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BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19

Stilly River Sage 16 Dec 21 - 11:04 AM
Nigel Parsons 16 Dec 21 - 10:11 AM
Donuel 16 Dec 21 - 06:26 AM
Steve Shaw 15 Dec 21 - 07:54 PM
Donuel 15 Dec 21 - 07:38 PM
Steve Shaw 14 Dec 21 - 02:04 PM
Donuel 14 Dec 21 - 01:20 PM
Nigel Parsons 14 Dec 21 - 12:04 PM
Charmion 14 Dec 21 - 09:26 AM
Donuel 14 Dec 21 - 08:41 AM
Donuel 14 Dec 21 - 07:35 AM
Steve Shaw 12 Dec 21 - 06:22 PM
Sandra in Sydney 12 Dec 21 - 06:05 PM
Stilly River Sage 12 Dec 21 - 09:42 AM
Steve Shaw 12 Dec 21 - 09:26 AM
Mrrzy 12 Dec 21 - 09:22 AM
Donuel 12 Dec 21 - 08:35 AM
Steve Shaw 12 Dec 21 - 06:37 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Dec 21 - 11:04 AM

My next door neighbor was complaining about a cold last week when we spoke over the back fence. Last night she texted to say she got three tests (Flu, something else, and COVID) and the COVID came back positive. So I'm being cautious and getting a test this morning. I've been around people since I spoke to her with the cold, so need to do my own little contact tracing routine.

This kind of thing should stop people in their tracks. Cancel appointments, don't go shopping, or anything indoors or around people, until the test results are back. I asked for the more sensitive PCR test that takes a day or two for results.

The neighbor is a non-vaccinated Trump supporter. We NEVER talk politics in order to keep the goodwill of the neighborhood up and running (I'm surrounded by Trump supporters - though the folks across the street, they were Biden voters.) After I get what I expect to be negative results I'll drop off stuff on her front porch until she can come out again.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Dec 21 - 10:11 AM

Donuel:
The UK (70% vaccinated) hit its all time high for covid cases.
Any reference for that statement?

In the last few days UK has reached a new high for the number of new cases identified. - correct
"All time high for covid cases" - pure assumption based on a lack of knowledge!
As UK is regularly increasing the number of tests administered (especially because of Omicron) it would be surprising if the number of positive tests was not increasing.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 21 - 06:26 AM

Best wishes mr. x
The UK (70% vaccinated) hit its all time high for covid cases.
That means the US is next. My wish is that all mr. x's learn that mitigating factors matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Dec 21 - 07:54 PM

Sod off. Nobody calls me Stevie. Comprenez, dummydonny? And our December holidays are called Christmas. Holidays my fat arse.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Dec 21 - 07:38 PM

Stevie, happy holidays.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 02:04 PM

I think you should indeed name names. That way, you can't be accused of being shifty and dishonest, as well as of frequently losing your nerve, risks you always seem to be taking. I'm no fan of the Good Book, but I understand that the good Lord advised that our speech should be yea yea, nay nay. Read it and learn.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 01:20 PM

I trust a chef with the best sense of smell. Those without it are probably giving themselves and others heartburn. I suspect your cooking is friendlier than the recipees of he who shall not be named. He said to Jeri that he takes antacids often. -or maybe its all the wine.-

Nigel, perhaps it has been tested since 1899. HEK celle are used in development and safety testing. I think the ancient Greeks used willow bark.

Now there are 2 Supream Court Justices who believe drugs and vaccines contain human fetal tissue.

Extreme opinion alert:
Seeing is believing, or so it is said. To gain social respondsibilty I suggest televising a six year old's last Covid breaths despite being aided with oxygen mask and ventillator. Show hundreds of people from kids to strong young men gasping from not being vaccinated.
Hippa privacy be damned. Make it real to people spouting fallacy.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 12:04 PM

Donuel: 30 common medications that used fetal cell lines during research and development. The list includes acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft.

Seriously?
Aspirin was first named, by Bayer, in 1899. Were they seriously using foetal cells for R&D prior to that date?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Charmion
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 09:26 AM

I have a really sharp olfactory sense for a human, and I lose it whenever I catch a bad cold. In fact, that's the worst part of a bad cold for me, even worse than the inevitable slide to bronchitis that follows it. Pure misery. One of the many reasons I dread catching COVID-19, as if the threat of death weren't enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 08:41 AM

30 common medications that used fetal cell lines during research and development. The list includes acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft.

However there are thousands...

Perhaps big pharma is not pleased with the pro life lies.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 21 - 07:35 AM

Even a US Supream Court judge is falling for the misinformation from pro lifers claiming the vaccines contain fetal tissue. an example of pro life LIES

The judge believes that a religious exception is therefore needed.

The truth is every drug you have ever taken has been TESTED on HEV 293 cells from 50 years ago to determine safety but they contain no HEK cells. Human Embryo Kidney cells.

Here is an example of drugs that were subject to HEK cell safety tests
https://www.winonadailynews.com/community/houstonconews/lifestyles/frank-bures-fetal-cell-lines-essential-to-modern-medicine/art


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 06:22 PM

Yes, I saw that, Sandra. The last thing I want to do is to drag Trump into this thread, but all I was saying is that here in Blighty we definitely don't see Trump as irrelevant. To my mind, he's a massive threat to the planet, especially if he gets in again.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 06:05 PM

Steve, the Trump pics are the last 2 in the link I posted 12 Dec 21 - 03:10 AM

Online COVID-19 misinformation made fighting the outbreak in Binjari even harder ... The Binjari Community Aboriginal Corporation said much of the abuse they received was from so-called "concerned citizens" from the USA ...

Binjari is a remote indigenous community in Australia's Top End, pop. 195 (2016), 18km from the nearest big town & 300km from the state capital, Darwin


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 09:42 AM

anosmic - that's a problem, I imagine? How does food taste?

With practice your sense of smell can be very precise. Years ago I worked for the Forest Service as a fire fighter, and got pretty good at distinguishing what was burning (wood, leaves, grass, duff, etc.) and that extends to household items over the years. I find myself identifying grassfires and such in the area when the wind is blowing just right.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 09:26 AM

I'm normal. Having said that, I find some tangerines that Mrs Steve finds delicious to be too sharp to eat.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 09:22 AM

I am anosmic to a lot of bad smells. Can't tell if milk is off, or mold invades, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 08:35 AM

Olifaction is indeed a critical and relatively undiscovered field. I have met olfactory specialists who know very little.
I suffer from a highly acute sense of smell. Its well into the canine sensory spectrum. A forest or body of water can be overwhelming. The reaction can range from ambrosia to gagging. A well developed sense of smell includes 3D location and 5 part per billion awareness.
I have often said I have dog's sense of the world as well as having 8 canine teeth instead of which 4 were removed. Also my nasal air passage is the size of quarters as a result of deviated septum surgury which chiseled out the bone while I was awake to control blood loss. The feeling of acute smell sensitivity is that certain aromas feel like colors as well as smell.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 06:37 AM

I can't recall seeing any of that. I would propose, however, that Trump is relevant to the whole planet. Or will be (again) if those sleepy yanks let him back in...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 05:00 AM

some of our protestors get a tad confused - Trump 2024 in an Australian march? Do people in your country include references to Trump or other topics not relevant to the UK?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 04:09 AM

It's important that we maintain the distinction between anti-vaxxers and people who oppose mandatory vaccination. In the latter camp, what's more, there are shades of opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 03:10 AM

Here in the land of Oz "freedom" marchers were making a nuisance of themselves again

caption on all the photos - Anti-vaccine mandate rally in Sydney which moved from Hyde Park down to Alfred Park where it accumulated in talks and music.

accumulated??? - Some years back the paper got rid of it's proofreaders & other unnecessary staff.

dunno why the last couple of pics show anti-vaxxers carrying Trump banners. Maybe they were the same folk who carried posters about losing their 14th amendment rights recently.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Dec 21 - 02:18 PM

New cool research on olfaction thanks to the covid anosmia thing!

Blicky


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:39 PM

Hostile to fat cells, eh?
Shhh ... somebody might try to profit from it ...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:38 PM

The conspiratorial power of the anagram is nothing compared to Q anon parents binding the foreheads of their infants to 3 year olds so that the conehead adults will have the appearence of heads twice as big and
intelligent as well as immediately identifying the Q Anon 1st generation pure bloods. BTW The antivaxxers are diversifying their interests to include any preventive strategy regarding oil and gas and woke fake climate change.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:36 AM

Cilantro mode. Ugh.

Bipolar puts me at 2.5xgreater risk of dying if I do get Covid. Schizophrenics, too. Controlling for other risk factors.

Lots of new data coming in.

It attacks fat cells, and the immune system fat manages. Explains why obesity is succh a risk factor.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:31 AM

Like "The masque of the red death", surely the anagram is "DOOM IN CLARET". Wine drinkers beware ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 03:35 AM

Meantime,“ Conspiracy-Theorists have discovered that DELTA OMICRON is an anagram for MEDIA CONTROL. Just wait until they also discover that it’s an anagram for CILANTRO MODE, CLARINET DOOM, and DEMOCRAT LION.”
@Nora Loretto, Twitter.

…or even EROTIC ALMOND :-) :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Dec 21 - 01:46 PM

Meanwhile, in Oslo, Norway,
at the same time that Amsterdam was coping with two passenger plane arrivals from South Africa,
a corporate party took place.
All one hundred twenty employees had been fully vaccinated beforehand,
and had in addition tested negative on COVID screening tests just before the party.

Reuters reports that the corporate Christmas dinner,
held at an Oslo restaurant, resulted in
a super-spreader event.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 21 - 08:36 PM

As per ANP and the NL Times,
since those Friday (last friday, still in November 2021)
arrivals of a total of 624 passengers on two planes
in Amsterdam from South Africa
(one from Johannesburg, one from Cape Town),
repeated screening and testing this past week
have returned enough negative results that
some quarantined passengers have been released to continue going home.

The quarantine hotel (a Ramada Inn) near the Amsterdam airport
had 44 passengers, all of whom had been screened on arrival
and whose tests had showed positive,
isolated there over the weekend.

On Wednesday test results came back negative for roughly twenty
of the quarantine-hotel passengers, and they were released.
The reports released to the news media
maintain standards of privacy and confidentiality such that
no Omicron figures are given regarding those passengers
whose Wednesday test results were positive
and who remain in quarantine near the airport.

There were about twenty passengers
who were Amsterdam/Dutch locals and were permitted, upon arrival,
to go home in order to quarantine there,
instead of in the Ramada Inn.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Dec 21 - 06:41 AM

No new news until enough time has passed to demonstrate an effect on death rates and not just mild symptoms among the vaccinated. That time is usually 2 to 6 weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Dec 21 - 06:38 AM

...Except that we have a "new" variant that seems to be running rampant, and Christmas is threatened, and there was a illegal party in Downing Street on the day before Johnson cancelled last Christmas, and Germany is going to enforce vaccination, and Greece is fining people €100 per month if they refuse the jab, and we'll be wearing masks until the day we die (and probably for a few days afterwards...)

So, Nigel, move along there...Nothing to see here...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Dec 21 - 05:42 AM

1900:

As there's really not much new 'news' available.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Dec 21 - 06:19 PM

For those who are interested, a report on this week's

SNAFU, in the literal military sense of the word, at the Amsterdam airport,
which is going to be a while living down
what this does to its reputation --
the airport, KLM Airlines, ...
at one point the border police patrol were called because
no one else would respond to the passengers' phone calls and texts!
What a mess.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Dec 21 - 10:56 AM

Bipolar and some other mental illnesses have been added to the list of These make covid worse. Great.

One source here: Click.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 21 - 06:48 AM

Still only anecdotal info with sample sizes too small to have significance.

'News' on the Fox right is a global Biden conspiracy regarding 'Omnichrome' and Dr. Fauci and Dr. Mengele have much in common.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-1.1.1.596
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 21 - 03:51 PM

The earliest data shows no significant rise in hospitalizations or death rates. These results may only be perspicatious and not a proven scientific fact. Whats good is a protease protection but unknown increased mutation rates are generally bad. So there is no dreadful news today.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Nov 21 - 01:32 PM

The drama continues, regardless of plot thickening or not thickening.

So, meanwhile, back in Amsterdam:
Sixty-one arriving airplane passengers tested positive for COVID.
No specifying which strain of COVID.
All sixty-one were urgently requested to isolate and quarantine in a hotel.

What also is not specified, is if there were additional passengers
whose test results were negative, but who were
spouses or relatives or partners of those who tested positive,
and who have stayed with them in isolation regardless.

Latest AFP update states:
Thirteen of those sixty-one [people] have tested positive for the new Omicron variant.

In the meanwhile, some of these passengers had flown to Amsterdam
in hopes of changing planes and going somewhere else to go home.

One adult couple went so far as to not only leave the hotel --
"In the Netherlands, it is NOT illegal to be outside when you have [positive results from COVID screening]" --
but they bought tickets and got on a plane to Spain
"But when you go into a plane knowing you have it, then it is another story".

Details remain incomplete to the point of being misleading.
It is further stated that
only one person in this couple
had had positive results from the COVID screening test.
Which variant is left unstated.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 21 - 01:18 PM

I don't think in those terms so I looked it up. My state is 50% white, Idaho is 82% white and SA is 10% white. You could just as easily conclude that nearness to the Equator is the main factor in Covid variants and black population. Delta was traced to India and Covid to China. Population density and vaccination rates may be more relevant imo regardless of race or climate. It is as meaningless as comparing burka wearing infection rates vs. spring break bikinis.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 21 - 08:54 PM

Absolutely right. I said to Mrs Steve this evening that the constant emphasis on this variant coming from South Africa has more that just a little racist tinge about it. The bloody thing has likely been everywhere for weeks or months. I mean, what percentage of people with this virus are ever tested to see which strain they have?

Let's not be manipulated...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Nov 21 - 05:06 PM

There is a meme making the rounds that bears consideration:

Sent by a discussion list moderator, they preface the meme by stating "If you're seeing the 'variant started in SA' take, push back on it. It's based in racism."

The statement from Graeme Codrington (I looked him at at TomorrowToday, he's an expert (their words) speaker on the subject of the "Future of Work" and "disruptive change.")

Once again the world's media is reporting: "South Africa has a new Covid variant" as if the variant started here and is infecting us all.

CAN I SAY THIS GAIN, MORE LOUDLY FOR THE IDIOT JOURNALISTS AT THE BACK: South Africa has one of the most sophisticated and advanced infectious diseases infrastructure on the planet. Some of the world's leading epidemiologists work in South Africa. We've had to develop these capabilities to deal with TB and AIDS and other diseases ravaging our continent.

It is no surprise that our medical system is the first in the world to identify new Covid variants. It is no surprise that we led the world in clinical trials of vaccines.

What IS a surprise is how lazy journalists write headlines: "New Covid variant in South Africa." No, this new Covid variant has been found in New Zealand, England, Brazil, France, India, Indonesia, the Philippines and other places. South African scientists isolated, sequenced and understood it first. Report THAT face, but don't start all. . .


The screenshot was blocked at that point. This guy is a Futurist who was sharing his opinion. One takeaway from this, (beyond the racism point made by the moderator who shared this somewhere), is that banning travel is probably already too late, especially if this has popped up all around the world. The fact that it was identified in South Africa may be moot. The fact that it may not have originated there (time will tell) means the safety New World nations might feel by banning travel from a third-world continent is ill-advised.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Nov 21 - 04:11 PM

Beware of the bogeyman if you want but I do not see one.
I see many in the anti vaxxers, mask deniers and twisted liberty screamers.
Beware of the self proclaimed exclusive truth authority with narcisist motives which may include some politicians.

If you hear the dam is leaking it is best check it out for yourself.
When that is impossible things get more complicated unless you rely on an authority. In pandemics my authority is Dr. Fauci.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 21 - 03:50 PM

Just keep things in perspective. It's a new variant, but, to date, the evidence that it's a faster spreader, or a worse disease, or will nobble our vaccines, simply isn't there. Beware of scaremongering, manipulative politicians.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Nov 21 - 02:24 PM

The previous posts, I looked at the most recent ones
and did not see anywhere the dreaded word
Omicron,
although the word turns up on other threads.


It's yet another wave of SARS/COVID infections,
and resulting sicknesses and deaths,
this time with the omicron mutation/variant.

The whole thing is starting to play out with
enough recapitulations and developments
for a Shakespearean play or a romantic symphony, or something.

Two planes from South Africa land in the Netherlands;
diagnostic testing/screening testing for all the passengers,
and it takes hours, and they are all crammed inside the planes;
then they decide to isolate and quarantine,
what was it, sixty-one passengers,
while the rest are let out?

Someday, those who survive this entire experience
will make dramas out of it,
and film them, and people will sit and watch the story unfold again.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 12:06 PM

1,100 high level NIH employees were asked to volunteer to forgo stay at home work schedules. 6 elected to go back to the office.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 07:18 AM

A football player Aron Rogers claims he is allergic to the vaccine but took Ivermectin and then got Covid. He said he was immunized but basicly lied. He said he's gotta be himself despite being attacked by the woke mob but I fear he is allergic to the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 08:21 AM

US opens to the world


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 07:07 AM

The Supream Court is bound to support the vaccine or testing mandate.
One person's freedom does not overide everyone else's freedom.
This is not the opinion of the wealthiest Americans however.
They think unlimited cash overides everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 03:53 PM

If I were a religious believer, and told either Biden or trump was satan in disguise,
I'm fairly sure I'd be able to guesss which of 'em..

However, your yank neo-facist evangelical covidiot preachers/internet influencers
seem to have real problems working this one out...???

.. the devil's work is never done...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 03:42 PM

29 States are bringing lawsuits to stop the mandates.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 01:02 PM

Biden has pushed out (through OSHA, I think) a mandate that all US companies with more than 100 employees must have employees vaccinated or be subjected to frequent testing. There is pushback from various states' governors.


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