Sir Bob Davenport

Subject: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:08 AM

Should he be knighted for his contributions to folk music

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:20 AM

Rubbish

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:29 AM

He's not quite that bad Bozo :-)
Jim

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:45 AM

Some other possible early singers too ~ and still alive ~ but what about the source singers??

Ray

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:49 AM

Jeannie Robertson once summed up awards perfectly
"They gave me an MBE but I still have trouble being served in some shops"
Jim Caroll

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,DAVID NUTTALL
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:59 AM

No need to be insulting towards Bob and his contributions ...civility costs nowt. Regarding SOURCE singers......they're O.K I suppose !!!! But maybe you prefer H P......higher pitched !!!!

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 04:25 AM

"civility costs nowt."
I would have nop problem with thet if bob extended the same courtesy to others - he tends not to
Jim

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 05:05 AM

I'm pleased to agree with you Jim!!

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Gordon Jackson
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 05:35 AM

I'm not a fan of the honours system, but if I were, I think Martin Carthy MBE should be at the head of the queue. And while we're at it, Richard Thompson OBE as well!

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim McLean
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 06:06 AM

There's a whole shower that accepted "honours" including Jimmie Maxgregor and Archie Fisher.
Notably Hamish Henderson and Marion Blythman refused.

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Vic Smith
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 06:16 AM

Knowing something of Bob's politics, I think that if he had been offered any sort of government award - especially one that had EMPIRE as part of it; he would have told them where to stuff it.

It reminds me of the day when Hamish Henderson was nominated for an award in the days of the Thatcher government. In protest of the Thatcher government's nuclear weapons policy, he publicly turned down an OBE.
This led to one of my favourite front page banner headlines. This is what The Scotsman made of it -

HAMISH HENDERSON NO B E

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 06:30 AM

Wouldn't it be great if, instead of this sort of lip-service, the establishment gave the respect due to many of the the recipients by supporting what they represented in more practical ways ?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 06:36 AM

Martin Carthy already has the MBE.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 07:18 AM

Indeed. So if the ranking goes MBE, OBE, CBE, Knighthood, then giving Mr Davenport a knighthood suggests his contribution to folk music is several degrees of magnitude greater than Mr Carthy's; I think not!

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 07:58 AM

I would have thought a possible guideline could be the esteem of the EFDSS award system, firstly?

Should the likes of John Kirkpatrick, Martyn Whyndham ~ Read, Nick Jones, Dave Burland and others come into consideration ~ or will we simply see the crop of current young thruster trump the lot?

Ray

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 08:25 AM

wyndham read, nic jones.

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Hagman
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 08:52 AM

Richard Thompson has an OBE....

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 03:34 PM

OBE, CBE ??- Bob would tell them where to put it- preferably sideways

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,big al whittle
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 04:20 PM

Who cares what the establishment ahinks or says about our music?

A more positive step would be if we all stopped being bitchy about each other. If we could manage being courteous and respectful of each other's life's work - from Jasper Carrot to Bob Copper (all artistic endeavours with a folk club genesis) - maybe, just maybe,   the rest of the world would start to take us seriously.

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,Roger
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 04:24 PM

Quite right Mr Whittle.

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 04:29 PM

At least Hamish was nominated ~ reasons for refusal to accept were a different matter! Would he have accepted other than the fact that MT was PM?

Roy Bailey sent his back I believe

Gongs are nominated by individuals from all areas of UK followers and groups ~not sure what happens after that

Ray

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,big al whittle
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 04:39 PM

A local headmistress got an OBE when I was a kid. For ages, I believed it stood for 'Orrible Bleedin' 'Edmistress - my sister was the source of this information

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 06 Apr 20 - 09:23 PM

Harry Cox was asked how he felt about being awarded the gold badge (as they still were in those days - they are now gold plated) of the EFDSS.
He said that was very nice but a small pension of 10 bob a week would be more useful!

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Apr 20 - 03:50 AM

Harry was right

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 07 Apr 20 - 06:37 AM

Bob now has the O.B.E.
   Taffy Thomas once said to me Bob's good pal Ted Poole had the O.B.E.- I was a bit surprised as Ted was not a likely candidate (!)

No, not the usual O.B.E       OVER BLOODY EIGHTY

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 07 Apr 20 - 06:52 AM

In 2000, Roy Bailey was appointed MBE, although he returned the award in 2006 in protest against British support of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Apr 20 - 07:14 AM

Brian McNeil wrote a tune in honour of Hamish Henderson, it's called, ' Hamish Hendersons Refusal '

Dave H