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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 09 Oct 22 - 06:06 AM Yes I've had the sore arm every time, but never any other side effects. Mrs Bonzo had to pass on the Pfizer because one she had previously almost certainly caused a blood clot in her left eye. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Oct 22 - 05:40 AM I had my booster last Monday. On the little card it sez "Pfizer-Comirnaty." My arm was sore for a few days (I've never had that before). Oddly, I also had a sore arm (the other one) after my flu jab the week before. But life must go on. What with all my lurgies over the last few weeks, I've had umpteen blood tests as well as a cannula stuck in my hand for days. My new nickname is pincushion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 09 Oct 22 - 02:56 AM Has anyone had the Pfizer Autumn booster, I had one yesterday and have slight shortness of breath today. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 22 - 04:33 PM Anything that helps to enhance immunity is good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Sep 22 - 03:22 PM I don't know anything about it and am not basing my luck on anything - I observed that there is new research. We will have to wait and see what comes of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 22 - 02:46 PM Well webMD states that coronaviruses cause about 20% of colds, a bit higher than my wiki figure, but who knows. I didn't say you were incorrect, just that even if you knew that coronavirus-colds did help to protect against covid it wouldn't really be a useful strategy to try to employ. All down to pot luck really. Every little helps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Sep 22 - 12:59 PM https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes It's likely that someday you'll have a close encounter with one of these types: Enough that it makes a noticeable number of cases and doesn't render the statement I made incorrect, especially with the mystery 20-30% unknown. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 22 - 12:51 PM Most colds are not caused by coronaviruses (only about one cold in seven) so you wouldn't know whether that was a useful strategy anyway as you wouldn't know which virus you had. I had my flu jab a couple of days ago and I'm getting boosted on Monday. As I had covid in July I'm hoping that lot will see me through relatively unscathed (giving it my best shot if you'll excuse the pun). I have the mother and father of a cold at the moment (not covid - tested negative twice this week), so, who knows, I might be one of the one-in-seven. Masks are rarely seen round here and no-one insists that you wear one. I hear that infection numbers are on the up again. The government here, presiding over a health service that they've rendered unfit for purpose, is getting worried about a possible double whammy of flu and covid this winter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Sep 22 - 12:33 PM I got the new Pfizer Omicron COVID booster almost three weeks ago. I still wear a mask when I go into public spaces, but with ever booster I hope I'm more resistant should I come into contact. I heard a news story this week that said there may be about 10% of the population (US? World?) that has immune systems that use exposure to past corona viruses (colds) to combat exposure to the new corona virus, so they fight it off early and don't develop symptoms. Everyone else has to get exposed, let their immune systems start making the antibodies, then fight it off (hopefully) after symptoms have developed. I look forward to more information about this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 22 Sep 22 - 06:59 PM Infection rates in the UK have dropped dramatically. Seasonal, of course. My booster is booked for next month. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: keberoxu Date: 22 Sep 22 - 06:35 PM I don't know how well this link will work to Bloomberg. It's a report on the statement from the World Health Organization. "We have never been in a better position to end the pandemic" |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Aug 22 - 09:02 PM The senior (double-strength) flu vaccines are in now (I just called my favorite pharmacist) and if I go in next week on Monday (I choose a day when she's in because she has a great counter-side manner) to get that then maybe by mid-September if COVID vaccines are in I'll be set. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 22 - 08:22 AM SEPTEMBER is the month for the recent variant vaccine distribution. The flu shot is always a guess as to its coming variant. We get it wrong more often than getting it spot on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 23 Aug 22 - 02:46 AM I got a call from my doctors' surgery yesterday offering me two injections! The lady didn't say what they were, but I assume she meant a Covid vaccination and a flu jab. I declined for now. I'm not an 'anti-vaxxer' but I'll wait until the autumn after seeing how this new jab affects people. I don't want to be ill with post-vaccination reactions, as I now live alone. I still wear a mask when shopping at the supermarket. |
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Subject: RE: FITNESS & Declutter 2022 - Pandemic redux From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 05:22 PM Thanks for the memories Retro virus clues Covid's not the flu The Presidents that you worked for are practically no more Thank you so much Strictly entre nous Fauci, how are you? And how are all Those little dreams That mostly did come true? Awfully glad we met you Cheerio and toodle-oo Thank you Thank you so much |
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Subject: RE: FITNESS & Declutter 2022 - Pandemic redux From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 11:45 AM Woo Hoo only 209,000 US deaths from Covid this year so far! -grim grin- |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 19 Jul 22 - 10:07 AM Problem here is if people want to take personal responsibility for public health, we have to pay to do so. I only have a handful of tests left. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jul 22 - 07:29 PM I can't find the exact article I read this morning but I thought it was from the Washington Post, about how problematic the undercount is now of COVID. Many people test at home and deal with it, and the numbers and version of the virus aren't reported. Tracking U.S. covid-19 cases, deaths and other metrics by state is the overall number of cases since the beginning. Fauci said he will retire before Biden's administration is over. He is 81 now, and he said if he stayed till it's gone he'd be 105. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 17 Jul 22 - 07:18 PM If you are in the northern summer and you have a cough and a runny nose, you probably have covid. Those symptoms, plus the positive tests, informed my behaviour for almost two weeks, until I tested negative at last. What you do about those symptoms is now up to you. In my case, I had to consider my plans for mixing with elderly people. My solution was to stay home until I tested negative. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 17 Jul 22 - 02:19 PM I wonder if several bouts of nothing but a runny nose could have been the mild symptoms people report. I have not been sick enough to require testing. Rhino virus is still alive and well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jul 22 - 11:49 PM I agree with Steve, it is now very common for people who managed to avoid it for two-plus years to suddenly find they have COVID. This latest variant seems to be particularly easy to catch. Family members with a couple of roommates are all hunkered down in different rooms of their house trying to not have everyone catch it. I've handed over some of my stash of tests to them and gone ahead to replenish my supply since both Medicare and my insurance company will pay for 8 tests a month (each). |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 16 Jul 22 - 10:31 PM since Christmas a number of my friends have caught covid, I can't remember any getting it beforehand, but I'm sure some must have. The strangest case was after a christmas lunch - friend & husband & 97 y/o mother didn't catch it, but their daughter & son & their partners each with 2 children (15 mths to 10) caught it, & other friends I've seen weekly before & after lockdowns, are missing our socially distanced Craft group (once we sat around several big tables) cos they or kids/grandkids in widespread suburbs have it. People here are ignoring the daily statistics (we've had more deaths this year than we had in deep lockdown) & pleas by medical authorities at wear masks & make sure their boosters are up to date ... but the politicians & business leaders aren't listening, apart from saying get boosters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 16 Jul 22 - 08:41 PM We felt emancipated after our negative tests, and Mrs Steve went into town to buy some birthday cards and some peppers for our peperonata, her first sortie past our garden gate for two weeks. We had managed very well, as I'd somewhat fortuitously done a big shop the day before my first positive test, almost two weeks ago... Still slightly lacking in energy and still a bit nasal. I've heard similar things from many people. Six months ago I was saying that I'd never come across anyone who had had the disease. Today, I'm struggling to find anyone who hasn't had it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 Jul 22 - 09:59 PM here in the Land of Oz it's mid winter & we have medical authorities saying wear masks indoors & politicians saying no way, it's business as usual!! ‘Not just another wave’: Australia’s Covid hospitalisations reach record levels in several states Hospitals across the country are “bursting at the seams” as the number of people being admitted with Covid-19 reaches record levels in several states ... Epidemiologist Adrian Esterman said the differing hospitalisation rates across the nation make for a “quite strange” picture – but one with a unifying theme. “My understanding, from speaking to people around the country, is that every major hospital is at full capacity and bursting at the seams,” the University of South Australia professor said. And there is worse to come, with most states and territories likely several weeks away from their peak hospitalisation rates of this wave, he said. “That will be when the pressure is really on, and we’ll just have to see how they manage.” The current wave, driven by the BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron subvariants, has coincided with a “horrendous” hospitalisation rate from influenza ... “If we use boosters and antivirals and get people wearing masks and staying at home, we have the ability to control it, to some degree,” the academic and director of infectious diseases at Mater Health Services said ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jul 22 - 06:58 PM We are both negative. That makes me two days, so I'm unshackled! Mrs Steve is waiting until tomorrow, but we are now ditching the testing. We've gone way over and above current guidelines. Fortuitously, I'd done a big food shop just before we suspected that all was not well, and, as the garden is currently providing lots of salad and spuds and herbs, we haven't needed to call on anyone to shop for us, though we've had lots of offers. The only hangover is that we both have slightly reduced energy levels, but that's improving. Not bad for two septuagenarians, aka two people approaching middle age! |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 14 Jul 22 - 07:05 PM Well that was this morning, the faint T line. After a day working in the garden, with hard labour, blazing sun, a strong Cornish breeze and an overdose of fresh air, I tested negative (at long last) at six o'clock this evening. I so didn't beIieve it that I immediately repeated the test with a different brand kit. Same result! I'll do another test in the morning before I undo my shackles. I sense impending release... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 14 Jul 22 - 11:44 AM Ma soeur va un peu mieux, merci Mrrzy. Elle fait un peu de jardinage, cequi me dit qu'elle a retrouvé sa santé. Et vous? Ça va un peu maintenant? Meilleurs voeux! |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 14 Jul 22 - 09:34 AM Well Mrs Steve was poorly for a few days but I got away with just an annoying cough. If anyone is going to catch it and show symptoms, then let me wish mine upon you! The most irritating thing is that I STILL can't test negative. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Jul 22 - 09:27 AM The BA.5 variant is spreading fast here and apparently can get past immunizations and antibodies built up from previous cases. Dr. Fauci says if you are still eligible for another booster, get it now. Now or later? When to get a Covid booster shot Updated vaccines targeting BA.4 and BA.5 are expected in the fall, but doctors still overwhelmingly encourage those who are eligible to get booster shots now. I've had both boosters so will be near the front of the line when the next vaccine iteration appears. Whatever it takes to try to stay healthy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Jul 22 - 07:38 AM Steve, good for you for staying home. Hope you all feel better soon. I haven't caught covid yet... Just what I wouldn't need right now. Senoufou, et ta sœur, la pauvre! |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 14 Jul 22 - 03:02 AM Many more cases in our village. I decided to go to our village hall last night for the bingo, wearing a mask of course. I took a while to decide to go, and when I arrived, there sat quite a few cases of Covid who swore they felt better (but had they tested negative or not?) I didn't win a bloomin' thing however, despite being only one number away from the £90 jackpot. Serves me right! I shan't go again - a mask doesn't always protect one completely (or so says my knowledgeable retired-doctor sister!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 22 - 09:29 AM At least I have a test kit now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 22 - 09:26 AM Make that line fade away. Get well soon Steve. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 13 Jul 22 - 09:17 AM So two days later we are still testing positive (my line's gone faint). Mrs Steve is fine but a bit lacking in energy and all I have is a residual slight cough. There's no way we can go to Friday's Memory Café (where almost everyone will be over 75) and there's even more no way I can spend two hours in the confined space of my car on Friday with the 89-year-old lady who I fetch and carry. Had we not had test kits we'd be cracking on as normal. Ho hum. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 22 - 08:43 AM Infection rates are up 8% for now. Deaths are for the most part optional for the vaccine resistant or the poor countries. Still no one is beyond redemption. What a long strange trip its been. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Jul 22 - 10:20 AM As the BA.5 variant spreads, the risk of coronavirus reinfection grows America has decided the pandemic is over. The coronavirus has other ideas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 11 Jul 22 - 07:03 PM Mrs Steve and I are peed off because all the advice for people without test kits (which is most people) is that you can go out and about if you feel better, no temperature, etc., after five days. So we still have some test kits, we've been testing ourselves, we feel well but are still testing positive...so we are stuck at home. Not legally, but because we think we should. A lady who does deliveries for one of the courier companies came round today. We know her well, she's a lovely lady who loves being part of the community and we usually have a really good old banter. Today we had to tell her to keep her distance. She told us that she's scared of catching it because she can't afford to take time off work, that she has her kids to feed, she can hardly afford to pay her bills and that there's no way she could afford to buy test kits. The other week she felt unwell, but just shut it out and carried on working. And who's to blame her? There must be millions like her. Ending the free supply of test kits was a big mistake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Jul 22 - 04:17 PM Alas, that is what I've read, that the new variants can clobber someone who already had an earlier version of COVID. Don't feel safe just because you caught it once and survived, it can come back again. Damn. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 11 Jul 22 - 12:38 PM Its not likely but a person can catch the highly contagious variant every month. Vaccine prevents dire symptoms but the new normal of an annual estimated flu vaccine and multiple covid varient boosters are probably the new normal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 11 Jul 22 - 08:02 AM Day 8 for both of us and we've both just tested positive, though we both feel well and have almost lost all the symptoms. We're stuck at home for at least a couple more days then. Bummer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jul 22 - 01:58 PM Before Fauci got 'distracted' by Covid he was working on a flu vaccine that disrupts the nucleus of a flu virus and not just its receptors that look more stubby than the corona virus. He was hoping to create that lifetime vaccine that Steve speculates. The flu virus may have billions of years of an evolutionary head start over Fauci but I wish him luck. Life and near life is found in the newest 1965 Cerxes volcanic island trapped deep within the magma that the volcano deposited. Little single celled life feeds on the rock/heat at three times the boiling point of water. This gives some push to the pan spermia theory in my way of thinking. The evolution of life could have begun billions of years before Earth even formed. Time plus evolution can make a flu virus one tough little tenacious bug. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Jul 22 - 10:36 AM I had my second booster + flu & pneumonia shots recently. I'm sure covid & flu shots will be annual. sandra |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jul 22 - 10:21 AM I get a flu shot every year because flu never goes away, it always comes back and usually in some variant. COVID will be the same, I expect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jul 22 - 09:47 AM Risking weasel words, it's predicted by those who understand epidemics far better than I do that this virus is here to stay. It may wax and wane, it may diminish in seriousness, it will almost certainly keep mutating, but it won't go away. One fine day a vaccine might be made that stops us from catching it for life. I think that's a long time off. We will live with the virus around, as with colds and flu, for the rest of our lives. Wear a mask if you want to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jul 22 - 08:55 AM Compared to past pandemics we are beyond the halfway point. These things sweep around the world with variants about 4 times but they are all a bit different. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jul 22 - 08:01 AM Well we could end up wearing masks for the rest of our lives, couldn't we, now that we seem to be accepting that the thing will always be with us. Let's all get boosted and occasionally test ourselves, then live the normal lives we do when colds and flu are going around. We can wear masks if we want to. Vaccinated and boosted people are not dying and few end up in hospital. No more masks for me unless the law forces them on me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Jul 22 - 06:31 AM here in the Land of Oz health authorities are suggesting more mask wearing & boosters as "More than 3,700 Australians are in hospital with COVID-19, the most since February" but the Happy People are socialising & crowding & having a wonderful time - cos, in the words of the bloke who yelled at a mask wearer recently "Take that mask off, it's gone!" New mask mandates all but ruled out around Australia as Covid cases surge Medical experts have criticised federal and state governments for “inconsistent” messaging around the looming winter virus wave, with new face mask rules all but ruled out nationwide ... “We have a population believing, and governments delivering, that Covid is in the rear-view mirror, that we’re over the worst of it, that it’s time to do away with any of the measures and move on with life,” said infectious disease expert Prof Brendan Crabb, the CEO of the Burnet Institute. “It’s always been wrong to do that, ever since Omicron arrived” ... State and federal governments have escalated warnings that Covid case numbers are set to explode in coming weeks, as Australia battles fresh outbreaks of the BA.4 and BA.5 variants. The federal health minister, Mark Butler, this week warned cases were “going to continue to rise for some time yet”, with Covid hospital admissions currently at their highest level since February. Australia recorded nearly 42,000 cases and 35 deaths in the last 24 hours. On Friday, the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) revised down its official advice on reinfection periods from 12 weeks to 28 days, warning the new variants “are associated with increased immune escape and we are likely to see rates of reinfection rise”. But despite the dire warnings, politicians have poured cold water on talk of reinstating mandates on masks, vaccinations or public health measures, even as they encourage people to voluntarily wear masks ... sandra - always masked in public transport (compulsory but many ignore the notices) & often masked in indoors, sigh (recommended, I know I'm careless but I am trying to do better) |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jul 22 - 06:04 AM God yes, the runny nose. Kleenex must be cleaning up. I'm almost completely better today but that runny nose...Mrs Steve is much better too, though hanging on to that nagging cough for longer than I did, but she'll be watching the ladies' final cuddling a box of tissues... I was still testing positive yesterday. I won't test myself again until tomorrow. We're not doing any kind of mixing at all until that little T line disappears for two days in a row. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 09 Jul 22 - 03:17 AM Just got an email from my sister. She's feeling a little better, but has lost her sense of smell and taste completely, and has a very runny nose. She's wisely relaxing on her sun-lounger with a pile of novels and a cooling drink. (Sun-lounger? Cooling drink? In Scotland?) She's still testing positive so must isolate, and she's rather lonely and bored. But she's a fabulous cook and has plans for a tagine later today. I'm very relieved. So many people have caught this latest version of Bloomin' Covid. Our village is now riddled with it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: leeneia Date: 07 Jul 22 - 01:08 PM Six friends of mine, all of them fully vaccinated, have come down with Covid in recent weeks. None had to be hospitalized, but all were miserably ill. So the DH and I are still wearing masks and avoiding crowds. I look forward to the next vaccination, which I heard will be out this fall. |
