42 AM


Posts seem to be getting nasty and, if not aimed directly at someone, then they are only a squeaky bum moment away.
I stand by not deleting - unless the comments are a direct attack or so stupid they deserve to go (may I draw random posts of 'turnip' to your attention) but will leave the comments there for posterity to ponder...
If one person posts to inflame then that same person cannot complain if someone responds in an inflammatory manner, to my way of thinking.
B

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:41 AM

If someone says that Boris's inaction is responsible for thousands of deaths. Blame Jeremy Corbyn.

Well, that's a slight improvement on your previous statement:
The "fact" that the current PM's inaction has caused thousands of deaths does matter.

The current PM has 'caused' no deaths. Whether earlier action would have prevented some of the loss of life is debatable, but the cause of the deaths is the virus.
Inflammatory comments help no one.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 03:23 AM

There is an old sales technique. If someone mentions the price, talk about the quality. If someone asks about the quality, tell them the price. It seems that the right wing have modified it

If someone talks about Tories running down the NHS. Turn it to Labour's alleged antisemitism

If someone mentions Tory MPs laughing and cheering at turning down a pay rise for nurses. Bring up Labour's election performance

If someone says that Boris's inaction is responsible for thousands of deaths. Blame Jeremy Corbyn.

I see a pattern emerging here.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 03:12 AM

From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 02:50 AM
In a way, that's why we should be grateful for own own example here - a mental midget with no intelelctual capacity to offer, just abuse, and totally lacking in self respect - a microcosm of British right-wing politics today



Is this string of insults going to be deleted??????????????????

As far as I can tell, although unpleasant, this comment wasn't directed AT you so no, not going to delete.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 02:59 AM

I think Naz Shah is a superb choice for a shadow cabinet position. With her impeccable pedigree she is one more that demonstrates to the electorate that Labour is totally unfit to hold office.
A shame the 2020 elections are cancelled. Were they to take place labour would take yet another drubbing.
Interesting that change.org has a petition to strip Shah of her British Citizenship. It rather illustrates the depth of feeling generated by her ill judged tweets.
Alienating swathes of the electorate by putting such a person in a shadow cabinet position is the not the action of a clever leader. Labour is turning into a swamp.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 02:50 AM

"Naz Shah's ever-burgeoning election successes"
The new technique for neo-Toryism since they stumbled across the "Let's find a tree and drag 'en out that thar jailhouse" Populism of fighting elections is that if someone with principles and determination to push them through appears on the scene is to pick an easy path and mount a smear campaign immediately
It's always been there; it happened as far back as Michael Foot, who was a brilliant speaker a renowned essayist, extremely knowledgeable on many things from political philosophy to the Classics - - an intellectual, highly-principled giant next to Thatcher' squalid, mass-murderer-loving microbe who fell from grace for EARING A DONKEY JACKET THAT WASN'T EVEN A DONKEY JACKET
Rather that fight Corbyn on principles and duty to the people, they chose to RIDICULE HIM
Their tactics include ageism, racism, personal insult lying and resorting to seel=ing ASSISTANCE FROM ABROAD, even from THE MOST EXTREMIST STATES
That seems to be the future for politics in Britain unless this crisis acts as a sobering wake-up call

In a way, that's why we should be grateful for own own example here - a mental midget with no intelelctual capacity to offer, just abuse, and totally lacking in self respect - a microcosm of British right-wing politics today
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 09:29 PM

I notice the nature of his recent youtube link...

There are far-right youtube channels I will never refer to here,
I refuse to promote their names..

I'm waiting for Iains to link to the one I consider to be amongst the vilest shits on the internet...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 09:03 PM

My point in typing Naz Shah's ever-burgeoning election successes is to give pause to the idiot here who is constantly giving us poll results to demonstrate, in his own sweet way, how badly Labour are doing. Perhaps he could just shut up on that for a minute and explain to us how Naz, a far better person than him who he obsessively vilifies, has done so well in her Bradford constituency. Perhaps he can find a way of doing that without resort to telling us how many Muslims and people of colour there are there. He's going to find that hard so I'm simply trying to help him to avoid his usual booby traps...It's the kind of guy I am...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 07:53 PM

That is a tabloid version of what she said anyway
When you consider that The Tories has their own paedofile rings which high ranking ministers and even a Prime Minister you realise that they were only using the small number of cases of grooming
Separate from the Dolphin Aqaure cock-up which they found an escape rout from narrowly (Dolphin Square was a notorious base for high up scandals as long ago as when Mosley lived there) the police admitted tat had Heath lived he would have been investigated
When they managed to scapegoat someone with mental problems they were handed a 'get out of jail free card on a platter
Harvey Proctor was a known offender
If Shah had concerns that the police were making a hash of the enquiries, as it is has been proved they were, it was her duty to warn her community
https://evolvepolitics.com/two-separate-tory-politicians-have-been-convicted-of-child-sex-offences-in-the-last-48-hours/
HOW 'BOUT DEM CHICKENS ?
OR DEM ?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 05:21 PM

The remarks someone made before she was an opposition MP matter not one jot. The fact that the current PM's inaction has caused thousands of deaths does matter. The turnip has no defence so tries to deflect attention from the real issues. Ignore it.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 04:19 PM

Shah's only 'crime' was to quote Jewish intellectual Norman Finklestein's suggestion that Jews could possibly move to The US
wots this below then?

Naz Shah, who represents Bradford West, shared and liked a post tweeted out from a parody account of newspaper columnist Owen Jones. It said: ‘Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity.’ The 43-year-old later deleted her retweet and unliked the post. But she was criticised by the Equality and Human Rights Commission chief executive Rebecca Hilsenrath who said the MP should ‘know better’.
Ms Hilsenrath said: ‘We need to keep the victims of these horrific crimes at the heart of the debate and always remember that diversity is not served by silence.’
Ms Shah’s comments come just days after she attacked fellow Labour MP Sarah Champion for speaking out about the Rotherham sex scandal in article. In the letter, published in The Sun, Ms Shah accused Ms Champion’s comments of being ‘blanket, racialised loaded statements’ which stigmatised the Pakistani community. She added that the article was ‘irresponsible’ and set a ‘dangerous precedent’.

There is of course a government report into the characteristics of grooming gangs that is so incendiary that the government does not want to release it.
More than 100,000 people have signed an official petition demanding the report is published, meaning it must be considered for debate in parliament.

The petition was sparked by an Independent article revealing that the Home Office refused to publish the document, claiming the move would not be in the “public interest”.

“We, the British public, demand the release of the official research on grooming gangs undertaken by the government in full,” the petition says.

It cites another Independent article, which revealed that almost 19,000 suspected child victims of sexual exploitation were identified by local authorities in just one year.

Subject: RE: BS: Clapping for the NHS
From: peteglasgow
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 03:10 PM

is this 'clap for boris johnson' thing actually happening anywhere? really? obviously we can't get around much these days to check on what's going on the next street but i'd be surprised if this was a real story

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 02:42 PM

Shah's only 'crime' was to quote Jewish intellectual Norman Finklestein's suggestion that Jews could possibly move to The US -
As a fiece opponent of Israeli land sezuires, He made it as a flippant remark as did Shah
When the prss reproduced maps said to be Shah's they were in fact drawn up by Finklesein
Shah was branded anti-Semitic - Finklestine a "self-hating Jew" by teh Israeli far-right regime
Shae also comared the Israeli regime to the Nazis as have Jews throughout the world, including Israli Army Generals and former heads of Mossad
No crime their - if it quacks like a duck (and walks like a goose....)
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 02:30 PM

From: Dave the Gnome - PM
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:36 PM
The kindergarten section is coming on a treat. Is that 3 or 4 now signed up.
I am sure the remaining adults will benefit.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:55 PM

Just watching the early evening news. The lead story is Boris's recovery and his heartfelt message to his carers. It was followed by the sad and poignant stories of many of those who have lost their lives.

I am genuinely happy about the PM's recovery and hope that his new found humility and gratitude will continue after the crisis is over. But, like others, my breath remains unheld.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:36 PM

Turnip.

Subject: RE: BS: Clapping for the NHS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:34 PM

PFR, I'd seen the Belper thing. I'm thinking of starting a Boris support group in our village. Fart for Boris. It may result in all his elderly supporters following through but, if the local farmers collect the output, it could be spread on the fields later.

As to Steve 'banging on about it' I could draw your attention to the fact that the whole thing was dead as the proverbial Norwegian blue until you resurrected it 12 Apr 20 - 12:05 PM. But I won't do that. There is enough resurrection going on today already.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Iains
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:23 PM

vilifier
one who attacks the reputation of another by slander or libel

Who did that then?
by her own twittering she twatted herself

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:23 PM

I guess you know a swede was so called because it is the shortened form of Swedish turnip? Also explains why swedes are also called turnips or neeps elsewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:17 PM

Bradford West constituency:

2015 election, Naz Shah, majority 11420

2017 election, Naz Shah, majority 21902

2019 election, Naz Shah, majority 27019

For all you Naz-vilifiers out there...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 01:10 PM

Along with the cruelty to bolting horses, God knows how many people have suffered from allowing last month's Cheltenham Festival & the further spread of coronavirus COVID19; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, questioning "Horses for Courses?"

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 12:57 PM

"Other" EU country?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: peteglasgow
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 12:55 PM

at the last european elections yaxley-lennon got 2,600ish votes and lost his deposit. majid-majid the green, refugee mayor from sheffield was elected with over 200,000. well...there's hope for us yet

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics. Last ditch attempt
From: Raggytash
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 12:54 PM

I've just read Johnson's speech thanking the NHS. I did seem heartfelt.

Let us hope he has had a "road to Damascus" moment to truly realises the value of the service.