Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-On Zoom Mondays!!

Subject: Mudcat online singaround?
From: GUEST,Chris Lamb
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 06:01 AM

Link posted here Mondays for the week's Mudcat Worldwide Song Circle.
Singing starts Mondays at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and early Tuesday morning in Sydney. Doors open half an hour earlier.

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Back in March (2020), on a thread that's now closed, Joe Offer said: "And I think it would be really nice if we could have a weekly Mudcat singaround online."
Was this suggestion taken up? It would be great to put a face and a voice to some of the regular Mudcatters and to hear them sing, on Zoom, perhaps. I'd love to hear Jim Carroll sing again, for example, as I haven't heard him or Pat McKenzie sing since Critics Group days.

The many singarounds that have sprung up since lockdown started have brought together some fine singers from across the seas and enabled us to hear those we would never have been able to listen to in normal times.
Can the Mudcat community respond to this opportunity?

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM

Now there's an idea!

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 02:06 PM

Go for it!

Regards

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 03:53 PM

That sounds good to me
Nothing much else on a Monday and 9pm start is good

Sarah

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 07:31 PM

I’m up for it too, 9pm Mondays is good for me, and Zoom works well.

Are you up for organising it Joe? ??

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 08:38 PM

Okey-dokey. I think we have a minyan. Well, it's supposed to be 10 adult, circumcised males, but we'll make do with what we've got.

Monday at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and 5 AM in Sydney.

I'll host. I'll post the link to the Zoom session here in this thread just one hour before we begin, and I'll open up half an hour early at 7:30 PM for cocktails and conversation. There will be a waiting room, and I reserve the right to reject people I don't recognize - so please use your Mudcat names. Sorry.

This should be fun!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM

When you enter Zoom, you will usually be give the opportunity to give the name you want to be known by for the session. If you have not used Zoom since June 1, you may be asked to update to the new, encrypted Version 5 of Zoom. It seems to be quite stable, so just OK the download and there you go - good reason to show up early, though.

I'm looking forward to this.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 12:35 AM

I will post the link in this thread Monday, an hour before the gathering. I will also send links by personal message Sunday, to members who post in this thread. If you've pasted anything above, you'll get a pm from me Sunday. Sorry, I can't send personal messages to Guests, so you'll have to look here Monday for the link.
I will change the meeting ID every week for security purposes.
I can't handle anything that comes in Monday, because I'm teaching a Class Mondays and have just half an hour free after the class.
Looking forward to seeing you Monday.
Joe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 02:45 PM

Yes that’s right Amergin, for security reasons the new link is only put up about an hour before the start each week, so less likely to attract gatecrashers.

I think it’s even better than the old HearMe (which I remember very fondly) because we can see each other too!
Joe Offer has of course gone another step further and often searches for and adds info and words for the song being sung, in the chat box in real time... which sets this Mudcat Singaround apart from all others I’ve been involved with.

Mudcat is once again in the vanguard of new ideas!
(I wonder whether the wonderful Max might join us one week?!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM

The link people have posted here gives the first-time user the opportunity to download the software even if they load it before or during the event.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:19 AM

This thread is getting pretty long, but I think I'd like to preserve it as the go-to place for the singaround.
Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing), but I'll probably move most messages over two weeks old to our overflow thread (click).

I'm having the best time at this Monday singaround. My big black dog Madeleine loves it, too, and she often comes into my office to listen while we're singing.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:45 PM

If there are songs posted here, they will eventually be moved to a thread for that particular song. So, free to post lyrics here, and I'll move them in good time.
We don't currently have a way of correcting the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT), and maybe it's a good idea to leave it as Dick Greenhaus left it when he died.
I am gradually trying to ensure that there is a thread to cover every song or family of songs in the DT. The best place to look for correct lyrics is in the threads, not in the DT. If the lyrics in a thread have proper title, songwriter, and source information, you can be reasonably sure they're correct. If the title is allcaps and bold and large, that means it has been reviewed for correctness.

-Joe-

I will use this thread as the permanent notification thread for the singaround. As messages get out of date, I'll move them to the overflow thread or to song threads.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 04:56 AM

I'm sorry I didn't join lately, I'm on vacation with friends so no singaround. We're glad we still can tour around though we have a curfew from 8pm to 6am. So see you all on Monday!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 12:15 PM

re Painted Veil, I believe the phrase w\s first used in a sonnet Lift Not The Painted Veil by Percy Bysshe Shelley. It was later used as a book title by Somerset Maugham, and more recently as a film title. Not sure where Iain heard / read it - I'll ask him!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 11:38 PM

Well, I kinda like the idea of random wisecracks....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: wendyg
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 12:38 PM

So how and what time does one join this thing?

wg

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: maeve
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:01 PM

From an earlier post by Joe Offer:
8 PM London time. That's noon here in California, and 3 PM in New York, and early Tuesday in Australia and New Zealand. I had no idea what time it starts in Israel (Shlomo says it's 10 PM), but we have singers from there, too.
Come join us! We open doors half an hour before the scheduled time, sing for about 5 hours, and then chat until people are done chatting. All in all, it's a wonderful time. Some people just listen - that's OK, too. Hope you can come.
If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, [e-mail]


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:54 PM

Happy New Year, Everyone!
Our next Mudcat Worldwide Singaround is Monday, January 4. It starts at 8 PM London time, 3 PM in New York, and noon in Los Angeles. People in the rest of the world are smart and can figure out the time for themselves, but I do know that we're on Tuesday morning in Australia and New Zealand.
Doors open for cocktails and conversation half an hour before, and we start singing on the hour. We sing for about 5 hours, giving everyone the chance to sing two songs.
Hope you can join us.
I emailed the invitation just now, and I'll post it here a couple of hours before the singaround. I change the link every week to try to avoid evil zoombombers.
-Joe-

Wendy, if the email address is correct on your Mudcat registration, you should be on the email list and should have received an email.

for people who didn't get an email, you can join the list by emailing [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 12:17 AM

Please send the link to join the Singaround. Thanks, Maureen [e-mail] Referred to me by the Seattle Folk Song Group

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 01:35 PM

Our Prime Minister is due to give a televised address at 8pm today where he is expected to announce a further lockdown, so I will have one ear on that.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:48 PM

Another lovely singaround. Thank you, everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 10:59 PM

Thanks, Moorley Man – will incorporate into my notes.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 06:16 PM

Gerry - I learnt my song from the late Monty Parkin as ‘Marks and Spencer’, but on reflection, perhaps it should be ‘Any Title Will Do’.......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 02:13 PM

Yeah, Joe got distracted. Plumbing emergency.
Fixed.

Doors are open. Y'all come.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!
From: pattyClink
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 03:04 PM

Went thru the 'join meeting' log in drill, and it still says "please wait for the host to start this meeting--start 12:00 pm Mudcat Worldwide Singaround.

Subject: ADD: Lullaby for a Whaler's Child/Sailor's Child
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 04:33 AM

Lois Shiner sang a lovely lullaby she wrote:

Hi Joe, re the song today, well, yesterday.
Here's the music, not chords, but notations of notes.
A la Rise Up Singing
Copied below, the first verse.
Lois Shiner

>    G       G G      A    G    G
> Hush    Lit-tle    Sai-lor Boy
>
>   G       G    G      A      G    G   
> Hush    Lit-tle    Wha-ler's Boy

> (hiC)C C    B    C   D   C A G    (All C's in this line are hi C)
> Don't cry for your Dad-dy at Sea
>
>   G    A      A#   A    F    E
> He's on - the seas sai-ling
>
> D    G       A    G    E    C    (Middle C)
> He's out - there a'   wha-ling
>
> E    G    A    G    F E    D    C   (Middle C)
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>
> Hush Little Sailor Boy
> Hush Little Whaler's Boy
> Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
> He's on the seas sailing
> He's out there a'whaling
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>


Lyrics only:

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on - the seas sailing
He's out - there a' whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on the seas sailing
He's out there a'whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 11:33 PM

Here's my list of songs and poems that were sung/recited, in order, at the Singaround on 11/12 January 2021. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here you go:

Here's to the State of Richard Nixon
Penny for the Ploughboys
Que Vous Etes Beau
Old King Cole
If (poem)
We Sing Hallelujah
Weeping in the Promised Land
Banana Republics
Lincoln Park Pirates
Month of January
The Shearer's Dream
The Lambton Worm
She was Very Fond of Dancing (The Calico Printer’s Clerk)
Lili Marlene (in Irish and German)
Johnny Macree (poem)
In and Around Nashville (aka Uncle Dave's Travels, Part 3)
Bring Us a Vaccine
Kissin' in the Dark
Poor Murdered Woman
Found My El Dorado in My Backyard
Remember Me
Until the Dark Time Ends
The Farm Auction
Gardening
The January June
Broken Heartland
I Ain't Nobody in Perticular
The Long Arms of Love
Ceres and Pluto and Eris
There is a Time
Power and the Glory
Reedy River
Lullaby for the Whaler's Child
Oh, Mary Don't You Weep
She's Someone's Grandmother
Nevada Jane
Jimmy Murphy
Wayfaring Stranger
Call to Song
The Dream Tree
Silver Whistle
A Stor Mo Chroi
Luckiest Sailor
Tom Paine's Bones
Let Me Down Easy
The Far Side Banks of Jordan
The Broken Token
Philadelphia Lawyer
Noah's Ark Shanty (aka A Long Time Ago, aka In Frisco Bay)
Garden Song
The Possum Song
Keep My Skillet Good and Greasy
Way Down in North Carolina
A Chat with Your Mother
Nobby Hall
Blank Space
The Charladies' Ball
The Demon Lover (aka The House Carpenter)
Mhairi Bhan
Rose Bay Ferry
Before They Close the Minstrel Show
Take a Chance
Lolly Too-dum
Windmills
Bonnie Wee Lassie (aka Bonnie Wee Window)
Why Does It Have To Be Me?
House of the Rising Damp
Night Visiting Song
The Knitting Song
Hobo's Lullaby

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 05:33 AM

Just one correction from me Gerry. "She was very fond of dancing" is properly titled, "The Calico Printer's Clerk".

I also thought I should thank you for your work in generating this list every week. It's appreciated.

Pete

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:49 AM

Thanks, Waddon Pete. I don't think I have editing privileges here, but I'm no less grateful for corrections.

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Editing privileges? That's a good idea. Gerry and Casey and Noreen now have editing privileges on this thread, and I thank all of them for their contribution to making this weekly singaround possible.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,SPB COPPERATOR on mobile
Date: 15 Feb 21 - 05:13 AM

Won't be able to be here tonight as my router has died and I have to wait for the new one to be delivered. See you all next week.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 11:26 AM

I added a link to the lyrics on the "Mudcat singaround songs not in English thread" list.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 06:23 PM

This thread seems to have lost the last couple of weeks' posts.

Anyway, I will be joining late tomorrow as I have a Labour Party zoom meeting to go to before hand.

Se you all around 10pm my time.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 06:32 PM

Yeah, I've been moving posts to the overflow threads that are crosslinked at the top. Not to worry, Steve.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Splott Man
Date: 01 Mar 21 - 04:55 PM

Here's our contribution. For some reason Zoom wouldn't let me paste.

Bugeilio’r Gwenyth Gwyn (Watching the White Wheat)?Original Welsh words by Wil Hopcyn (1700-1741) ?English translation by David Llewellyn (2002).??Mi sydd fachgen ieuanc ffol
Yn myw yn ol fy ffansi
Myfi’n bugeilio’r gwenith gwyn
Ac arall yn ei fedi
And what a simple fool am I
Who loves at fancy’s pleasure
For whilst I tend the ripening wheat
Another reaps the treasure
 
Though they may lock you dungeon deep
Our love to die aborning
Upon a leaf, blood’s true words speak
Your deepest feelings for me
But I can’t stay, my heart would break
For you must take another
Though stars will fall, our love may shine?As endless time discovers
 
Then in a dream, your vows set free
And to your side I hurry
But from a heart, so torn in two
In this life you’ll not tarry
And now I lose for a second time
To He whose love is greater
For whilst I tend the ripening wheat
Another reaps the treasure
 
Mi sydd fachgen ieuanc ffol
Yn myw yn ol fy ffansi
Myfi’n bugeilio’r gwenith gwyn
Ac arall yn ei fedi 


Follwed by??Little Collier
 
Yr wyf i little collier, yn gweithio underground,
The rope will never tori, when I go lan y lawr.
Bara menyn when I'm hungry, cwrw when I'm dry,
Gwely when I’m tired, and Nefoedd when I die.
 
I'd like to cwrdd the manager, and siarad to him strong,
This bywyd underground might mean, I do not byw for long.
Gwrando Mister Mining Boss, us bechgyn gweithio hard
Talu decent wages or your calon will grow hard.
 
So wella our conditions, and trin my family fair,
Or dwi'n mynd i Pennsylvania, am fywyd gwell lies there.
To all bosses mawr y byd, you know chi fod yn true.?Talu living wages or no Nefoedd waits for you!
 
Repeat first verse


Tune : Pigau'r Dur )Steel Rods)

Splott Man & Dame Pattie Smith EPNS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Mar 21 - 07:28 PM

Hi, Everyone -
Please note that because the US and UK change to Daylight Savings time on different dates, our Singaround for the next two weeks, March 15 and 22, will begin at 7 PM London time. In the US, starting times will be the usual Noon in Los Angeles and 3 PM in New York. Those of you in the rest of the world will have to figure out the starting time on your own, because you're less likely to confuse it than I would be.
We open the doors and chit-chat for half an hour before starting time, and then we sing for about 5 hours and then have an online party.

I'll post a link here about an hour before we open our doors on Monday. If you want advance notice, email me to get on the weekly email notice list. I'm sending out this week's email right now.

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Mar 21 - 01:55 PM

Ides hope to hear you all today!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Mar 21 - 10:07 PM

Email going out now. For you folks not yet on Daylight Savings time, remember that the Singaround will begin an hour earlier than usual. I think we go back to normal coordination on Monday, March 29.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Mar 21 - 09:33 AM

I sent the email out late Saturday. Did anyone get it?
Joe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 21 Mar 21 - 09:58 AM

Yes...loud and clear Joe!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 08:31 AM

I only ever had one email a long time ago, but I just look for the link here and seem to get in OK! Thanks for keeping it all going, Joe and Noreen, and Gerry for doing the songs sung lists....and Chris for suggesting it last June!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 09:49 AM

What'd I miss?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:47 PM

"What'd I miss?"

Mrrzy, I'll be posting the list of what was performed, in the dedicated thread, some time in the next 24 hours, I expect. I know that's a poor substitute for actually being there.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:44 AM

I'm invoking the fifth amendment. :)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:53 AM

It's ok Mrrzy, it got sorted, I did the list till Gerry arrived and passed it straight on to him.
So "What'd I miss?" - Well you of course, Mrrzy!...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Mar 21 - 09:00 PM

Another wonderful gathering. We had something over 50 participants. That keeps us singing for FIVE hours, going twice around the circle. I think we can sustain this as long as we have twenty participants. After that, I think we should talk. But for me, every Monday has been wonderful since we began.....and then I have to take a serious nap right afterwards.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:38 PM

Come one, come all! The announcement for the April 5 Singaround just went out by email. If you'd like to be added to the list or if you didn't get your announcement, email me, [e-mail]


It happens every Monday and goes for about five hours. Doors open half an hour early.
Singing begins at Noon in Los Angeles, 3 PM in New York, and 8 PM in London. Hope you can come.

I've been asked to remind people to keep conversation and spoken song introductions to a minimum during the singing portion of our gathering - but we do appreciate it if you give us the name of the song before you sing, and a brief explanation is always welcome. Our schedule makes some people be up at ungodly hours, and they've come to sing, not talk. We stay open for conversation afterwards for as long as people want to stay.
In general, we have a five-minute time limit per person. Don't fill obliged to fill up the whole five minutes.
In short: Don't talk Too Much!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:56 PM

Joe, perhaps someone should sing this.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Apr 21 - 08:40 AM

That's my plan scuppered for tomorrow. I was planning to do a short (less than 5 minutes) description of a Czech traditional Easter custom instead of the first song. (Illustrated if I would be allowed to screen share).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Cathal O'L
Date: 05 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM

Only just come across this website. Would love to join Joe Offer but am unfortunately working - I'll keep an eye out for others in future.
Enjoy!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 09:52 PM

Thanks for coming, everyone. It was another perfect gathering. Time for my nap now. This has been going for 7 hours.
-Joe-