BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 10:00 AM

If someone is put on a ventillator due to Covid 19 their chance for survival is only 20%. It is a rare enough event to recover, some hospitals have a protocol of celebrating a recovered patient's release with applause at the exit to the music of Rocky.

Those who are ventilated are put in a medical coma which sometimes leads to blood clots and pulmonary embollisms from the lack of movement. This results in leg amputations when clots are found early.

This 'coroner' virus is a brute but so is the standard care for serious cases.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 12:06 PM

And now this: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/first-u-s-coronavirus-fatality-found-three-weeks-earlier-than-previously-known.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 12:14 PM

Trump should extend his temporary freeze on immigration to a PERMANENT one - respecting Native American/Amerindian/First Nation "Land Rights"
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 12:27 PM

Just what the world needs - more crap "poetry"[sic].

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 12:46 PM

David Carter UK,
the concept of 'Viral Load' was initially my opinion of one possible factor in infection as reasoned from a occams razor simplistic POV.

Age and Underlying conditions remains a known primary factor.

This 'load' factor is untested to my knowledge, so blame me for the speculation. I can not prove this load theory but I do not see that thinking should be discouraged.
^^^^^^^

The US Attorney General Bill Barr says if people sue to be free of what he calls house arrest, the governmnt will side against strict States and side with plaintiffs.
Bill Barr is on the side of genocide

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 01:04 PM

SING ALONG

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 02:26 PM

Also this is likely why that giy had his leg amputated: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/

Also survivors may be left with badly trashed kidneys and hearts, not just lungs.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: mg
Date: 22 Apr 20 - 06:16 PM

it's bad for sure. a ray of good news this morning on twitter..out of a yale lab. look it up yourselves or don't believe me. your choice. said that tests via saliva vs. nasal swabs were superior in results. It seems it would also cut down on personnel. I wonder if all the genealogy labs working with saliva kits could be pressed into service or at least provide expertise. Would not require as much exposure of personnel.

I can not imagine that viral load would not be a huge factor. Constant reexposure, such as in a nursing home, must be really bad. there have to be explanations for the high number of deaths both of staff and residents, athough I do believe many were slow to institute lockdowns etc.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 09:12 AM

Not just the bottoms of the feet: https://kfor.com/news/covid-toes-puzzling-condition-a-possible-coronavirus-symptom-mostly-seen-in-young-people/

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 10:47 AM

My local drug store is locked up. Nobody there to staff it?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 12:23 PM

This might be helpful, though not exactly new news: info on how long the virus lives outside people:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/how-long-covid-19-lives-on-surfaces

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 12:45 PM

While you don't have to eat meat, how long does virus live on raw refridgerated meats?

We don't know but Drs have said That Covid is a respiratory/eye/nose throat threat, its safe to eat Covid.

They really don't know, they just make best guesses.
Handling raw meat should be done VERY cautiously

Lots of meat packing plants are closed due to mass infections.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 03:42 PM

The packers, not the meat, are infected.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 03:49 PM

Elizabeth Warren just lost a brother to the virus.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 06:08 PM

Have you done experiments on how long the virus lives on moist raw meat?

A covid vaccine started human trials today. It contains the protien of the corona spikes.

There are about 70 entities developing vaccines.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 02:03 AM

UK human Trial in 2 Universities started.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 06:54 AM

Within thirty seconds of my arriving in the fruit and veg aisle in Bude Morrison's yesterday, a masked man and a masked woman, not with each other, barged within one foot of me at the bagged lettuce shelf. An unscientific sample of two, maybe, but it made me suspect that mask-wearing may not be the panacea...

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 07:18 AM

I hope everyone puts a shot of Lysol in their coffee this morning per the suggestion of the Idiot in Chief.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 07:29 AM

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-drink-inject-disinfectant-bleach-us-dettol-rb-lysol-094417426.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 08:13 AM

I don't do the experiments but the reason the packing plants closed is the workers being too sick to pack, not the meat being contaminated.
I have already posted a link to how long this virus lives on various things. Dead meat is not a live host.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 08:20 AM

I gotta hunch that napalm destroys the corona virus better than lysol.
Ask your Dr.if this is good for you.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 10:21 AM

Stephen Fry Reveals How Right-Wing Media Crippled America’s Coronavirus Defense

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephen-fry-fox-news-trump_n_5ea23e27c5b669fd8921e3a3

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 12:59 PM

My toes are officially curled. It's in the eyes, like ebola.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Researchers-found-coronavirus-in-a-patient-s-eyes-15223616.php

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 01:09 PM

I have noticed a great deal of pink eye among those interviewed on TV
Nurses, doctors, recovered patients etc.)

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 01:28 PM

Now twitler is claiming that his disinfectant discourse last evening was sarcasm directed at reporters which was clearly not the case. There is no end to the mendacity.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 01:32 PM

Oh yeah? In their own words

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 07:32 PM

Local news (npr) said that in our area over a dozen emergency responses were made to people who had applied various disinfectants to their bodys

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 07:59 PM

20% increase in disinfectant poisoning

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 04:02 AM

Interesting to see where Agent Orange got his duff info from...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 05:57 AM

Arsenicum Alb might be considered helpful, despite idiot NHS doctors scorn of homeopathy!!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 05:59 AM

Ah, you’re a qualified doctor and medical research specialist, as well as an accountant, Bonz?

Who knew?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 08:15 AM

Mercifully the White House reports that the Disinfector in Chief is going to pare back appearances at the daily task force "briefings" after turning tail before answering what would have been highly embarrassing disinfectant questions for him at last night's truncated "briefing".
Don't drink bleach.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 01:20 PM

Kim jong un is apparently probably dead.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 02:33 PM

Over on the UK Politics thread, I made a mistake when I replied to a post, not realising that it was a joke. As it happens, my reply there is more or less appropriate here:-


Never set any store on information that includes the word "apparently".

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 03:12 PM

Apparently probably is surely an oxymoron!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 03:26 PM

I wonder if the NK's sent Kim out with one of the anti-aircraft gun salutes that he was so fond of. Poor trump loses his soulmate.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 03:47 PM

Two rumours circulating - (1) Kim Jong Un is dead, and (2) he’s in a vegetative state after an operation to implant a stent went wrong. (nytimes).

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 03:58 PM

He's been in a vegetative state his whole life. So what's new.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 12:46 PM

CDC adds symptoms: https://abc7chicago.com/health/cdc-adds-6-new-possible-symptoms-of-covid-19/6130502/

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 12:50 PM

Posted this on wrong thread earlier, oops.

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21232665/north-korea-kim-jong-un-coronavirus-sick

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 05:07 PM

A Spoonful of Clorox by Randy Rainbow

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Apr 20 - 08:16 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Apr 20 - 09:42 AM

Not yet news but will be soon: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/27/covid-19-quickly-kills-some-while-others-dont-show-symptoms-can-genetics-explain-this/

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Apr 20 - 10:17 AM

It's got elements of hemorrhagic issues, young folks having strokes and apmutations, scary af:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/we-still-dont-know-how-the-coronavirus-is-killing-us.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Apr 20 - 03:00 PM

Thats why I thought resdemivir was smart. ebola was hemmoragic.

An app mutation sounds like tech theft.

Most of our genetic information is unknown. They used to call it junk dna. It may contain info to combat long extinct threats. Most of the unknown dna has since been identified as instructions to make specific protiens.
Its not the number of our genes but the info inside them. Some worms have more genes than me.

Wouldn't it be great to just turn on the correct gene to battle covid 19 or find it and CRISPER it into your system? This would even give your descendants immunity. This kind of genetic medicine is only a possibility, not a reality.

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 10:09 AM

The opposite of hemorrhagic, oops, my bad:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/the-mysterious-clotting-in-covid19-patients/?itid=hp_audio-homepage-low-mweb_pr-main-player-low%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 10:34 AM

Also inflammation of the blood vessels in children: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/health/children-covid-19-illness-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:40 AM

Virus are not alive like flora or fauna. Nor are they life but rather exist in a grey zone of biota. Are they dead or alive ?

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 03:03 PM

Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 03:10 PM

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