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BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19

Donuel 24 Jul 21 - 08:35 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 08:35 PM

You've convinced me that pfr has more common sense.
Enjoy your weekend.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 08:15 PM

You lost your courage there, didn't you, Donuel. Shame.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 08:08 PM

What does increase transmissability is singing in crowds indoors.

All things being equal - they aren't :"(


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 07:53 PM

Nuttin to do wit you Steve. I think responsible folks should weigh conditions and circumstances for mask wearing.
As for vaccine deniers they are either fickle or fatal to others.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Allan Conn
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 11:08 AM

When we were at Berwick yesterday there was a massive cruise ship anchored off the shore and passengers were being ferried into Berwick to then be put on buses for excursions. Cruises would normally go up the Forth for Edinburgh and often bus excursions come down to my home town of Kelso. It seems that there was no stop between Liverpool and Newcastle because they are currently banned from coming to Scotland because of the covid restrictions so Berwick was added. It turns out though that the bus excursions were still coming into Scotland - just from an English port. The destinations were St Abbs, Coldstream and Kelso. I thought that was a bit cheeky of the organisers but seemingly there were in the rules as long as the groups kept to their bubbles and did not enter any premises. Saying that you'd think the organisers would have had the gumption to change the excursions to Alnwick and Lindisfarne. At least folk would have been able to get a cup of tea.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 10:11 AM

I take it that you equate driving off a cliff with removing my mask. If so, contemplate for a moment what a truly brainless analogy that is.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 09:04 AM

If you are vaccinated but get a breakthrough Delta infection, will you make more Covid antibodies?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 08:45 AM

Some things are hard to believe.

An Australian activewear firm has been fined £2.6m (5m Australian dollars) for claiming its clothing "eliminated" and stopped the spread of Covid.

Lorna Jane had advertised that its clothing used "a groundbreaking technology" called LJ Shield to prevent the "transferal of all pathogens".

BBC News


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 06:56 AM

Cliff driving is putting stress on many State resources to recover and treat the victims of cliff driving. Cliff driving advocates say they prefer dangerous freedoms to safe mandates. The Mayor of Withering View Georgia says he will nix any moves to ban cliff driving but at the same time do not expect any ambulance or hospital care.
Now that many children are perishing inside SUV's that take the 'plunge' it is surprising that the fatality numbers are still going up.
The anti cliff driving folks blame a lack of common sense that drives people to kill ones self and others. Bill Barnone, a cliff driver survivor and internet influencer says on Facebook "You can die from safe driving. There is nothing like driving over a cliff. I don't give a flying shit".


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 06:35 PM

Well Cornwall has a fairly high level of cases and there are droves of holidaymakers here already. You can hardly bloody move on our roads. But I honestly don't give a flying shite. I've had two jabs and if I'm a threat to anyone it's a bloody small threat compared to that posed by unvaccinated clubbers and unvaccinated school kids. So sod it, no more bloody masks for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Allan Conn
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 06:06 PM

I must admit I was surprised that no-one seemed to be mask less. Wonder why the difference?? I suppose levels of infection might make a difference. Northumberland has way above average infection rates whereas Cornwall is a bit below average. Plus I suppose much of Berwick's hinterland is Scottish. So masks are not just heavily encouraged here it is the law too. Not going to change behaviour just because the shop is in England. I suppose the fewer folk there are not wearing masks then the more likely one is to keep it on. Still amazed everyone was donning them though.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the US Delta COVID
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 06:05 PM

The Delta wave should peak in October without changing current behavior.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 05:22 PM

I've shopped in four different supermarkets yesterday and today. Yesterday in Morrisons, about a quarter of shoppers were not wearing masks (unlike me...). Today in Truro Tesco, at least a third of shoppers were unmasked (I was one of them). in Sainsburys it was about one in four. In M&S, the same. I haven't worn a mask today. There has been no issue in any shop, and the signs at the entrances make it clear that it's now a personal choice. I have a new mask in my pocket and will always respect direct and polite requests to don it, but, by a couple of weeks' time, I'm hoping to ditch it and to never see a bloody mask ever again.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Allan Conn
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 04:59 PM

Crossed the border today to go to Berwick in Northumberland. Northumberland has infection rates about 3 times of the rate here in the Borders plus of course masks are not compulsory there now. So I was wondering what Tesco would be like. We still have to be wary as although my wife is double vaccinated she has an impaired immune system so regarded as vulnerable. I was surprised though because every single customer in Tesco appeared to be still wearing masks.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 06:27 AM

Book of the week on BBC Radio 4 is Vaxxers by Professor Sarah Gilbert and Dr. Catherine Green.

The gripping inside story of the making of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine. Read by Samantha Bond and Debra Baker.

Book of the week - Vaxxers


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 05:08 AM

Here in the Land of Oz we've had a vaccine "stroll-out" "run" by our federal government (our Prime Minister is/was a proud friend of Trump!)

In a recent report Australia was 40th (the lowest) in % of population vaccinated.

When the Govt finally decided to create ads encouraging vaccination, they were so so inept they were ridiculed, so other organisations made their own ‘We wanted a vaccine ad based on hope’: arts and community sector PSAs fill government ‘vacuum’ After the heavily criticised federal fear-based campaign, two new Covid ads made on shoestring budgets are getting thousands of shares

PSAs??? = Public service ads as opposed to commissioned ads, advertising agency work


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 07:19 AM

There is talk of a Marshall Plan for the US to vaccinate the world.

Shall we go alphabetically or Allies first?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 04:19 AM

"Long and interrupted" started off as "long, uninterrupted..."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 10:32 PM

My sympathies for your loss. My religious community has yet to get together in the concrete and I've lost track of where they meet in the abstract (online).

When I go out up to maybe a quarter of the folks I see are wearing masks. Our community is officially not required to wear them, but many establishments have a sign that they want them warn by the uninoculated. We're getting news that most of the new cases are among those who did not get the jab and I won't be surprised if there is a return to more mask wearing.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 07:26 PM

Well yesterday was Freedom Day. So this morning I went to the funeral of a dear friend at a local village church in searing heat. There was plenty of room in there. Everyone was wearing a mask, but, in view of the oppressive heat and the prospect of 45 minutes suffering with my sinuses, I quickly removed my mask. Five minutes after that, two of our erstwhile friends, who are COVID deniers, swanned in without masks. So that made three of us. Once the service had started, the vicar (Doug - we go back an awful long way, Doug and me...) invited us to wear masks but said it was up to us. A few minutes after that, it was time for the first hymn. Doug told us all we could take off our masks to sing. Well, well, I thought. You sit there being all quiet with masks on, then you take them off to do some superspreading singing...

By the time we got to the second-last hymn, around half of the people in church hadn't bothered to put their masks back on. I hope that this will be the way things go from now on. There's always a mask in my pocket, and I wish it a long and interrupted sojourn therein... It was a lovely, heartwarming funeral, by the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 07:45 AM

There could be vaccine
for all the world's nations
unless deadlier new mutations
have another trick in their bag.

I do not think virus can think

but the flu was the big loser last year.
Will it get stronger in retaliation
is something thats not very clear.
But it won't matter whatever your flag.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 06:49 AM

Writ large is the phrase thats writ large today. Everyone's getting infected with the Delta variant writ large. Delta is more contagious writ large. But anti vaxers are blind to whats writ large. The most absurd little big lies are writ large for them. Olympic money makers will not attemd. Facebook executives are in quarantine. Politicians get vaccine in secret. Writ large are the lies of yesterday that discourage common sense today. 99% of all the new tomb stones from Delta Covid are of the cult of the antivaxers. The USA has an embarrassment of riches that greedily bought all the vaccines so the world has very little for a priviledged few. Now the cure goes to waste while the crazies wait. People die as the world waits.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 09:12 PM

thanks, stilly

Sydney's covid outbreak

Australia's vaccination "stroll-out"

Percentage of the population fully vaccinated by country we're at the bottom, 40th in the list with Iceland at 73.89%, Australia at 10.11%


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 06:16 PM

Apparently the subject of the top 12 main sources of misinformation on vaccines and Covid came up in today's (Friday 20210716) White House Press briefing and the FOX interlocutor pretty much accused the White House of spying on these people's social sites, unaware that much has already been made public about these internet liars.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 02:32 PM

cool


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 11:31 AM

Sandra, I've always loved the photos of people recreating famous paintings. These are very clever and you know they kept the kids entertained and connected for the time it took to consider which work and then to stage it. (And this is shared to my Facebook friends!)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 11:25 AM

something lighter - Competition challenges Sydneysiders to recreate artworks during lockdown


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 11:23 AM

From that Onion piece:

Q: What should we do to curb its spread?
A: All the same things we haven’t been doing.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 08:57 AM

Steven Colbert on global Covid news


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 07:41 AM

https://www.theonion.com/what-to-know-about-the-delta-covid-variant-1847213234


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 09:47 PM

Starting with Missouri the outbreaks are in crises and have maxed out care. Secret vaccines are being offered since vaccination is so unpopular there. This time would qualify as a massive global second wave.
2 more to go is my guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 10:47 AM

I correctly deduced that anyway.
Tennesee has banned outreach and information promotion on all vaccines.
That'll learn em.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jul 21 - 05:24 AM

Nigel, I corrected it, the corrected version DID appear here, but someone deleted it and left the "wrong" version in place! It should have started "We were told last week..."


Mea culpa. Tried to put the correction on the right part of the statement. Sorry. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Jul 21 - 04:49 AM

The Government makes as much sense as that last post ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 21 - 11:14 AM

We're we're time last week that the legal requirement to wear masks would end on the 19th. We were told that we are "expected" to wear masks after the 19th. This government knows not its arse from its elbow. More to come...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 21 - 11:05 AM

No it isn't. And I only had my second jab six weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 21 - 10:48 AM

It is legal and appropriate for Steve to get a booster vaccine as soon as now. But we still have a delay over here.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jos
Date: 11 Jul 21 - 02:37 AM

To be on topic – it seems you can catch two variants of covid at the same time. Only one recorded case so far, but not everyone's infection gets tested, so it's possibly more common.

On swearing, I remember a very self-righteous neighbour complaining about the language she had heard in the street, saying:
"I was so shocked. I have never heard such language before in my life, and I don't know what those words mean!"

Yeah ... right.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 07:58 PM

Thank God for atheism is all I can say...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 07:49 PM

Swearing is swearing. I'm an atheist also, and don't worry about the origins of many of the curse words in use today.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 05:41 PM

Just like Richard Dawkins, I have never claimed to be a "total atheist." Anyways, that's a bit off-topic as it happens... By the way, Nigel, blasphemy me arse!

I may have deleted the NHS COVID-19 app, but I still have the regular NHS app, with which I can order my prescriptions, etc., and that one contains my vaccination history, so I can show anyone who wants to know that I've had two jabs.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jos
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 05:37 PM

I believe 'Goodbye', which atheists might use without a second thought, means 'God be with you'. To be more secular, one could say 'Fare well', but somehow that has an air of finality about it, as if you are not going to meet again.
But at least 'God be with you' doesn't specify which god you mean (unlike references to 'Baby Jesus').


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 05:10 PM

”I'm guessing that "for chrissake" is intended to mean "For Christ's sake".
Someone who claims to be totally atheist should not use this expression!”


It’s a strange phenomenon, Nigel. I have a rabidly-ætheist friend who frequently appeals to “Baby Jesus, forgive me!”. Weird or what?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 04:14 PM

Fortunately I don't get offended by blasphemy, but . . .
I have had the NHS COVID-19 app until now (which alerts you if someone who has tested positive has been hanging around you, detected by Bluetooth on both persons' phones), but I've deleted it. I haven't been "pinged" (i.e., ordered to self-isolate) due to a close COVID contact, but I was ordered to self-isolate for 10 days when I reported a high temperature (which turned out to be the start of a dose of cellulitis). I went for a proper test (not those free ones you can order which are unreliable), which proved negative, so the app then let me off the hook. Well I've had both my jabs now and I really don't want to know any more if an infected person has been near me, and I certainly don't want to be told to lock myself away for 10 days. The government is thinking of tinkering with the app to make it "less sensitive," in an attempt to stop people from deleting it. I mean, for chrissake...

I'm guessing that "for chrissake" is intended to mean "For Christ's sake".
Someone who claims to be totally atheist should not use this expression!


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jos
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 03:06 PM

I haven't got the NHS app, and I haven't got a 'smart' phone so I couldn't have it anyway. My phone is a means of communication, not a means of control.

I am particularly concerned by suggestions that people might not be allowed into bars and restaurants (or theatres, concerts etc.) without having the app in order to prove they have been vaccinated. Supposedly, this would be a measure to encourage young people to get vaccinated. The real effect would be to force many people to have a smartphone and an app, through which their whereabouts and even some of their behaviour could be traked and traced.

Maybe I am being paranoid. But then again, maybe they really are out to get me along with the rest of us.

In any case, by the time I had paid for the smartphone, I would have spent the money that I could have used going to the pub, eating out or going to a concert, so I am NOT going to do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 11:43 AM

The Delta variant is becoming the most prominent in many US communities now, and it's beginning to sound like those places are having to cycle through the hyper-vigilant activities (distance, masks, staying out-of-doors). I haven't heard of any shut downs so far.

That ED side effect was discussed on the news but I can't find it on the site that I think carried it. It points to the long term vascular problems associated with COVID-19. I guess you couldn't call this a part of "long COVID," though. Just thinking out loud. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 09:17 AM

I have had the NHS COVID-19 app until now (which alerts you if someone who has tested positive has been hanging around you, detected by Bluetooth on both persons' phones), but I've deleted it. I haven't been "pinged" (i.e., ordered to self-isolate) due to a close COVID contact, but I was ordered to self-isolate for 10 days when I reported a high temperature (which turned out to be the start of a dose of cellulitis). I went for a proper test (not those free ones you can order which are unreliable), which proved negative, so the app then let me off the hook. Well I've had both my jabs now and I really don't want to know any more if an infected person has been near me, and I certainly don't want to be told to lock myself away for 10 days. The government is thinking of tinkering with the app to make it "less sensitive," in an attempt to stop people from deleting it. I mean, for chrissake...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Jul 21 - 05:09 PM

Anti-vaxxer'a droop


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jul 21 - 03:42 PM

Covid booster shots are good for seniors who show waning immunity after 6 months. The FDA hasn't any final reccomendations on the booster yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jul 21 - 10:24 PM

I'm already seeing prompts to get this year's flu shot, as of July 1. I don't know if it is even in the pharmacy yet.


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