Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 31 Jan 21 - 04:19 PM Ooops Doug, you're quite right, he hadn't received the vaccination. My mistake. I read it on Mumsnet, but the poster must have been misinformed. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Doug Chadwick Date: 31 Jan 21 - 04:00 PM I've just learned that Captain (SIR!) Tom Moore was actually vaccinated, The BBC are reporting that he had not yet received the vaccine because of the medication he was on for pneumonia. He is not in intensive care so, hopefully, he may recover. DC |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:45 PM I've just learned that Captain (SIR!) Tom Moore was actually vaccinated, which goes to show that one can still contract the virus after having the jab. Hopefully however this may make his illness less severe. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 31 Jan 21 - 01:54 PM "Varients do have changed binding sites that makes original vaccines less effective." This is fake news. You absolutely have to STOP doing this. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 31 Jan 21 - 01:49 PM Captain Tom Moore now has Covid. He was admitted to hospital with pneumonia, and a few days later it was confirmed he now has Covid too. The man is 100, and was knighted by the Queen for his indomitable efforts to walk around his residence to raise money for the NHS. So ironic. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 31 Jan 21 - 10:52 AM Science by press release is not science. But its all most of us have. Varients do have changed binding sites that makes original vaccines less effective. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Thompson Date: 30 Jan 21 - 05:52 PM pattyClink - While ventilation is important, another factor that's recently been recognised is that humidity is death to the little scamps. Don't let your home get too dried out. (I don't know how to measure humidity, unfortunately, but reckon that giving the washing a final dry on racks and radiators probably helps.) bonzo3legs - Sympathies for the greyhound. I used to have a dog that had big trouble with eczema and it turned out to be mainly triggered by milk. My current adored-one gets diarrhoea from milk. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: punkfolkrocker Date: 30 Jan 21 - 11:40 AM Donny - Life is too stressful; and spare time is too limited to be wasted constantly trying to make sense of your lengthy self indulgent posts... Please try to communicate more effectively, with consideration for any of us struggling to search for the meaningful gems in your stream of consciousness drivel... |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 30 Jan 21 - 11:17 AM Thats the spirit Nigel - not that you can agree with me BUT that a truthful post regarding scientific findings, unencumbered with political spin or orthodox dogma, can be more helpful than believing a convenient lie. Orthodoxy is a finding plus excessive time. Its time to take a critical look at all the facts assembled over a year. Critical thinking is easy when you don't care how it reflects on us or feel any need to sugar coat a damn thing. Perhaps you even looked up the evolutionary virologist scientists I mentioned earlier. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Nigel Parsons Date: 30 Jan 21 - 09:56 AM Donuel: They also have found that covid 19 is 90% likely to be lab produced and from a scientific point of view was never a conspiracy theory but a reasoned finding We can only guess at your 'sources' (if any) as you provide no links. However: A research paper claiming to prove that the coronavirus was cooked up in a laboratory has been widely dismissed by mainstream scientists. The paper, which was posted online earlier this week and hasn’t been peer reviewed, says that “unusual features” of the virus’s genome suggest “sophisticated laboratory modification rather than natural evolution”. The authors allege that the modification of one or more bat viruses was carried out in a Chinese government laboratory in Wuhan. From New Scientist, September 2020 This response to several now-deleted COVID-19 conspiracy theory posts and responses is left because it provides a useful link. ---mudelf |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 29 Jan 21 - 10:27 AM Mrs Bonzo had the Oxford jab this afternoon, and also a nice little outing in the back of the car for our greyhound who is housebound at the moment with a nasty skin infection - rear left leg heavily bandaged and she has to wear a big cone to prevent licking the bandage. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jan 21 - 10:19 AM Attack of the varient viral mutants VVM is well underway. The great city of London is now added to apoint of origin story like Wuhan. Maybe in came from Feltwell in Norwich or Gravesend Some doctors are more concerned about the English varient than all the others. My question is will the new varients continue like the flu on an ongoing annual basis? |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Mrrzy Date: 24 Jan 21 - 09:23 AM I already read it was. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Jan 21 - 10:59 AM There are a lot of individual obituary threads for musical people who have died of COVID-19. One non-musical but very well known, at least in the US, is talk show host Larry King.
His son, Chance, confirmed King's death Saturday morning. King hosted "Larry King Live" on CNN for over 25 years, interviewing presidential candidates, celebrities, athletes, movie stars and everyday people. He retired in 2010 after taping more than 6,000 episodes of the show. A statement was posted on his verified Facebook announcing his passing. "With profound sadness, Ora Media announces the death of our co-founder, host and friend Larry King, who passed away this morning at age 87 at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles," the statement said. "For 63 years and across the platforms of radio, television and digital media, Larry's many thousands of interviews, awards, and global acclaim stand as a testament to his unique and lasting talent as a broadcaster." The statement did not give a cause of death. He was hospitalized and in the ICU in recent days, but he had a number of health issues over the years. I suspect the conclusion will be that his death was COVID-related. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: pattyClink Date: 20 Jan 21 - 01:48 PM Thanks, Sandman. I'm seeing a lot of people not 'getting' that ventilation is a really big deal; busy scrubbing doorhandles and taking their temp, while foraying into poorly ventilated indoor venues where the virus is lurking. Next issue, we have no process to 'rate' buildings as to their safety. |
Subject: RE: De-clutter & Fitness in a Pandemic: 2021 From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jan 21 - 04:22 AM https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000rcnl d Irish Times ventilation is key to stopping the spread of Covid-19 Clean air far more important than clean hands Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 00:55 Orla Hegarty
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Jan 21 - 05:56 PM It belongs in the Trump era news, for one. But it's good news wherever one reads it! |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Mrrzy Date: 15 Jan 21 - 05:28 PM Does the NRA going bankrupt belong in this or the Not About The Virus new news thread? |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 15 Jan 21 - 12:44 PM We are told to anticipate 90,000 new deaths over the next 3 weeks. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Thompson Date: 15 Jan 21 - 11:20 AM Ireland, having had the second-best figures in the world for months, allowed everyone to come home and go out and socialise over Christmas, and now has the second-worst figures in the world. People are absolutely raging, those of use who are not in hospital. Here's the graph of what our outbreak looks like (today anyway; the graph may change in time on the website as it doesn't seem to be dated). |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 15 Jan 21 - 10:45 AM Life insurance is SNAFU due to virus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-02/covid-unknowns-leave-survivors-fearing-life-insurance-rejection |
Subject: positive update on Marianne Faithfull From: keberoxu Date: 12 Jan 21 - 05:33 PM The interview in Mojo magazine is obviously from months back, as is usual with periodicals like this one. I got a look at a copy on a newsstand today, but the interview goes back to the last calendar year. "She Walks In Beauty" is going to be her latest record album, a tribute to the English Romantic poets. Marianne Faithfull is still mourning the loss of producer Hal Willner. Like her, he contracted COVID-19; unlike her, he did not recover, and died last year. Faithfull made the recording after being released from hospital. COVID-19's immediate effects were the loss of short-term memory, lung function, and her voice. She stated in the update interview that her lungs were very badly affected, but that they are healing now, adding, "My short-term memory is affected. But I'm told that when you have coronavirus as badly as I did, that happens. But your memory comes back, and mine is coming back. And my lungs are coming back too. I've made a beautiful record." |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jan 21 - 06:36 PM One supposed lockdown too many there. Oops... |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jan 21 - 05:53 PM My surmise is that the new variant IS more transmissible, and I haven't said that it isn't. But someone here has put an arbitrary figure of "70% more contagious" which was a rehashed comment made by one quasi-maverick bloke in the UK and which is a claim bereft of evidence. The responsible thing is to base our opinions on credible facts. It is not responsible to jump on a titbit of a unsupported comment made by one person and use it to tell people of more measured opinion that they are pretending. That's all. And there's no need for you to disagree. I'd be quite happy to be wrong. The infection rate here has burgeoned. It is a cold winter. Ten million people in London and around were in an ineffective tier until not long before Christmas. The government failed to call a firebreak at the October half term. Instead, we had a panic-stricken December lockdown...in which schools were allowed to stay open, fer chrissake. Secondary schools in particular are known to be virus pits. All through the autumn, people from the most infected areas were allowed to go on holiday in droves. Here in Cornwall, where rates have been low, we were swamped with tourists from the biggest and most infected urban areas right up to the beginning of November. It was actually phenomenal. Round here today, the roads are as busy as ever. In the March lockdown, in contrast, there was no traffic. Yesterday, in a supposed lockdown, in a three-mile drive from Bude to my house, I saw five motor homes and a camper van, on the first day of a supposed lockdown, and the locals round here can tell you of second homes still occupied. Yes there is a variant that may be - probably is - more transmissible. That variant first exploded into action in London and around, a big crowded city that was still enjoying it pub and cafe culture. But when you're trying to get your head around the parlous state the country is in, to use "a more transmissible variant" as the exclusive explanation as to why we have so many infections is just what this benighted government wants you to think. Nice way of diverting the blame away from them. In all probability, it is just one factor among all the others I've just listed. Let's not be taken in, and let's go with all the caveats that you can pick out in this post, if you bother to look. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Rain Dog Date: 06 Jan 21 - 02:36 PM Over a 1000 covid related deaths announced today in the UK. Highest daily rate since April Surrey and Sussex hospitals declare major incident due to large number of covid patients being treated. Heard today that vaccine will start to be issued here in Dover and Deal from week starting 11th January. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Rain Dog Date: 06 Jan 21 - 12:23 PM I can't agree with you Steve. Here in Dover along with most of Kent,rates were low before the 4 week lockdown in November. I have said before that the rate in Dover was in the low double figures. During lockdown the rates started to rise in Medway, Swale and Thanet, the north and north east areas of Kent. Some people thought the rise in Swale was connected to the number of prisons there. Others put it down to lack of social distancing. The rates then started to increase through Kent. We ended lockdown and went into tier 3 and then tier 4. The rates continued to increase. In all this time I did not notice any major change in people's behaviour. I would watch the local news each night and was puzzled by the continuing rise. I watched it sweep through Kent and then continue westward into Sussex. Something was amiss. I think that it is safe to say that it is more transmissible, worryingly so. I think that the authorities were slow to react. They certainly had more information than I did. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Mrrzy Date: 06 Jan 21 - 12:20 PM The scariest stat I saw today was loss of smell and taste in 86% of mild cases. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:59 AM It may seem non sequitur to leave Jeri's post after several others were removed, but these two can serve as a reminder that the running battles from one thread to another are not acceptable. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Jeri Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:37 AM Maggie got it right. I see it more like you have certain people you hate, designated adversaries, and so it's fair for you to make personal attacks. It's not. While you're a member here, the personal attacks, the "stalking" will be deleted. That's the last I'll say about it. Tangential, but mostly off-topic. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:17 AM Thank you very much Sandra. As I understand it, being black increases the chances of being very ill/dying from the virus. I suppose the schools are being treated as childcare centres so that the parents can go to work. But secondary school pupils are surely capable of looking after themselves at home? My sister and I did while our mother worked, even during the school holidays. I also feel sorry for the teachers. At least the supermarket Morrisons is giving all 'frontline workers' a 10% reduction on their bill at the checkout, on production of the ID badge. Husband proudly shows his badge and the lady always says, "Stay safe!" |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:16 AM It's not unlikely that the new variant is becoming prevalent due to natural selection. Another point is that London, along with other parts of the south-east the main focus of the variant's explosive spread, was, until recently, under very mild restrictions (Tier 2), which are now regarded as having been ineffective. New variant that was maybe SLIGHTLY more transmissible, huge crowded city, indulgent restrictions regime, a penchant for many Londoners to pile down to Cornwall and Devon for their late holidays...As with everything, nothing is simple and nothing can be ascribed to a single factor. My hunch is that the variant IS more transmissible, but that only a fool would put a percentage on it, and we must use that to explain its spread only when we take all those other issues into account. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: punkfolkrocker Date: 06 Jan 21 - 10:56 AM Apparently.. [ie, I switched TV on near the end of a news item, so missed most details].. Covid deniers had to be ejected from a sterile ICU area of a UK hospital after invading to photograph 'proof' that the virus is a hoax...!!!????? When are these fukwits going to get prison time, instead of minor reprimands, or petty fines that will probably be paid by crowd funders.. If the worry is prison will make martyrs of them, surely there are other ways to really punish such covidiot wankers... |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 06 Jan 21 - 09:01 AM We CAN pretend that new varient virus are not 70% more contagious/ We can pretend that virus won't continue to mutate. We can pretend there is no such thing as virus'. In our teenage years it was normal to feel almost immortal. In our heart we all enjoy pretending. The crazy people don't know they are pretending. Sane people just pretend quietly and in private moments. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Jan 21 - 08:47 AM not a good situation for anyone. I hope it improves, but from what I've read about UK situation, it is not good. best wishes & hugs to you both sandra Prime Minister's speech, 5th Jan |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Senoufou Date: 06 Jan 21 - 08:10 AM Boris announced on Monday evening that all schools would be 'closed tomorrow' except for the children of key workers. Since my husband is a full-time school cleaner he was left wondering if he'd be needed or not. His team of cleaners comprises about fifteen people. Not a peep from his school either on their website or by phone. So he went in as usual yesterday, the date term was supposed to start. There were only ten pupils (secondary school and sixth-form college) so he did some 'deep-cleaning' and was sent home a few hours early. He was told to keep going in, and next week all the cleaners will be split into pairs per day. His day will be Fridays. I can't see how this is protecting anybody. None of the ten pupils have been tested and are not wearing masks. The teacher/s are still being exposed to possible infection. And my husband has only been given a little paper mask to wear. I'm terrified he gets Covid, and I'm surprised his Union (Unison) hasn't spoken up about this. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: punkfolkrocker Date: 05 Jan 21 - 01:49 PM She's not a crazy person... Neither are all the not crazy people leaving not crazy comments of support for her... Just understand they are not the crazy folks.. WE are...!!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Charmion's brother Andrew Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:54 PM Here's a CBC News piece about a Newfound folksong parody that's on-topic. ;) |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Donuel Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:21 PM I know what you mean but denial rivals survival. Denial is always the first response An Alzheimer syndrome seems to accompagny covid infection beyond the mildest symptoms and even compromises blood brain barriers. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Jeri Date: 05 Jan 21 - 11:51 AM It's part of a military type of triage, because in wartime, resources are limited. The "expectant" triage category, which doesn't typically exist in "normal life", is when a patient is expected to die without heroic intervention. They're dealing with reality, which sucks. Look to all those "we don't believe Covid is real", or "we're tired of wearing masks and distancing" people for the reasons. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Mrrzy Date: 05 Jan 21 - 09:52 AM Los Angeles County has had to tell its ambulances not to even bother transporting people "with little chance of survival" and to conserve O2. Giving people no chance of survival. Great. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 04 Jan 21 - 08:13 PM Here in Australia's biggest city we have a couple of big hotspots & some lockdowns, but folk from these clusters have gone about their business not knowing they have covid so other suburbs & country towns are at risk. States have locked their boarders against travellers from other states. Country towns have been mainly covid free so far. Today's news - People in Broken Hill (1200 km from Sydney), Orange (250km) and Nyngan (550km) urged to come forward for testing after man travelled for camping trip. Finally our state Premier has ordered (rather than strongly advising) mask to be worn on public transport & inside shopping centers, shops & other premises. Folk with medical conditions that make wearing a mask difficult or dangerous are exempt, but of course some folk know rules don't apply to them. They have god?-given rights, but as a cartoonist put it "Your right not to wear a mask ends at my nasal passages." Where to buy reusable face masks in Australia – and how to make your own |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Rain Dog Date: 04 Jan 21 - 06:26 PM New news is just the old news again here in the UK. Back to full lockdown in England.No real surprise there. Yet again I have to ask who is in charge of pr/communication for the Government? Who ever it is they are doing a pretty poor job. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:05 PM Here's that story about a costume with a fan spreading COVID-19. A well-meaning gesture at a California hospital may have backfired this Christmas: To celebrate the holiday, an emergency room employee at Kaiser Permanente San Jose briefly wore an inflatable costume to work on December 25. Hospital officials are now looking into whether the costume's fan may have splayed infectious particles across the emergency department. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: punkfolkrocker Date: 03 Jan 21 - 01:31 PM Bonz - perhaps this year they are waiting to see if they snuff it from covid, before bothering with the hassle of tax forms...??? |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 03 Jan 21 - 01:13 PM I wish many of our clients would do that, always last minute and only send half of the information!! |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Jos Date: 03 Jan 21 - 12:09 PM HMRC send me emails from about April onwards telling me that my tax return is due and urging me to hurry up and send it in - even though I don't need to do it until January. It isn't as if it comes as a surprise. Mine is very straightforward - it takes me about a day, and then I check it again the next day before sending it in. If it was so complicated I needed an accountant I would give him or her the figures in plenty of time so there would be no need to extend the deadline. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 03 Jan 21 - 11:58 AM None of our clients fall into that category. It doesn't matter whether you are in the 1% or the 99%, if you are required to complete a tax return, the deadline is 31 January. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Steve Shaw Date: 03 Jan 21 - 07:16 AM Yep, first things first, eh, Bonzo? Put accountants first in line for the jab! Very timely of you to post that, as I've just read that 1% of the population owns 25% of the wealth... |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: Bonzo3legs Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:55 AM Whilst I agree 100% that measures must be put in place to keep teachers safe, so also must accountants - who provide an ignored essential service, be kept safe by extending the tax return deadline to 28 February or even 31 March, to allow remote working which is very much slower. |
Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 From: mg Date: 03 Jan 21 - 02:07 AM from california...43 cases of covid in emergency department staff..or perhaps including other staff..they are saying someone wearing a christmas tree costume..with a fan to keep it inflated..perhaps spread it. if so...probably the stupidest thing i have heard. Google it..if it is true..the basic story is true..it is beyond belief. |