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Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays

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leeneia 11 Aug 20 - 01:21 PM
Waddon Pete 11 Aug 20 - 02:42 AM
Joe Offer 10 Aug 20 - 10:05 PM
Noreen 10 Aug 20 - 02:33 PM
GUEST 10 Aug 20 - 02:21 PM
SPB-Cooperator 10 Aug 20 - 11:29 AM
GUEST,Gerry 04 Aug 20 - 03:51 AM
Joe Offer 03 Aug 20 - 09:00 PM
GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright 31 Jul 20 - 11:14 AM
GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright 31 Jul 20 - 11:13 AM
Rex 28 Jul 20 - 12:49 PM
Richard Mellish 28 Jul 20 - 11:52 AM
Noreen 28 Jul 20 - 05:45 AM
GUEST,Gerry 27 Jul 20 - 08:34 PM
Joe Offer 27 Jul 20 - 06:08 PM
Noreen 27 Jul 20 - 03:12 PM
Joe Offer 27 Jul 20 - 02:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 02:28 PM

Massive thanks to Joe and Noreen once again. A cracking night.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 01:21 PM

Once again, thank you to Joe and Noreen for the time and effort you give to make the Singaround possible. Four to five hours - that's a significant favor to the world.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 02:42 AM

.......and thank you Joe for hosting us. I’m sure it raises all our spirits!
All the best, Pate. (Private joke!!!)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 10:05 PM

Thank you all for coming. It was another lovely session.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 02:33 PM

Looks like Joe's busy. Hang on. I'll post it.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 02:21 PM

Where the hell is the link?
elizabethblock@netzero.net


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 11:29 AM

found it in an email I don;t use that much any more


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 Aug 20 - 03:51 AM

Joe, the lyrics you posted in chat for The Swaggies Have All Waltzed Matilda Away are fine, with just two corrections. In the last verse, "Coolies" should be "Koori". Koori is the name the Aboriginal people of New South Wales use to describe themselves. And the fellow who wrote the song was Alistair Hulett, with a double t at the end. Thanks again for putting the show on.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 09:00 PM

Another lovely gathering. Thank you all for coming.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 11:14 AM

Oh that is UK time by the way.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 11:13 AM

in a good attempt to keep musicians active their Sunday Social going and of course a bit of focus on the Twa Tams Bar in Perth Scotland, the owners Mad Ferret invite regulars to zap in a tune or two. They then select and stream on Sundays. It is a bit of fun and the quality of the music like that played at the Twa Tams is usually high.

So if you want a listen catch it live Sundays around 5.00pm or 6 pm if things go awry.

Or you can get it on Youtube somewhere by searching.

They sometimes have a 'raffle' the first to message once they start gets a prize.
One week it was a toilet roll!

The next it was a toilet seat (new of course)!

So you can tell that it is a bit of fun.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Rex
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 12:49 PM

Many thanks to Joe and the other hosts who set this up. Good to do something with my fellow 'Catters again. I sang the following popularly known as the Gol Darned Wheel. I present it here as written by James Barton Adams, The Cowboy and the Wheel in 1897. My version was truncated in deference to many more performers with songs to sing.

The Cowboy and the Wheel - James Barton Adams
From The Denver Evening Post: Thursday, April 29, 1897.

I kin take the toughest broncho in the wild an' wooly West,
An' kin back him an' kin ride him, let him do his level best;
I kin handle any critter ever wore a coat o' hair,
An' I've had a lively tussle with a 'tarnal grizzly bear.
I kin rope an' throw a long-horn o' the wildest Texas brand,
An' in Injun disagreements I kin play a leadin' hand;
But at last I met my master, an' I shorely had to squeal,
When the boys got me a-straddle of a Gol darned wheel.

It was at the Eagle Rancho on the Brazos whar' I fust
Run across the durn contrivance 'at upset me in the dust-
Natrally up an' throwed me, stood me on my cussed head,
"Trumped my ace in lightin' order," so old Ike, the foreman, said.
'Twas a tenderfoot 'at brought it; he was wheelin' all the way
From the sunrise end o' freedom out to San Francisco Bay.
An' he tied up at the rancho fur to git outside a meal,
Never thinkin' we would monkey with his Gol darned wheel.

Arizony Jim begun it, when he said to Jack McGill
There was fellers fo'ced the limit braggin' o' their ridin' skill,
An' he reckoned there's a puncher not a million miles away
As imagined as a rider he was tolerable gay.
Then he ventured the admission that same fellow as he meant
Was a purty handy critter, fur as ridin' bronchos went,
But he'd find he was a buckin' 'ginst a dif'rent sort o' deal
Ef he'd throw his leather leggin's 'crost that Gol darned wheel.

Sich a slur upon my talent made me hotter 'n a mink,
An' I told him I could back it fur amusement or fur chink;
That 'twas nothin' but a plaything fur the kids an' that he mout
Have his idees sort o' shattered if he'd trot the critter out.
Then they helt it till I mounted, an' I give the word to go,
An' the shove they give to start me wa'n't unreasonably slow.
But I never split a cuss-word, never made a bit o' squeal-
I was buildin' repatation on that Gol darned wheel.

The grade was mighty slopin' from the rancho to the creek,
An' we went a galleyflutin', like a crazy lightnin streak,
Went a whizzin' an' a dartin', fust to this side, then to that,
The contrivance sort o' wobblin' like the flyin' of a bat.
I kep' pullin' on the handles, but I couldn't check it up,
Yanked an' sawed an' jerked an' hollered, but the durn thing wouldn't stop.
An' a sort o' sneakin' idee through my brain begun to steal
That the devil helt a mortgage on that Gol darned wheel.

Holy Moses and the prophets, how we split the Texas air!
The breezes made whip crackers o' my somewhat lengthy hair.
An' I sort o' comprehended as, adown the hill we went,
There was bound to be a smash-up 'at I couldn't circumvent.
Them cow-punchers kep' a-yellin', "Stay right with her, Uncle Bill!"
"Hit 'er with the spurs, you sucker!" "Turn her muzzle up the hill!"
But I never made an answer; I jest let the cusses squeal-
My attention was all focussed on that Gol darned wheel.

I've a sort o' dim and hazy recollection o' the stop-
O' the airth a spinnin' round me, an' the stars all tangled up,
Then there come a intermission, which extended till I found
I was lyin' at the rancho, with the boys all gethered 'round.
An' a medico was sewin' on my skin whar' it was ripped,
An' ol' Arizony whispered, "Wal, ol' boy, I guess yer whipped,"
An' I told him I war' busted from sombrero cl'ar to heel-
Then he grinned an' said, "You'd orter 'see the Gol darned wheel."


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 11:52 AM

After last week's singaround I forgot to post the words of the song that I had sung, and I've now remembered. I had folk-processed it a little, but here it is as sung by Adam McNaughtan, whose song it is.

Old Annie Brown

Oh Glasgow is ruthless: our town can be cruel tae its own
And Glasgow's indifference left an old woman alone.
Six months she lay dead, before her body was found.
Fa' the Calton she came
And her name
It was Old Annie Brown.

She had stayed in the East End o' Glasgow for all of her days.
Looked after her folks when her brothers were wed and away.
And Annie was fifty when she saw her mother laid down.
There was never the chance o' a man
For Old Annie Brown

So she thought she would stay in the Calton that she knew sae well.
But the city was changing, faster than Annie could tell.
And the people who could moved out as the district came down.
There were few neighbours there
To care
About Old Annie Brown

Now she bought all her food in a big London Road superstore.
And the manager said "We get old folk in here by the score.
So how should I notice if one of them isn't around?
But record my regret
For the death
Of Old Annie Brown".

Dae you know the old woman that stays five or six doors away.
What would you do if you didn't see her today?
If you missed her all week would you, maybe, take a look round?
Don't wait till you miss her
Her name might be Old Annie Brown.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 05:45 AM

Some feedback from the most recent sing on Monday 27th July.

I made a note of 55 names who joined in, not all singing/performing as audience are welcome too.

People started arriving at 7.30pm UK time for a chat and sound checks as necessary. Singing started at 8pm (or so) and carried on until well after midnight when I had to go get some sleep. People are numbered on arrival and get an opportunity to sing in order, though we can be flexible for those who have to leave early etc. Joe tries to allow everyone to have two songs throughout the night, and latecomers will always have a chance to sing at least once.

It is amazing to see so many Mudcatters from around the world in all their different time zones, weather conditions and surroundings. I'm loving it!

It's never going to be ideal timing for everyone worldwide. The sing does however continue for over 4 hours- 8pm to well after midnight UK time- so there is a chance for those from many time zones to take part.
We have had regular participants from Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, New Zealand, UK and USA which is quite an achievement! And a Pole in Scotland :)
(OK, who have I forgotten this time?!)

So, feel free to pop in next Monday (or Tuesday morning in the antipodes), you will be very welcome!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - Doors open NOW!!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 27 Jul 20 - 08:34 PM

If all goes well, www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=62636#1013709 will link to

Lyr Add: WEE POT STOVE (Harry Robertson)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 10:52 PM

where Bob posted the lyrics to Wee Pot Stove as Robertson wrote and recorded them, and as I attempted to sing them at the singaround. They differ in a few places from the lyrics in the DT which, I think, follow Nic Jones' recording on Penguin Eggs.

Sorry I couldn't get the blue clicky to make a working link to a post on this site.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - Doors open NOW!!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 20 - 06:08 PM

Sung by Chris Lamb today.


Zoom Song
By Ruairidh Greig

Chorus
   Off we go it’s time for a Zoom,
   A poem, a song or even a tune.
   Off we go, it’s time for a Zoom,
   Meeting together but not in one room.

Coronavirus has split us asunder
But thanks to this program, it’s really a wonder
We can all get together, though many miles apart
And share our performances straight from the heart.

Make sure you’ve selected “Original Sound”
It’s quite beneficial, most people have found
And try to sit with some light on your face
Your grins and your grimaces might go to waste.

Always remember be nice to your host
If you forget, you will suffer the most
And if you don’t mute when you know that you should
You may well find you’ve been muted for good.

Please don’t make your intro too long,
It shouldn’t go on and on and on.
There’s plenty of others still waiting to sing
So don’t be a Zoom Hog, it isn’t the thing.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - Doors open NOW!!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 27 Jul 20 - 03:12 PM

And... they’re off!
29 of us in so far. Come and join in :)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-NOW!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 20 - 02:14 PM

Doors are open. Come in early for cocktails and conversation.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jul 20 - 07:52 PM

Email coming soon, but I've seen no volunteers to host Thursday.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Bearheart
Date: 22 Jul 20 - 06:00 PM

Still hoping someone else who feels motivated will figure out a Thursday Mudcat sing... I already host 2 other Zoom sessions on Monday and Wednesday nights and I am getting ready to start hosting a monthly ballad session for the local group that had been meeting in my living room prior to COVID. So I'm a bit maxxed out on putting something together.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:45 PM

If there are songs posted here, they will eventually be moved to a thread for that particular song. So, free to post lyrics here, and I'll move them in good time.
We don't currently have a way of correcting the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT), and maybe it's a good idea to leave it as Dick Greenhaus left it when he died.
I am gradually trying to ensure that there is a thread to cover every song or family of songs in the DT. The best place to look for correct lyrics is in the threads, not in the DT. If the lyrics in a thread have proper title, songwriter, and source information, you can be reasonably sure they're correct. If the title is allcaps and bold and large, that means it has been reviewed for correctness.

-Joe-

I will use this thread as the permanent notification thread for the singaround. As messages get out of date, I'll move them to the overflow thread or to song threads.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 09:46 AM

Keep letting Joe know what the corrections should be and thanks!

There is never going to be one place with all of the lyrics, it is a process, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 08:36 AM

SRS, I've been posting to Mudcat for at least 15 years now, as a guest. I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member. I know the Lawson poem is in the DT, but there are mistakes. The other day, I posted a list of the bigger mistakes to the DT corrections thread.

Mudcat is always the first place I go to find lyrics, but then I check them against recordings and other sources if I can.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:59 AM

Gerry, I also found the thread discussing Tumba-bloody-rumba and posted a link back to your post here, but putting the lyrics there would be helpful.

For newcomers to Mudcat, we have the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" for keywords and song titles. Use as few words as you think will bring up results and if it doesn't work the first time Max added a supersearch that hoovers up stuff all over Mudcat and the Internet.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:49 AM

Gerry and all who are just discovering Mudcat: You need to join (write to Joe@Mudcat.org). Guests are welcome to search and use the site, but membership does offer a few extra perks. And by all means, poke around and find the lyrics we already have here. It'll save you a little time reposting them. For example, Gerry, Lawson's poem Do You Think I Do Not Know is an example already in the DT. You are liable to find lyrics there you want to start using!

Good to see all of the new names and faces yesterday.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:31 AM

SPB, the reference to Gordon in the 4th stanza is, indeed, to the poet Adam Lindsay Gordon, but the interpretation I've heard is that the poem has more to do with Lawson's relationship with Hannah Thorburn. She died just six weeks before Lawson & his wife, Bertha, arrived back in Australia from two years in England.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:26 AM

SOng/Parody lesson 101 - If you are going to perform what you have written, make sure that the tune is within your vocal range (as I learned out last night!!!!).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:18 AM

Is Lawson alluding to Adam Lindsay Gordon's romance with Jane Bridges throughout the poem?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Monique
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:23 AM

I posted the song I sang yesterday on the French folk songs thread with translation and notes.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 08:31 PM

Y'all still there?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 08:30 PM

Here are the lyrics I sang for Tumba-bloody-rumba.

TUMBA-BLOODY-RUMBA

He looked for work at muster-time, we tried him as a rider,
We tried him as the rouseabout and as the cook’s off-sider.
He said he'd sailed the seven seas, he’d been up in Alaska,
He’d been in every western state from Texas to Nebraska.

Chorus (repeat after each stanza):
He said he’d shorn a sheep or two and cut a bit of lumber,
And waged war on the kangaroos at Tumba-bloody-rumba.

We tried him as a shearer, we tried him as a stacker,
We tried him digging rabbits out. He wasn’t worth a cracker.
He had a shop in Singapore, he owned a pearling lugger,
He was a champ at baccarat, Australian Rules and rugger.

He never showed his aptitude at jobs he was allotted,
But showed his skill upon the booze, and cigarettes he blotted.
He said he’d climbed the Matterhorn, he’d been a union leader,
And years ago in Adelaide he was a pigeon breeder.

We tried him digging fencing posts, we tried to find his caper,
Until that happy pay-day when he got his piece of paper.
I wonder what he's up to now, perhaps back on the lumber,
Or shooting kanga-bloody-roos at Tumba-bloody-rumba.

Authorship in dispute, set to music by Warren Fahey. If you want the tune, there's a recording by Warren on Youtube.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 08:22 PM

Here are the lyrics I used for Do Youi Think That I Do Not Know.

Do you think that I do not know
Henry Lawson

They say that I never have written of love, as a writer of songs should do
They say that I never could touch the strings with a touch that is firm and true
They say I know nothing of women and men in the fields where Love's roses grow
I must write, they say, with a halting pen do you think that I do not know?

My love-burst came, like an English Spring, in days when our hair was brown
And the hem of her skirt was a sacred thing and her hair was an angel's crown
The shock when another man touched her arm, where the dancers sat in a row
The hope, the despair, and the false alarm do you think that I do not know

By the arbour lights on the western farms, you remember the question put
While you held her warm in your quivering arms and you trembled from head to foot
The electric shock from her finger-tips, and the murmuring answer low
The soft, shy yielding of warm red lips do you think that I do not know

She was buried at Brighton, where Gordon sleeps, when I was a world away
And the sad old garden its secret keeps, for nobody knows to-day
She left a message for me to read, where the wild wide oceans flow
Do you know how the heart of a man can bleed do you think that I do not know

I stood by the grave where the dead girl lies, when the sunlit scenes were fair
Neath white clouds high in the autumn skies, and I answered the message there
But the haunting words of the dead to me shall go wherever I go
She lives in the Marriage that Might Have Been do you think that I do not know

I used a tune by Chris Kempster. Another well-known musical setting is by Slim Dusty. Best recording, for my money, was by Declan Affley.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 12:49 PM

Looks like I can make it about one week in three, which means not this week I'm afraid.

Have fun everyone!

Robin


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Bearheart
Date: 19 Jul 20 - 10:16 PM

Thanks, Joe. I got the invite. I need to figure out whether to join Monday or not... The other group is pretty small and intimate still -- only about 15 people most times, and I'm just getting to know folks and be comfortable with them. I'm pretty shy by nature, and it takes an effort to sing in front of strangers. But you may see me one of these days.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Bearheart
Date: 18 Jul 20 - 05:39 PM

So I am just seeing this. not on Mudcat as much as I used to be.

Did the Thursday session idea go nowhere? A much better time for me. As it happens, my friend Debra Chesman here in the Finger Lakes/Central New York had a similar idea and we are doing a trans-Atlantic song circle at exactly the same time.

Plus I have another Zoom meeting following that one.

But I would love to hear the voices of people whose posts I've been reading, all these years.

Bekki


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 02:54 AM

Isn't that a great idea?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Mysha
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 09:01 AM

Folk Song And Music Hall


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 05:17 AM

Thanks Vikki!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 08:44 PM

Oops, forgot to turn the link into a blue clicky...

FOLK SONG AND MUSIC HALL: The intersection of folk and music hall...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 08:26 PM

Here's the link I mentioned last night:

FOLK SONG AND MUSIC HALL
The intersection of folk and music hall, the songs and social history
http://folksongandmusichall.com/

It's the creation of John Baxter:

"This site features a collection of Songs sung in the Music Halls, the stories of those songs and the people who sang them, and how these songs relate to traditional music of the British Isles. I hope it will encourage people to sing the songs, so where possible I include videos and links to sheet music .

"It also has my blog about the social history of Music Hall. I hope to comment on various ways in which it relates to the social history of folksong. I am mostly bringing together information found by others – though I occasionally delve in Victorian newspapers..."

Really been enjoying these sessions; great songs, great singing! Thanks again to Joe, Noreen and Casey.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 06:04 AM

Joe said
> Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing)

Here's the one that I sang last night, North Sea Oil

Down by the North Sea shore, a while before now,
While seeking me fortune and rambling around,
I met a little mermaid, very pretty as I recall
And I asked this fond creature where I might find oil.

"Well I know a little oil well not very far from here
And I've been watching over it with the tenderest care
And no-one's been near there since I was a child
And I think you'd find profit to drill there a while."

So I set up my rig and I made a fine stand,
And this sweet little creature gave me a helping hand,
Saying "Daddy, oh Daddy, it makes my blood boil
When you set up your rig to go boring for oil."

Well I kissed this little creature ten thousand times o'er
As we toiled there together all on the sea shore,
With a pillow under her fish-tail, for fear it should soil.
I spat on me auger and went boring for oil.

Well I hadn't been drilling three minutes or four.
At a few inches depth, boys, the gusher did pour.
And she wriggled and giggled, and she said with a smile
"Oh bear down on that auger, for I think you've struck oil."

But it was just a few days after, a thought came in me head,
For the end of that auger was rusty and red.
And I took it to the doctor, and he said with a smile
"I think you struck shale when boring for oil."

I got it from my own recording of Bert at Dingle's Folk Club in London on 4th April 1973.

I have deliberately not checked the above words against the recording, so feel free to spot any folk-processing that I may have done over the years.

In his introduction he refers to earlier versions, so maybe I was wrong in saying that this is one that was entirely his own work rather than his improved version of an existing song, but I suspect that in this form it is mostly his work.

Then again, maybe someone would like to go looking for the earlier versions.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - NOW!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 08:22 PM

Joe,

RThanks for another great evening. I was surprised that you had a copy of Killie's book. I got my copy on preorder so I got my autographyed copy more or less on the day it was published.

I've known Michael Kilgariff for years, from his time as Chairman at the Player's Theatre, and he took rehearsal one night for the music hall company I used to belong to.

To say that he is above average height is an understatement. 6'5".

He has had numerous TV appearances - perhaps most famousd as the Cyber Controller in Doctor Who (Patrick Troughton and Coloin Baker eras).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - NOW!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:09 PM

Sing for me too! Hear you all next week...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Noreen
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 06:06 AM

I’m thoroughly enjoying it too Joe, Seeing and hearing friends old and new from all over the world is just amazing!
And being Mudcat, it’s not just “thanks for your song and on to the next “, there’s room for discussion about the song and its history, which is what I love.

And last week Max popped in to see what was going on... I hope you’ll be able to stay long enough to give us a song next time Max :)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:19 AM

This thread is getting pretty long, but I think I'd like to preserve it as the go-to place for the singaround.
Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing), but I'll probably move most messages over two weeks old to our overflow thread (click).

I'm having the best time at this Monday singaround. My big black dog Madeleine loves it, too, and she often comes into my office to listen while we're singing.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 11:09 PM

Thanks to Mrrzy and Tattie Bogle for the kind words.

SPB-Cooperator, your song sounds like fun!

It's really been fabulous getting to see and hear the people behind the online names, and hear some gorgeous singing and wonderful songs.
Echoing the thanks to Joe, Noreen and Casey for doing the nuts and bolts that make this possible!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 08:10 PM

Yeah, we used to do this in the 1990s with primitive technology. Now it's so easy. I think we need to keep this going forever.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 07:55 PM

I am all for not stopping these!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 06:57 PM

Leeneia: the phone numbers are auto-generated by the Zoom website when they produce the invitation, so the host only has to copy the invite! (Not to belittle anything that Joe has done in setting up these sessions as they are great!)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 09:10 AM

Any plans to make this permanant after lockdowns have finished?


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