BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 03:56 PM

Well, viruses contain protein and nucleic acid, they can reproduce and they are subject to natural selection. Debating as to whether they are alive or not is a bit pointless.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 06:01 PM

Debating as to whether they are alive or not is a bit pointless.

But do viruses have rights?
DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 07:26 PM

Meanwhile dogs are getting it too. Besides cats, I mean.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 04:14 AM

In NZ they are selling home deliveries of drinks called Lock Down

She be right, mate.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 08:20 AM

Hmmm... Smokers not at higher risk?

https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/coronavirus-smoking-nicotine.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 11:34 AM

And now hives.

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/covid-toes-hives-skin-conditions-133004928.html

I insist that my starting to get hives again after years is a sympton of stress and inactivity!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 11:41 AM

Aren’t hives those things that bees live in?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 12:08 PM

Nope. Them are skeps.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 12:14 PM

Nah, skeps are this big steel containers used to dump rubbish in....

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Rain Dog
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 12:19 PM

I always thought it was a hive of activity not inactivity.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 06:15 PM

Resdemivir makes progess reducing Covid symptoms by 4 days. Fauci gives it a thumbs up.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 06:32 PM

2 things in the Telegrope today.

1) they say experts are predicting the second wave will come in the winter. Sorry NZ, you have it licked, fer now, but............ There is a feeling that summer warmth and humidity will suppress COVID-19. And 'flu & colds (which sometimes are coronaviruses) typically show a seasonal variation.

2) the biggest vaccine manufacturer in the world is starting production on the Oxford Uni version (currently in human trials), switching from mumps etc. The Indian company is privately owned and the billionaire owner is able to make the bet not having sareholders/dividends to concern him. If he wins, he wins big. The Indian market is big enough on its own. Mind you, as I understand the methodology, it takes months to get the first batch.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Apr 20 - 01:54 AM

Wiki on Remdesivir (re COVID-19)

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Apr 20 - 04:57 PM

I had quite a disturbing email from my sister yesterday. In it she explained she can't speak as her throat is so sore. Her lungs are very painful and she can hardly walk without gasping for breath. She isn't sleeping well and is terribly worried that the virus has damaged her permanently. She first developed it about five weeks ago, and was discharged from the hospital two weeks ago, after having had ventilation and being on a drip.
She used to be so active and fit, but she fears her life has become a limited existence of tottering around in a feeble state.
I've heard that it can have long-term/permanent effects post-virally.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Apr 20 - 06:14 PM

Well that's difficult to say as the virus has only been around for four or five months. Take this as an optimistic remark.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 May 20 - 05:47 AM

Thanks Steve, I will. As you say, the virus hasn't been around long enough for the after-effects to be scientifically assessed. Anecdotal evidence doesn't carry much weight in my opinion. But being a retired doctor, she can see the gravity of her state, which is sad.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 May 20 - 09:59 AM

Forces à ta sœur, Senoufou.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 May 20 - 10:36 AM

I see Trump is back to claiming the virus originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology (which, if i understand correctly, closed abruptly about the time we began to hear about the virus beginning to become serious in China).

Curiouser and curiouser...

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 May 20 - 11:12 AM

Merci bcp Mrrzy. J'ai soucis pour elle franchement, elle plonge en désespoire.
It is curious Backwoodsman. If that Virology place was so insecurely managed, it should be permanently closed and the 'resident' viruses killed off. But what Trump says gets madder and madder doesn't it? I'm afraid his cheese has completely slid off his cracker!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 01 May 20 - 02:58 PM

Its not "curious" at all. Just President Lying-Sack-Of-Shit desperately trying to shift blame for his serial fuckups to anyone and everyone he can think of.

And the brain-dead Trumpist dickheads will believe his conspiracy theory bullshit.

Be afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: fat B****rd
Date: 01 May 20 - 03:58 PM

Sending late best thoughts Eliza.
Charlie x

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 May 20 - 04:04 PM

Understood but Senofou is using the word curious in a most wonderful way as in 'discovery' or seeking discovery.
Multiple organ damage may occur but there may be treatments for even that as in stem cell tretments from ones own body.
More time is needed.

Beware of rhetorical questions Mossback

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 May 20 - 04:32 PM

Thank you so much Charlie, your kind thoughts really help to reassure me.
At least my sister is eating properly - she has lots of batch-cooked meals in her freezer which she made long before the virus struck.
I see that Korea are now saying people cannot get Covid19 twice after all. That's encouraging isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 May 20 - 05:28 PM

Ooh that would be great.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 May 20 - 05:50 PM

Fauci has been working for decades to make a flu vaccine for ALL flu by working with the rod protein all flus share.

btw the White house has blocked Fauci from testifying in Congress

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 May 20 - 06:20 PM

"promised 100k tests a day by the end of April.

On 30th April, 122,347 tests were completed.

Promise made. Promise delivered"

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 01 May 20 - 06:29 PM

Beware of rhetorical questions Mossback

Beware of reality and factual information, Don - you're sliding into Trumpism.

Bozo: Bullshit Stated - Bullshit Delivered.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 May 20 - 07:12 PM

"On 30th April, 122,347 tests were completed."

Not so, Mudcat's Croydon Eye. A third of those tests were sent out by post and no-one knows how many were either received on time or actually carried out.   Comment is free but facts are sacred.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 May 20 - 02:30 AM

Well done @MattHancock   All the doubters vanquished and the lefties now will have to find another issue to spread doom and gloom #testing

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 May 20 - 03:34 AM

Many BAME are suffering COVID19 (& rickets) in England (& New York) due to mass economic/CAPITALIST immigration in defiance of EVOLUTION - i.e., darker skin DOES need more sunlight for enough vitaminD to be healthy & we are too far from the equator for them; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse on "Repatriating"

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 May 20 - 03:42 AM

I'm determined to come out of lockdown with new stuff. I’ve just signed up for an online archeology course

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 May 20 - 03:50 AM

My husband had slight rickets when I first met him; his legs are a bit curved. He hadn't had a good diet from infancy (just white rice and a few vegetables).
The sun in his homeland is very strong of course, but it didn't seem to rectify the lack of vitamin D. He takes supplements now, and eats plenty of vitamin D-rich food.
Bonzo, archaeology sounds extremely interesting! I agree it's a good idea to profit from the Lockdown and study something.
(for me - Crumpetology?)

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 May 20 - 03:57 AM

Archaeology eh, Bonz? A very appropriate course to be studied by an Anachronism.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 May 20 - 04:21 AM

Think about the wording!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 May 20 - 09:29 AM

Bame?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 May 20 - 11:22 AM

Don't ask, he'll just send more bad poetry your way.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 02 May 20 - 11:33 AM

BAME:- Black, Asian, minority ethnic.

i.e. non white.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 May 20 - 12:18 PM

bonzo , i notice your posts are a trifle dogmatic

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 20 - 12:40 PM

Hows this for dogmatic

1. Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.
2. Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.
3. Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.
4. Oh the First World War, boys
It came and it went
The reason for fighting
I never did get
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.
5. When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And then we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.
6. I've learned to hate the Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.
7. But now we got weapons
Of biological dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
8. Through isolation days
I've heard old war cries
between the blues and greys
Reds say $ is above lives
Some blame it on the yellow
You'll have to decide
Who rings most hollow
had God on his side.
9. So now as I'm coughin'
I'm weary as hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
no tongue can tell
I hear myself sayin
if God's on our side
He'll stop the next war
and won't let it hide.

Walkabout Don

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 May 20 - 05:38 AM

"bonzo , i notice your posts are a trifle dogmatic"

So they are! Our greyhound in her lockdownness decided to dig a hole in the lower level of our garden this morning until I bribed her away with treats!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 May 20 - 08:27 AM

Ah, thanks. Like POC.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 20 - 09:09 AM

Kids being potty trained are virtually immune to Covid 19 so Trump suggested older people could shit their pants for similar results :^/

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 May 20 - 09:14 AM

Happy (silent) hypoxia

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/happy-hypoxia-unusual-coronavirus-effect-baffles-doctors

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 20 - 12:08 PM

The coming pandemic -Austrailian documentary version
Is highly informative!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 20 - 12:10 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/happy-hypoxia-unusual-coronavirus-effect-baffles-doctors

good catch Mrrzy

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 May 20 - 06:16 PM

Also this, which I find encouraging:

Hey I can do blickies again!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 20 - 06:21 AM

47D11 go team go

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 05 May 20 - 08:23 AM

Trump's push to prematurely open up could be deadly:

NYTimes

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 20 - 08:30 AM

I heard it will magically disappear in April
Is it April yet?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 May 20 - 09:44 AM

Children have been being misdiagnosed, rather than not getting it, as it seems to present differently:

Blicky