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Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays

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Joe Offer 27 Oct 20 - 12:45 AM
Mrrzy 26 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM
Tattie Bogle 26 Oct 20 - 11:57 AM
Joe_F 26 Oct 20 - 11:01 AM
Joe Offer 25 Oct 20 - 11:59 PM
GUEST 25 Oct 20 - 10:25 PM
Joe Offer 25 Oct 20 - 12:23 AM
leeneia 22 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM
Joe Offer 21 Oct 20 - 07:05 PM
Tattie Bogle 21 Oct 20 - 06:45 PM
Waddon Pete 21 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM
pattyClink 21 Oct 20 - 04:06 PM
Sarah the flute 21 Oct 20 - 02:46 PM
leeneia 21 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM
Tim Chesterton 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM
Noreen 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM
Noreen 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM
Noreen 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM
Joe Offer 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM
Richard Mellish 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM
GerryM 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM
Joe Offer 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM
Felipa 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Oct 20 - 12:45 AM

A very spooky day of songs. Lots of good singing, some of it moderately scary. My house generator lasted all day on a 6-gallon tank of gas, and the mains power finally came on as our singaround was ending.
One woman from the San Francisco Bay area sang a "Broken Token" song. When she introduced the song, she said it was written by Vikki Appleton Fielden. I started to introduce Vikki to the singer, but Vikki shushed me. So, we all held our tongues while the singer sang Vikki's song - and we all got a good laugh out of it afterwards. The woman sang very well, and Vikki was thrilled to have somebody sing her song.
Thank you all for a wonderful gathering.
Back to the usual times for next week's gathering. This daylight savings discrepancy lasts only one week, and then the US and UK are back in sync again.

-Joe-

We missed you, Casey. Hope the electric power is back on at your wilderness home. Thanks to Noreen for doing a great job of hosting, and to Dawn for assisting.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM

Hi y'all dentist today so aching jaws. Might come listen, though. Say Hi to Robert Rodriquez and everyone else though!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:57 AM

I was on it, but seem to have slipped off it a while back. I usually get the link from the Mudcat Facebook page.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:01 AM

It is now 11 am Monday, and I likewise have received no notification of the URL. Am I actually on the mailing list?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 11:59 PM

Sorry I missed you, Jim. You're on the list now and should have the email.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 10:25 PM

Joe - I had sent you an email about a week ago requesting info info on the Singaround. I did not get the email today tht you describe here. Can you send me the Zoom URL for tomorrow’s Singaround? Is that all I need to be able to play a song tomorrow, or do you pre-select the singers?

Jim Burrill
jburrill@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 12:23 AM

Hi, Everyone -

I hope you will be able to join us for Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on 26 Oct It will be at the usual 8 PM London time, but an hour later than usual in the rest of the world (1 PM Los Angeles, 4 PM New York) - due to the vagaries of the change from Daylight Savings Time. We'll be back in sync next week.

Could be interesting - Casey and I have been threatened with an electric power blackout, but Noreen and others have volunteered to fill in if we can't make it.

See you Monday.

I sent out the email just now. If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, joe@mudcat.org


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM

Thanks, Sarah. I'm glad you liked it.

I thought my voice sounded pretty bad, (it being ragweed season) but now I think that since we are right on top of our own voices, so to speak, we hear minor imperfections that listeners do not.

I encountered the same thing with a recorder once. I made a tape of myself, and I sounded better than I thought I did.

But I wish I had a clear, reliable voice like you, Schlomo and Noreen.
==============
As for the other matter, it's hard to believe that 80 or 90% of the group had an errand at the same time. And attention doesn't have to be avid; it's enough if a person moves a little once in a while. But that's over now. People were back for the last session.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 07:05 PM

It people are singing and having connection problems, I will sometimes switch off their video so the sound comes through better. This is not meant as an insult (usually ;-)

They should feel free to switch their video back on once they're finished singing.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 06:45 PM

The other thing is, that if people are having problems with their broadband connection, it helps to switch off the video and just use the audio, so don't take it personally if people are not all avidly watching: or they might be having their supper and don't want to be seen stuffing their faces...! I might bring my knitting next week, or do my ironing!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

Hear hear!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: pattyClink
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:06 PM

Oh, leeneia, don't despair and think people aren't interested in hearing the other singers. The session lasts 5 hours, and that's a very long time to sit in rapt attention with an encouraging look on one's face. I cut my video every now and then while I take a break for a snack or bathroom break or stretch, or just be 'at ease', and I'd rather mute my video and still hear the singer, than have the singer see me scratch myself or fork down some food.   I think you just had the bad luck to be in the spotlight when too many people were taking a break. We love hearing you!!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:46 PM

And it was a very lovely song you sang and well sung too on Monday!

I do try to stay live on Zoom unless it is absolutely necessary to switch off video because I think this is what you would do in a real folk club if you spent your evening there ....plus you never know what you might miss.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM

Once upon a time, my voice teacher gave me a tip about stage fright. She said there is bound to be at least one person in the audience who wishes you well and looks friendly. Focus on that person.

Now, the week before last, I was singing and looking for that person, and I realized to my dismay that most of the faces I saw were not people, but photographs. I suppose they were people who didn't want to listen to others, just to sing themselves. So they ambled off to walk the dog or balance their checkbook, leaving their lifeless picture in their place. Pfui.

Last Monday, I am happy to say, there were many more live people in place, and I felt better about singing my song. Keep up the good work, everybody.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM

Bit of shameless self-promotion here:

Thanks to those who were saying nice things about my own original tune for 'Cold Blow and the Rainy Night' at the singaround today.

If you like it, it's on my CD 'Folk Songs and Renovations.' You can get the single track here.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM

Thirty-four of us in here now. A great night is being had by all!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM

Ah no, that was not a puzzled response, it was meant to be a wry smile!

: )


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM

Well, I screwed that up, as Bev Praver gently told me. The discrepancy in time changes happens on Monday, October 26. And on THAT day, the Singaround will start at 1 PM Pacific Time and 4 PM Eastern, and 8 PM London time.

But this coming Monday is October 19, and it will be at the usual times.

Sorry for the confusion.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM

> Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Normally it's eight hours, but not in the brief period when one is on daylight saving and the other isn't.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM

Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM

Because we have a number of singers in the UK who come in late, I'm going to schedule the Singaround according to London time this coming Monday. So the Singaround will start as usual at 8 PM London time, but at 1 PM Los Angeles Time and 4 PM New York time.
I'll be sending out the email in a few minutes.
See you Monday.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM

Joe, Ireland follows Greenwich time, but in France etc. it is an hour different and if they have "summer time" ("daylight savings time" in US). There was talk of the E.U. doing away with seasonal time changes for member states in future.

re themes, I suggested having occasional theme nights,not weekly and that the theme would not be obligatory. I did enjoy the themed sessions at the virtual Getaway. There the theme was pretty much obligatory but in some cases very widely interpreted.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:46 PM

I just got an email from Pelagie, asking what time we'll be starting this coming Monday. The UK goes to standard time this Sunday, 25 October. I suppose the same applies to Ireland and the rest of the EU. Am I correct?

The US goes to standard time on Sunday, November 1.

The math confounds me here. This coming Monday, if we start the singaround at 8 PM London time (which is what I'm inclined to do), what time will it be in California?

-Joe, puzzled-




It appears from the converter below that on October 26, it will be 8 PM London time and 1 PM California time.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20201026T200000&p1=136&p2=4962


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:00 PM

Hi, Felipa

I go to another weekly singaround that has themes. It can be nice, bu I'm not inclined to require it for the Mudcat Singaround. I see singers often inspire each other and carry a theme along, and I think I prefer that sort of spontaneity.
Cheers!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 01:37 PM

This Monday will be my last in the folk 'wilderness' this time it will be me in transit arriving at Gatwick about 10:30 pm London time, then 2-3 hours to get home.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 06:40 PM

We had quite a lot of autumnal/seasonal/October songs on our local Zoom session tonight, and later this month will be Hallowe'en!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM

I suggest it would be nice to sometimes have a theme for the night. It wouldn't be obligatory; but if people are invited in advance to sing a song relating to a given topic, I expect many of the singers would oblige.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 07:40 PM

Oh and thanks for the filters! I had to re-download Zoom but now I can have a beret.
Oh, wait, I already do. Moustache, then!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 06:26 PM

I am not making it back but luvs! Next week, Oscar Brand returns.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 05:28 PM

Refresh... we're still going strong.
Great songs and singing.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 11:35 AM

Yes we are, chk yr messages I'm forwarding Joe's email.

Can't make it myself today, it's a travel day as Mondays often are.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 09:14 AM

Refresh - we are on today, right?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

We'll miss you, Gerry. The Getaway is wonderful, and so many of our regular Singaround singers found their way to the Getaway. Many are on the tech staff, or are leading workshops. I had so much fun leading the dogs workshop with Dawn Berg (she was the adult in the room).
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 11:58 AM

Hoping to go to the dogs with you later Joe. Just doing the last session at Virtual Tenterden Festival first but that finishes at 9.30pm so should be with you soon after!!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 05:09 AM

Well, there goes my social life for the week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 04:46 PM

I'm Zoom-attending the annual Getaway of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington this weekend, and I realize that a good half of our regular Mudcat Singaround singers are attending, too. Rather than conflict with the last day of the Getaway, we've decided to cancel Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround. See you next week, Monday, October 12.

You can join us at the Getaway. It's a wonderful gathering, and Mudcatters have been attending since 1999. Register here:


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 07:52 PM

Good luck and safe encounters in setting up any new gigs!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 06:07 PM

Will be in exile to landlocked Cz Republic from tomorrow. Hope, all being well, to be back on 26th October.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:28 PM

Many thanks to Joe Offer & rest of gang on tonight's show - very entertaining diversion away from all the doom, gloom & worst of all ennui!

See y'all next time!

Mr H


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:07 PM

We missed YOU, Mrrzy. You are a wonderful part of our community. And yes, it was a wonderful gathering.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:03 PM

What'd I miss?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 07:07 PM

Thanks for being hosts, Joe and Noreen. I enjoyed today's pleasant singaround. (September 28th.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: mg
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:58 PM

it is not clicking or letting me copy


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 11:04 AM

I may be late to the Singaround this week, roadtripping out for lunch. I can listen on the way back, though!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 10:10 PM

Yeah, Noreen, I thought I heard there was a Welsh melody used for "Miner's Lifeguard," but I can't find it. My memory sometimes gets scrambled.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 07:06 PM

Re: the Miners' Lifeguard Joe, those three versions (great stuff!) were of the same tune, as is this one sung by the Wilsons.
Apparently this song shares a melody with the traditional Appalachian song "Life's Railroad to Heaven."


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 11:21 AM

Invitations for Monday have been emailed. If you didn't get one and would like to be on our email list, contact me at joe@mudcat.org.

Hope to sing with you Monday!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 12:55 PM

Hi, Noreen - we missed you, but we muddled through. I think we had a total of 44 people yesterday.
Here's the seminal US recording of "Miner's Lifeguard," by Pete Seeger and the Almanac Singers:


Here's an English recording by Bob Fox and Benny Graham, which uses the same melody:

Here's a great choral performance by Brian Connick and Cor Meibion Onllwyn (Onllwyn Male Voice Choir):


Maybe I'm mistaken and maybe the US and UK use the same melody for this song.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 06:30 AM

Sorry I missed it Joe, I’d be interested in your tune to the miner’s lifeguard. Hope all went well in my absence!


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