BS: New news *not* about the virus

Subject: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Apr 20 - 10:54 PM

Virginia is acting like a grownup, passing legislation increasing gun control, protecting abortion rights, and expanding voting rights. They also (finally) got rid of Lee-Jackson day, although, to be fair, when I first moved here we had Lee-Jackson-King day, I kid you not, as the Feds imposed MLK day on top of prexisting L-J day. They eventually moved L-J to the Friday before, making for a 4-day weekend.

Now, *that* will be missed.

What non-virus-related stories are you finding in your local papers? Good news preferred but interested in anything.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 04:53 AM

the four-leaf clover season is well under way. I am hoarding them (Oh! Hus ma mouth!)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 05:23 AM

Sun's fair blazin' innit!!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:34 AM

The bilby is Australia's very own Easter bunny, but how much do you actually know about it? Forget Easter bunnies, in Australia we're all about the Easter bilby*
The bilby is a small native marsupial with huge ears and a pointy snout that makes it look like a cross between a bandicoot and a hare, but with extra fluffiness.

*We have been assured that the Easter bilby is also an essential worker and will be distributing eggs this Easter.

Wikipedia - Easter Bilby (books & merchandise)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:37 AM

but what about the quokka?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 09:45 AM

The UK politics thread is more entertaining than watching the Life of Brian scene, "Aside from the roads, health care, schools, aquaduct, sanitation, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

If Iains is the winner of the Insult King Award and Steve is the 3rd runner up who wants the right to have babies, who is second runner up?
I'm tellin ya Bull Shit, its not good for ya.

Now for new News:

Pay Pal is approved to give out pandemic relief money.
Is this too virusy?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:36 AM

this Easter quokka?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 11:11 AM

Also new law allows us to get rid of the confederate statues that caused all the trouble in Charlottesville.

Wonder how *that* will go.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Apr 20 - 10:16 PM

Goons will not replace us.

Even Germany doesn't display Nazi statues of Gherring , Goebbles and Ribentrop.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 01:04 AM

Virginia has apparently kind of decriminalized pot. I tell ya, we are adulting all over the place.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 07:10 AM

The difference between my State and your State used to be VA made the weapons and MD made the medical treatments to save its victims.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Apr 20 - 08:35 AM

I don't think I realized we were neighbors...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Apr 20 - 01:32 AM

Prickles the sheep returns home to Dunalley farm after fleeing 2013 bushfires

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: JennieG
Date: 16 Apr 20 - 07:23 AM

Prickles has quite a fleece! Will be interesting to see how much it weighs.

We used to have a cat called Prickle, a black and white puss......lived to be 15 or so......our boys gave her the name. When we were bringing her home in the car from the animal shelter she was stretching and 'kneading' as cats do; "she's very prickly" said the boys. And so 'Prickle' she became.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Apr 20 - 06:47 PM

Aw, Brian Dennehey died. I liked him though I confused him a lot with Brian Keith. Whom I also liked.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia
Date: 16 Apr 20 - 07:21 PM

It's not local news, but see my thread on amazing sea creatures filmed off western Australia.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Apr 20 - 09:47 PM

amazing sea creatures here - https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=167634&messages=2&threadid=167634&messages=2

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Apr 20 - 11:49 AM

Cool stuff! And neanderthals had string.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Apr 20 - 08:31 AM

On an unhappy note, mass shooting in Nova Scotia (of all places). Thoughts, but not prayers, in my case.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Apr 20 - 09:28 PM

Interesting toke, er, take: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/20/21225731/what-is-420-coronavirus-marijuana-legalization-covid-19

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 07:37 AM

The price of oil is A MINUS $37 per barrel. Thats right because it costs money to store surplus oil, buyers are paid by the sellers.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 08:16 AM

The Lyrids peak tonight, a-wimoweh.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 06:39 PM

The perfect supream leader of North Korea had heart surgury and is in critical condition.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 07:36 PM

Mrzzy you posted "Oh weem oway"

Heres one

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Apr 20 - 09:35 PM

2 Feral sheep shorn for first time in years after discovery near WA beach

they couldn't move fast enough to get away from the bloke who saw them! The average fleece weighs 5 kilos (11 pounds), these lost 19 kilos (41 pounds) each, but the record for a feral sheep is still 41 kilos (91 pounds) from the sheep found in 2015! Check out the before & after photos.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 09:56 AM

Has it only been 15 years?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/tech/youtube-first-video-jawed-karim-trnd/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 10:32 PM

COVID-19 restrictions don't make sense to Jon, but letters from strangers are making a difference

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: JennieG
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 10:51 PM

I plan to make Anzac bikkies tomorrow, first time in many a long year. Probably since my boys were in high school, which is *ahem* more than 20 years ago......

Recipe will come from the Commonsense Cookery Book, for many Aussies over the span of many years their first cook book on leaving home.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 20 - 11:09 PM

Sandra, wrong thread, no biggie.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 02:07 AM

My sister used to make Anzac biscuits, and sent the NZ recipe book for mum to make them.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 08:20 AM

Hmmm. Not new news, but not about the pandemic.

Tough thread, this.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 08:48 AM

Here's something *and* it is music-related!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/chattanooga-tornado-church-piano-trnd/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 09:58 AM

Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up.
The unfathomable ignorance has no bottom.
We are shell shocked into submission.
All we can do is to ignore.
We need to look away.
We know it is
at our own
peril.
But
There will
be a renewed
interest as the election
is called into question or even be done.
All the dirty tricks in the book will be in full force.
The absurdity is to the point of abbandoning the sinking ship.
Twice in the last 2 Republican Presidents the US is robbed by bail outs


Millionares are getting $ while millions of americans scramble for food

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: gillymor
Date: 24 Apr 20 - 09:59 AM

"Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up." so true, Don. Most everyone I know is hunkered down in this very conservative district and just waiting for their chance to vote out this cretin. Judging from the Democrat turnout and the results in every election since and including the mid-terms,in spite of all the efforts at voter suppression, Americans are highly motivated to remove this malignancy.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 01:27 PM

Kim jong un is apparently dead. Unsure if virus-related so posting in both threads.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 10:23 PM

Normally only tourists are seen wearing Fly Mosquito Head Net Mesh Hat Face Protectors

but today workers in Central Australia have started wearing them - Booming fly population making life difficult in Australian outback, even four-legged workers!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Apr 20 - 10:30 PM

Now, can you people in North Carolina and Michigan and Wisconsin send us some good news?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 05:09 AM

How Navajo Code Talkers of World War II Saved the Day

messynessy - Blogging on the off-beat, the unique and the chic & a fantastic place to spend time (lose time?)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 06:45 AM

Mrrzy is correct, Kim is both dead and alive like Shrodingers cat.

On SNL Dr. Fauci was of course portrayed by...Brad Pitt.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Apr 20 - 09:09 AM

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21232665/north-korea-kim-jong-un-coronavirus-sick

He may not even be sick.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 10:36 AM

Ok, no two spaces after full stops:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/tech/microsoft-word-two-spaces-trnd/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:43 AM

Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up.

You are explaining his technique, if you can call a blunt instrument - technique.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:50 AM

oh! yes, 2 spaces is a hangover from the old typewriter days,

As a picky, pedantic proofreader I get annoyed by spare spaces!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 03:45 AM

Oh      Really?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 May 20 - 10:05 AM

I always thought the two spaces marked the slightly longer pause than adter a comma and its one space.

My phone, if I hit space twice, types a period and a space.

Meanwhile the Mars helicopter has a name:

https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-helicopter-named-ingenuity.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 May 20 - 11:11 AM

Also this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sudan-outlawed-female-genital-mutilation-but-experts-warn-it-will-take-more-to-end-the-practice/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 20 - 12:01 PM

Society is getting more cynical and full of gallows humor.
Budget Nursing homes used to have happy pastoral names.
But more and more truth in advertising seems to be taking over.
Like:
Roach Motel Manor -they check in but...
Memory Loss Manor
Vertigo Village
Disorientation Terrace
Get Me Outta Here Gardens
Altzheimers Acres

D emented Gardens
E nd O’ Life Residence
A lmost Heaven Homes
D eathview Villas

Reaching The End Estates
Abandoned Here Pasteurs
Corona Cottages

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 May 20 - 08:43 AM

Murder hornets

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 May 20 - 11:34 AM

Hee hee who knew Autumn Down Under was so dangerous?

Man, dog and five camels rescued from fall in Australian bush

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 May 20 - 09:05 AM

Also check out this pic of moon composed all of terminator images as moon waxed to full, seriously lovely:

https://www.livescience.com/terminator-moon-composite-image.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 May 20 - 08:43 AM

Germany grows up some

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/europe/germany-gay-conversion-therapy-ban-intl-scli-grm/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 May 20 - 04:33 PM

Aaand astronaut pee = lunar concrete

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5eb58485c5b6197b8461b289

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 May 20 - 08:50 AM

Ben Stiller's dad, so sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 May 20 - 03:47 AM

Cool stuff! And neanderthals had string. - is that a string theory they can actually prove?

Not to be picky or pedantic, but it might have been a binding to hold the flint on a stick. eg axe they say, and not to be cutting maybe even be a knife say I.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 May 20 - 08:06 AM

Penna becomes 3rd US state to ban child marriage! Woohoo!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 13 May 20 - 08:38 PM

Mrrzy:

For a reason I no longer remember, I get a daily email with the 5 top stories of the Virginia Pilot. I have been delighting in what goes on in VA! It gives me hope that at least one State is making good choices!

(I am in Canada.)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 May 20 - 03:21 AM

I found a tricorn walnut today. How's that for unusual? Inside was tricorn too. Tasted the same.

I only buy them for the craic.








I'll get my face mask

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 20 - 04:57 AM

Penna becomes 3rd US state to ban child marriage! Woohoo!

Mrrzy, I am confused. I had assumed that Penna was an abbreviation of Pennsylvania but, according to Wikipedia: "Since 2018, three states, Pennsylvania, Delaware and New Jersey have banned underage marriages without exception."

It would appear that whichever state you are referring to is, at least, the 4th.

If one of the participants is underage, how can the marriage be legal?
If it is not legal, why is specific legislation required to ban it?
In the case of child marriages, up to what age are people still considered to be a child?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 20 - 05:15 AM

The questions in the last paragraph of my 04:47 AM post were rhetorical. I am not expecting you to justify anything, Mrrzy. As you say, whoohoo!

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 20 - 05:19 AM

... of my 04:57 post...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 20 - 09:56 AM

Before, yes Pennsylvania, you could marry underage with judge's or parental permission. Wiki (shocked, shocked!) must have been mistaken...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 May 20 - 10:01 AM

Can a 12 year old get married in the US?
Hell yes with judicial or parental consent, children as young as 10, 11 and 12 have been married in the U.S. in the last couple of decades. When exceptions are taken into consideration, 25 states actually do not have an absolute minimum marriageable age.

In a way I married a 12 year old in that I am 12 years older than my one and only.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 20 - 02:23 PM

"Since 2018, three states, Pennsylvania, Delaware and New Jersey have banned underage marriages without exception."


OK, I should have read the Wekipedia page more thoroughly. I took it that the three states had their bans in place since 2018. In fact, they brought them in at different times and not in the order listed. The page has been recently updated to include Pennsylvania, which is identified further down the page as having brought in the ban this month. Confusion over.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 May 20 - 01:02 PM

Ooh ooh new Trek!

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-series-anson-mount-ethan-peck-rebecca-romijn-cbs-all-access-1234607259/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 May 20 - 08:32 AM

Neural communication without synspses:

https://www.sciencealert.com/neuroscientists-think-they-ve-found-an-entirely-new-form-of-neural-communication

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 20 - 10:27 AM

"To ensure that the slice was completely cut, the two pieces of tissue were separated and then rejoined while a clear gap was observed under the surgical microscope," the authors explained in their paper.

"The slow hippocampal periodic activity could indeed generate an event on the other side of a complete cut through the whole slice."

If you think that sounds freaky, you're not the only one. The review committee at The Journal of Physiology – in which the research has been published – insisted the experiments be completed again before agreeing to print the study.

Mrrzy, now imagine not just a slight gap but a distance measured in meters or more in which info is transmitted and received.

Also checkout; nano tubuels and brain communication
The 'Egg' project in communicating info before and after a mass event.
CIA and FBI war regarding remote viewing.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 20 - 10:36 AM

Third eye spies non fiction

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 May 20 - 01:30 PM

Ha! Non-fiction! Guffaw!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 20 - 01:37 PM

Did you watch it?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 May 20 - 06:54 AM

The post? Yes. Guffaw again.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 20 - 08:46 AM

We have found your reality horizon?

If so do not go here

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 20 - 09:15 AM

For 40 years or more this is my reality horizon
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2011/09/06/911-and-global-consciousness/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 May 20 - 09:25 AM

And an attack on a maternity ward in Afghanistan.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 May 20 - 05:01 AM

"The slow hippocampal periodic activity could indeed generate an event on the other side of a complete cut through the whole slice."

Quantum entanglement?
Jim Al-Khalili (et al) reckon the way our olfactory system & the way European Robins navigate is via quantum entanglement. If it is present in the body - who nose? (sic)

Spooky action at a distance.....................

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 20 - 07:47 AM

NANO TUBUELS give our brains quantum scale communication.
They are too small to see with anything but electron microscopes and only recently discovered.

Senseing entanglement or discovering instant communication is objectivly only a possible truth today but I would not rule it out even though current knowledge is relatively blind to this emerging surprise.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 May 20 - 11:45 AM

'Ere, U sayin' Ima quatum computer?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 20 - 03:14 PM

I'm sayin a books worth. This brain of ours has the ability to see beyond the split second of now and can peer into the fuzziness of future and past, pick up on info like manna blowin in the wind and see with far more than our eyes.

I am not saying everyone can do this.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia
Date: 20 May 20 - 01:22 PM

Yesterday somebody landed a small airplane on I-470 in the thriving suburb of Lee's Summit, Missouri. FYI - An 'I' road is an interstate freeway, like a motorway in the UK or the Autobahn in Germany. This was in the middle of the afternoon, and the only mishap was that one wing tipped a freeway sign. (The plane had lost one of its two engines.)

Having driven the freeways of my area (Kansas City) I was convinced that most of the drivers don't know what they are doing, but now my hat is off to the drivers who handled this situation so well.

==========
Come to think of it, what's the French for freeway?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 20 - 01:58 PM

My guess is Arterie

2 dimensional drivers made room for the 3 D voyaging plane.
Seeing the plane above and behind you is a challenge.
We 3 D beings can make extra room for 4 D tourists.
Seeing them is tricky like seeing flashes of
glowing globes that
ignore walls

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 20 May 20 - 02:16 PM

Come to think of it, what's the French for freeway?

L'autoroute

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 20 - 03:40 PM

Its not Mille Bornes?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia
Date: 21 May 20 - 03:47 PM

Thanks, Doug. Now I remember encountering "autoroute."

When I thought more about the airplane landing on the freeway, I realized that the common bad habit of driving in tight clumps paid off for once. The pilot managed to line up with empty space between clumps, and the cars behind let the plane in.

Well, I'm sure it was not that simple. The plane could have been going 140 mph, the DH tells me.

I, who always aim to drive between clumps, would have messed it all up. Good thing I avoid driving on the freeway in town.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 May 20 - 05:25 PM

You call it driving in clumps which is a good observation but bad conclusion.
Traffic actually moves like a WORM stretching and contracting.
Once cars are slowed by cars in front of them a clump forms. The gap behind is thinned out as they play a brief catch up game. Blood even moves in a similar fashion.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 May 20 - 11:42 AM

The US is getting globally shorter, and I don't mean the population:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/science/maps-elevation-geodetic-survey.html

Blicky

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 20 - 03:45 PM

Mrrzy you remind me that the only thing that does not exist in our cosmos is something that does not move.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 May 20 - 09:00 AM

Hmmm. I can think of lots of other nonexistent things! But hey.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 23 May 20 - 07:37 PM

Name one
I bet they all move though. I don't know how to prove non existence.
We assume the properties of space are the same elswhere as here.
We keep getting surprised.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 May 20 - 03:45 PM

If it is nonexistent, motion is moot. Or non-applicable.

Beards evolved to help men take punches:

https://academic.oup.com/iob/article/2/1/obaa005/5799080

Blicky

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 20 - 06:16 PM

Ha. I guess good themes for PHd dissertations are getting rare.

Massless particles must always move at the speed of light unless it passes through mass. Mass can never go as fast as light.
One of the tricks to slowing light to a halt is creating a cloud of nearly motionless atoms at near absolute zero (-460 degrees Fahrenheit). This is called a Bose-Einstein condensate.
But everything wants to move. Existence is moot and just an aspect of language.

CAN gravitons which move at the speed of light be slowed down or stopped at absolute zero? If so, anti gravity could be manipulated.
I want an anti gravity car.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 20 - 06:43 PM

The problem is that gravity may be an emergent force that comes from 2   or more force vectors, which means that gravitons may be only a figment of our imagination.
We tend to think of gravity as an enormous force but it is actually the tinyist.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 May 20 - 12:37 PM

If so, anti gravity could be manipulated.

Call me simplistic, but.

I predict that if, and it is a big if, we find anti-gravity, we will find negative time, or negative mass. Gravity comes out of how mass interacts with space-time, ne c'est pas?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 May 20 - 02:07 PM

Asimov wrote a great short story about someone inventing a gravity-less field and putting it, for demo purposes, on a billiards table, asking a rival scientist (poopoo-er) to play. The cue-struck ball took off at the speed of light, punching a hole through the poopoo-ed scientist, because it was actually a mass-less field and things with no mass travel at the speed of light...

Also one about a quantum black hole which punches a microscopic hole with huge tidal effects through another poopoo-ing rival scientist.

Don't poopoo Asimov's science!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 20 - 04:05 PM

Gravity-less conditions to create a null gravity zone (not anti gravity) is possibly not the problem. How does incredible inertia free accelleration work? If you master the inertia free maneuvering thing perhaps gravity wouldn't even matter. Yeah we always refer to warping space as an answer. Now how do you create a confined parastaltic motion in space time and remain in the center of it, like a turd in a space time intestine? Humans can manipulate mass and even turn it into E.
But have we manipulated space? -nope- I have long postulated that black holes generate space and neutrinos like a wild factory. At least it is a good place to start looking.

{Trekies would see this as the Romulan warp drive theory as opposed to the Federation method} :^/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 26 May 20 - 06:47 AM

I read a really good book about anti-gravity. I just couldn't put it down!

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 May 20 - 10:40 AM

Snicker.

And news on our magnetic field is getting interesting...

https://www.sciencealert.com/mysterious-anomaly-weakening-earth-s-magnetic-field-seems-to-be-splitting-into-two/amp

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 26 May 20 - 11:11 AM

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 May 20 - 01:33 PM

articles says - Earth's magnetic field is constantly in a state of flux

Pun not intended I would guess. The unit of Tesla is a measure of what we electrical engineers call magnetic flux.

But the South Atlantic anomaly reminds me of Jupiter's red spot. I have seen experiments with rotating inner core with viscous fluids as thin layers and they often produce a single large eddy. And our molten outer cored is just such a system, a viscous layer trapped. And Earths magnetic field is produced by a rotating core we are told.

Well that's my take. Other than the warning that the magnetic pole reversals won't go in one huge flip, it will most likely appear "reversed" in spots, say those that study these things. Timescale long.

We may get a hint of what to expect any day in our life time. The last big coronal mass ejection to hit the Earth was the Carrington Event in 1859 and it wasn't pretty.
viz
A solar storm of this magnitude occurring today would cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts and damage due to extended outages of the electrical grid. - bloody coronas and people think the virus is THE big deal! Keep that food/bogroll hoard topped up, there is no predicting...................

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 20 - 07:43 PM

Pole flips are old news

Sci fi chuckles to serious investigation
https://www.sciencealert.com/how-feasible-is-a-warp-drive-here-s-the-science

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 20 - 08:07 PM

If you are seriously interested
https://youtu.be/Wokn7crjBbA

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 20 - 06:10 AM

New view of Earth and Moon

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 May 20 - 06:30 AM

A doctor arrived at his surgery one morning to find a large bag on the doorstep. He looked inside and found a new born baby with a note saying "Please look after my child". As a medical professional, he knew that it was a responsibility he could not shirk but there would be so many forms to fill in and he had patients waiting. He took it inside and examined it. As the baby seemed in good health, he decided to deal with his morning patients before handing it over for further care.

The first patient was the local vicar, a hypochondriac whom the doctor knew well. He had suffered every disease known to man and, this morning, was complaining of acute stomach pains. The doctor suspected trapped wind but thought that if, this time, he could convince him that it really was something serious, it might shock him out of his hypochondria. The situation gave him the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.

He told the vicar to drop his trousers, lie on the examination table and open his legs. The doctor then pressed on the vicar's belly, causing him to let out a long fart. The doctor picked up the baby and said "Congratulations! You have given birth to a healthy boy".
"B..b..but I can't have done" stammered the vicar, "It's not possible!"
"God moves in mysterious ways" replied the doctor.

The vicar, being a good Christian, accepted his apparent responsibilities a brought the child up as his own. When the boy reached the age of 18, the vicar thought that it was time that he knew the truth. It was a difficult conversation but it had to be done. He said "You have always been my son and always will be. You have grown up calling me Dad but, in fact, I am not ACTUALLY you father.

Looking rather shocked at the news, the young man asked "Then who is my father?"

In an anguished tone, the vicar replied "The bishop!"


DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 May 20 - 06:34 AM

OOPS! WRONG THREAD.

Could a MudElf please delete the above post, together with this one. I will repost it in the Joke thread.

Sorry,
DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 May 20 - 08:36 AM

Nice view of earth and moon, Donuel. Lovely.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 May 20 - 02:51 PM

Also can watch space launch today space.com or nasa.gov

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 20 - 05:27 PM

About 500 businesses are burned or destroyed along with a police station by a race riot over more murders by police of black people.
I made a complete list but is too much data to post

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 20 - 05:49 PM

DemonstrTIONS HAVE SPREAD TO aTLANTA sAN jOSE wASHINGTON dc...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 May 20 - 06:41 PM

Seriously, can't we just grow the fuck *up* already.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 07:15 AM

Its very hard to grow up when you are murdered legally by indemic institutional racism before you have a chance to grow up.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 05:16 PM

OK mods enough trying to exponge any mention of GEORGE FLOYD

REMOVING legal arguements regarding 1st degree murder is jeuvenile

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:32 PM

Wrong thread for that conversation. It has its own.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jun 20 - 06:50 PM

Ebola is breaking out again, in the Congo. (Not *that* virus.)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 03 Jun 20 - 07:13 PM

Australia - Endangered animal breaks into shop & trips alarms

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jun 20 - 07:34 AM

37 kids stabbed in China...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jun 20 - 02:59 PM

The death of the last American to receive Civil War pension!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/04/she-was-last-american-collect-civil-war-pension-7313-month-she-just-died/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 Jun 20 - 09:48 PM

thanks for posting the story, Mrrzy, some years back I read about much younger second wives of Civil War veterans & thought the story might be about a widow's death.

Back in the 70s I had an older friend who was a 2nd generation Australian. She was born before or during the first world war, a late child of a man whose father arrived in Australia in 1793, 5 years after British settlement.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jun 20 - 11:49 PM

When I was a little kid some older folks could remember that the President when they were kids was Ulysses S. Grant. They said the S stands for secret.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 08:24 AM

When I was growing up, we had old cousins whose parents had been kids during the Civil War. It was like that Ray Bradbury story about the time machine, hearing them tell their parents' stories.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 08:41 AM

This today from cnn: looking bad for Trump in electoral college!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/electoral-map-2020-election-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 11:21 AM

And we are tunneling on Mars

https://www.universetoday.com/146361/finally-mars-insights-mole-is-now-underground/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Jun 20 - 08:11 AM

Aaaand more massacre in Nigeria

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/nigeria-borno-state-attack-coronavirus/2020/06/10/0147e06a-ab1b-11ea-a43b-be9f6494a87d_story.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 02:54 AM

This today from cnn: looking bad for Trump in electoral college!

It is hope, but what people say to pollsters, and how they vote does not always tally. Given Twitler's record, people would be ashamed to admit to liking him. But they also vote for a party, so you have to ask the right question. And even then, polls and votes are different.

The UK had an expression "Shy Tories". And it proved decisive.

Be afraid America, be very afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 09:23 AM

It get worse: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sanctions-international-criminal-court-us-war-crimes-investigation-a9561901.html?amp

Sanctioning in the sense of punish, not permit, the ICC so Murrican military can't get done for their war crimes.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 20 - 11:24 AM

The mudcat pandemic thread has fallen off the front page.
This is the ideal time to get infected when your guard is down.
The virus is still content to infect at a 50% contagion rate.
We need to have a discontented virus.

Welcome to the second half of stage one. On a NIH conference call Dr. Fauci was asked why Trump acts as if he is immune. He said he told the president that in a time with no cure, anything is better than nothing except those things that are worse to your health. The prsident asked if their was vaccine he could have now and Fauci told him he could have a Faucine today. What's a Faucine? Thats where I spit on my hand and shake yours.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jun 20 - 11:37 AM

If ya wanna add to the virus thread do, but don't contaminate this obe while complaining the other isn't here.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 03:20 PM

Ooh you go SCOTUS! Sexual identity and orientation are, too, covered by the civil rights act, so there!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 08:11 PM

And this, from Forbes of all places:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2020/06/15/there-are-36-intelligent-alien-civilizations-in-our-galaxy-say-scientists/amp/

Blicky

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 20 - 07:13 AM

Only 36 civilizations? Do humans count?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 20 - 08:31 AM

The Dropa civilization is one of the more prolific in our area.

They are curious of us too
Note you will not see 'debris' but the distinctive Dropa swarm of crafts.   nasa video of STS 75

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 08:28 AM

Is the UK a nuclear power?
Is Finland part of Russia?
Why don't we use nuclear weapons more?

Things Trump has asked

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 12:16 PM

Go SCOTUS again! DACA stays!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 05:08 PM

Trump did have the right to challenge DACA, a mere presidential order, the Supreme court found his argument for doing so was insufficint when his legal team argued "because Obama did it".

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 10:10 AM

Women seeking abortions are right about why they wanted one...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/20/abortion-denied-debt-bankruptcy-eviction

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 11:33 AM

Intact six-metre long whale backbone washes ashore, Australia

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Jun 20 - 09:35 AM

Totally cool, Sandra in Sydney.

And in *other* virus news, the Ebola outbreak is being declared controlled.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 12:11 PM

And the Supreme Court, in another spasm of adulting, strikes down Louisiana's abortion restrictions.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 03:33 PM

On the other hand, quoting Slate, John Roberts Just Bulldozed the Wall Separating Church and State.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/supreme-court-espinoza-montana-religious-schools.html

Blicky.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 08:29 AM

Yay the awful Atlantic pipeline idea is no more!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 08:33 AM

Blicky no paywall

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 04:45 PM

What do you guys think of SCOTUS saying No faithless electors?

One view on Slate.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jul 20 - 12:02 PM

And fish eggs, soft tiny things, can survive gizzard stones, stomach acid, and the rest of a goose's digestive system. Goose poop can spead invasive fish species. Cool.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 20 - 06:12 PM

SCOTUS has not helped Trump regarding faithless electors


Geese can change the biome of wetlands via bacteria.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jul 20 - 04:03 PM

Gary Larson is back! New Far Side cartoons! Yay!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 06:43 PM

Prez of Ivory Coast resigns, following death of prime minister. Iyé aconde quoi?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 06:46 PM

Oops Veep. Still!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 05:57 AM

tonight over the UK

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 11:50 AM

Wow, beautiful, thanks Donuel!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 07:05 AM

China is not out of the woods yet. 6 Quakes, 3 dams at risk, serious flooding, and grain quality scandals. All that without Hong Kong.

The 3 Gorges Dam is not entirely out of risk, it can't hold any more water so floods downstream are serious.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 08:32 AM

The taxidemist was like the secretary of state in ancient Egypt. I did 2 taxidermy cartoons. 1 was a tax attorny taxidermy and the other was the chancellory of Taxidermy. I too discovered digital cartooning but 10 years ago/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM

my cartoons are too monstrous or controversial to be published but times are achangin. My last cartoon was of 5th avenue looking through a large hole in the back of a black man's head revealing Trump holding a smoking gun. See what I mean.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 05:17 PM

Has anybody seen the comet?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM

I saw it. What was cool was knowing about it.

Also this.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/world/god-good-pew-survey/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 20 - 07:00 PM

I stuck something on the new team name for the WashDC [American] football team into the BLM thread.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jul 20 - 09:32 AM

Money is more likely to answer prayers than a fickle god.


WTF-Washington Tough Football [the toughs]

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 02:37 PM

Sperm swim like otters, not like snakes or eels. Cool 3D pix available here.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 05:31 PM

France is building their first fusion reactor (*)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 07:17 PM

I listened to the show about sperm this morning on NPRs Science Friday. But somehow I cannot imagine that is news. I'm pretty sure I've seen some HD documentaries which show sperm doing the corkscrew motion. Plus, from Antonie van Leeuwenhoek who first saw (his own) magnified sperm in motion, people weren't stupid and so must have appreciated that they were observing what they could see only in 2 dimensions. So, interesting story, but I think it's being hyped.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 07:23 PM

My random thoughts are not news either but why be critical?
Watch a baseball game and you may see statisics being made or an unlikely tremendous play so while we see the same game we each bring something different to the experience. Parts of the 'unlikely' IS enjoyment of the game. SO this is why baseball entertains us. It is a demonstration of the wierdness of quantum mechanics. It is true anyone who says they understand quantum mechanics - doesn't.

Sometimes it may even be a boring game, which is wierd in itself.
I've wondered about the split screen experiment since I was 13
Probabilities have shown us that we can get entangled with a destructive moron becoming President. We can complain when reality isn't rational BUT ITS NOT. Perhaps we should make a new kind of computer that uses spooky action at a distance and employ only entangled atoms - instead of electrons and calculate an accidental utopia just for grins and giggles.
But a game of all home runs would not appeal to us for long.
Wierdness is a strength And Not A Weakness.
It is our raison d'etre.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 07:16 AM

You could easily be right about sperm, robomatic, too!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 09:54 AM

Theft proof electric bike VanMoof

Satillie tracking and free replacement does the trick

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 07:39 AM

The motion of sperm mirrors the sprial progression of DNA.
The same motion of the solar system in its orbit around the galaxy.
Its the same mathematic and geometric path a pendulum takes through time. The human egg also sprials in its free fall journey through the Fallopian tube.

Ain't life cool. At least its the way I see it.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 07:51 AM

Here is a way to see an xyz pendulum over time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXwYLKFJoUk#:~:text=This%20pendulum%20is%20mesmerizing%20to,another%20plane%20at%20right%20angle

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Aug 20 - 08:14 AM

Also, perseids.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Aug 20 - 12:52 PM

RE: Singing -
things you don't want to know

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Aug 20 - 10:31 PM

That fascinating article should go above the line!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Aug 20 - 01:28 AM

My bonnie lass sends me her droplets
They flash in their phoneme streams
And I catch them on my tonsil goblets
I turn them to memories and memes

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Aug 20 - 03:23 PM

Bring back my gobbets?

Meanwhile Liberty U seems to have fired Jerry Falwell. Lessee how well he falls...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Aug 20 - 08:29 AM

The Supreme Court has just okayed laws that force women impregnated by rape to tell their rapist before being able to get an abortion *and* give him more of a say if he's over 18 and she isn't. Also outlawing medical [non-surgical] abortions. Sigh.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 07:36 AM

A 3D ZOOM https://portlhologram.com/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 04:56 PM

Kamala Harris

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 11:21 AM

Aricebo telescope ruined https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-cable-failure-investigation.html

That leaves https://www.sciencealert.com/china-s-huge-500-meter-fast-radio-telescope-is-finally-up-and-running

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 11:45 AM

I read about the telescope but thought it was damaged, not ruined...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Sep 20 - 04:06 PM

Somebody has nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Sep 20 - 04:12 PM

He has said he hoped that would happen, telegraphing to his followers to give it a shot.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 07:38 PM

NYT got the tax returns!


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

Also posted to Elections thread.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 05:29 PM

And now for something completely different:

https://neurosciencenews.com/electromagnetic-consciousness-17191/amp/

Blicky.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 20 - 08:08 AM

Consciousness is EM but also quantum tubule* communication.
The 'empty' limbic system is also far more than a shock absorber.
*an actual neural structure.

Mrrzy likes pot more than bacon
This is a loss for our nation.
If he ended the smoke
and laid off the toke
We'd have a world class statesman.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Oct 20 - 01:44 PM

Teehee

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 20 - 11:02 AM

Come explore a real Disneyland a century before our US fake one.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/quinta-da-regaleira

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 01:47 PM

whirlled series game 4 was won on the last play which contained 5 errors on that 1 play alone. Still that was better than the Washington football team. They didnt even bother to recover their own fumble on the goal line. What I see is that sports are not taking 2o2o seriously and why should they. There are more serious things.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 04:15 PM

I keep forgetting that the World Series is on, since I typically don't watch sports. But that would have been fun to watch.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 07:34 AM

The hit was not caught in right field and when he finally threw to 3rd base the runner was on his way home when he FELL DOWN. The pitcher got distracted and forgot to back up home plate. The runner got up and the 3rd baseman threw home which the catcher could not catch. With no back up the ball sailed away allowing the runner to reach home which he kept comicly pounding with his hands.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 09:07 AM

Very glad to see that a contingent of SBS were able to board an oil tanker in worsening weather by "fast roping" from a helicopter 5 miles off the Isle of Wight, to detain a group of stowaways who illegally boarded the tanker in Nigeria, had turned violent!!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM

4 helicopters it seems were used to fast rope down to the tanker. It took just 7 minutes for our excellent SBS boys to secure the ship, and detain the hijackers who will now doubt face substantial prison terms and subsequent deportation!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Oct 20 - 12:06 AM

Lorises are venomous.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 01:27 PM

Aw...

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/11/19/21575025/arecibo-observatory-puerto-rico-decommission-structural-collapse-cable-break

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:57 PM

Scotland makes all period products free. I am stifling obvious puns.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Nov 20 - 07:13 PM

What is with the monoliths, Utah and Romania?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Dec 20 - 12:00 AM

Don't you love it?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 04:45 PM

The Chinese lander is collecting moonrocks.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 07:04 PM

Mrrzy Aricebo was teenyweenieanyway but geta load of this one

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Dec 20 - 12:53 PM

Ooh a third mono-not-lith! California.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Dec 20 - 04:13 PM

Aaaand... The Romania one has vanished.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Dec 20 - 04:40 PM

Aaand ... the California one has also vanished!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Dec 20 - 11:54 PM

OMG there's a monolith under the tree at the white house

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 07:14 PM

Ooh ooh the US House just passed pot decriminalization! It won't go farther but hey [*cough cough*]!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 07:54 PM

I don't know what comprises dark matter exactly but I know where it came from. It came from the annihilation of matter and anti matter, Besides the energy release from matter being converted, there is a certain amount of residue in which the energy converted to matter. But what kind of matter? Certainly one which had the property of gravity but not made of normal atoms.
How about an experiment to create dark matter? We need a shitload (scientific term) of antimatter and measure what dissappears in annihilation radiation (E) and how much is converted to Mass and how much disappears (C). This will be a first measurment. The results will give us more understanding and questions.

I have a sneaking suspicion the mass is all quarks and neutrinos with no protons, neutrons and electrons. If they loan me the LHC I might blow it up but at least learn something new.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 08:08 PM

We see what dark energy is doing but how?
By converting time into space inside a singularity.
Not just converting mass into energy like a star but something bigger.
https://www.einstein-online.info/en/spotlight/changing_places/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 08:24 PM

If you got lost just remember that the magical transformation begins when Time stops, making the black hole an eternal space making factory.
Eternal up until energy and space can balance no longer and rips bringing the entire cosmos into a lower energy state - even black holes die in such a rip.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 10:41 PM

That's not news.

*This* is news: DACA's back!

Blicky.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 09:50 AM

That's certainly better news that the viral videos of Giuliani farting. I haven't opened any of those links for fear someone has invented smellivision.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 02:00 PM

I was watching a cooking show where the host wished we in the audience had smell-o-vision. I want it, but only for the cooking shows.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 04:17 PM

We have 3 kinds of neutrinos that change as they travel, maybe just maybe dark neutrinos don't travel. Speculation ain't news by a long shot but the Cosmos is a stage for entertainment. My human bias
is believing one thing leads to another. Its probably 2 things create a third....

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 02:45 PM

From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:57 PM
Scotland makes all period products free. I am stifling obvious puns.

You may ignore the obvious puns. Some of us don't have the same self-control.
Scotland is not a rich country. For this new announcement I wonder what the 'monthly' expenditure is.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 09:55 PM

These days? Bwahaha.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:40 AM

Any idea what is sickening hundreds of people that is not covid? Southern India, convulsions and nausea, possibly no deaths though. Likely water-borne.

One blicky.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 01:08 PM

And another mono-not-lith, in Britain!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 05:09 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christmas-star-will-be-closest-visible-conjunction-jupiter-saturn-800-n1250418

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM

Going back to language pet peeves, conflating a planetary phenom with xianity just chaps my cheeks.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 09:05 AM

Happy Ckkhunukah.
Don't miss out on online dreidel gambling
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/dreidel-invented-dreidel-games-generation/story?id=9315727

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 20 - 07:30 AM

The few new movies that are being made are Sci. Fi.
People are in spacesuits or walking a lonely post apocolyptic desert.
An example is the new Cloony movie Midnight Sun.

The sequel is still alive; 'Return of the prequel', 'Back to the Jedi', 'Rocky Home Alone XI', 'Harry Potter and the Michilein Man', Germinator on Mars II, 'The Thing Whatever III', 'Man in the Cotton Mask 6'.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 04:36 PM

And again, go scotus! They have refused to damage marriage equality.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Dec 20 - 08:32 AM

And Cleveland is dropping the name and I do so hope the cartoon mascot of their sportsball team. Go Cleveland.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 20 - 10:48 AM

They lay eggs, they have fur, they make venom, they are amphibious live on land have a duck bill. And now it has finally been discovered that the Platypus glows under black light. https://www.livescience.com/platypuses-glow-uv-light.html

Maybe in antiquity the Platypus was the winner of genetic manipulation contest by an advanced civilization.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Dec 20 - 11:22 AM

What the *fuck* was evolution thinking.

But the platypus is no longer the only venomous mammal, slow lorises have venom too.

This is a straaaange planet.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 20 - 01:06 PM

They look like lemurs.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 05:40 AM

I have an updated theory of evolution.
Survival of the most joyous and good feelings.

On a quantum level of cillia on a paramecium to a human being's comprable micro tubuels in our pryamidial cells the good feelings of being alive and reproducing are factors in the continuation and groth of life.
The power of orgasm derives all life in the universe.
If it feels good, its alive. This an eastern concept that life is derived from the innate joyous universe and not just organization and computation by accident or pan spermia.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 08:03 PM

Adelaide firefighter's unique gold ring recovered after 13 years offshore, found by a metal detectorist

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 02:41 PM

Poison Underwear

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 02:44 PM

Solstice tonight

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 04:50 PM

Nanoplastic is showing up in human placentas, both sides, fetal and maternal.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Dec 20 - 12:45 PM

An observation and not news;
All the worst winter flavors are here like Spiced pumpkin wintergreened cranberry paw-paw. Mmmm plastic pumpkin, Krayzee Krapberry and Extreme Ginger ill. Novochuck swirl is not bad.
Satan will hate to see 2020 end.










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Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 03:40 PM

What do we think about the Nashville bombing of that AT&T building?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 10:36 PM

Never mind. Tinfoil hat brigade.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 06:23 PM

Wild swimming and the search for Australia’s best waterholes

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 08:02 PM

That was fun in the sun

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:21 PM

They overrode the veto...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 03:46 AM

New Zealand: hiker who spent lockdown in a hobbit hole

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 12:09 PM

Huge news not about the virus - but that isn't helped by the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/us/politics/russian-hacking-government.html

Here's a piece of that article:

Interviews with current and former employees of SolarWinds suggest it was slow to make security a priority, even as its software was adopted by America’s premier cybersecurity company and federal agencies.

Employees say that under Mr. Thompson, an accountant by training and a former chief financial officer, every part of the business was examined for cost savings and common security practices were eschewed because of their expense. His approach helped almost triple SolarWinds’ annual profit margins to more than $453 million in 2019 from $152 million in 2010.

But some of those measures may have put the company and its customers at greater risk for attack. SolarWinds moved much of its engineering to satellite offices in the Czech Republic, Poland and Belarus, where engineers had broad access to the Orion network management software that Russia’s agents compromised.

The company has said only that the manipulation of its software was the work of human hackers rather than of a computer program. It has not publicly addressed the possibility of an insider being involved in the breach.

None of the SolarWinds customers contacted by The New York Times in recent weeks were aware they were reliant on software that was maintained in Eastern Europe. Many said they did not even know they were using SolarWinds software until recently.

Even with its software installed throughout federal networks, employees said SolarWinds tacked on security only in 2017, under threat of penalty from a new European privacy law. Only then, employees say, did SolarWinds hire its first chief information officer and install a vice president of “security architecture.”

Ian Thornton-Trump, a former cybersecurity adviser at SolarWinds, said he warned management that year that unless it took a more proactive approach to its internal security, a cybersecurity episode would be “catastrophic.” After his basic recommendations were ignored, Mr. Thornton-Trump left the company.

SolarWinds declined to address questions about the adequacy of its security. In a statement, it said it was a “victim of a highly-sophisticated, complex and targeted cyberattack” and was collaborating closely with law enforcement, intelligence agencies and security experts to investigate.

But security experts note that it took days after the Russian attack was discovered before SolarWinds’ websites stopped offering clients compromised code.

It's difficult to believe that there is a reputable individual in the world with the last name "Trump." In this case, Ian Thornton-Trump. It looks like he's a Canadian.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 01:23 PM

I would change my name.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 08:17 PM

very important article, answering a lot of vital questions ...
Why can’t the stormtroopers in Star Wars shoot straight?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:23 PM

I can't see out those damn trooper helmets either

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 03:05 PM

Signs like Jesus saves and 'Don't read on me' are among trump signs outside the capitol building
Inside they are carrying flags

Its been 2 hours before any police other than the capitol police are responding. hmmm

I don't see any melee or fights

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 04:44 PM

They have been thrown out says cnn...

I like yoyr typo!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 04:47 PM

I can talk, eh.

WashPo reports someone was shot.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 04:52 PM

No typo
Don'tread on me

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 05:55 PM

Some re too young to know how and when the brown shirts stormed th streets link

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 11:04 AM

Ok this is different: Japanese scientists report cases where babies being born vaginally to women with cervical cancer caught their mom's cancer during said vaginal delivery. It showed up as lung cancer in the newborns.

I read that in Le monde this morning.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 10:10 AM

damn virus/altered cells. Maybe the new RNA vaccine method will provide a good direction for cancer vaccines.

I don't think these guys
will help

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 10:13 AM

Wrong thread don.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 07:59 AM

No, I was respondimg to YOUR post regarding cancer.
interesting graphic

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 09:34 AM

Ah. Never mind!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 10:19 AM

Cute inclusion of random beauty, there!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 10:36 AM

2017 photo from space of solar storm hitting earth
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2101/aurora_iss052e007857.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 10:42 PM

True, I could post this in the virus thread,
since Plácido Domingo was stricken with COVID-19 last year.
However:
Domingo just observed Birthday number 80 (birthyear 1941).

His career is one with many lives,
even if he himself has but one.

His career as a tenor has been over for quite some time.
His career in the United States, it is fair to say,
ended with the #MeToo revelations and lawsuits.
Some of us will never see him the same way again.

Mixed feelings and emotions.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 11:14 PM

Virginia joins the civilized world and abolishes the death penalty.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Feb 21 - 02:57 AM

very good news, Mrrzy

on a lighter note - Mammoth woolly: Baarack the overgrown sheep shorn of his 35kg fleece Escaped merino ram found on the lam in regional Australia is said to be recovering well.
A rogue overgrown sheep found roaming through regional Australia has been shorn of his 35kg fleece – a weight even greater than that of the famous New Zealand sheep Shrek, who was captured in 2005 after six years on the loose.
The merino ram, dubbed Baarack by rescuers, was discovered wandering alone with an extraordinarily overgrown wool coat, and was promptly shorn to save his life. (read on!)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 12:40 PM

Well, Ted Cruz is not new news, so
probably mention of him should be on a different thread,
but I couldn't work out which one.
But honestly,
how foolish can some elected officials be?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 03:14 PM

possibly new fundamental forces from a tri color boson (among others) are lurking out there. Who knows what is next - understanding gravity?
https://theconversation.com/evidence-of-brand-new-physics-at-cern-why-were-cautiously-optimistic-about-our-new-findings-157464

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 07:16 PM

It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromats and see more colors than [what we were taught were typical] trichromatic people.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:56 AM

It would be nice to have some kind of a link for that. Incidentally, I honestly don't see the harm in referring to male/female/men/women/boy/girl. I recognise the sensitivity around these issues but you should acknowledge that most people would far more quickly know what you were talking about if you used the conventional terms, flawed in your view though they may be. "People with 2 X chromosomes" doesn't cut it. And, let's face it, that isn't the only obscurantist reference in your post.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 09:52 AM

But that is what it IS. It includes XXY people who are male, and typical XX women, and trans men who are XX. So no.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 12:26 PM

You need to recognise that you are simply fiddling around the edges. The vast majority of people who identify as female are XX and the vast majority of people who identify as male are XY. We know there are exceptions. We get it. But your post seems to be more about colour vision than about point-making about gender. And even then you are unimpressively using words that are hardly in common usage, and you give no corroboration. So back at you with your "So no."

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 04:00 PM

Right. It *is* about color vision, particularly color vision stuff that is coded for on X chromosomes. I was talking about exactly what I was talking about. Color vision and X chromosomes. Nothing else. Color. Vision. And. X. Chromosomes.

*You* brought in the gender stuff and then [complained] at me for not talking about gender the way you wanted me to *but I wasn't the one talking about gender at all* so once again - get off my back. Even better, admit you were wrong, and apologize.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 04:50 PM

You weren't talking about gender at all but you wittered on about "2 X." Sure you weren't. I'm not on your back. I am simply asking you to say, without contortion, what you actually mean. If you talk in riddles you can expect either derision from those who can't be bothered to process your deliberate obscurantism or you can expect be grilled. And I'm asking you for corroboration, still not provided, for the potentially interesting point you made (made with full contortion and weird words) about gender and colour vision. I did look and I couldn't find it. Over to you, or not. I'm moving on.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:56 PM

Here you are:

It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromats and see more colors than [what we were taught were typical] trichromatic people.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:25 PM

It could be your cholesterol playing you up.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:58 PM

To complicate someones deliberate complication further, only women are 12% likely to have the fourth extra color cones that enhance color vision but without training or tests may never know it. The mutation results either in better color or color blindness. If a gal had a dad who was color blind, her chance of having 4 cones is better.

btw All howler monkeys male or female have 4 cones. I wonder if lions have this difference.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 08:37 PM

Well you said dad, gal, women and her. Every little helps. Now perhaps we could have a link...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 08:51 PM

Well, maybe next best thing is a link to a different article?

Tetrachromacy: A World of Colour

which says, amongst other things,

"This means tetrachromacy is only possible for most women, who have two X chromosomes, and men with Klinefelter syndrome, who have two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome. Therefore, most men, who only have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, cannot be tetrachromats."


And if that sounds simple to you,
well, it's Greek to me ...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 10:21 PM

Well thanks for that. So this is nothing to do with whether you have two X chromosomes. But everything to do with whether you have a gene mutation on both of your X chromosomes, if indeed you happen to have two of 'em. So not so "normal" after all. You were peddling bullshit, Mrrzy, innit...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 10:35 PM

You ignore the presented statement that XX chromosomes are required for this, and that trans males, having XX, would possibly have this. XX, of any sex, and XXY. Or are you stating the trans-males are really women? Isn't that what JK Rowling is accused of?

and it appears to have everything to do with having two X chromosomes, now doesn't it?


For shame

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 04:39 AM

I object to chromosomes being stereotyped as X or Y. What about chromosomes that self-identify as Z ?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:15 AM

They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.

I have a very simple point to make here, Bruce, which is that this:

"It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromat"

...is fake news. The story behind this matter is complex and unresolved. For a start, there's nothing all-or-nothing about it. About half the planet's human population possess two X chromosomes. Females, in other words. At best, a pretty small minority of them are "tetrachromats." That's readily checkable. I'm perfectly happy to concede that you have to have two Xs before you can be one. But it
is untrue to say that it's. Or so to be one

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:40 AM


They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.


Erm ..... yes, Steve!

Don't try to confuse the issue with science ;-)


DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 06:23 AM

That last post of mine is not what I thought I'd posted. Please ignore it and read this one (if you must) instead:

They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.

I have a very simple point to make here, Bruce, which is that this statement...

"It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromat"

...is fake news. The story behind this matter is complex and unresolved. For a start, there's nothing all-or-nothing about it. About half the planet's human population possess two X chromosomes. Overwhelmingly identifying as females, in other words. At best, a pretty small minority of them are "tetrachromats." That's readily checkable. I'm perfectly happy to concede that you have to have two Xs before you can be one. But it is untrue to say that it's "normal." And I'm not going to quibble about gender matters in this thread. If you'd care to delve among my thousands of Mudcat posts you'll discover that I'm actually quite advanced in my thinking about such things and that I lament the fact that we have such a long way to go to reach the understanding and tolerance which would achieve equality for people who don't identify at one of the two extremes of the gender spectrum, to put it clumsily.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 06:27 AM

And that's not quite what my final version was either. I replaced the pompous "quite advanced" with the word "liberal."

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 10:27 AM

Disagreeing with Mrrzy is all well and good
-- I do it myself sometimes --
but I don't try to sit on Mrrzy.

And I object to anybody trying to sit on Mrrzy.
They dislike it. Most of us dislike it.
And it makes the sitter look , I have to say,
the opposite of attractive.

So stop it.
Stop trying to sit on Mrrzy, already.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 11:14 AM

People with empathy will disregard any such hateful contrayian BS and pity the chronic pain of its author. Countless apologies usually follow the offensive insults in hundreds of cases. Like Trump behavior, it is not likely to change at this point. A belief that being a guardian of truth and precision justifies such behavior is fortunately a rare and narcissistic trait, except in social media.
As always your faithful defender and friend.

PS It all goes to state of mind
which is naturally variable and
influenced by events of our time.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 12:49 PM

No-one is sitting on anyone. We have an awful lot of peddled misinformation at times on this website, often in matters concerning science and dietary matters, not to speak of vaccine denial. It isn't good, and it behoves each of us to check facts before posting affirmations about matters scientific. Please don't argue for "say what you like and be invulnerable to being called out."

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 01:42 PM

"People with empathy will disregard any such hateful contrayian BS and pity the chronic pain of its author. Countless apologies usually follow the offensive insults in hundreds of cases. Like Trump behavior, it is not likely to change at this point. A belief that being a guardian of truth and precision justifies such behavior is fortunately a rare and narcissistic trait, except in social media.
As always your faithful defender and friend."

You sound jealous... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 03:01 PM

I would share your outrage over deliberate misinformation. God knows PHD's make mistakes too but the spirit of truth and discovery are still respected. Pithy arguements over persona or historic points of view are a side dish and not the main course. Those kinds of food critics are of no help to those hungry for truth in this millenium of great lies.

We will differ from experience on matters of health, mental imaging and healing. While both atheists we will differ on aspects of religion.
Viva l'difference. It helps one think. It doesn't help when one has unfounded predjudice. Jealousy is a simmering hate I couldn't afford or want.

To keep perspective mudcat BS is a sub mud puddle beneath a forum of ancient to modern lyrics and music that is Smithsonian Collection worthy much like their collection of coprolytes.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 03:10 PM

That's a good laugh is that. You are the crown prince of misinformation on this forum.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:01 PM

King Tut
Steve Martin, Steep Canyon Rangers


Ted Cruz (Big Bad Cruz)
Now when he was a young man,
He never thought he'd see
People stand in line to get the vaccine.
(King Cruz) How'd you get so funky?
(Funky Cruz) Do you think you're funny?
Born in MexAlberta,
Moved to Texas border (King Cruz).
(King Cruz) I should have known
That he'd run for the border
when Texas had an ice storm
and then blamed it on his daughter. (King Cruz)
He can read Dr. Seuss (Funky Cruz)
He's my favorite honky!
Born in Mex Alberta,
Moved to Texas border (King Cruz)
Dancin' in the Senate, (Disco Cruz)
The ladies love his belly, (Flabby Cruz)
Stonin all the immigrants (Rockin' Cruz)
Doesn't give a shit.
He gave his life for trumpism.
Whataguy!
Alberta didn't wantem.

Now, when I die
Don't think I'm bein rude, (King Cruz)
Don't want no fancy funeral
Jus'one like unshaven Cruz. (King Cruz)

He coulda been a hoser, (Ted Cruz)
Instead he is a joker
Born in Mex Alberta, moved to Lone Star border
born in Old Moose Ache, now gotta condo made of cake
Big bad Cruz!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 06:30 PM

move over Red Baron there is a new tri wing plane

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 08:34 PM

Move over Simple Flying. Caproni
had this beat by a factor of 3 90 years ago!

And did it fly?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 09:24 PM

Holy Moly. I didn't know about Caproni Macaroni
I was at LaGuardia when it celebrated its Clipper flying boats & pier right off the airport restaurant and remember flying on the 'luxury' DC3's.

The Mars Perseverence has a piece of the Wright brother's biplane aboard.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 07:20 AM

This is what the sun will look like after it burns out

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 03:35 PM

Thanks, keb!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 21 - 07:37 AM

An inside look at the response to unaccompanoed child immigrants is that most agencies in the government are being asked to volenteer to go to go and help on the border and elsewhere. Its all hands on deck.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 21 - 01:55 PM

The number of sexual assault court cases against Trump is increasing.
It could become further complicated should he test positv for syphillus. A particularily nasty spirocette which ann play hide and seek.
Trump will not make it public like Reagan did with his dementia. Two years prior to Reagan's announcment by letter, I had said on local Rochester TV on a panal of psychologists that "Reagan had obvious organic brain disease". No one else had the guts to agree with me.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Apr 21 - 02:36 PM

Charlotteville will be allowed to remove the confederate statues! Yay!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Apr 21 - 09:11 AM

Virginia legalizes recreational weed!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 10:19 AM

It sounds like the EU has been struck a horrible blow by the pandemic:

EU and COVID-19: When a vaccine only adds to the trouble

COVID-19 has wrought division in the European Union

BRUSSELS -- European Union leaders no longer meet around a common oval summit table to broker their famed compromises. Instead, each of the 27 watches the other heads of state or government with suspicion via a video screen that shows a mosaic of faraway capitals.

This is what COVID-19 has wrought.

Lofty hopes that the crisis would encourage a new and tighter bloc to face a common challenge have given way to the reality of division: The pandemic has set member nation against member nation, and many capitals against the EU itself, as symbolized by the disjointed, virtual meetings the leaders now hold.

Leaders fight over everything from virus passports to push tourism to the conditions for receiving pandemic aid. Perhaps worse, some attack the very structures the EU built to deal with the pandemic. Last month, Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz decried how vaccine-buying in the bloc had become a “bazaar,” alleging poorer countries struck out while the rich thrived.

"Internal political cohesion and respect for European values continue to be challenged in different corners of the Union," the European Policy Center said in a study one year after the pandemic swept from China and engulfed Europe. . . .

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 02:17 PM

Hmmm. Maybe for the New News About The Virus thread?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 10:42 AM

Another volcano is erupting. This is also not about the pandemic. From Bad To Worse: La Soufrière Volcano Continues To Erupt

Unless this is particularly troublesome to load, it's best to keep the BS topics to one thread per topic. Someone just started the recipe thread is too long, and they had to be grouped so the first one could be found.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 May 21 - 10:53 PM

Nonuplets! That woman has had an actual litter.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 08 May 21 - 11:26 AM

A Chinese rocket missed a school but the US stands a chance of getting smaller debris this weekend. https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aqqzn/a-huge-chinese-rocket-part-is-making-an-out-of-control-descent-to-earth
The chinese design intentionaly rains debris back to Earth.
Basicly all space debris will fall eventually given the vastness of time.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia
Date: 09 May 21 - 10:48 AM

Yesterday I saw a YOuTube video that exhibited the worst and the best of humanity:

fire

The worst: four adults got out of a burning house and did not inform firefighters that there was a child still inside.

The best: a firefighter went inside to search, saw movement, and rescued her. I don't think this was merely good luck, because the fire chief said he asked the adults over and over if anyone was inside. It sounds like the chief suspected they were lying.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 May 21 - 11:05 AM

The family wanted the dogs out but didn't mention the baby - yes, this is a case for CPS!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 11 May 21 - 06:34 PM

On npr I listened to the author of 'The Master and his Emmisary. In this radio lab show he pointed at how the obvious split/bicameral mind was hiding its secrets in plain sight. While the left has close focus the right has the big picture. To me it is the reason that hypnosis even works on the autosomatic nervous system. The elusive why questions are answered. He does generalize in the larger sociologic civilization and may turn some of his converts around but overall it is ahead of its time making Freud a nonsense experience.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 21 - 10:48 AM

There is not a single gas station open here anymore. Another DC ransomware attack of the police have published the info on 26 policemen. Its hackorrific around here lately.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 May 21 - 11:02 AM

The news needs to be that governments and businesses do a better job of protecting their data.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 21 - 11:59 AM

Solar Winds had a vulnerability that led to the government.
Updates can be the enemy.

Here is a cute but miraculus story about medical discoveries from 1,000 year old English libraries. It makes me think what was lost in the Alexandria Library destruction.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/best-medicine

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 21 - 09:52 AM

The bionic boot will enable people to run between 30 to 40 mph by mimicing the achilles tendon of the kangaroo and ostrich. It is not yet available for purchase. Its made of aircraft aluminum, fiberglass and rubber.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 May 21 - 09:16 AM

Ooh I want some 7-league boots!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 21 - 07:10 PM

Earliest known plague victim pushed back to 5k yo, in what is now Latvia [many, many sites reporting this as Oldest known but noooo]!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jul 21 - 09:33 AM

The Charlottesville statues of Lee and Jackson came down this morning, woot!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 21 - 11:17 AM

Ransomware: This new ransom tracker reveals how much bitcoin gangs have been paid
The new Ransomwhere site crowdsources bitcoin payments to wallets associated with ransomware gangs.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 01:36 PM

Also the statues of Sacagewea crouching at the feet of Lewis and Clarke, and of the frontiersman threatening the natives.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Jos
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 02:02 PM

What does 'woot' mean?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 04:20 PM

"Woot!" is a cheer.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jul 21 - 07:48 PM

Collision on the MBTA Green Line:
this is my old stomping grounds,
as an undergraduate at Boston University.

Friday Afternoon rush hour, and
two Green Line trains on the B route, both outbound,
collide with each other on the same track,
the one behind running into the one in front.
Ambulances and people being taken to hospital.
No fatalities at least, and they say, no life-threatening injuries.

Collision near Boston University

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Jul 21 - 08:54 PM

The driver accountable for the streetcar crash in the previous post,
had been seven years driving for the MBTA.
Now on administrative leave.
23 people taken to hospital.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 31 Jul 21 - 10:44 PM

The driver accountable for the streetcar crash in the previous post, ....

From the article linked to:-

It wasn't immediately clear what caused the crash, and Poftak didn't want to speculate as the investigation began.

.... whether this was operator error or some kind of mechanical malfunction ...

The driver may turn out to be accountable. On the other hand, he may be just an innocent victim. Take care before assigning blame.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 11:52 PM

Okkaaaayyyy they got condors reproducing asexually. Parthenogenic condors. Baby condors with one, female, parent. Wow.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Oct 21 - 01:12 AM

Condorlics worship their virgin birth savior.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Oct 21 - 11:05 AM

Yes, there are two incidences of it, both chicks were male.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Oct 21 - 11:08 AM

This news is a long time coming. We need to get rid of for-profit prisons.

Detainees who earned just $1 a day are owed $17 million in back pay, a jury orders

A federal jury in Tacoma, Wash., says the GEO Group, which owns and runs a large detention center for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, owes former detainees $17.3 million in back pay for tasks such as cleaning and cooking meals.

The Florida-based for-profit prison company paid detainees $1 a day for such work, a practice the jury determined earlier this week is a violation of the state's minimum wage law. On Friday, they announced how much back pay was owed.

"This was about fair wages for work," says Adam Berger, an attorney with Schroeter Goldmark & Bender, which brought a class action on behalf of former detainees. "These detained immigrants are just emblematic of other workers in this economy who are in exploitive labor situations."

One former detainee who joined the suit is Nigerian-born Goodluck Nwauzor. He says he was detained at the Tacoma facility for eight months, starting in 2016, as he waited for his asylum claim to be processed. During that time he cleaned showers for a dollar a day. He says the GEO Group didn't force people to do such work, but he saw little choice.

"You have to do it, to get the money to get the stuff you need, or also make a call to your friends and family members," Nwauzor told NPR on Friday. "It's unfair. Because the amount of the job, or the kind of job we do, is beyond what they were paying us."

The class action was consolidated with a separate lawsuit brought by the state of Washington, which accused the GEO Group of violating state labor law and enriching itself unjustly.

The rest of the story at the link.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 21 - 08:14 AM

There is news and then there is what seems like news to me...
Little did Clem Kiddlehopper know he was linked to quantum mechanics and the many worlds theory of reality but now the randomness is clearly seen in our politics culture wars and humor of today.

Beyond Steven Hawking's explanation of the black hole information paradox, we are now at the end of the beggining of its solution

-this-
has helped me explain how black holes turn matter into space that expands space time in the form of dark energy that is accelerating by means of escape inside of WORMHOLES. I never knew how the space got out of the interior of a singularity before. Moreover the space contains information but we do not currently know how to decode space information as we do with particles.

So instead of Hawking's theory of escaping black hole radiation 'I' see it as escaping emergent space. Ergo space time is emergent and
gravity is emergent and probably every other god damn thing is emergent. Perhaps this is why we have so many 'emergencies'. :^}

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 09:18 PM

Walrus leaves Arctic comfort zone for snooze on Dutch Walrus-class submarine ... Freya, as the animal has been named, is the first of her species to visit the Netherlands in 23 years. She was spotted snoozing on a submarine in the naval port of Den Helder by Jeroen Hoekendijk, a Dutch scientist specialising in marine mammals ... Hoekendijk was instructed that he wasn’t allowed to board the vessel to photograph the animal, only to be told; ‘But you can walk on it.’ He also noted that the vessel happens to be a ‘Walrus-class submarine’ – and is named Zr. Ms. Dolfijn.
Social media users quipped that the Arctic mammal showed an “excellent example of animal-initiated civil resistance”, and that “considering military are huge contributors to carbon emissions, the walrus is probably protesting climate justice”. Others, however, thought it was very nice of the Dutch navy not to kick the walrus off their boat ...

yes, the Dutch word Dolfijn is the English word Dolfin

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Nov 21 - 05:33 PM

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/top-ten-scientific-discoveries-decade-180973873/

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 02:26 PM

In health issues not related to COVID, we see the rise of syphilis.

Syphilis is resurging in the U.S., a sign of public health's funding crisis

Yang carries a stack of cards issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that show what happens when the Treponema pallidum bacteria invades a patient's body. There's a photo of an angry red sore on a penis. There's one of a tongue, marred by mucus-lined lesions. And there's one of a newborn baby, its belly, torso and thighs dotted in a rash, its mouth open, as if caught midcry.

It was because of the prospect of one such baby that Yang found herself walking through a homeless encampment on a blazing July day in Huron, Calif., an hour's drive southwest of her office at the Fresno County Department of Public Health.

She was looking for a pregnant woman named Angelica, whose visit to a community clinic had triggered a report to the health department's sexually transmitted disease program. Angelica had tested positive for syphilis. If she was not treated, her baby could end up like the one in the picture or worse — there was a 40% chance the baby would die.

Yang knew, though, that if she helped Angelica get treated with three weekly shots of penicillin at least 30 days before she gave birth, it was likely that the infection would be wiped out and her baby would be born without any symptoms at all. Every case of congenital syphilis, when a baby is born with the disease, is avoidable. Each is considered a "sentinel event," a warning that the public health system is failing.

The alarms are now clamoring. In the United States, more than 129,800 syphilis cases were recorded in 2019, double the case count of five years prior. In the same time period, cases of congenital syphilis quadrupled: 1,870 babies were born with the disease; 128 died. Case counts from 2020 are still being finalized, but the CDC has said that reported cases of congenital syphilis have already exceeded the prior year. Black, Hispanic and Native American babies are disproportionately at risk.

"Syphilis is not an outlier. The United States goes through what former CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden calls "a deadly cycle of panic and neglect" in which emergencies propel officials to scramble and throw money at a problem — whether that's Ebola, Zika or COVID-19. Then, as fear ebbs, so does the attention and motivation to finish the task."

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 03:49 PM

Syphilis is a spirochete thats hard to defeat like Lyme disease.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jan 22 - 12:42 PM

Those medieval war horses? Ponies.

I wonder if a fall from the huge warhorses we imagined would be fatal, in armor.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jan 22 - 10:37 PM

Spiderman, Iron Man, and... Spaceman Spiff?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 02:59 PM

I learned today that Ford has created a new smaller and affordable pickup truck, the Maverick. This link will probably hit a paywall, but for those who subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, here is news of a slowdown in production. Ford Shuts Off Orders for New $20,000 Maverick Pickup

Ford Motor Co. is taking the unusual step of cutting off customer orders for the Maverick, a more-affordable pickup that it rolled out last fall, saying it has maxed out on what it can build.

The move is a sign that American shoppers are hungry for more-affordable options as prices for new cars and trucks hit new records and availability remains constrained on dealership lots.

Ford told dealers Monday that it is suspending customer orders for the Maverick pickup truck because it is already straining to fill a backlog. The company will resume taking orders for the 2023 Maverick in the summer, it said in a memo to dealers, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

“We didn’t want to take more orders than we could build,” said Dean Stoneley, general manager of Ford trucks, in an interview. “We’re getting customers who would have perhaps bought a used car and are now buying the Maverick because it is so affordable,” he said.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 05:31 PM

To correct what was said below, syphilis is easily treated, often by a single injection of antibiotic if caught early, and by a bit more antibiotic treatment than that if neglected even for a considerable time.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 05:37 PM

Cephalexin is one such antibiotic.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 05:45 PM

Syphilis is still treated by drug-of-choice good ol' penicillin. There are more choices than just that. I believe it's eaily treated, although people may ignore the possibility they might have it.
Lyme disease is dead simple to treat in the early staged. Again, people may want to believe they're "just fine". I knew someone who ended up with tertiary Lyme, because he just didn't seek treatment when the rashes appeared.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 08:51 PM

I guess I'm the only one here interested in having a pickup truck again in the future. They're untouchable, even used, and that's before COVID pushed up prices.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 22 - 06:53 AM

Miss the early stages of lyme and its antibiotics for up to 3 years to be gone. Some doctors underestimate the duration. Pick up trucks can last almost forever without penacillain.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 22 - 09:35 AM

Up to 100 blankets are being delivered to students at McGruder High School for the poor dears who are being counseled regarding an incident where a fellow student was shot in the rest room but concealed it from any adult or teacher when the child was found later after having bled to death. Only a few of the kids did not know of the shooting but only feel bad about the incident. The future belongs to the children.
A home assembled ghost gun was used. A modern miracle of 3D printers.
I am not surprised at the mob mentality.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 22 - 06:33 PM

We are in the beggining of the snitches and rat society. Florida has made it illegal for teachers to say anything that parents will feel is DIVISIVE. The guilty teacher will pay the court costs. Virginia's new GOP govenor is doing the same with banning anything to do with CRT. Hello Farenheit 500.

Am I provocative? Hell yes but anyone should state their stand or lack of one imo.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Jan 22 - 10:24 PM

Virginia, yeah. Down the drain. Sigh. And we had been doing so well.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Jan 22 - 06:17 PM

An eight-year-old boy wrote a book that he decided to share, so he tucked it into the books in the children's section at his local library. It now has a barcode and is in circulation. :)

An 8-year-old slid his handwritten book onto a library shelf. It now has a years-long waitlist.

He later confessed to his mother, Susan Helbig, that he slid his book into the stacks and left it there, undetected. But when they returned about two days later, to the spot where he left the notebook, it was missing. Helbig called the library to ask whether anyone had found Dillon’s notebook and to request that they please not throw it away.

Branch manager Alex Hartman said he was surprised at Dillon’s bold move.

“It was a sneaky act,” said Hartman, laughing. But Dillon’s book “was far too obviously special an item for us to consider getting rid of it.”

Hartman and a few co-workers had discovered and read Dillon’s book — which describes his adventures putting an exploding star on his Christmas tree and being catapulted back to the first Thanksgiving and the North Pole. They found it very entertaining.

Hartman read the book to his 6-year-old son, Cruzen, who giggled and said it was one of the funniest books he’d ever known. . . . The staff librarians who read Dillon’s book agreed that as informal and unconventional as it was, the book met the selection criteria for the collection in that it was a high-quality story that was fun to read. So, Hartman asked Helbig for permission to tack a bar code onto the book and formally add it to the library’s collection.

Dillon’s parents enthusiastically said yes, and the book is now part of the graphic-novels section for kids, teens and adults. The library even gave Dillon its first Whoodini Award for Best Young Novelist, a category the library created for him, named after the library’s owl mascot.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 31 Jan 22 - 06:41 PM

wonderful news, I've shared it with librarian friends & grandparent friends.

Long live creative children!

Long live books!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Feb 22 - 10:58 AM

Washington has named its [American] football team the Commanders.

Wish it was the DC Commanders rather than the Washington Commanders. Everybody is going to say the Washington Re-Um-Commanders for years. If they had changed Washington to DC, it would have avoided that neatly.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 06:34 PM

Football teams that have more than 2 syllables always get pared down syllable wise like the San Francisco 49ers always gets contracted to the '49ers'. The Commanders will be abbreviated to the 'Commies'.

Putin has made a war movie meant to be taken seriously as a documantary of Ukraine attacking the Russians. The fake special effects are a not dead giveaway.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 06:41 PM

https://www.scientificamerican.com/magazine/sa/2021/06-01/

if you want a digital copy

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 02:55 PM

They seem to have found Captain Cook's wrecked Endeavour... Fascinating arguments ongoing because the wrong people said so, or something.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 11:28 PM

It is so cold it parts of Texas that trees are exploding.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 02:45 PM

Wearing shoes weakens your ankle. Old news because I read it in a copy of the New Scientist dated a year ago. OK before someone points it out, maybe they don't allow the ankle to beef up like we evolved to do.

Tribes who wear no shoes or soft moccasins have stronger ankles, it was found.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 03:00 PM

My stretching video host (Essentrics) said that in the DVD routine I was working yesterday. She wants people to exercise barefoot for that reason.

Here's a scary story that was tucked away in a corner as I was researching something else: Kush: Sierra Leone's new illegal drug. What is this? I only watched the first minute or so of the video, it looks pretty harsh.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 01:32 PM

A gun manufacturer has to pay 9 mass shooting victims' families $73 million.

About time.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 02:31 PM

Remington settles for 73 million regarding Sandy Hook Murders

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 02:40 PM

btw Prince Andrew settles sex suit
in the back of his closet.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 03:01 PM

I just looked him up - Andrew's rank in the military was Vice Admiral.

Seems about right. :)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 04:55 PM

an actual LOL.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 07:26 PM

Republican made federal immunity laws for gun manufacturers persist but local and state laws regarding marketing exposed Remington to have to speak the language and bear the costs of their deeds which is money.

As if the costs are not already high enough

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 22 - 09:50 PM

The elephants in the room are the coming Russsin cyber attacks and many websites going offline.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Feb 22 - 05:23 PM

News to me is how easy it is to shoot a 360^o photo for Google street view. You can use a good digital camera or use your smart phone and an app. I wonder if they can also go on Google Earth? Anyway, you don't need to wait for the Google car with it's protruding camera to roll past, you can shoot a video and add it yourself.

How To Take 360 Photos For Google Maps in 5 easy steps.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Feb 22 - 02:10 PM

Ahmaud Arbery's murderers convicted of being racist af.

Yay.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Feb 22 - 05:04 PM

listening to a report on the news at the moment

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Feb 22 - 04:27 AM

Australia - baby born at an unlikely 2.22pm and 22 seconds on February 22, 2022

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Apr 22 - 10:08 PM

How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens
The inside story of the world’s most notorious commercial spyware and the big tech companies waging war against it.

Ronan Farrow

Campo collected records of Solé’s phone’s activity, including crashes it had experienced, then ran specialized software to search for spyware designed to operate invisibly. As they waited, Campo looked through the phone for evidence of attacks that take varied forms: some arrive through WhatsApp or as S.M.S. messages that seem to come from known contacts; some require a click on a link, and others operate with no action from the user. Campo identified an apparent notification from the Spanish government’s social-security agency which used the same format as links to malware that the Citizen Lab had found on other phones. “With this message, we have the proof that at some point you were attacked,” Campo explained. Soon, Solé’s phone vibrated. “This phone tested positive,” the screen read. Campo told Solé, “There’s two confirmed infections,” from June, 2020. “In those days, your device was infected—they took control of it and were on it probably for some hours. Downloading, listening, recording.”

You get a few free articles a month so if this won't let you read it, try a different browser or clear out your cookies (or look for the New Yorker ones and remove them).

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 22 - 08:53 AM

In local Wash DC news a pro life woman was arrested for having 5 aborted embryos in her apartment.

The Capitol Bld. was evauated yesterday when an Army prachute team surprised everyone by dropping down just accross the expressway onto a baseball field.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Apr 22 - 01:36 PM

While the COVID-19 shutdown was impacting people's jobs and businesses and transportation and supply chain and all, banks were busy hoovering up federal funds to support the infrastructure.

While JPMorgan Chase Was Getting Trillions of Dollars in Loans at Almost Zero Percent Interest from the Fed, It Was Charging Americans Hit by the Pandemic 17 Percent on their Credit Cards

That doesn't mean they were doing what they were supposed to be doing with the cash. Instead of making the credit available to people who needed it, they continued making life difficult and expensive.

A trading unit of JPMorgan Chase also borrowed $400 billion in cumulative, term-adjusted loans from the Fed’s Primary Dealer Credit Facility (PDCF) during 2020. All of those loans were made at a fixed rate of 0.25 percent even though the Fed accepted lower-grade collateral, such as asset-backed securities, for some of the loans.

JPMorgan Chase’s money market funds also needed to borrow a cumulative $24.8 billion from the Fed’s Money Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility (MMLF) to bail themselves out during March and April of 2020. Some of those loans didn’t mature until 2021. JPMorgan borrowed from the Fed’s MMLF at rates between 0.50 and 1.25 percent.

While JPMorgan Chase, which has admitted to five criminal felony counts since 2014, was getting these sweetheart deals from the Fed, it was charging Americans who were struggling from the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic as much as 17 percent on their credit cards. You can read one of its credit card customer’s complaints about that 17 percent interest at this link at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s (CFPB) complaint database.

Further down the article:

We asked the CFPB database to show us just complaints against JPMorgan Chase since it started receiving those cozy low-interest repo loans from the Fed on September 17, 2019 – months before any COVID-19 cases had been reported anywhere in the world. The database turned up 28,974 complaints. You can browse through them here.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Dec 22 - 08:05 AM

Giant aquarium bursts in Berlin hotel lobby

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Dec 22 - 11:57 AM

With 1,500 tropical fish inside. That has to be a colossal mess. I haven't seen many photos so far.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Dec 22 - 04:29 PM

Waiting for security video

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Dec 22 - 12:15 PM

Here's a warm and fuzzy story - emphasis on warm!

A baker in North Yorkshire, England is letting patrons use his oven for free

It can take between four and six hours to bake a traditional British fruit cake. Given the high price of energy, a baker in North Yorkshire, England is letting patrons use his oven for free.

With the price of fuel rising so high in Europe and the United Kingdom this year, a British baker is trying to help. Ed Hamilton-Trewhitt owns Brickyard Bakery in Guisborough in North Yorkshire, England. He's decided to open a warming room on the floor above his bakery's large oven. He knew elders and pensioners in the area were on tight budgets and thought the extra heat given off by his oven might help, so he fitted out a sitting room upstairs with tea and coffee, cozy chairs, newspapers and magazines for anybody who wants to come by and get warm. No radio?

This month he's also making his oven available for anyone who'd like to make a holiday cake but is wary about the cost of fuel. A traditional Christmas fruitcake can take between four and six hours to bake, so Mr. Hamilton-Trewhitt is bringing back a custom from the Middle Ages, the community oven. Anybody who wants a cake baked can bring their batter in a baking pan. He'll cook it in his oven for free. And if people can't get to the bakery, he's offered to drop by and pick up any unbaked cake on a Friday and deliver it back nicely cooked on Monday. It's a great recipe for holiday cheer.

This was published on December 17.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Dec 22 - 12:21 PM

Any Lancashire lad (such as meself) will tell you that a Yorkshireman who'll give you summat for nowt is as rare as rocking-horse poo. I can only conclude that this kind gentleman must be an immigrant from Lancashire...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Dec 22 - 03:12 PM

Tasmanian devil found under couch in Hobart home, after being mistaken for dog's plush toy

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Dec 22 - 04:29 PM

I saw at the store a 12-pack of cans featuring liquid fruitcake soda.
It was printed to look like fruitcake and was a limited edition by Mountain Dew.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Jan 23 - 10:44 PM

headline in today's paper - MUSK FIRST PERSON TO LOSE $US200B

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jan 23 - 09:23 AM

They seem to have caught the Idaho murderer

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jan 23 - 10:32 AM

The Ritz Carlton has been launched to sea. For an ultra-Ritzy luxury cruise with accouterments that far exceed any other yacht or cruise ship. They have canopies like hummingbird tongues on toast with caviar smoothies or dolphin fin soup with gold dusted croutons. The Celeocanthe filet is to die for. The beds have a magic fingers option attached to real escorts. The Navigation is run by the most advanced AI system and is powered by nuclear power pod engines.
The Ritz Carlton yacht

You will notice no life boats because it is unsinkable. The runabout is for the captain.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 02 Jan 23 - 11:49 AM

Well, that's not going to keep the rain off!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 23 - 05:03 AM

The Russian state broadcaster, RT, is back on Youtube this morning!
The tide in the US is turning: Google has quietly allowed RT news back on it's platform. It would seem the Twitter files are having an effect, as they proved the US government was engaged in unconstitutional suppression of free speech by outsourcing the censorship to private media companies, social media platforms, etc. To be clear, this media censorship in the west has meant that most ordinary people have no idea how corrupt the Ukraine is, nor of the devastating effect of Nazism not only having spread there, but being officially endorsed. The general public in the West does not know to what extent free speech was suppressed there through brutality and people being 'disappeared' and murdered.
As to the US government's unconstitutional activities in regard to censorship, the mainstream media is remaining quiet.
It would seem this is being hushed up and brushed under the carpet in order to avoid public outrage and any risk of investigation, prosecution, or government inquiry.
I now wonder if all other private social media platforms are quietly releasing themselves from government intrusion? Will FB will let this post stand? Indeed, is there a new clandestine government directive that is attempting to right the wrongs?
In any case, the likes of Sputnik, an RT spinoff that provided a platform for many western dissident journalists, is not yet back online in the West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-oCpEnIq4...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 23 - 05:05 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-oCpEnIq4...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 23 - 06:25 AM

War is a horror ain't it.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Jan 23 - 09:13 PM

The Ritz Carlton yacht: "unsinkable", and they use --- no, *boast* --- of using Artificial Incompetence in their nav .... Is the captain called Hugh Briss?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jan 23 - 08:25 AM

That [Ameeican] football player woke up.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jan 23 - 11:13 AM

Donuel, that boat looks like one I read about last year that was seized from one of the Russian oligarchs.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jan 23 - 02:41 PM

Ooh someone figured out the dots on the Lascsaux cave paintings!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 10:41 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/19/tech/amazon-smile-shut-down/index.html

Amazon is shutting down its “Smile” charity donation program as the company cuts costs and rethinks its strategy.

The Smile initiative will shut down by February 20, [2023,] Amazon said in a statement Wednesday, explaining the “program has not grown to create the impact that we had originally hoped.”

Amazon Smile donated a small percentage of sales made on eligible purchases to a charity that shoppers chose. In total, $500 million has been donated since its 2013 launch, with an average donation of less than $230 per charity, the company said.

“With so many eligible organizations — more than 1 million globally — our ability to have an impact was often spread too thin,” Amazon (AMZN) added. Charities enrolled in the program will get a one-time donation “equivalent to three months of what they earned in 2022,” Amazon (AMZN) said, noting that charities will still be able to accrue donations until the program closes.

They want higher profits as they lay off 18,000 employees. The charity I chose has received a lot more than $230; I look just now and the number is $203,459.44.

https://smile.amazon.com/charity/my-impact?ref_=nav_cs_smile. If you've used the program, you can see how your charity stacks up.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 08:00 PM

The Linus project [blankets for disasters and births (or both)] has grown to overwhelm our house. I deliver them about four times a week but wy wife's time expenditure of time and effort is ten times mine.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 08:54 PM

That's nice, Don! What kind of blankets does she make?

I have a basket full of "crumbs" that are small pieces of fabric leftover from all of the masks I've made. Lots of different fabric colors and patterns. I am interested in learning to make crazy quilts, but it might be easier to offer these pieces to people who quilt seriously and would use them more promptly that I will.

My daughter took up crochet years ago, but during COVID she really upped the output by crocheting squares during ZOOM meetings. She makes them into blankets and I think those are donated.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 10:29 PM

Large and small. They all have a theme of some kind in patterns or colors. Her sister is a quilting master with a special oversized sewing machine, not just a long-arm machine..
The project has brought me to various places like churches, catered upstairs bank boardrooms, schools, Jains temple, assisted living complexes that are surrounded by horse pastures, city hall, Jo Anns and homes. I am surprised at the volume of fabric donations.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 23 - 04:32 PM

and hospitals.

BTW Pense has classified documents at home, Not to be outdone Santos claims "I have some too!"

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 10:30 AM

This scary story seems to have resolved itself overnight.

Craig Ross Jr. charged with kidnapping 9-year-old Charlotte Sena from Moreau Lake State Park in Upstate New York

Last we heard there was a huge search for the girl snatched from her bike in a large campground; lucky for Ms Sena she seems to have been kidnapped by a not-very-bright kidnapper who was pretty easily detected and brought in. Anyone who watches the police procedurals knows he should have worn gloves when handling a ransom note he stuffed into the family mailbox in the wee hours.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 11:30 AM

This beautiful area was the gem of Iroquois and Mohawk Indian land.
https://nystateparks.blog/2020/01/07/state-parkland-expansion-touches-colonial-native-american-history/

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER * Health/Home Ecologic-Innovation *2023
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 01:42 PM

Cat Bohannon has written a book called Eve, how the female body drove 200 Million Years of Evolution. Her work can be overviewed in Scientific American, Science Magazine, and an NPR interview that aired on today's date. This Guardian link misses the mark but does not have a paywall.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/30/how-women-drove-evolution-cat-bohannon-on-her-radical-new-history-of-humanity

Until 1999 women were left out of most drug trials so even over the counter drugs have been a gamble for women who respond differently.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 01:53 PM

Argh. Israel.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 02:04 PM

The EU and the US have immediately condemned Hamas and sided with Israel. That's disgusting. I don't like what Hamas are doing but I'm not going to forget the dreadful things visited on the Palestinians over the last few decades, and, more specifically and relevantly in this instance, to Gaza, which get a free pass from Israel's chief ally. Two and a quarter million civilians blockaded into a stinking ghetto, deprived of proper medical care and even of decent drinking water by the Israeli regime. It's new news and it's bloody bad news. Sickening.

Subject: BS: Chocolate Colonialism
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 12:29 PM

One and a half million children work in Chocolate Plantations for little or no pay. Chocolate beans that make about 500 chocolate bars get the farmers only $80.

The fair trade for coffee growers allows the farmers about 20% more for their crop. There is room for improvement for farmers, for sure.

Fixing the child labor problem will make your chocolate more expensive.

source: CBS Sunday Morning

Subject: RE: BS: News about halloween COCKTAILS
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 05:56 PM

ENCHANTED OOZE
Enchanted Ooze is an edible glitter slime martini made with muddled pear and house-made green simple syrup. The outcome is a light, clean, fruit forward drink, far less ominous than its disturbing title.

Ingredients:
2.0 oz House-made pear infused Tito’s Handmade Vodka
2 Slices muddled pear
0.5 oz Egg whites
0.5 oz Midori Melon liqueur
0.5 oz House-made green simple syrup
Wilton Edible Glitter
Mist of Absinthe

Method:
Muddle fresh pear (2 slices). Add egg white, melon liqueur, green simple syrup and pear infused vodka. Shake hard with ice and pour into a martini glass. Pinch of glitter and two sprays of Absinthe.

-----------------

KOFEFE

Kofefe is a revenge drink suitable for divorcing couples or horrible bosses. The outcome is a disguised disgusting drink that is sure to peese. Not suitable for minors.

Ingredients:
3 oz. Stoli
1 oz. Kalua coffee liquer
1/2 oz Galliano
splash of lemon juice
as much urine as you think best.

serve over ice

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 23 - 08:01 AM

The future of home building appears to be 3D digital printing of everything except the roof. print your house

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Oct 23 - 11:52 PM

Here's an interesting reversal of fortune:

A California judge has quashed one of Sonos's legal victories against Google – and the $32.5 million royalty payout that came along with it – declaring Sonos's patents at the heart of the matter were the unenforceable work of a "pretender" attempting to "punish an innovator … by delay and sleight of hand."

Judge William Alsup's order [PDF] invalidating the two patents at issue vacates a jury verdict from May of this year. The jury had found Google had infringed one of the patents, which concerned managing groups of smart speakers in a multi-room space.

Essentially, in this particular case, Sonos said the ability to group together Google Nest and Home smart speakers in your house or apartment – specifically, allowing gear to belong to more than one speaker group – infringed its intellectual property, and it demanded royalties. Sonos is also known for its multi-room speaker kit.

Unfortunately for Sonos, Alsup, a federal district judge in San Francisco, concluded after some investigation by himself that the two patents – 10,848,885 and 10,469,966 – in question were unenforceable based on a doctrine known as "prosecution laches." The rarely used laches defense is applicable when there is an unreasonable and unexplained delay in patent prosecution despite opportunities to do so earlier.

The patents in suit stem from an application made way back in 2006, Alsup explained, "but [Sonos] did not file the applications for these patents and present the asserted claims for examination until 2019." Sonos linking its 2019 patents (used to challenge Google in court) to that earlier 2006 application was spurious, the judge concluded, and was done only to claim a prior date before Google's allegedly infringing products came to market in 2015.

Summing it up:

Sonos was trying to punish Google retroactively by reaching into the past and connecting patent filings made over a decade apart.

"This was not a case of an inventor leading the industry to something new. This was a case of the industry leading with something new and, only then, an inventor coming out of the woodwork to say that he had come up with the idea first – wringing fresh claims to read on a competitor's products from an ancient application," Alsup lamented.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

Enjoy your annular eclipse, yanks. I don't know exactly where any of youse live so I don't know who if anyone will get the full view. Someone in Texas, huh!

We had a total eclipse in Cornwall on August 11 1999 just after 11 am. Here in Bude the coverage of the sun was 99%, so we drove to Sharp Tor on Bodmin Moor (half an hour away) where we had to hike to the top. The cloud miraculously parted for a few minutes and we were just about the only people in the country to see it from the ground. The shadow rushing towards us across the countryside was scary and stunning, black as night and very chilly for a few minutes, and we saw Baily's beads, the diamond ring and the corona.

Another time in the spring of 2015 I was in hospital when there was a partial eclipse with most of the sun covered. It didn't go dark but it was strangely dull despite the clear blue sky. I made a makeshift pinhole camera out of cardboard with a safety pin, and had all the beautiful nurses in the ward crowding round me to see it . Ah, science can be so rewarding! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 09:37 AM

If that asteroid-supposed-to-be-like-early-planet has water and organic (carbon-containing) molecules, why is that not taken as showing that these appear naturally early on in planet formation? I keep reading they think it shows things *brought* those *to* our early planet.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 11:13 AM

Suppose planetary debris with amino acids, water, and organic molecules, and perhaps DNA or RNA, then that would be the debris that the Pan Spermia theory proposes.

On the other hand the Earth may have become an original womb of life without a headstart from previous bacterial or viral life.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 01:36 PM

We had about 80% of the eclipse here, it was eerily dim outside for a while and lovely crescent shadows on the front path under the baldcypress.

In 2017 we had a total eclipse pass over North Texas and it was quite an event on a nice day so those of us on campus got out and looked at all of the ways crescent shapes could appear as sunlight shone through all sorts of natural and manmade orifices.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 03:53 PM

I don't know where else to note the developments in Poland.
The parliamentary election today bears upon
Poland's relationship with Ukraine,
and indirectly on its longstanding position against Russia.

Where would Lech Walesa stand if he were still alive, I wonder?

Subject: RE: SEX CHANGE
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 12:26 PM

Sex change in ocean species is fairly common. Shrimp, oysters, parrot fish, clown fish, and many others are all born one sex and become another.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 01:23 PM

On the whole, the news from Poland looks good.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

It does look good for Poland. A light spot considering so much gloom in other areas.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 05:29 PM

A Jupiter size planet with orbiting debris that may make 4 more moons.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 06:27 PM

Yes, the Poland parliamentary election
shows a turn from right towards center.
A big deal when you are part of the EU,
and a big relief for the other nations
as well as Poland's more moderate citizens.

After what happened in Central Europe
before the last world war,
it is to be hoped that Poland will stay moderate now.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 10:21 AM

I am liking this trend of celebrities not telling us when the split up. I never cared anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 11:27 AM

Mrrzy, it also means less red meat to chum the news cycle waters. Now if Britney Spears had just decided to not add to her 15 minutes of fame with a book and kept to singing, the news cycle wouldn't be so odd this weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Oct 23 - 09:36 AM

!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 05:37 PM

Orphaned eastern grey kangaroo joey fitted with prosthetic after losing part of tail awww, so cute! so clever - bloke who makes prosthetic limbs for people has a go making one for a roo cos it can't balance & hop about properly.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 08:38 PM

We have a Speaker!

Pourvu que ça dure, as maman Létitia said (avec son accent corse) about her son Napoleon.

I am reminded of Speaker-to-Animals, the not-so-docile Kzin.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 23 - 02:49 PM

I recently learned about tree kangaroos. Yep they live up in the trees.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Oct 23 - 06:18 PM

wikipedia on tree kangaroos

video

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Nov 23 - 05:56 PM

Australia's fashion waste is a growing problem, but these scientists say they have an answer It looks and feels like children's playdough, but this colourful clay being made in a lab at Deakin University in Geelong, is actually old clothing.
For the past five years, scientists at the university's Institute for Frontier Materials have been trialling different methods to figure out the best way to recycle Australia's growing textile waste.
Now, they think they've found a way.
"What we've discovered is that we can take waste textiles and grind them up into really fine particles, which we can then use as a pigment to re-dye new textiles," Emma Prime, Deakin University's strategic research manager, said. (read on)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Nov 23 - 10:12 PM

Bankman fries?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Nov 23 - 07:11 AM

He won't be fried, but he's going to the cooler.

Who could buy his magic beans and not expect they were fake?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 Nov 23 - 04:27 PM

How a Melbourne recycling program is using old hotel soap to solve a global health problem ... A decade after Soap Aid's inception, boxes of used soap from 250 hotels across Australia and New Zealand come to a warehouse in Melbourne's south.

Some soap is yellow-brown, cracked, and filthy. Others are pristine and in their original wrappings.

Phase one includes manually and visually checking, and sorting what is not salvageable.

The rest is checked by a metal detector and scraped clean by hand.

"I check up to 200 kilograms a day," shouts a worker proudly over the whirr of machinery.

Then, soap that is deemed to be reusable is dumped into a machine for a multi-phase process to treat, smash, strain, and then re-mould the soap ...

Mr Matulick said Soap Aid supplied 2.9 million bars of soap to communities in need across the world, including remote and regional Indigenous communities in Australia ...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Nov 23 - 12:38 PM

Iceland declared a state of emergency regarding an impending volcanic eruption.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 01:53 PM

Argh. Israel.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 09:37 AM

If that asteroid-supposed-to-be-like-early-planet has water and organic (carbon-containing) molecules, why is that not taken as showing that these appear naturally early on in planet formation? I keep reading they think it shows things *brought* those *to* our early planet.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 10:21 AM

I am liking this trend of celebrities not telling us when the split up. I never cared anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 11:30 AM

This beautiful area was the gem of Iroquois and Mohawk Indian land.
https://nystateparks.blog/2020/01/07/state-parkland-expansion-touches-colonial-native-american-history/

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER * Health/Home Ecologic-Innovation *2023
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 01:42 PM

Cat Bohannon has written a book called Eve, how the female body drove 200 Million Years of Evolution. Her work can be overviewed in Scientific American, Science Magazine, and an NPR interview that aired on today's date. This Guardian link misses the mark but does not have a paywall.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/30/how-women-drove-evolution-cat-bohannon-on-her-radical-new-history-of-humanity

Until 1999 women were left out of most drug trials so even over the counter drugs have been a gamble for women who respond differently.

Subject: BS: Chocolate Colonialism
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 12:29 PM

One and a half million children work in Chocolate Plantations for little or no pay. Chocolate beans that make about 500 chocolate bars get the farmers only $80.

The fair trade for coffee growers allows the farmers about 20% more for their crop. There is room for improvement for farmers, for sure.

Fixing the child labor problem will make your chocolate more expensive.

source: CBS Sunday Morning

Subject: RE: BS: News about halloween COCKTAILS
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 05:56 PM

ENCHANTED OOZE
Enchanted Ooze is an edible glitter slime martini made with muddled pear and house-made green simple syrup. The outcome is a light, clean, fruit forward drink, far less ominous than its disturbing title.

Ingredients:
2.0 oz House-made pear infused Tito’s Handmade Vodka
2 Slices muddled pear
0.5 oz Egg whites
0.5 oz Midori Melon liqueur
0.5 oz House-made green simple syrup
Wilton Edible Glitter
Mist of Absinthe

Method:
Muddle fresh pear (2 slices). Add egg white, melon liqueur, green simple syrup and pear infused vodka. Shake hard with ice and pour into a martini glass. Pinch of glitter and two sprays of Absinthe.

-----------------

KOFEFE

Kofefe is a revenge drink suitable for divorcing couples or horrible bosses. The outcome is a disguised disgusting drink that is sure to peese. Not suitable for minors.

Ingredients:
3 oz. Stoli
1 oz. Kalua coffee liquer
1/2 oz Galliano
splash of lemon juice
as much urine as you think best.

serve over ice

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 23 - 08:01 AM

The future of home building appears to be 3D digital printing of everything except the roof. print your house

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 11:13 AM

Suppose planetary debris with amino acids, water, and organic molecules, and perhaps DNA or RNA, then that would be the debris that the Pan Spermia theory proposes.

On the other hand the Earth may have become an original womb of life without a headstart from previous bacterial or viral life.

Subject: RE: SEX CHANGE
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 12:26 PM

Sex change in ocean species is fairly common. Shrimp, oysters, parrot fish, clown fish, and many others are all born one sex and become another.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 05:29 PM

A Jupiter size planet with orbiting debris that may make 4 more moons.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 10:30 AM

This scary story seems to have resolved itself overnight.

Craig Ross Jr. charged with kidnapping 9-year-old Charlotte Sena from Moreau Lake State Park in Upstate New York

Last we heard there was a huge search for the girl snatched from her bike in a large campground; lucky for Ms Sena she seems to have been kidnapped by a not-very-bright kidnapper who was pretty easily detected and brought in. Anyone who watches the police procedurals knows he should have worn gloves when handling a ransom note he stuffed into the family mailbox in the wee hours.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Oct 23 - 11:52 PM

Here's an interesting reversal of fortune:

A California judge has quashed one of Sonos's legal victories against Google – and the $32.5 million royalty payout that came along with it – declaring Sonos's patents at the heart of the matter were the unenforceable work of a "pretender" attempting to "punish an innovator … by delay and sleight of hand."

Judge William Alsup's order [PDF] invalidating the two patents at issue vacates a jury verdict from May of this year. The jury had found Google had infringed one of the patents, which concerned managing groups of smart speakers in a multi-room space.

Essentially, in this particular case, Sonos said the ability to group together Google Nest and Home smart speakers in your house or apartment – specifically, allowing gear to belong to more than one speaker group – infringed its intellectual property, and it demanded royalties. Sonos is also known for its multi-room speaker kit.

Unfortunately for Sonos, Alsup, a federal district judge in San Francisco, concluded after some investigation by himself that the two patents – 10,848,885 and 10,469,966 – in question were unenforceable based on a doctrine known as "prosecution laches." The rarely used laches defense is applicable when there is an unreasonable and unexplained delay in patent prosecution despite opportunities to do so earlier.

The patents in suit stem from an application made way back in 2006, Alsup explained, "but [Sonos] did not file the applications for these patents and present the asserted claims for examination until 2019." Sonos linking its 2019 patents (used to challenge Google in court) to that earlier 2006 application was spurious, the judge concluded, and was done only to claim a prior date before Google's allegedly infringing products came to market in 2015.

Summing it up:

Sonos was trying to punish Google retroactively by reaching into the past and connecting patent filings made over a decade apart.

"This was not a case of an inventor leading the industry to something new. This was a case of the industry leading with something new and, only then, an inventor coming out of the woodwork to say that he had come up with the idea first – wringing fresh claims to read on a competitor's products from an ancient application," Alsup lamented.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 01:36 PM

We had about 80% of the eclipse here, it was eerily dim outside for a while and lovely crescent shadows on the front path under the baldcypress.

In 2017 we had a total eclipse pass over North Texas and it was quite an event on a nice day so those of us on campus got out and looked at all of the ways crescent shapes could appear as sunlight shone through all sorts of natural and manmade orifices.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

It does look good for Poland. A light spot considering so much gloom in other areas.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 11:27 AM

Mrrzy, it also means less red meat to chum the news cycle waters. Now if Britney Spears had just decided to not add to her 15 minutes of fame with a book and kept to singing, the news cycle wouldn't be so odd this weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 02:04 PM

The EU and the US have immediately condemned Hamas and sided with Israel. That's disgusting. I don't like what Hamas are doing but I'm not going to forget the dreadful things visited on the Palestinians over the last few decades, and, more specifically and relevantly in this instance, to Gaza, which get a free pass from Israel's chief ally. Two and a quarter million civilians blockaded into a stinking ghetto, deprived of proper medical care and even of decent drinking water by the Israeli regime. It's new news and it's bloody bad news. Sickening.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

Enjoy your annular eclipse, yanks. I don't know exactly where any of youse live so I don't know who if anyone will get the full view. Someone in Texas, huh!

We had a total eclipse in Cornwall on August 11 1999 just after 11 am. Here in Bude the coverage of the sun was 99%, so we drove to Sharp Tor on Bodmin Moor (half an hour away) where we had to hike to the top. The cloud miraculously parted for a few minutes and we were just about the only people in the country to see it from the ground. The shadow rushing towards us across the countryside was scary and stunning, black as night and very chilly for a few minutes, and we saw Baily's beads, the diamond ring and the corona.

Another time in the spring of 2015 I was in hospital when there was a partial eclipse with most of the sun covered. It didn't go dark but it was strangely dull despite the clear blue sky. I made a makeshift pinhole camera out of cardboard with a safety pin, and had all the beautiful nurses in the ward crowding round me to see it . Ah, science can be so rewarding! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 01:23 PM

On the whole, the news from Poland looks good.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 03:53 PM

I don't know where else to note the developments in Poland.
The parliamentary election today bears upon
Poland's relationship with Ukraine,
and indirectly on its longstanding position against Russia.

Where would Lech Walesa stand if he were still alive, I wonder?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 06:27 PM

Yes, the Poland parliamentary election
shows a turn from right towards center.
A big deal when you are part of the EU,
and a big relief for the other nations
as well as Poland's more moderate citizens.

After what happened in Central Europe
before the last world war,
it is to be hoped that Poland will stay moderate now.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Oct 23 - 09:36 AM

!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 08:38 PM

We have a Speaker!

Pourvu que ça dure, as maman Létitia said (avec son accent corse) about her son Napoleon.

I am reminded of Speaker-to-Animals, the not-so-docile Kzin.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Nov 23 - 10:12 PM

Bankman fries?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 23 - 02:49 PM

I recently learned about tree kangaroos. Yep they live up in the trees.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Nov 23 - 07:11 AM

He won't be fried, but he's going to the cooler.

Who could buy his magic beans and not expect they were fake?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Nov 23 - 12:38 PM

Iceland declared a state of emergency regarding an impending volcanic eruption.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 05:37 PM

Orphaned eastern grey kangaroo joey fitted with prosthetic after losing part of tail awww, so cute! so clever - bloke who makes prosthetic limbs for people has a go making one for a roo cos it can't balance & hop about properly.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Oct 23 - 06:18 PM

wikipedia on tree kangaroos

video

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Nov 23 - 05:56 PM

Australia's fashion waste is a growing problem, but these scientists say they have an answer It looks and feels like children's playdough, but this colourful clay being made in a lab at Deakin University in Geelong, is actually old clothing.
For the past five years, scientists at the university's Institute for Frontier Materials have been trialling different methods to figure out the best way to recycle Australia's growing textile waste.
Now, they think they've found a way.
"What we've discovered is that we can take waste textiles and grind them up into really fine particles, which we can then use as a pigment to re-dye new textiles," Emma Prime, Deakin University's strategic research manager, said. (read on)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 Nov 23 - 04:27 PM

How a Melbourne recycling program is using old hotel soap to solve a global health problem ... A decade after Soap Aid's inception, boxes of used soap from 250 hotels across Australia and New Zealand come to a warehouse in Melbourne's south.

Some soap is yellow-brown, cracked, and filthy. Others are pristine and in their original wrappings.

Phase one includes manually and visually checking, and sorting what is not salvageable.

The rest is checked by a metal detector and scraped clean by hand.

"I check up to 200 kilograms a day," shouts a worker proudly over the whirr of machinery.

Then, soap that is deemed to be reusable is dumped into a machine for a multi-phase process to treat, smash, strain, and then re-mould the soap ...

Mr Matulick said Soap Aid supplied 2.9 million bars of soap to communities in need across the world, including remote and regional Indigenous communities in Australia ...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Nov 23 - 04:08 PM

This was a rather strange event yesterday, when a Bentley (!) sped up, hit a barrier and went airborne. It crashed into a booth and exploded on the bridge between Niagara Falls, NY and Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Fiery Bentley crash that killed two at US-Canada border likely not terrorism, says FBI
Rainbow Bridge was closed on one of year’s busiest days after vehicle reportedly en route to Kiss concert exploded on Wednesday

“More information could arise but, based on the preliminary investigation, no sign of terrorist involvement in the horrific explosion that occurred here in western New York,” the New York governor, Kathy Hochul, told reporters on Wednesday.

She added the car was “incinerated” in the crash.

The mayor of Niagara Falls on the Ontario side of the border told CBC News the community was on a “real emotional rollercoaster” amid the uncertainty of information reported by media outlets. “People live on one side and work on the other,” Jim Diodati said. “We just thought, you gotta be kidding.”

The Ontario premier, Doug Ford, said provincial police were “actively engaged” in the investigation.

Due to the scope and complexity of the crash, police anticipate that the investigation will take “some time” to complete. The border crossing is not expected to open until at least Friday.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 23 - 07:26 AM

More news you can't use; A 1,500 sq. mile iceberg is now sailing the open ocean at 3 miles a day.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Nov 23 - 07:44 PM

Word of the year is Authentic

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Nov 23 - 07:59 AM

The couple in the Bently were extremely drunk when they returned from a Casino and drove 80mph when they hit an inclined concrete barrier that separated lanes at the 'toll booth' sending them up up and over an 8 foot fence nose-diving into the booths.

I am considering using a very old marine salvage law that would allow me to claim the 1,500 sq. mile ice berg as floating real estate. The only problem is I would have to go there. A beaver plane with skis should do the trick.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 28 Nov 23 - 12:43 PM

.... can't .... resist ....

> Word of the year is Authentic

Are you sure that isn't fake news, Mrrzy :-) ?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 23 - 08:42 AM

It is true but I suspect not to be confused with the most used or googled word.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 08:49 AM

Off-topic, I know, but
Henry Kissinger died yesterday.
Takes me back to Watergate . . .

---

So off-topic it was moved over here. ---mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 09:26 AM

Cambodia. Vietnam. Pinochet. Nobel peace prize. Spot the incongruity.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 11:48 AM

5 million Americans have a warrant out for their arrest.
31 States have Insurance companies backing out of claims related to climate change.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 12:25 PM

I was going to put Kissinger here, too. Wow.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 01:37 PM

I heard once (corrections invited) that Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize was the reason Tom Lehrer gave up performing, on the grounds that satire was no longer possible.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 04:10 PM

Queensland grazier makes sign to redirect lost travellers following Google Maps ... TRUST ME NOT GOOGLE - the place they want is 17.5km (11 miles) away!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 23 - 07:09 AM

Tom Lehrer's National Brotherhood Week, among other songs, can not be more perfect. As such, singing the truth probably attracted the bile of powers that be which can be quite punitive if not fatal. Remember the era of Tom.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 23 - 07:18 AM

Why did Tom Lehrer really stop performing?
Most likely even though Lehrer was "a hero of the anti-nuclear, civil rights left" and covered its political issues in many of his songs and, even though he shared the New Left's opposition to the Vietnam War, and advocated for civil rights, he disliked the aesthetics of the counterculture of the 1960s and stopped performing, The hippy-dippy counter-culture was not his crowd.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 23 - 07:32 AM

Besides, teaching at Harvard is a helluva Plan B.

It turns out that only one woman in Israel's Intelligence Department warned of the Hamas attack for a year but was ignored by all the men who called her 'imaginative'.

Sounds familiar.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 23 - 05:45 AM

Purdue Pharma is litigating a bankruptcy settlement regarding the creation of the opioid crisis.

Its like 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lbs Sackler.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Dec 23 - 03:12 PM

Ok ok... Go googlenews biarritz chef. I can't even.

Oh, ok. Michelin-starred chef leaves Biarritz restaurant after an "incident" involving nudity, bondage, fruit, veg, and orifices.

The search brings up all the funny headlines, though...

Vraiment, la vie est intéressante partout.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jan 24 - 02:23 PM

Harvard prez out

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Jan 24 - 06:24 PM

It sounds like a proofreader or editor needs to step up regarding the charges of plagiarism for that Harvard professor - apparently some of the criticism of remarks posted "without quotes" was when

they were delivered in blockquotes, which in scholarly publications means it is a quote and you never use quotes on it (this being a blockquote that actually isn't quoting anything, just here for mechanical reasons)

but the block might not show up with the way they're searching, or they don't know what they're looking at.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jan 24 - 01:03 PM

Indeed. I read that too...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jan 24 - 03:39 PM

Throw the APA or MLA or Turabian book at the critics - let them understand what they're looking it. They'll back off with their tails between their legs instead of trying to get the rules about "over forty words must be placed in a blockquote."

Meanwhile, the Trump supporters panting over pending lists of Epstein's cronies seem to have instead encountered his name dropping habits that are being debunked by the people themselves or their representatives. They cast a wide net trying to snag people they can use to bring down other people and it seems to just muddy the waters more.

Jeffrey Epstein boasted of spurious celebrity connections, documents show
Court document released Wednesday confirmed some celebrity connections but also showed late sex offender’s flimsy braggadocio

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jan 24 - 02:46 PM

NRA prez is out

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Jan 24 - 06:50 PM

Not exactly new news, but today's New York Times had a fascinating feature article about
a community across the township line from Austin, Texas,
where tiny houses are being utilized
to help the chronically homeless.
It's a long article with lots of photographs.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Jan 24 - 06:54 PM

Boston has had an interesting six months or so, sports-wise.
First their soccer team, the New England Revolution
(think Robert Kraft, owner),
had their coach, Bruce Arena, resign ignominiously.

Today, Bill Belichek, coach for the New England Patriots,
is leaving his post after 24 years
(Robert Kraft, owner, again).

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 24 - 05:02 PM

Africa's Cup > US football. And in my home country!

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Jan 24 - 05:39 PM

meanwhile in the Land of Oz - Egg producer Fabian Fabbro discovers round egg, first in more than a million eggs collected ... But looks can be deceiving, and it turned out the egg was not quite perfectly round. "Jodie, my partner, put it on the vernier calipers and it was a couple of millimetres out of being geometrically perfect," Mr Fabbro said ...

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 24 - 06:59 PM

Athur C. Clarke's and Gene Roddenberry's ashes won't make it to the moon.

I am, personally, glad. No corpse powder, no chindis.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 24 - 08:00 AM

Alabama has a brand new way to execute people via a mask that infuses pure nitrogen into the prisoner. While N alone is known to be fatal the length of time to suffocate is unknown. The prisoner they will try it on already survived a 3-hour lethal injection attempt because of the prison authority's incompetence.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 24 - 11:48 PM

I heard a story about that - it is the most bizarre, cruel thing in the world, these states racing to execute prisoners.

In other news, a friend sent this piece, it sounds rather like a Chinese propaganda video, but it is interesting. I can't exactly figure out where this desert reclamation project is (looking on Google Earth). https://youtu.be/zqkok2p-Kw8. Apparently in the Maowusu Desert desert, also called the Mu Us Desert. She has apparently turned 42,200 square kilometers into more of a forest and farmland.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Thompson
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 02:49 AM

The map of countries with countries with legal execution by the state is embarrassing if you're living in one of them; the Devil loves good company; by their friends shall you know them…

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Thompson
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 09:54 AM

Fabulous, world-cheering, wonderful news: in Cameroon they're starting the first ever vaccination drive against malaria, a disease that kills 600,000 people a year in Africa, 80% of them children.
This is a world-changing vaccine, comparable to the effect of vaccination and antibiotics against tuberculosis in the 20th century. This, spreading across the continent, could be the first step to prosperity in Africa. God bless its makers.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 06:49 PM

An estimated 80% of the world’s population have a caffeinated product daily. In Peru or Asian and African countries, there are different stimulants that are more or less legal.

Both the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) define a safe caffeine intake as up to 400 mg per day, 200 mg per single dose, or 1.4 mg per pound (3 mg per kg) of body weight.

Due to its stimulating effects, caffeine has been linked to health benefits like enhanced alertness, improved athletic performance, elevated mood, and increased metabolism. I am clearly over caffeinated by these standards. Evidenced by my posting activity and eclectic interests I should probably have half the coffee I make.

Coffee and tea both contain caffeine. A standard 8-ounce cup of coffee contains about 95 milligrams of caffeine, while a cup of black tea has about 50 milligrams, and green tea has about 30 milligrams. That means coffee has twice as much caffeine as the same amount of black tea, and over three times the amount of caffeine as green tea.

“While tea also contains caffeine and has been shown to improve cognitive function and alertness, the addition of theanine, an amino acid, gives tea the added benefit of reducing stress”. If you’re about to embark on a major project or need a laser level of focus, black or green tea may be your ideal go-to beverage with no caffeine trembles and reduced stress might help you make it to the project finish line.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Jan 24 - 02:44 PM

Tasmania's 'piano man' Kelvin Smith says it's time to retire his instrument
It started with a vision — to get back into playing piano, and to do it in the most beautiful locations possible.
More than four years on, it has given musician and labourer Kelvin Smith more incredible experiences than he expected.
His piano has been dropped by helicopter on the Gordon Dam wall and has hung from a crane on Hobart's waterfront.
"But even the simplest of locations, just wheeling it out into the backyard, the local park, the local beach … just having a piano outdoors, there's something beautiful about that," Mr Smith said (read on & admire the pics!)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jan 24 - 10:12 PM

What a beautiful piano!

Next he should take up the harmonica; he'll be able to visit a lot more places more easily! :)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 04:13 PM

I hope he hasn't spent his retirement savings on booking helicopters etc. to move that beautiful piano to exotic locations.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Feb 24 - 05:25 PM

Hungary either shat or got off the pot

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 24 - 05:33 AM

Today is Groundhog Day! Along with every day hereafter regarding record high temps worldwide and demented conspiracy right-wing politics.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 24 - 07:58 AM

For the first time in 200 years the 17 year cicadas will emerge at the same time as the 13 year cicadas in my area. No one knows if interbreeding will occur and what the results could be. The hungry wildlife will splurge on the easy meal of cicadas since cicadas have no defense and are quite nutritious.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Feb 24 - 11:32 PM

3 million smart toothbrushes were just used in a DDoS attack. Really

It sounds more like science fiction than reality, but Swiss newspaper Aargauer Zeitung reports that approximately three million smart toothbrushes were hijacked by hackers to launch a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. These innocuous bathroom gadgets -- transformed into soldiers in a botnet army -- knocked out a Swiss company for several hours, costing millions of euros in damages.

Smart toothbrush? What on earth would you want one for?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 Feb 24 - 01:56 AM

so one doesn't need to clean one's own teeth????

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Feb 24 - 05:08 AM

I think smart toilet paper would be a much better idea.

I’ll get me coat… ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Feb 24 - 06:20 AM

*Agree*, SRS: "smart" toothbrushes are even worse than "smart" motorways, the main function of which is to demonstrate that any politician who calls a motorway "smart" is thicker than tarmac.

.... And how, pray, are all those programmable toothbrushes going to have their software updated to fix this security bug? via "smart" toothpaste tubes?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Feb 24 - 02:40 PM

The "smart" toothbrush story was a question on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me today. Generally I don't hear the odd news they pick up for some of their questions. (The panelist needed a hint.)

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 10:55 AM

Bizarre story this morning about a shooter at a Texas megachurch. Considering how difficult Osteen made it for people to seek shelter there during a recent hurricane, you'd think they'd have the doors pretty well hardened against crazies with guns. CNN.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 10:09 PM

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Colorado "star analyst" Missy Woods (in DNA analysis in criminal cases) has altered data.

The DNA Scandal That Threatens Thousands of Criminal Cases
Colorado investigators say star analyst Yvonne ‘Missy’ Woods altered data. Now people she helped send to prison want their convictions re-examined.

I'm pretty sure people will hit a paywall, but putting her name and state into a search engine will bring up more stories. Here's the introduction:

For nearly three decades, Yvonne “Missy” Woods was Colorado’s star forensic scientist, relied on by police and prosecutors to test DNA evidence in the state’s most baffling crimes.

Her work was considered the gold standard by colleagues and helped put away infamous murderers, including the “Colorado Hammer Killer.”

Then, in November, Woods abruptly resigned. The same day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation said it had discovered anomalies in her work during an internal review and was launching a criminal probe.

The unfolding scandal—potentially one of the largest in the history of forensic DNA testing, according to experts—is throwing Colorado’s criminal justice system into chaos. The state said it would need to review and retest approximately 3,000 DNA samples that Woods handled. Public defenders estimate thousands of cases could be affected.

Prosecutors are bracing for numerous legal challenges from people charged or convicted based on Woods’s findings. State lawmakers recently allocated nearly $7.5 million for possible retrials and case reviews, along with the retesting.

At the center of the storm is a mystery: Was Woods just sloppy, or has she been purposefully cutting corners for decades to put people behind bars?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 11:55 PM

Joe Biden was at the top of his game in the State of the Union address today. I'm proud that he is our President.
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php/?id=100063509179160

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Mar 24 - 12:36 AM

Yes, he was, and he got some zingers in "off script" - to the delight of the MSNBC commentators who rehashed the talk.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Mar 24 - 07:16 AM

John Oliver recounts exactly why Boeing can't build a safe 737 Max.
Sorry UK, Your country won't allow you to see John Oliver because the Royals objected to his views.
Boeing unfortunate merger with McDonald Douglass

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 05:53 AM

The whistleblower of MnDonel Douglass was found dead of a suspicious suicide weeks from his retirement yesterday.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 08:10 PM

500 pounds of pure snake: Massive python mating ball snagged in Florida

“For 10 years, we’ve been catching and putting them (Burmese pythons) down humanely," conservatory wildlife spokesperson Ian Bartoszek wrote in the post. "You can’t put them in zoos and send them back to Southeast Asia. Invasive species management doesn’t end with rainbows and kittens. These are remarkable creatures, here through no fault of their own. They are impressive animals, good at what they do.”

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 24 - 11:46 AM

thats a real clusterf**k.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 24 - 12:00 PM

Not all of our 1,000 US billionaires are bad but they all die.
The Einstein School of Medine will be tuition-free in perpetuity due to a gift from a billionaire.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 11:05 AM

Cargo shp took out only bridge over Baltimore harbor!



Vid

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 11:40 AM

Wow! It toppled like a child's toy. Is that real time?

I've listened to many of the Laura Lippman Tess Monaghan mysteries, almost all set in Baltimore ("Ballimer," as a friend used to say). I know that bridge has been mentioned because of all of her time spent rowing in the racing boats on the river (though I think she was always closer to town, not near this particular bridge).

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 12:50 PM

Its 'Salvage for Dali' for the ship that hit the bridge now under troubled waters.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 01:12 PM

> Is that real time?

The clips shown on the Beeb (and Sky News) didn't look like time-lapse to me. I haven't seen the earlier bits of the footage, but apparently it suggests there was a ship-wide power failure. I did see a burst of diesel-like smoke a few seconds before the impact, and a bigger one immediately after.

Comments here include that the bridge was built in the 1970s, but that the building regs about using disaster-deflecting concrete posts ("dolphins") weren't put in place until the 1980s, after a similar prang elsewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 02:55 PM

They're going to need some really big bollards to keep ships from hitting whatever replaces this bridge. And will the answer be to drive around or will a ferry system be put in place? Chances are there are still docks from years ago. After the World Trade Center came down in New York and the subways on that end of town were closed for a bit, didn't they run ferries from Brooklyn and New Jersey? That's a long time ago and I may be mis-remembering, but in older cities the artifacts of past transport sticks around for a while. Being able to ride across and get rapid transit on the other side would help avoid a lot of commuter traffic hitting the other bridges.

I'm curious how this will unfold, and expect Biden and Buttigieg to make a speech about it soon.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 11:28 PM

Ooh, blocking shipping too. Poor pothole guys.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 11:56 PM

When the ship crew realized they were in trouble the local pilot (who was on board the ship) immediately sent out a "Mayday" message to the bridge folks about being near the bridge, and the state police reacted literally instantly - within seconds they had the traffic onto the bridge stopped, and 30 seconds after the last vehicle was off of the decking the tanker hit the bridge.

The workers on the bridge were repairing potholes on the bridge; eight went into the water, two were rescued. The others are now presumed dead and the work shifted to recovery.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 11:39 AM

Why didn't they get those workers off?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 11:44 AM

They had about 50 seconds total in which to act. In the recording one of the officers says he is turning back to get the workers when it's already too late. Sad story, in which it sounds like everyone acted promptly and was trying to rescue everyone fast and just couldn't manage it.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 07:57 PM

Joe Lieberman died

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 09:06 PM

When the 100,000 ton ship full of trucks in containers hit the 10 ton pylon the ship won.
The inspections of Dali show two recent faulty propulsion findings.

There was a sky bridge in Italy that fell a much greater distance.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 10:38 AM

Also dead is Kahneman, of Tversky fame. Psychology great.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 11:53 AM

I've never heard of these two, apparently "reality TV stars," but it is the oddest story I've read in a long time. There are links to a Facebook page and other aspects of the story. Conjoined Twin Abby Hensel Got Married in a 2021 Wedding Ceremony

The Hensels are dicephalus conjoined twins, a rare form of partial twinning with two heads side by side on one torso. They share a bloodstream and all organs below the waist. Abby controls their right arm and leg, while Brittany controls the left.

So many questions. . .

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 04:53 PM

Oh, I read about that too. Remember Geek Love?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 06:27 PM

We have coyotes here although I have only seen one. A couple of ladies have been bitten by coyotes this week.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 10:11 PM

Musician creates GoFundMe page for ‘Banjo Boy’ from ‘Deliverance’ movie

Billy Redden, who played the teen character in the “Dueling Banjos” scene, is now retired in Rabun Gap with mounting medical bills.

A California bluegrass musician and fan of “Banjo Boy” Billy Redden from the Oscar-nominated movie “Deliverance” recently started a GoFundMe page to help the Georgia man, who is now 67 and suffering from medical problems.

Since March 4, the page has raised more than $16,000 from 500-plus donors.

At age 15, Redden was featured in the memorable “Dueling Banjos” scene in “Deliverance,” an action thriller in which four Atlanta men embark on what would become a deadly canoeing expedition in the north Georgia mountains.

Early in the film, the men stop at a gas station and spy Redden’s character Lonnie, who is on a nearby porch possessing a stony face, pale, flat eyes and a banjo. Bobby (Ned Beatty) looks at Lonnie and disparagingly says: “Talk about genetic deficiencies — isn’t that pitiful?”

But when Drew Ballinger, played by newcomer Ronny Cox, whips out a guitar and strums a chord, Redden quickly responds with a matching chord. They then joyfully trades riffs for several minutes. “You play a mean banjo!” Drew says with glee, then goes to shake Lonnie’s hand. But Lonnie doesn’t respond in kind, looking away instead.

Interesting, I follow Ronnie Cox on Facebook and he noticed a photo from filming the movie turning up in his feed, but didn't know why. I shared this article over there - perhaps he'll contribute.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Apr 24 - 08:32 PM

Nobody remembers Heek Love.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Apr 24 - 08:28 AM

That was Geek Love.

Ukraine "lowers" draft age from 25 to 27?

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Apr 24 - 11:13 AM

This news isn't about COVID and I won't be so crass as to post it in the Good News thread:

O.J. Simpson, former football star acquitted of murder, dies at 76

O.J. Simpson, the former football great who was accused of and ultimately acquitted of the brutal 1994 slayings of his ex-wife and her friend, has died, according to his family. He was 76.

"On April 10th, our father, Orenthal James Simpson, succumbed to his battle with cancer. He was surrounded by his children and grandchildren. During this time of transition, his family asks that you please respect their wishes for privacy and grace," a statement from his family said.

In May 2023, Simpson posted a video on X, then known as Twitter, revealing that he had recently "caught cancer" and "had to do the whole chemo thing." He added, "It looks like I beat it." Simpson didn't specify the nature of the cancer.

Then in February 2024, a Las Vegas television station reported that Simpson, then 76, was again undergoing treatment for an unspecified cancer. Simpson himself posted a video on X that day, denying rumors that he was in hospice care, though he did not otherwise confirm or deny reports that he was ill. Two days later in another video update on X, Simpson thanked those people he said had reached out to him, adding "My health is good. I mean, obviously I'm dealing with some issues but I think I'm just about over it."

There's more at the link, and some ABC news video.

Most of the links when I searched this story were to places like the Enquirer and NY Post. Such trash news sources that I'm sure they have more flagrant details.