Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays

Subject: Mudcat online singaround?
From: GUEST,Chris Lamb
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 06:01 AM

Link posted Mondays for the week's Mudcat Worldwide Song Circle

Topic: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - open for cocktails and conversation half an hour earlier Time:Monday 12:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
8 PM London, 3 PM New York, Noon Los Angeles, 5 AM Tuesday in Sydney.

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Back in March, on a thread that's now closed, Joe Offer said: "And I think it would be really nice if we could have a weekly Mudcat singaround online."
Was this suggestion taken up? It would be great to put a face and a voice to some of the regular Mudcatters and to hear them sing, on Zoom, perhaps. I'd love to hear Jim Carroll sing again, for example, as I haven't heard him or Pat McKenzie sing since Critics Group days.

The many singarounds that have sprung up since lockdown started have brought together some fine singers from across the seas and enabled us to hear those we would never have been able to listen to in normal times.
Can the Mudcat community respond to this opportunity?

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM

Now there's an idea!

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 02:06 PM

Go for it!

Regards

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 03:53 PM

That sounds good to me
Nothing much else on a Monday and 9pm start is good

Sarah

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 07:31 PM

I’m up for it too, 9pm Mondays is good for me, and Zoom works well.

Are you up for organising it Joe? ??

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 08:38 PM

Okey-dokey. I think we have a minyan. Well, it's supposed to be 10 adult, circumcised males, but we'll make do with what we've got.

Monday at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and 5 AM in Sydney.

I'll host. I'll post the link to the Zoom session here in this thread just one hour before we begin, and I'll open hp half an hour early at 8:30 PM for cocktails and conversation. There will be a waiting room, and I reserve the right to reject people I don't recognize - so please use your Mudcat names. Sorry.

This should be fun!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: GUEST,SteveT
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 03:42 AM

Is this for signed up Mudcat members only or can 'Guests' (using usual Mudcat Guest sign-in names) also listen in?

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Steve, if you'd like to be on the email list, email me, [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 04:35 AM

I don't expect to be particularly restrictive, Steve. Just use the name you usually use at Mudcat.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM

When you enter Zoom, you will usually be give the opportunity to give the name you want to be known by for the session. If you have not used Zoom since June 1, you may be asked to update to the new, encrypted Version 5 of Zoom. It seems to be quite stable, so just OK the download and there you go - good reason to show up early, though.

I'm looking forward to this.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 09:03 AM

What time Mudcat time, just to be precise?

Monday at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and 5 AM in Sydney.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 12:35 AM

I will post the link in this thread Monday, an hour before the gathering. I will also send links by personal message Sunday, to members who post in this thread. If you've pasted anything above, you'll get a pm from me Sunday. Sorry, I can't send personal messages to Guests, so you'll have to look here Monday for the link.
I will change the meeting ID every week for security purposes.
I can't handle anything that comes in Monday, because I'm teaching a Class Mondays and have just half an hour free after the class.
Looking forward to seeing you Monday.
Joe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jun 20 - 03:33 AM

Just to clarify - I'm asking if somebody else might like to host a singaround on Thursday....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 02:45 PM

Yes that’s right Amergin, for security reasons the new link is only put up about an hour before the start each week, so less likely to attract gatecrashers.

I think it’s even better than the old HearMe (which I remember very fondly) because we can see each other too!
Joe Offer has of course gone another step further and often searches for and adds info and words for the song being sung, in the chat box in real time... which sets this Mudcat Singaround apart from all others I’ve been involved with.

Mudcat is once again in the vanguard of new ideas!
(I wonder whether the wonderful Max might join us one week?!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM

The link people have posted here gives the first-time user the opportunity to download the software even if they load it before or during the event.

Subject: ADD-Don’t Know the Words.(for My FavoUrite Things)
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 01:49 AM

And here are the words for my UK vs US English parody of "My Favorite Things", as a number of people seemed interested. (I've posted it in a Mudcat thread before now, but I've revised it since then, so might as well share the updated version.)

Below the lyrics, I've added a glossary, for those who may not be familiar with all the terms.

Don’t Know the Words... (for My FavoUrite Things)
TTO: Rodger & Hammerstein’s My Favorite Things
New words: Vikki Appleton Fielden

Jelly is jam here, and jello is jelly
The car has a boot and my foot wears a wellie
Mention “sultanas”, I think "Eastern Kings"
Don’t know the words for my favourite things

Summat is not where you go when you’re climbing
Jumper is not someone into sky diving
Bob is Your uncle, the Beeb is your aunt
Don’t know the words to explain what I want

If my languish causes anguish; if you think me sad
Oh, won’t you remember I’m just a poor Yank,
and that’s why I talk... so bad

Beer’s sold by landlords instead of bartenders
Don’t tell the clerk that your man needs suspenders
Braces are not always worn on your teeth
Rubber is nothing to do with a sheath

I stand in line; over here it’s called queueing
Lines are engaged but they never need wooing
You stop while five while I stay until four
Knob isn’t always a thing on a door

If I speak, luv, like a freak, luv; if you think me mad
Oh, won’t you remember I’m just a poor Yank,
and that’s why I talk... so bad

Biscuits are sweet but a tart can be racy,
a Nice bit o’ crumpet might wear something lacy
Crackers are not always eaten with cheese
Folks don’t wear flannels but you can wear fleece

Chips come with haddock; and crisps in a packet
Soccer is football and baseball’s not cricket
Stockings have ladders and Cricket has runs
Baps is the word for my favourite buns

If you’re thinkin’ I’ve been drinkin’; if I seem a cad
Oh, won’t you remember I’m just a poor Yank,
and that’s why I talk... so bad

Two pints of bitter was not a bad notion
Held up two fingers and caused a commotion
I didn’t quack but you called me a duck
Muffler’s not something to quiet a truck

You call me luv; I don’t know who you are, pet
But when I say shag, ducks, I only mean carpet
Met a cute bloke at the Anchor & Bull
Kept my hands off him but he said I pulled

I get confused but I can’t ask my granny
My knickers are knackered and show off my f...reckles
You can go barking though you’re not a dog,
Everyone goes to the loo in a swamp... (um, bog!)

If my diction causes friction; if I’m misconstrued
Oh, won’t you remember I’m just a poor Yank,
and that’s why I talk... so rude!

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GLOSSARY
UK/Yorkshire word – US word
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jelly – Jello
jam – jelly
preserves – jam
boot – (car) trunk
wellie (short for Wellington) – boot
sultana – raisin (sort of: raisins and a sultanas are produced from the same grape but a raisin is dried naturally, and a sultana is dipped in veg oil and acid and then dried.)
summat – something (I think it's a corruption of somewhat)
jumper – sweater
Bob's your uncle – you're all set/in good shape
Auntie Beeb – the BBC
landlord – pub owner
suspenders – garter
braces – suspenders
rubber – condom
queue – line
line – telephone line
engaged – busy
stop – stay
while – until
knob – dick
biscuit – cookie
tart – loose woman
nice bit of crumpet – very attractive woman (usually young)
cracker – very attractive woman
flannel – washcloth
fleece – warm jacket (often woolen)
chips – french fries
crisps – potato chips
football – soccer
ladder – run (as in stocking)
steps – ladder
baps – bread rolls
holding up two fingers is like flipping the bird to someone – rudest possible gesture (but it's ok if you do it like a peace sign).
meduck/ducks – dearie
muffler – scarf
silencer – muffler
luv – darlin'
pet – dear
shag – have sex with
pulled – successfully picked up/scored
knickers – undies
pants – underpants
knackered – worn out
fanny – pussy (as in woman's "front bottom")
barking – mad
bog – bathroom (Brits think we're rather silly to call it a bathroom, especially if there's not even a bath in it)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 03:24 AM

I've sent out the email for Monday's singaround. If you didn't get one, contact me by email, [e-mail].

JennieG, the email I sent you got returned.

Hope to see you all Monday..

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 04:52 AM

Hi Joe, hope to be there tomorrow nght, but I have to go to a zoom committee meeting before hand - because AGMs have been postponed/cancelled, I haven't found a way of getting out of this one. I will probably arrive about 10:00pm my time.

Vikki, your multi-lingual lyrics reminds me of a version we collectively wrote in the Shanty Crew when we were kicking our heels in our hotel after we had fininshed our afternoon sets and waiting for the pub to open for the evening session at Lancaster Maritime Festrival. That one was a bit x-rated referring to 'Sheep in galoshes and nuns in black leather' and the instrumental bridge between the verses 'Nudge nudge nudge, wink wink wink' - referring to Monty Python.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 08:12 AM

If somebody could sing Power and Glory that'd be great. I can't, my throat closes. Emotional.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 03:10 AM

I hope everybody who wanted email notification of Monday's singaround, got it. If you didn't get an email from me and wanted one, please email me, [e-mail] - but you probably won't get one tomorrow, because I won't have time to deal with email. I teach a class on Monday that ends at the exact time I open the doors for the singaround.

I'll post the link a couple of hours before the singaround, but I don't want to post it too early because of the nuisance of Zoom bombing. See y'all tomorrow,

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 09:10 AM

Any plans to make this permanant after lockdowns have finished?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 06:57 PM

Leeneia: the phone numbers are auto-generated by the Zoom website when they produce the invitation, so the host only has to copy the invite! (Not to belittle anything that Joe has done in setting up these sessions as they are great!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 07:55 PM

I am all for not stopping these!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 08:10 PM

Yeah, we used to do this in the 1990s with primitive technology. Now it's so easy. I think we need to keep this going forever.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 11:09 PM

Thanks to Mrrzy and Tattie Bogle for the kind words.

SPB-Cooperator, your song sounds like fun!

It's really been fabulous getting to see and hear the people behind the online names, and hear some gorgeous singing and wonderful songs.
Echoing the thanks to Joe, Noreen and Casey for doing the nuts and bolts that make this possible!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:19 AM

This thread is getting pretty long, but I think I'd like to preserve it as the go-to place for the singaround.
Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing), but I'll probably move most messages over two weeks old to our overflow thread (click).

I'm having the best time at this Monday singaround. My big black dog Madeleine loves it, too, and she often comes into my office to listen while we're singing.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 06:04 AM

Joe said
> Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing)

Here's the one that I sang last night, North Sea Oil

Down by the North Sea shore, a while before now,
While seeking me fortune and rambling around,
I met a little mermaid, very pretty as I recall
And I asked this fond creature where I might find oil.

"Well I know a little oil well not very far from here
And I've been watching over it with the tenderest care
And no-one's been near there since I was a child
And I think you'd find profit to drill there a while."

So I set up my rig and I made a fine stand,
And this sweet little creature gave me a helping hand,
Saying "Daddy, oh Daddy, it makes my blood boil
When you set up your rig to go boring for oil."

Well I kissed this little creature ten thousand times o'er
As we toiled there together all on the sea shore,
With a pillow under her fish-tail, for fear it should soil.
I spat on me auger and went boring for oil.

Well I hadn't been drilling three minutes or four.
At a few inches depth, boys, the gusher did pour.
And she wriggled and giggled, and she said with a smile
"Oh bear down on that auger, for I think you've struck oil."

But it was just a few days after, a thought came in me head,
For the end of that auger was rusty and red.
And I took it to the doctor, and he said with a smile
"I think you struck shale when boring for oil."

I got it from my own recording of Bert at Dingle's Folk Club in London on 4th April 1973.

I have deliberately not checked the above words against the recording, so feel free to spot any folk-processing that I may have done over the years.

In his introduction he refers to earlier versions, so maybe I was wrong in saying that this is one that was entirely his own work rather than his improved version of an existing song, but I suspect that in this form it is mostly his work.

Then again, maybe someone would like to go looking for the earlier versions.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 08:26 PM

Here's the link I mentioned last night:

FOLK SONG AND MUSIC HALL
The intersection of folk and music hall, the songs and social history
http://folksongandmusichall.com/

It's the creation of John Baxter:

"This site features a collection of Songs sung in the Music Halls, the stories of those songs and the people who sang them, and how these songs relate to traditional music of the British Isles. I hope it will encourage people to sing the songs, so where possible I include videos and links to sheet music .

"It also has my blog about the social history of Music Hall. I hope to comment on various ways in which it relates to the social history of folksong. I am mostly bringing together information found by others – though I occasionally delve in Victorian newspapers..."

Really been enjoying these sessions; great songs, great singing! Thanks again to Joe, Noreen and Casey.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 08:44 PM

Oops, forgot to turn the link into a blue clicky...

FOLK SONG AND MUSIC HALL: The intersection of folk and music hall...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 05:17 AM

Thanks Vikki!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Mysha
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 09:01 AM

Folk Song And Music Hall

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom - Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 02:54 AM

Isn't that a great idea?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 08:22 PM

Here are the lyrics I used for Do Youi Think That I Do Not Know.

Do you think that I do not know
Henry Lawson

They say that I never have written of love, as a writer of songs should do
They say that I never could touch the strings with a touch that is firm and true
They say I know nothing of women and men in the fields where Love's roses grow
I must write, they say, with a halting pen do you think that I do not know?

My love-burst came, like an English Spring, in days when our hair was brown
And the hem of her skirt was a sacred thing and her hair was an angel's crown
The shock when another man touched her arm, where the dancers sat in a row
The hope, the despair, and the false alarm do you think that I do not know

By the arbour lights on the western farms, you remember the question put
While you held her warm in your quivering arms and you trembled from head to foot
The electric shock from her finger-tips, and the murmuring answer low
The soft, shy yielding of warm red lips do you think that I do not know

She was buried at Brighton, where Gordon sleeps, when I was a world away
And the sad old garden its secret keeps, for nobody knows to-day
She left a message for me to read, where the wild wide oceans flow
Do you know how the heart of a man can bleed do you think that I do not know

I stood by the grave where the dead girl lies, when the sunlit scenes were fair
Neath white clouds high in the autumn skies, and I answered the message there
But the haunting words of the dead to me shall go wherever I go
She lives in the Marriage that Might Have Been do you think that I do not know

I used a tune by Chris Kempster. Another well-known musical setting is by Slim Dusty. Best recording, for my money, was by Declan Affley.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 08:30 PM

Here are the lyrics I sang for Tumba-bloody-rumba.

TUMBA-BLOODY-RUMBA

He looked for work at muster-time, we tried him as a rider,
We tried him as the rouseabout and as the cook’s off-sider.
He said he'd sailed the seven seas, he’d been up in Alaska,
He’d been in every western state from Texas to Nebraska.

Chorus (repeat after each stanza):
He said he’d shorn a sheep or two and cut a bit of lumber,
And waged war on the kangaroos at Tumba-bloody-rumba.

We tried him as a shearer, we tried him as a stacker,
We tried him digging rabbits out. He wasn’t worth a cracker.
He had a shop in Singapore, he owned a pearling lugger,
He was a champ at baccarat, Australian Rules and rugger.

He never showed his aptitude at jobs he was allotted,
But showed his skill upon the booze, and cigarettes he blotted.
He said he’d climbed the Matterhorn, he’d been a union leader,
And years ago in Adelaide he was a pigeon breeder.

We tried him digging fencing posts, we tried to find his caper,
Until that happy pay-day when he got his piece of paper.
I wonder what he's up to now, perhaps back on the lumber,
Or shooting kanga-bloody-roos at Tumba-bloody-rumba.

Authorship in dispute, set to music by Warren Fahey. If you want the tune, there's a recording by Warren on Youtube.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:18 AM

Is Lawson alluding to Adam Lindsay Gordon's romance with Jane Bridges throughout the poem?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:26 AM

SOng/Parody lesson 101 - If you are going to perform what you have written, make sure that the tune is within your vocal range (as I learned out last night!!!!).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:31 AM

SPB, the reference to Gordon in the 4th stanza is, indeed, to the poet Adam Lindsay Gordon, but the interpretation I've heard is that the poem has more to do with Lawson's relationship with Hannah Thorburn. She died just six weeks before Lawson & his wife, Bertha, arrived back in Australia from two years in England.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:49 AM

Gerry and all who are just discovering Mudcat: You need to join (write to [e-mail]). Guests are welcome to search and use the site, but membership does offer a few extra perks. And by all means, poke around and find the lyrics we already have here. It'll save you a little time reposting them. For example, Gerry, Lawson's poem Do You Think I Do Not Know is an example already in the DT. You are liable to find lyrics there you want to start using!

Good to see all of the new names and faces yesterday.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:59 AM

Gerry, I also found the thread discussing Tumba-bloody-rumba and posted a link back to your post here, but putting the lyrics there would be helpful.

For newcomers to Mudcat, we have the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" for keywords and song titles. Use as few words as you think will bring up results and if it doesn't work the first time Max added a supersearch that hoovers up stuff all over Mudcat and the Internet.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:45 PM

If there are songs posted here, they will eventually be moved to a thread for that particular song. So, free to post lyrics here, and I'll move them in good time.
We don't currently have a way of correcting the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT), and maybe it's a good idea to leave it as Dick Greenhaus left it when he died.
I am gradually trying to ensure that there is a thread to cover every song or family of songs in the DT. The best place to look for correct lyrics is in the threads, not in the DT. If the lyrics in a thread have proper title, songwriter, and source information, you can be reasonably sure they're correct. If the title is allcaps and bold and large, that means it has been reviewed for correctness.

-Joe-

I will use this thread as the permanent notification thread for the singaround. As messages get out of date, I'll move them to the overflow thread or to song threads.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Bearheart
Date: 22 Jul 20 - 06:00 PM

Still hoping someone else who feels motivated will figure out a Thursday Mudcat sing... I already host 2 other Zoom sessions on Monday and Wednesday nights and I am getting ready to start hosting a monthly ballad session for the local group that had been meeting in my living room prior to COVID. So I'm a bit maxxed out on putting something together.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - Doors open NOW!!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 20 - 06:08 PM

Sung by Chris Lamb today.


Zoom Song
By Ruairidh Greig

Chorus
   Off we go it’s time for a Zoom,
   A poem, a song or even a tune.
   Off we go, it’s time for a Zoom,
   Meeting together but not in one room.

Coronavirus has split us asunder
But thanks to this program, it’s really a wonder
We can all get together, though many miles apart
And share our performances straight from the heart.

Make sure you’ve selected “Original Sound”
It’s quite beneficial, most people have found
And try to sit with some light on your face
Your grins and your grimaces might go to waste.

Always remember be nice to your host
If you forget, you will suffer the most
And if you don’t mute when you know that you should
You may well find you’ve been muted for good.

Please don’t make your intro too long,
It shouldn’t go on and on and on.
There’s plenty of others still waiting to sing
So don’t be a Zoom Hog, it isn’t the thing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 05:45 AM

Some feedback from the most recent sing on Monday 27th July.

I made a note of 55 names who joined in, not all singing/performing as audience are welcome too.

People started arriving at 7.30pm UK time for a chat and sound checks as necessary. Singing started at 8pm (or so) and carried on until well after midnight when I had to go get some sleep. People are numbered on arrival and get an opportunity to sing in order, though we can be flexible for those who have to leave early etc. Joe tries to allow everyone to have two songs throughout the night, and latecomers will always have a chance to sing at least once.

It is amazing to see so many Mudcatters from around the world in all their different time zones, weather conditions and surroundings. I'm loving it!

It's never going to be ideal timing for everyone worldwide. The sing does however continue for over 4 hours- 8pm to well after midnight UK time- so there is a chance for those from many time zones to take part.
We have had regular participants from Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, New Zealand, UK and USA which is quite an achievement! And a Pole in Scotland :)
(OK, who have I forgotten this time?!)

So, feel free to pop in next Monday (or Tuesday morning in the antipodes), you will be very welcome!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 11:52 AM

After last week's singaround I forgot to post the words of the song that I had sung, and I've now remembered. I had folk-processed it a little, but here it is as sung by Adam McNaughtan, whose song it is.

Old Annie Brown

Oh Glasgow is ruthless: our town can be cruel tae its own
And Glasgow's indifference left an old woman alone.
Six months she lay dead, before her body was found.
Fa' the Calton she came
And her name
It was Old Annie Brown.

She had stayed in the East End o' Glasgow for all of her days.
Looked after her folks when her brothers were wed and away.
And Annie was fifty when she saw her mother laid down.
There was never the chance o' a man
For Old Annie Brown

So she thought she would stay in the Calton that she knew sae well.
But the city was changing, faster than Annie could tell.
And the people who could moved out as the district came down.
There were few neighbours there
To care
About Old Annie Brown

Now she bought all her food in a big London Road superstore.
And the manager said "We get old folk in here by the score.
So how should I notice if one of them isn't around?
But record my regret
For the death
Of Old Annie Brown".

Dae you know the old woman that stays five or six doors away.
What would you do if you didn't see her today?
If you missed her all week would you, maybe, take a look round?
Don't wait till you miss her
Her name might be Old Annie Brown.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Rex
Date: 28 Jul 20 - 12:49 PM

Many thanks to Joe and the other hosts who set this up. Good to do something with my fellow 'Catters again. I sang the following popularly known as the Gol Darned Wheel. I present it here as written by James Barton Adams, The Cowboy and the Wheel in 1897. My version was truncated in deference to many more performers with songs to sing.

The Cowboy and the Wheel - James Barton Adams
From The Denver Evening Post: Thursday, April 29, 1897.

I kin take the toughest broncho in the wild an' wooly West,
An' kin back him an' kin ride him, let him do his level best;
I kin handle any critter ever wore a coat o' hair,
An' I've had a lively tussle with a 'tarnal grizzly bear.
I kin rope an' throw a long-horn o' the wildest Texas brand,
An' in Injun disagreements I kin play a leadin' hand;
But at last I met my master, an' I shorely had to squeal,
When the boys got me a-straddle of a Gol darned wheel.

It was at the Eagle Rancho on the Brazos whar' I fust
Run across the durn contrivance 'at upset me in the dust-
Natrally up an' throwed me, stood me on my cussed head,
"Trumped my ace in lightin' order," so old Ike, the foreman, said.
'Twas a tenderfoot 'at brought it; he was wheelin' all the way
From the sunrise end o' freedom out to San Francisco Bay.
An' he tied up at the rancho fur to git outside a meal,
Never thinkin' we would monkey with his Gol darned wheel.

Arizony Jim begun it, when he said to Jack McGill
There was fellers fo'ced the limit braggin' o' their ridin' skill,
An' he reckoned there's a puncher not a million miles away
As imagined as a rider he was tolerable gay.
Then he ventured the admission that same fellow as he meant
Was a purty handy critter, fur as ridin' bronchos went,
But he'd find he was a buckin' 'ginst a dif'rent sort o' deal
Ef he'd throw his leather leggin's 'crost that Gol darned wheel.

Sich a slur upon my talent made me hotter 'n a mink,
An' I told him I could back it fur amusement or fur chink;
That 'twas nothin' but a plaything fur the kids an' that he mout
Have his idees sort o' shattered if he'd trot the critter out.
Then they helt it till I mounted, an' I give the word to go,
An' the shove they give to start me wa'n't unreasonably slow.
But I never split a cuss-word, never made a bit o' squeal-
I was buildin' repatation on that Gol darned wheel.

The grade was mighty slopin' from the rancho to the creek,
An' we went a galleyflutin', like a crazy lightnin streak,
Went a whizzin' an' a dartin', fust to this side, then to that,
The contrivance sort o' wobblin' like the flyin' of a bat.
I kep' pullin' on the handles, but I couldn't check it up,
Yanked an' sawed an' jerked an' hollered, but the durn thing wouldn't stop.
An' a sort o' sneakin' idee through my brain begun to steal
That the devil helt a mortgage on that Gol darned wheel.

Holy Moses and the prophets, how we split the Texas air!
The breezes made whip crackers o' my somewhat lengthy hair.
An' I sort o' comprehended as, adown the hill we went,
There was bound to be a smash-up 'at I couldn't circumvent.
Them cow-punchers kep' a-yellin', "Stay right with her, Uncle Bill!"
"Hit 'er with the spurs, you sucker!" "Turn her muzzle up the hill!"
But I never made an answer; I jest let the cusses squeal-
My attention was all focussed on that Gol darned wheel.

I've a sort o' dim and hazy recollection o' the stop-
O' the airth a spinnin' round me, an' the stars all tangled up,
Then there come a intermission, which extended till I found
I was lyin' at the rancho, with the boys all gethered 'round.
An' a medico was sewin' on my skin whar' it was ripped,
An' ol' Arizony whispered, "Wal, ol' boy, I guess yer whipped,"
An' I told him I war' busted from sombrero cl'ar to heel-
Then he grinned an' said, "You'd orter 'see the Gol darned wheel."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 11:13 AM

in a good attempt to keep musicians active their Sunday Social going and of course a bit of focus on the Twa Tams Bar in Perth Scotland, the owners Mad Ferret invite regulars to zap in a tune or two. They then select and stream on Sundays. It is a bit of fun and the quality of the music like that played at the Twa Tams is usually high.

So if you want a listen catch it live Sundays around 5.00pm or 6 pm if things go awry.

Or you can get it on Youtube somewhere by searching.

They sometimes have a 'raffle' the first to message once they start gets a prize.
One week it was a toilet roll!

The next it was a toilet seat (new of course)!

So you can tell that it is a bit of fun.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 11:14 AM

Oh that is UK time by the way.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 09:00 PM

Another lovely gathering. Thank you all for coming.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 Aug 20 - 03:51 AM

Joe, the lyrics you posted in chat for The Swaggies Have All Waltzed Matilda Away are fine, with just two corrections. In the last verse, "Coolies" should be "Koori". Koori is the name the Aboriginal people of New South Wales use to describe themselves. And the fellow who wrote the song was Alistair Hulett, with a double t at the end. Thanks again for putting the show on.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 11:29 AM

found it in an email I don;t use that much any more

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 02:21 PM

Where the hell is the link?
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 02:33 PM

Looks like Joe's busy. Hang on. I'll post it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Aug 20 - 10:05 PM

Thank you all for coming. It was another lovely session.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 02:42 AM

.......and thank you Joe for hosting us. I’m sure it raises all our spirits!
All the best, Pate. (Private joke!!!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 01:21 PM

Once again, thank you to Joe and Noreen for the time and effort you give to make the Singaround possible. Four to five hours - that's a significant favor to the world.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 11 Aug 20 - 02:28 PM

Massive thanks to Joe and Noreen once again. A cracking night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 11:31 PM

I emailed out the invitation just now. If you didn't get one, that means I don't have you on the email list. If you'd like to be on the list, email me, [e-mail]

See you Monday!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 16 Aug 20 - 08:53 AM

I'm sorry I've missed the last two. Two Mondays ago I had got stuck into something or other (even if I now forget what it was) and didn't feel like stopping. Last time, shortly before the singaround was due to start I went to close my back door. It had been sticking for a while and now it would not close at all. Fiddling with the hinges to persuade it to close before I went to bed took priority over anything else that evening.

Not sure whether I'll make it tomorrow.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Aug 20 - 04:23 PM

We miss you when you're not there, Richard. You sing interesting songs.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Noreen
Date: 17 Aug 20 - 02:41 PM

Come on in, I'm taking orders for cocktails...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Aug 20 - 04:13 PM

I'll have a Harvey Wallbanger please.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Aug 20 - 08:50 PM

Thanks for coming, everyone. It was lovely.

-Joe and Noreen and Casey-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 18 Aug 20 - 02:20 AM

Another great night! Cheers one up no end. Thanks everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 18 Aug 20 - 03:48 AM

Great evening and mighty songs thank you!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 18 Aug 20 - 08:18 AM

In yesterday's singaround I sang a song that I call "The Young Promised Land", which I learnt from my recording of one of series of radio programmes narrated by Bert Lloyd under the title "Folk Songs of Australia". I have never met it anywhere else, but Google has just found me an index where the first line "I once was a station-hand, two quid a week" appears on page 943, with the title The Buckjumper.

I think the tune has been used for several songs. It's perhaps best known as The Green Bushes.

I've just listened to the recording and have a few small corrections that I may or may not make to how I've been singing it.

I once was a station hand; two quid a week
In the years that's gone by on the old Bogan Creek.
I was asked by a squatter, and he says "Try your hand
And break in that filly: she's a young promised land".
He said "She's a wild 'un of four years or so."
But he knew that of outlaws I'd ridden a few.

Three days she was handled. I saddled and rode her.
To grass me she tried but a failure I showed her.
The antics she cut was a caution to me.
I was bobbing about like a cork on the sea.
She pitched and the rooted, she spun (arse?) about
But in ten minutes' time, boys, she rolled her tongue out.

It was pitch, root and buck like a bird on the wing.
It was that sort of bucking that grassed poor Jack King.
She hit the fence twice but gave never a stagger
And she rooted as mad as if stabbed by a dagger.
Then off came the saddle, for the girth strap was weak.
And she left a hoof mark on the old saddle seat.

Well she stood and she snorted: she seemed in her glee.
The saddle was down and the filly was free.
She ran round the stockyard, just three times or four
Seeming to glory in the fray that was o'er.
She came mincing up to me: I put out me hand
And that was the last of the young promised land

I caught the short rein that hung from her jaw
And I jumped on her bare back: there was fireworks galore,
Till her muscles they twitched to her heart's broken sound.
She fell dead in her tracks, boys, and lay on the ground.
Her jaw was all broke where her sharp hooves had struck.
"Thank God." says the foreman, "That's a bit of good luck."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 19 Aug 20 - 03:46 AM

Richard, The Buckjumper is in Ron Edwards, Great Australian Folk Songs. Edwards writes,

The Buckjumper is an unpublished song from the collection of English folklorist A. L. Lloyd. He sent this to me in 1972, and I gather that he collected it when he was in Australia in the late 1920s. Oddly enough I have on tape an account of an almost identical incident recounted to me by an ex-horsebreaker.
It goes to the tune "Villikins and his Dinah."

Richard's lyrics are almost identical to the lyrics in Edwards. The only significant differences are

2nd stanza, 1st line, Edwards has: Three days she was handled, then I saddled and rode her.

4th stanza, 5th line, Edwards has: She minced up to me

"arse-about" is correct

Promised Land is capitalized in Edwards; I wonder whether that was the name of some well-known racehorse.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Aug 20 - 01:50 PM

Singaround emails have been sent out. I post the URL for the Singaround here about 2 hours before we start, but don't want to post it publicly earlier. If I forget, maybe Noreen will remember and post it here.
If you'd like to be on the email list, email me at [e-mail]

Hope to sing with you tomorrow!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 23 Aug 20 - 05:20 PM

Just dropped in on a whim, after spending a fair amount of time on Chiff and Fipple and latterly wasting vast amounts of time on Twitter over the last few years.

Delighted to see there are some familiar names still showing up, and totally unsurprised to see Joe still doing that public-service thing.
And almost nostalgic to see that my old work email address popped up when I logged in again, given that I retired in 2011.

I originally ventured into the Café on a work-related mission, believe it or not: a senior official in my workplace wanted to quote some verses of "The maid of Aughrim" in a speech, and I was blown away by how, within 24 hours, Catters in different parts of the world came up with more information than I could possibly use. So a worldwide singaround sounds particularly appropriate.

I drifted away from the Mudcat for a variety of reasons, one of which I won't go into, but also because, as a non-singer, I always felt like a bit of a chancer with little to contribute, and C&F became a better fit. I might listen in to one of the next Zoomarounds.

BTW, does a surgical circumcision count, Joe? ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Aug 20 - 11:24 PM

What other kind of circumcision is there?

No but seriously, any genre requests? I can't think of what I want to sing...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 20 - 12:28 AM

You're welcome to come in and listen and say hello, APC. Link will be in this thread 2 hours before, or you can email me if you want to be on the weekly notification list.
Yeah, I guess I'm still doing the "public service thing." I hope it helps.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Aug 20 - 11:35 AM

Joe, it totally totally helps! Thanks! Stay out of the fires!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Aug 20 - 05:26 PM

Still going strong, come join us!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 20 - 09:50 PM

Another wonderful gathering. Thank you all for coming. See you next Monday.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 12:40 AM

I enjoy the singarounds. I don't get nervous; it's as relaxing as singing for little kids. Today I fluffed a line and it didn't bother me a bit.

I enjoy the variety of songs, and I like it that Joe posts the words whenever he can. Thanks, Joe.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 12:43 AM

It was a nice assortment of songs today!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 02:50 AM

I enjoy it a lot. Like Leeneia I enjoy the variety of songs and the lyrics in the chat.
I regret I can't stay longer and sing another song as I'm not supposed to make noise after 10pm (1pm Pacific time) but it'd be far too late anyway.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 03:13 AM

Another lovely session! Thanks folks and special thanks to Joe for your hard work behind the scenes.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 04:04 AM

This regular sing is encouraging me to refresh songs from way back, sometimes because of mentions here on Mudcat, sometimes after my memory has been jogged by other songs sung or discussions between songs.
As leeneia says above, it is a safe place to perform with a VERY interested and supportive audience, all in our own rooms around the world.

I still find it amazing that I take part in an event with other performers from so many other countries in so many time zones. (I’ll post a list of all the countries I am aware of, when I’ve checked to make sure I’ve left no country out!)

So if you’re thinking of joining us, please do! Just come and listen if you like, or take part :)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 04:23 AM

So sorry to have missed this week but had some work committments and a deadline that took priority. Hope to be there next week.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 04:24 AM

ooops that was me in last post - didn't realise I'd been logged out!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 05:17 AM

In the chat before yesterday's session, Paul Clarke posted this:
" I'm planting this little 'bomb' to see if it creates any buzz among you: Mudcat Zoom session, with a theme of songs/tunes within songs. Songs that reference other music would be sung, and broken off at the appropriate point for [I'd moot] another performer to render the mentioned tune, or in the case of a song, to segue one after the other. I think I've listed, or been triggered to note but forgotten to[!], about 15 of these, but with all the Cat brains jointly at work on the idea, I'm sure many more would crop up. Perhaps needs a couple of weeks' notice, esp. to tout for the musical partner, but worth considering?
When I get back, I may ask the question again, with some examples. Meantime, what does Joe O and others think of it."

That could indeed be fun, but it will certainly need considerable advance planning to identify the relevant songs and tunes and the personnel to perform them.

Paul, if you see this, please post your list to save us racking our brains for examples that you've already thought of.

The only one that I can think of immediately is Byker Hill and Walker Shore referring to "the tune of Elsie Marley".

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Mysha
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 06:30 AM

Are we supposed to remember all the tunes in The Devil went down to Georgia, or The Galway shawl, or the Monkeys wedding?

Mysha

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Mysha
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 06:37 AM

Monique, maybe you can do something less loudly? Recite a poem, tell a story if the host allows. You're not limited to the chat like I am, so there must be ways to perform even if you're not supposed to make noise. (Well, listening to others would obviously fall in the no-=noise category as well.)

Bye
Mysha

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: rosma
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 06:43 AM

Richard, Galway Shawl ('I played "The Blackbird" and "The Stack of Barley", "Rodney's Glory" and "The Foggy Dew"') gives some serious scope.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Mysha
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 07:15 AM

I guess this is more something for a Songs in Song thread. Is there such a thing?

'The band played "Waltzing Matilda"' would also fall in that category.


Bye
Mysha

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 07:29 AM

It's a fun idea, Paul, and might yield some interesting examples, but I agree with Mysha, more suitable for a discussion thread than an actual performance, which would be unwieldy to say the least, even if the sequential and overlap issues of zoom could be overcome. It's indicative tho', that almost all of the examples that spring readily to mind involve traditional tunes - and several of them are already done as "song-tune combis" in performance. Midnight on the Water, steady and slow...
With "songs within songs" tho', a full combi rendition would be less satisfying simply because of the desired effect of the placing within the original creation, IMHO. Take the above-mentioned Waltzing Matilda, which has its own designated placing and Purpose.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 05:38 PM

I think I started a songs-mentioning-songs thread a while ago, but I can't find it.

One had better be careful to exclude songs (such as "Turkey in the Straw") that mention themselves, which could lead to an infinity of self-interruptions.

Anyway: The Whiffenpoof Song mentions "Shall I Wasting" and "Mavourneen" and the rest.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 05:53 PM

Thank you, Joe and Noreen. I'll listen in one of these Mondays coming up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 26 Aug 20 - 07:15 AM

There is "The broadside man" as another example of songs named (or at least described) within a song.

I always thought that it could be expanded as an album.

On the same theme, I have my "Harbour Wall" song on YouTube now with some of my fathers photos. I did think that because each verse covers a different aspect and time in the history of the harbour, it would be an idea to use each verse as an intro to other songs covering the same idea.

Robin

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Aug 20 - 12:55 PM

I kissed her while the guitars played the Bonaparte's retreat...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Aug 20 - 10:31 PM

Reilly is warbling I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen, which is inspiring me to think of what to sing on Monday...
One More Time!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 31 Aug 20 - 05:35 AM

I'm hoping to sing Used To Be A River, written by Sydneysider Craig Edmondson. I haven't found lyrics nor video anywhere on the web, so I'll post them here. The song, as Craig sings it, is not suitable for unaccompanied singing, so I've rearranged it as a call-and-response song, with the responses in parentheses.

Used to Be a River
Craig Edmondson

1. This used to be a river (used to be a river)
But now it is a sewer (now it is a sewer)
But it used to be a river,
And I wonder where the river got to go.

Chorus:
These changes, I have seen, I have seen
To the people and the places
Dear to me, dear to me.

2. This used to be a mountain (used to be a mountain)
But now it is a golf course (now it is a golf course)
But it used to be a mountain,
And I wonder where the mountain got to go.

Chorus

3. This used to be a forest (used to be a forest)
But now it is a Kmart (now it is a Kmart)
But it used to be a forest,
And I wonder where the forest got to go.

Chorus

4. You used to be my baby (used to be my baby)
But now you are a stranger (now you are a stranger)
But You used to be my baby,
And I wonder where my baby got to go.

Chorus (once or twice, as the spirit moves you)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 31 Aug 20 - 10:55 PM

Thanks for the very kind welcome and encouragement on my first zoom try at the singaround today. Sorry I am dim about seeing chat messages but my machine shows the text at about 1-point size, and if I boost it to 2-point by going full screen I can hear my hard drive overheating.

Anyway, there was an old thread about the Willow Tree song, so I posted lyrics with chords over on that in case anybody wants to have a go at it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Sep 20 - 11:31 AM

Well, Patty, if you can't see the chat, then you missed the many compliments you received for a fine song and a sweet voice. One compliment was mine. Thanks for singing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 01 Sep 20 - 01:34 PM

Thanks, leeneia! I did squint in and see some kind remarks, and tried to send a few remarks of my own. But, I did not realize when I was being 'paged' by Joe and could not 'keep an eye' on the text feed. I will have to study up and see what I can adjust.

I was blown away by all the wonderful songs and singers I heard. Including your 'Dog Days', I hope you have posted it on the 'cat or will soon!

I had hoped to go to several festivals and run some song sessions this year, and those plans got blown to bits. So this is such a wonderful thing to see and hear.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Sep 20 - 06:58 PM

Have missed too many! Been going through a bad patch with my hearing lately, (Meniere's Diease) but after that last injection, might be up for next week. Enjoyed those I have attended so far.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Sep 20 - 11:01 PM

I emailed the invitations for Monday's singaround. If you didn't get an invitation and would like to attend, contact me by email, or watch this space on Monday for the link - for security reasons, I don't post the link publicly until just before the singaround.

Hope to see you there.

Joe Offer
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 08:23 AM

I might be much later than usual.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 06:04 PM

I might not make it at all this week [sad frowny face] but have fun y'all!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 08:52 PM

We missed you, Mrr. It was a good session.
Come back next week.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 09:27 AM

I was about to ask what'd I miss?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 10:29 AM

Some Zoom sessions are recorded and made available subsequently through YouTube or otherwise. Is this a possibility for the Mudcat Singaround? A few singers might want the recording paused for their bits, but I think most of us would be OK about being recorded, and it would give everyone the chance to catch up on whatever we've missed -- if we can find the time, of course.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 09 Sep 20 - 12:59 PM

I had already thought about how some Zoom events are also on youtube, and I concluded that it was a good thing that the Mudcat singaround isn't ... the quality - or should I say expertise - is very variable, which doesn't matter when we are a circle of friends but could be uncomfortable if we are exposed to anybody and everybody on line. Much as it would interest me to hear myself later, on the whole I prefer the privacy of an ephemeral session.

What I would like to have is a Mudcat thread run by the moderators, which would give a list each week of which songs were sung that Monday.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Sep 20 - 11:39 PM

The chat has almost all the lyrics to all the songs that were sung. I could post them if there's an interest, but it's easy to save the chat yourself. I've asked about recording the session, but too many people were reluctant about that.
Anybody who attends can save the chat to their own computer.
-Joe-

I sent emails with Monday's URL out on Saturday. If you didn't get an invitation and would like to attend, email me.

[e-mail]


(if you'd like copies of the chat from previous sessions, email me)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: GerryM
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 05:33 AM

If you don't join at the start, then you can only see and save the chat from the time you join (unless I'm missing some clever dodge). Joining at 7:30am Sydney time, I get to save roughly the second half of the chat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 06:00 AM

I agree with Felipa about the variable quality/expertise/whatever you prefer to call it, but the same probably applies to most online singarounds, as indeed it does to in-person sessions when those are possible. If a session is to be recorded, anyone who wishes should be able to have the recording paused, whether because they feel that they're not very good or for any other reason (or no reason at all). That is how it works for Sharp's singarounds; but in practice I think few if any do request a pause.

But anyway Joe has sounded out participants for the Mudcat one so I won't pursue it beyond this post.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 07:10 PM

It was another enjoyable session. Thanks to the organizers.

I had a doctor's appt beforehand, and while I was waiting, I sang my song to warm up my voice. One might as well make use of the time.

By the way, I had to visit the ER mid-week, and while the DH and I waited in our room, we heard people laughing in the hall several times. This is not the view of an ER that we get from the media. (I came out okay.)

I have a question: during the Singaround, does the volume I set on the sliding bar of my own computer affect the volume at which my song goes out, or does Zoom make sure my volume is good?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 04:00 AM

Your listening volume has no effect on what goes out, leeneia.
There are various settings you can adjust to make your sound the best it can be- if you join the session early next time (before we start singing) you can try adjusting settings and get feedback on what works best.

Another lovely session last night, thanks all!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 12:22 PM

Thank you for the information, Noreen. Apparently my sound settings are acceptable.

Zoom seemed a little peculiar on Monday - people's pictures popped up and then disappeared, even though they were not singing at the time, and twice it tried to sign out of the session without my asking it to.
But I suppose Zoom's system is under a lot of pressure now.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 03:14 AM

I just sent out the emails with this week's link. If you didn't get one and would like to attend, email me, [e-mail]

Hope to sing with you soon.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 02:52 PM

What was RBG's fave folk song?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 07:29 AM

RBG and Scalia were notorious opera fans. Don't know that she spent much time on folk. See the RBG movie. The part on opera was delightful.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 12:43 PM

I sang "Miner's Lifeguard" and "Life's Railway to Heaven," which both use the same melody in the US. I understand that "Miner's Lifeguard" is sung to a different melody in Great Britain. I'd sure like to hear that different melody.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 06:30 AM

Sorry I missed it Joe, I’d be interested in your tune to the miner’s lifeguard. Hope all went well in my absence!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 12:55 PM

Hi, Noreen - we missed you, but we muddled through. I think we had a total of 44 people yesterday.
Here's the seminal US recording of "Miner's Lifeguard," by Pete Seeger and the Almanac Singers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMwxXyH3DEU

Here's an English recording by Bob Fox and Benny Graham, which uses the same melody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYISYD7YiWw

Here's a great choral performance by Brian Connick and Cor Meibion Onllwyn (Onllwyn Male Voice Choir):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJJjpxkwlg

Maybe I'm mistaken and maybe the US and UK use the same melody for this song.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 11:21 AM

Invitations for Monday have been emailed. If you didn't get one and would like to be on our email list, contact me at [e-mail].

Hope to sing with you Monday!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 07:06 PM

Re: the Miners' Lifeguard Joe, those three versions (great stuff!) were of the same tune, as is this one sung by the Wilsons.
Apparently this song shares a melody with the traditional Appalachian song "Life's Railroad to Heaven."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 10:10 PM

Yeah, Noreen, I thought I heard there was a Welsh melody used for "Miner's Lifeguard," but I can't find it. My memory sometimes gets scrambled.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 11:04 AM

I may be late to the Singaround this week, roadtripping out for lunch. I can listen on the way back, though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: mg
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:58 PM

it is not clicking or letting me copy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 07:07 PM

Thanks for being hosts, Joe and Noreen. I enjoyed today's pleasant singaround. (September 28th.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:03 PM

What'd I miss?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:07 PM

We missed YOU, Mrrzy. You are a wonderful part of our community. And yes, it was a wonderful gathering.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:28 PM

Many thanks to Joe Offer & rest of gang on tonight's show - very entertaining diversion away from all the doom, gloom & worst of all ennui!

See y'all next time!

Mr H

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 06:07 PM

Will be in exile to landlocked Cz Republic from tomorrow. Hope, all being well, to be back on 26th October.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 07:52 PM

Good luck and safe encounters in setting up any new gigs!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 04:46 PM

I'm Zoom-attending the annual Getaway of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington this weekend, and I realize that a good half of our regular Mudcat Singaround singers are attending, too. Rather than conflict with the last day of the Getaway, we've decided to cancel Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround. See you next week, Monday, October 12.

You can join us at the Getaway. It's a wonderful gathering, and Mudcatters have been attending since 1999. Register here:

https://www.fsgw.org/getaway

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 05:09 AM

Well, there goes my social life for the week.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 11:58 AM

Hoping to go to the dogs with you later Joe. Just doing the last session at Virtual Tenterden Festival first but that finishes at 9.30pm so should be with you soon after!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

We'll miss you, Gerry. The Getaway is wonderful, and so many of our regular Singaround singers found their way to the Getaway. Many are on the tech staff, or are leading workshops. I had so much fun leading the dogs workshop with Dawn Berg (she was the adult in the room).
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 09:14 AM

Refresh - we are on today, right?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 11:35 AM

Yes we are, chk yr messages I'm forwarding Joe's email.

Can't make it myself today, it's a travel day as Mondays often are.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 05:28 PM

Refresh... we're still going strong.
Great songs and singing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 06:26 PM

I am not making it back but luvs! Next week, Oscar Brand returns.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 07:40 PM

Oh and thanks for the filters! I had to re-download Zoom but now I can have a beret.
Oh, wait, I already do. Moustache, then!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM

I suggest it would be nice to sometimes have a theme for the night. It wouldn't be obligatory; but if people are invited in advance to sing a song relating to a given topic, I expect many of the singers would oblige.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 06:40 PM

We had quite a lot of autumnal/seasonal/October songs on our local Zoom session tonight, and later this month will be Hallowe'en!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 01:37 PM

This Monday will be my last in the folk 'wilderness' this time it will be me in transit arriving at Gatwick about 10:30 pm London time, then 2-3 hours to get home.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:00 PM

Hi, Felipa

I go to another weekly singaround that has themes. It can be nice, bu I'm not inclined to require it for the Mudcat Singaround. I see singers often inspire each other and carry a theme along, and I think I prefer that sort of spontaneity.
Cheers!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:46 PM

I just got an email from Pelagie, asking what time we'll be starting this coming Monday. The UK goes to standard time this Sunday, 25 October. I suppose the same applies to Ireland and the rest of the EU. Am I correct?

The US goes to standard time on Sunday, November 1.

The math confounds me here. This coming Monday, if we start the singaround at 8 PM London time (which is what I'm inclined to do), what time will it be in California?

-Joe, puzzled-

---

It appears from the converter below that on October 26, it will be 8 PM London time and 1 PM California time.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20201026T200000&p1=136&p2=4962

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM

Joe, Ireland follows Greenwich time, but in France etc. it is an hour different and if they have "summer time" ("daylight savings time" in US). There was talk of the E.U. doing away with seasonal time changes for member states in future.

re themes, I suggested having occasional theme nights,not weekly and that the theme would not be obligatory. I did enjoy the themed sessions at the virtual Getaway. There the theme was pretty much obligatory but in some cases very widely interpreted.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM

Because we have a number of singers in the UK who come in late, I'm going to schedule the Singaround according to London time this coming Monday. So the Singaround will start as usual at 8 PM London time, but at 1 PM Los Angeles Time and 4 PM New York time.
I'll be sending out the email in a few minutes.
See you Monday.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM

Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM

> Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Normally it's eight hours, but not in the brief period when one is on daylight saving and the other isn't.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM

Well, I screwed that up, as Bev Praver gently told me. The discrepancy in time changes happens on Monday, October 26. And on THAT day, the Singaround will start at 1 PM Pacific Time and 4 PM Eastern, and 8 PM London time.

But this coming Monday is October 19, and it will be at the usual times.

Sorry for the confusion.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM

??

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM

Ah no, that was not a puzzled response, it was meant to be a wry smile!

: )

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM

Thirty-four of us in here now. A great night is being had by all!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM

Bit of shameless self-promotion here:

Thanks to those who were saying nice things about my own original tune for 'Cold Blow and the Rainy Night' at the singaround today.

If you like it, it's on my CD 'Folk Songs and Renovations.' You can get the single track here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM

Once upon a time, my voice teacher gave me a tip about stage fright. She said there is bound to be at least one person in the audience who wishes you well and looks friendly. Focus on that person.

Now, the week before last, I was singing and looking for that person, and I realized to my dismay that most of the faces I saw were not people, but photographs. I suppose they were people who didn't want to listen to others, just to sing themselves. So they ambled off to walk the dog or balance their checkbook, leaving their lifeless picture in their place. Pfui.

Last Monday, I am happy to say, there were many more live people in place, and I felt better about singing my song. Keep up the good work, everybody.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:46 PM

And it was a very lovely song you sang and well sung too on Monday!

I do try to stay live on Zoom unless it is absolutely necessary to switch off video because I think this is what you would do in a real folk club if you spent your evening there ....plus you never know what you might miss.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: pattyClink
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:06 PM

Oh, leeneia, don't despair and think people aren't interested in hearing the other singers. The session lasts 5 hours, and that's a very long time to sit in rapt attention with an encouraging look on one's face. I cut my video every now and then while I take a break for a snack or bathroom break or stretch, or just be 'at ease', and I'd rather mute my video and still hear the singer, than have the singer see me scratch myself or fork down some food.   I think you just had the bad luck to be in the spotlight when too many people were taking a break. We love hearing you!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

Hear hear!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 06:45 PM

The other thing is, that if people are having problems with their broadband connection, it helps to switch off the video and just use the audio, so don't take it personally if people are not all avidly watching: or they might be having their supper and don't want to be seen stuffing their faces...! I might bring my knitting next week, or do my ironing!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 07:05 PM

It people are singing and having connection problems, I will sometimes switch off their video so the sound comes through better. This is not meant as an insult (usually ;-)

They should feel free to switch their video back on once they're finished singing.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM

Thanks, Sarah. I'm glad you liked it.

I thought my voice sounded pretty bad, (it being ragweed season) but now I think that since we are right on top of our own voices, so to speak, we hear minor imperfections that listeners do not.

I encountered the same thing with a recorder once. I made a tape of myself, and I sounded better than I thought I did.

But I wish I had a clear, reliable voice like you, Schlomo and Noreen.
==============
As for the other matter, it's hard to believe that 80 or 90% of the group had an errand at the same time. And attention doesn't have to be avid; it's enough if a person moves a little once in a while. But that's over now. People were back for the last session.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 12:23 AM

Hi, Everyone -

I hope you will be able to join us for Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on 26 Oct It will be at the usual 8 PM London time, but an hour later than usual in the rest of the world (1 PM Los Angeles, 4 PM New York) - due to the vagaries of the change from Daylight Savings Time. We'll be back in sync next week.

Could be interesting - Casey and I have been threatened with an electric power blackout, but Noreen and others have volunteered to fill in if we can't make it.

See you Monday.

I sent out the email just now. If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, [e-mail]


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 10:25 PM

Joe - I had sent you an email about a week ago requesting info info on the Singaround. I did not get the email today tht you describe here. Can you send me the Zoom URL for tomorrow’s Singaround? Is that all I need to be able to play a song tomorrow, or do you pre-select the singers?

Jim Burrill
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 11:59 PM

Sorry I missed you, Jim. You're on the list now and should have the email.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:01 AM

It is now 11 am Monday, and I likewise have received no notification of the URL. Am I actually on the mailing list?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:57 AM

I was on it, but seem to have slipped off it a while back. I usually get the link from the Mudcat Facebook page.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM

Hi y'all dentist today so aching jaws. Might come listen, though. Say Hi to Robert Rodriquez and everyone else though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Oct 20 - 12:45 AM

A very spooky day of songs. Lots of good singing, some of it moderately scary. My house generator lasted all day on a 6-gallon tank of gas, and the mains power finally came on as our singaround was ending.
One woman from the San Francisco Bay area sang a "Broken Token" song. When she introduced the song, she said it was written by Vikki Appleton Fielden. I started to introduce Vikki to the singer, but Vikki shushed me. So, we all held our tongues while the singer sang Vikki's song - and we all got a good laugh out of it afterwards. The woman sang very well, and Vikki was thrilled to have somebody sing her song.
Thank you all for a wonderful gathering.
Back to the usual times for next week's gathering. This daylight savings discrepancy lasts only one week, and then the US and UK are back in sync again.

-Joe-

We missed you, Casey. Hope the electric power is back on at your wilderness home. Thanks to Noreen for doing a great job of hosting, and to Dawn for assisting.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 28 Oct 20 - 04:01 PM

Where is Joe and Noreen? 8pm gmt and meeting not open for me!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 Oct 20 - 09:08 AM

Hi folks,

I won't be able to join you all until about 10pm GMT as I have another - important - zoom meeting to go to - nothing to do with folk or music.

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM

We were there on Monday 26th October Bradfordian, and will be there again next Monday 2nd November. I presume you were hoping we were there on another day?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Oct 20 - 08:32 PM

The email has gone out for Monday's Singaround, which starts at 8 PM London time. If you'd like to join us and didn't get an email, contact me by email and I'll add you to the list.
Joe Offer
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 01 Nov 20 - 08:14 AM

I've noticed that their are quite a few parodies about trump floating round. I know we don't do themes, but with the looming election and the gloom and doom around the world if anyone has any they can share it might lend itself to some much needed levity... On a selfish note, preferably after I am able to get to the session.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 10:18 AM

Oh I got levity planned. And some truly foul language.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: voyager
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 07:48 PM

I got-a-way with this Mudcat Hootenanny Tonight. What a hoot.
Very much enjoyed singing our family version of 'Fox Went Out on a Chilly Night' - Mudcat thread

https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=168801&messages=10#4077945

voyager

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 11:02 PM

Another delightful singaround. I'm glad Tim/Voyager came and sang the version of 'Fox Went Out on a Chilly Night' that was passed on through his family. I think I'll take up that version myself, but I wanted to hear if from somebody who knew it first.
Such wonderful singing and such nice people, every Monday.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 07 Nov 20 - 01:50 PM

I will be drinking a glass or two of prosecco on Monday night to share the celebration of the result.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Nov 20 - 03:06 PM

Come join us and sing on Monday, November 9. We start singing at Noon Los Angeles, 3 PM New York, and 8 PM London time. And some hardy souls from New Zealand and Australia will join us at the crack of dawn Tuesday. Doors open half an hour beforehand for cocktails and conversation. We sing two times around the group, which takes 4 to 5 hours, and then we have a cocktail hour afterwards.

I've emailed out the link for Monday's sing just now. If you're not on the list and would like to be, contact me by email, [e-mail].

Hope to sing with you soon.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Nov 20 - 11:51 PM

I sent out the emails with Monday's link yesterday (Saturday). If you didn't get an email and would like to join us, send me an email.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 18 Nov 20 - 12:12 AM

There was a request for the words to the parody I sang on Monday (Nov 16th), so here it is (I've also added it to the "'Fall of Trump' songs" thread).

Nobody knows where my vict'ry has gone
Rudy said it would be mine
Joey and Kam are ruining my plan
To rule to the end of time

It's my party and I'll lie if I want to
Lie if I want to, lie if I want to
You would lie too if it happened to you

Playing my mindgames on election night
Tweeting that mail-ins are frauds
Any vote cast that was not for me
Just ain't the will of the Lawd

It's my party and they'll lie if I say so
Lie if I say so, lie if I say so
You would lie too if you wanted a coup

Antifa libtards all think they have won
But I'll show them they are wrong
Oh what a bigly surprise
I've had advice from Kim Jong

It's my party and they'll lie if I say so
Lie if I say so, lie if I say so
You would lie too if you wanted a coup

Some nasty people think all votes should count
Whether or not they're for me
So bad they can't understand
Wake up and smell the covfefe

It's my Whitehouse and I'll stay if I want to
Stay if I want to, stay if I want to
You would stay too if you wanted a coup
You would lie too if you wanted a coup
You would lie too if it happened to you

new words by Vikki Appleton Fielden, 16th Nov 2020
Video here or here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GerryM
Date: 18 Nov 20 - 11:22 PM

I tried to make a list of all the songs/poems that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 16/17 November 2020. I came in half an hour into proceedings, so I missed maybe half-a-dozen at the beginning. And there were a few where I didn't get a name, just a topic. Here's what I have:

Ranter's Wharf
Bring Us Good Ale
A Chat with Your Mother
Le P'tit Bonheur
Frankie and Johnny
Rolling and Tumbling
Viva La Quince Brigada
Shocking Murders in Whitechapel
Rupert the Ranger
Everybody Knows Me in My Old Brown Hat
Jamboree Jones
Send Me to Glory in a Glad Bag
Congo River
I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel To Be Free
The Rains Have Come Again
We'll Chant Away Until Dawn
And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda
Thiepval
[Shout Out Shop]
Vegematic
I Still Miss Someone
Le Chinois
Mary was an Only Child
I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry
Such a Nice Girl, Too
No Sun, No Moon
Ballad of Dog Dually
Cannily, Cannily
Rock Me Baby
Whaleroad
Light of a Clear Blue Morning
Do Me Ama
Turn the Lathe Gently
King of Rome
The Willow Tree
Sally Free and Easy
Fanny Blair
The Barley Mow
Lie If I Want To
Gray Goose
Song for Vic (Borneo)
The Half-Hitch
Captain Kidd
Eensie Weensie Spider
More Hills to Climb
(Parody of) Galway Bay
My Own Dear Galway Bay
The Shape of Things
Gone Shopping
Lincoln Park Pirates
Beans Taste Fine
[Song about masking]
Shift and Spin
Appliance Time Again
Little Sadie
Andy's Gone with Cattle
Lady River
The Last Adieu
Irn Bru
Not Spenser
[Song based on The Bold/Beaux Gendarmes]
To All the Cats I've Loved Before
Pirate Jenny
Witch Hazel

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 12:28 PM

That's great Gerry thanks! So many great songs I missed by leaving early.
Do you remember who sang Song for Vic? Not heard that for too long.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 02:08 PM

Noreen - I own up! It was myself who sang Song For Vic...

And Gerry M - here's what i can tell you about the first few items:
Joe Offer started with Right Said Fred
then Pelagie read the Les Barker poem My Bag For Life Has Just Died
then I sang Frankie's Trade (Kipling-Bellamy)
then Anne Gregson sang her own composition I Don't Need You
then Monique sang a French ditty which revolved around Ding-dong but i didn't catch the title although I believe Joe had it in the chat log.
After that you're on track with Noreen's beautiful rendition of Ranter's Wharf.
Hope that helps.
Cheers!

---

Monique sang "Les filles des forges"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 03:20 PM

The breeches/petticoat swap is sung after the 4th verse in the live rendition.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 04:14 PM

Moorley Man, Monique, thanks for filling in some gaps. The things I miss by insisting on getting dressed and having some breakfast before joining the festivities!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:27 PM

We're glad you come in clothing, Gerry... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 07:42 AM

I’ve not been logging the songs I do on Mudcat Zoom. On 16th I did a poem “November” by Thomas Hood.which is listed as “No Sun, no moon”

Nice to see that someone else sang “More hills to climb”, it’s a great song that I have done previously on Mudcat Zoom.

On another note, “Andy’s gone with cattle” sounds interesting. If that’s a parody, anyone have the lyrics to share?
Brad.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 08:01 AM

gerry, for your list, the titles of the two songs I did were:

Somebody Would Shout Out Shop   (Weston & Lee - 1915), and
The Gallant Shopping (Lyrics S P Belsey - 1986, Tune Trad)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:29 PM

Thanks, SPB. Bradfordian, Andy's Gone with Cattle is not a parody, it's a poem written by the Australian poet Henry Lawson in 1888, set to a tune collected by John Manifold.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:34 PM

The lyrics to Andy's Gone with Cattle are in the Digital Tradition. Maybe /mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=286 will get you there.

There are a couple of mondegreens in the DT version. "cheat" should be "cheek", and "tomorrow" should be "torrents".

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 06:32 PM

Try this: Andy’s Gone With Cattle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 07:00 PM

Emails have been sent out - Saturday, I think. If you'd like an advance link by email, contact me.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 04:45 PM

30 people here now, but it's been up to 49. Come join us. The singing is wonderful.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 10:55 PM

We got up to #49 today, Joe, just an unusual number of late (but very welcome!) arrivals.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:53 PM

andys gone with cattle sounds like this,ignore the tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5w75f_Lz_A&list=UU-GtPNIEDLICv5yKnirJAPg&index=31

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 05:41 PM

Waddon Pete has a special talent for marking events, as evidenced by his In Memoriam Permathread. He tells me our singaroud on November 30 will be our 25th singaround. I had no idea we had done so many. Every one of them has been delightful - and almost all of them have lasted 5 hours!
Here's hoping we will have many more, even after we're able to get together in person to sing.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 05:53 PM

Just as wonderful as the singing was the actual conversation afterward. Knowledgeable, cheerful people, so polite that they didn't have to mute. %^)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 25 Nov 20 - 09:05 PM

Here's my list of songs that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 23/24 November 2020. I came in half an hour into proceedings, so I missed maybe half-a-dozen at the beginning. I didn't get a name for the song Jerry O'Neill sang, about singing folk songs to a very noisy, non-folkie audience. Also, Steve Belsey sang a shanty, all I got was the repeated phrase, "a dollar a day". Laura Martin sang two songs in Gaelic, I only got one of the titles, Fear a Bhata. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks all welcome. Here's what I have:

Dido, Bendigo
The Solo Sock
I Haven't Told Her, She Hasn't Told Me
When All Men Sing
L'alouette et le pinson
Lovers Heart
A Dollar a Day [?]
She's Someone's Grandmother
River Driving
Sailor's Grave
Megan Murphy
254 Shades of Gray
Song for Wind and Tree
[Jerry O'Neill]
The Key of R
It Bruised Her Somewhat
Thanksgiving Eve
The Bergen
Now I'm Easy
Give Me a Man with a Nose
Barbara Allen
Zuleika
Rose of San Antone
The Barring of the Door
Logs to Burn
The Hawk and the Crow
Thanksgiving Prayer
Windmills
Oor Hamlet
Sammy's Bar Revisited
Plains of Waterloo
The Verdant Braes of Skreen
Caledonia
Fear a Bhata [and another Scots/Gaelic song]
Here's Hoping
Country Life
Sweet is the Melody
Midnight on the Water
Gartan Mother's Lullaby
For the Beauty of the Earth
Ding Dang Dong Go the Wedding Bells
Piano Leg [Broken Token-2]
Hi Jolly the Camel Driver
Uncle Dave's Grace
Let's Go Where All the Crowd Goes
The Rasta Masta
Pretty Boy Floyd
Courting in the Kitchen
Dark-Eyed Daughter
How Can I Keep From Purring
Someday Soon (Retired version)
Where Have All the Flowers Gone
Crazy
Amazing Grace (in Gaelic)
Lay Down Beside Me
Yorkshire Song
She Didn't Dance, Dance, Dance
Dying at Home
Nancy Whiskey
Ballad of Charlie David
My Lady of Autumn

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 26 Nov 20 - 10:40 AM

Well done Gerry. I wonder if singers could make an effort to start off by naming their song. I don't get much out of a long rambling intro if I don't know what song they are talking about. And Gerry's not the only one taking notes, lots of us are collectors wanting to add to our bag .

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 03:48 PM

One of the great mysteries to be unveiled every week, is the location of pattyClink. One week, she was in Arkansas. Last week was Arizona. Where next? She's welcome to park her motor home in Joe Offer's driveway in Applegate in the Sierra Foothills of California.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 05:16 PM

the hawk and the crow should be,, two strings to a bow, from kevin mitchell

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 06:01 PM

Thanks, Sandman. At https://afolksongaweek.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/week-261-the-hawk-and-the-crow/ it's called The Hawk and the Crow, but it says

"I learned this from one of my absolute favourite singers, Kevin Mitchell, via his 1977 Topic LP Free and Easy. Kevin calls it ‘Two Strings on a Bow’, and he learned it from Anne Brolly of Dungiven, County Derry. The LP notes say

American singers call this song The Bird’s Courtship or The Leather Winged Bat."

So evidently this is a song of many titles.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 10:46 AM

Joe O, I wish I had known there was a friendly face in Applegate in 2018! Tried towing a trailer over the Donner Pass on a 95 degree day. Made it to Emigrant Pass before boiling over. Had to be towed all the way back down to Auburn. Bad couple of days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 29 Nov 20 - 11:31 AM

pattyClink if you are working backward through the alphabet, does that mean you will be in Alaska on Monday and Alabama the following week?   After that, do you go forward alphabetically, or revert to Wyoming?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 29 Nov 20 - 06:55 PM

SPB, that is a brilliant plan! Alas, I have no plan.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Nov 20 - 04:07 PM

62 total today. And the singing is lovely.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 03 Dec 20 - 11:12 PM

Here's my list of songs that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 30 November / 1 December 2020. I came in a little late, so I missed a few at the beginning. I'm not at all sure I got the right title (is fada liom uaim I) for a song Martin Ryan sang. Ed Silberman sang a short song which I took down as Drink Canada Dry, but I'm not at all sure that's right. David Allan Coe recorded a song by that name, but I think it was a longer song than what Ed sang. I'm not sure whether Tell Me I'm Wrong is the name of the song Mel Barrett sang about a party he didn't like, so I've included some alternate possibilities. I totally missed the title of Hazel Richings' (first) song. I didn't get titles for Laura Martin's short Gaelic and Bulgarian songs. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks all welcome. Here's what I have:

Three Volcano Day
Carol for Twelfth Day
Senor Don Gato
The Clouds are Gwine to Roll Away
Duct Tape
Bill Bones' Hornpipe
The False Bride
Song for the Mira
A North Country Maid
Bring Us In Good Ale
For Ireland I'll Not Tell Her Name (in Irish Gaelic) (Ar éirinn Ní n-Eósainn)
Strangely Moved
Alabama John Cherokee
Home on the Front Range
The Ditchling Carol
A Most Unpleasant Way, Sir
Spare Hand
Lament
Cold Mountain
Transformations [Promeny; Czech version of Two Magicians]
Harvest Home
Carefree the Bird (Rew di ranno, in Welsh)
Shame and Scandal
Old Woman who Lived in a Wood
How Lovely are Thy Dwellings
Fathom the Bowl
Peaceful Harbor
We Ain't Gonna Give It Back
Far Side Banks of Jordan
Past Carin'
Bonnie Susie Cleland
Arthur McBride
Cold Coast of Ireland
Land o' the Leal
Quiet Land of Erin (Ardaí Cuain, in Irish Gaelic)
[Song by Martin Ryan in Irish Gaelic] (is fada liom uaim I) (?)
Give Me Your Hand [Thoir dhomh do lámh, in Scots Gaelic]
Drink Canada Dry [?]
Waltzing's for Dreamers
Better Times Will Come
The Rout of the Blues
Tell Me I'm Wrong [Tell Me I Blew it Again? All that Talk About Lionel? It Wasn't My Kind of Party?]
[Song by Hazel Richings]
Blood, Blood, Glorious Blood
[short song in Gaelic]
[short song in Bulgarian]
Time to Go
Song of the Soul
The Blizzard
Kentucky in the Morning
Wanderin'
Appletree Wassail
Rag Dance Song (La Guignolee)
South Australia
Lives in the Balance
She was a Sweet Little Dicky Bird
Blues Chase Up a Rabbit
Thanksgiving Prayer
Nevada Jane
The Family of Woman and Man
And the Band Played "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda"
Home Among the Gumtrees
Do Virgins Taste Better?
Dark Island
The Hielan Man
Old Colony Times
Dark Island (different lyrics)
Give to Me Your Dark Eyes (in Serbo-Croatian)
Fear a Bhata
The Scotsman
Safe Home
Lay Down Beside Me
The Farewell Shanty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 04 Dec 20 - 06:31 PM

Gerry - the first 2 songs sung were
The Key Of R
When All Men Sing

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 08:29 PM

Got sucked into a John Wayne marathon... Remember the big staged saloon fight between Kirk Douglas and John Wayne in War Wagon? Anyway the piano player is frantically plinking to keep the crowd happy and *what* he was plinking, I noticed, was ...

...The Clouds Gwine Roll Away, which I had just sung!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 06:28 AM

Joe, shouldn't the title be more key of arrrrr - which fits in more with folk stereotyping   ;)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 05:03 PM

No, SPB-Cooperator - that's the version they played on pirate radio!
...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:22 AM

Hey I have usually gotten the link by now? Oh and good morning.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 11:39 AM

Mrzzy, you're posting at 6:22 AM my time, and you're impatient? Didn't you get my email?

We hads an even fifty participants today. Another wonderful gathering.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 11:54 AM

I did not get the email, I thought that was what I said, sorry Joe!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 04:27 AM

Here's my list of songs that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 7/8 December 2020. I came in a little late, so I missed a few at the beginning. I need help on two titles. I've written "Hamble Bums" for a song Steve Belsey sang, but I'm pretty sure that's wrong. Elizabeth Block sang a song I've written down as "Mary Had a Baby – Who Was the Father?" but I'm not at all sure that's right. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks all welcome. Here's what I have:

Green Groweth the Holly
Sussex Drinking Song
Carol for the Twelfth Day
Little Boxes on the Monitor
Twas a Month Before Christmas
Sailing Down My Golden River
The Thermal Vest
Token Local Yokel
The Fisherman's Song
Bluddle-Uddle-Um-Dum (aka The Dwarfs' Washing Song)
Fairytale of New York (in Irish)
Rockin' My Baby to Sleep
Hamble Bums (??)
Ballad of Harry Moore
The Christmas Bells are Ringing
Neocortex
We Three Kings are Six Feet Apart
A New Year Carol (aka Levy-Dew, aka Residue)
The Manchester Chambermaid (aka The Christmas Goose, aka The Cornstalk)
The Stranger
Hot Buttered Rum
Bare-legged Kate
The Fatal Lozenge (Poem)
The Wine Song
Carolling and Crumpets
Come My Lads
Walk On Boy
Crudités
Moreton Bay
Deep River Blues
An Orkney New Year's Carol (aka Queen Mary's Men)
I'm Movin' On No. 2
Greensleeves
The Man that Slits the Turkey's Throat at Christmas
Happiness (poem)
Black Clothes
Mary Had a Baby - Who Was the Father? (?)
Come By the Hills
King of Rome
Mansfield Royal Visit
Mathematics
Where've You Been
John Ball
A'Soalin'
Carol of the Birds
The Bergen
Ashokan Farewell (instrumental)
Ballad of the Carpenter
Merry Christmas from the Family
Circle of Steel
Fourteen Million People
Sally Gee
The World's Worst Magician (poem)
God Rest Ye (parody)
Snowbird
The Galway Shawl
God Rest Ye Unitarians
Baby Born
There's a Song in the Air
So Here's to You

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 06:19 AM

I was 5th and sang an Occitan carol, Nadal tindaire (Jingling Christmas). Lyrics, translation, mp3, midi and sheet music at the link.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 07:39 AM

I was #3, and this is how things started:
Joe Offer - On A Monday
Pelagie - Deja Vu (poem)
Me - Homeless Wassail

after that you missed Monique and Waddon Pete, then possibly only one or two more before you got in.

I'm sure someone else will be able to fill in your gaps each week if you're late to the party.

Cheers!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 08:23 AM

As far as I remember, that is the right title - it is what I have always called it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 05:23 PM

Thanks for the information! Noreen was #1, didn't she sing? Wasn't there a Jody at #4? I did include Waddon Pete, he was #8 (there was no #7) and he sang the Sussex Drinking Song.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 05:37 PM

I think #4 had disappeared between Noreen and me because I was caught off-guard and didn't have the time to send Joe the link to the carol page before singing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 06:28 PM

Yeah that was it, Joe was 00, Noreen would've been #1 of course, then Jody #4 had decided to listen not sing, which is why Monique was caught off-guard, that's right, it's coming back slowly....

SPB-Cooperator, I took the title straight from Joe's chat post...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 13 Dec 20 - 03:19 AM

Fingers crossed, tomorrow will be my last visit this year. I should be back 11 January. Vesele Vanoce a Hesky Novy Rok.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 13 Dec 20 - 03:19 AM

Fingers crossed, tomorrow will be my last visit this year. I should be back 11 January. Vesele Vanoce a Hesky Novy Rok.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Felipa
Date: 13 Dec 20 - 03:03 PM

will the Monday night sing arounds continue into 2021 without a break? Christmas and New Year's Days are on Fridays this year. Do Joe and Noreen want time off, or will Mon. night sings go on as usual? After all, few of us will be going anywhere this winter I think.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 11:31 AM

Good question, Felipa. I think we should keep going, since none of the holidays are on Mondays. But we should ask what people think.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 11:19 PM

I'd like to continue. I'm not going anywhere, and the sing-a-rounds mean a lot to me.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mr Happy
Date: 15 Dec 20 - 09:14 AM

Echoing lenia's post, I'd also like to continue. I'm not going anywhere, and the sing-a-rounds mean a lot to me too!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 15 Dec 20 - 10:07 AM

I agree with Leeneia and Mr. Happy. If the team are willing, let's carry on. It does all those who participate a power of good!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM

I'm for keeping on keeping on too. Even the worst of new year's hangovers should be bearable by the 4th!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 09:57 PM

Here's my list of songs/poems/readings that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 14/15 December 2020. Thanks to Moorley Man for filling me in on what was done before I joined. I think the only title I didn't get was for the poem Andrew wrote & read about being kicked out of a poetry society for wanting poems to rhyme. Also, I'm not sure whether Hazel's second song is called "I'll Bring the Whiskey if You'll Bring the Wine", or "Old Friends". Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks all welcome. Here's what I have:

The Pickle Tree Carol
Raiders of the Lost Shark (poem)
The Mistletoe Bough
Dunster Carol
When You Are Old And Grey
Sir Greenbaum's Madrigal
Pastres Rintratz Vòstrei Tropèus (Shepherds, bring your flocks in tonight)
Jerusalem Cuckoo (aka I Am a Donkey Driver)
The Wexford Carol
Do You Hear What I Hear
Merry Christmas, Baby
(Do) The Rock of Ages
Lovers and Friends
Ar Gyfer Heddiw’r Bore (For the Sake of This Very Morning, in Welsh)
Come All You Jolly Mummers
Carol for the Twelfth Day
Of All the Birds
I Must Go Home Tonight
Tarry Flynn
Twas a Month Before Christmas (poem)
A Silent Night (Christmas 1915)
(When We Go) Rolling Home
The Galway Shawl
The Greatest Story of All
Now the Day is Over
The Death or Glory Wassail
Shepherds Arise
Lines Suggested by a Tennessee Song (poem)
Adeste, Fideles
The Potato Song
Send Me to Glory in a Glad Bag
Hanerot Halalu
Dark December
The Trees are All Bare
Auntie Julia
There's a Song in the Air
It's Better Than That
Amourette (formerly known as Exercise 77)
See Amid the Winter Snow (instrumental)
Hanukah in Santa Monica
(poem about free verse)
Bottle O' the Best
Fields of Athenry
Sam Small's Christmas Pudding
The Coventry Carol
Albert and the Lion
The Snows they Melt the Soonest
Vive le Vent (French version of Jingle Bells)
The Boar's Head Carol
I Wish You Enough
Darby Ram
The Carol Singers
Eibhlin a Run (Eileen Aroon)
Glory Hallelujah
A Christmas Carol (reading from Dickens)
While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks on Ilkley Moor
The Boys in the Back Room
Rock of Ages (Hanukah version)
The Latke Carols – First Carol
Zen Gospel Singing
When the Children Come Home
Jolly Old Hawk
Pat-a-Pan (aka Willy, Bring Your Little Drum)
Old Friends (I'll Bring the Whiskey if You'll Bring the Wine (?))
Mon Beau Sapin (French version of Tannenbaum)
God Rest Ye Unitarians
Rollin' Down to Bethlehem
The Parting Glass
Circle of Song

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 20 - 02:28 AM

Hi, Everyone - I've been having trouble with blind carbon copy, and I'm not sure you all got the email. Or maybe you got it twice. If a couple of people could let me know here that they got the email, I would feel better.


We have Solstice and Christmas and all sorts of celebrations. Let's celebrate them all and have a good time doing it.
The next Mudcat Worldwide Singaround is Monday December 21, at 8 PM London time. That's noon here in California, and 3 PM in New York, and early Tuesday in Australia and New Zealand. I had no idea what time it starts in Israel (Shlomo says it's 10 PM), but we have singers from there, too.
Come join us! We open doors half an hour before the scheduled time, sing for about 5 hours, and then chat until people are done chatting. All in all, it's a wonderful time. Some people just listen - that's OK, too. Hope you can come.


Link will be posted here a couple of hours before the singaround. If you'd like to be on the email list, contact me.

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 20 Dec 20 - 03:34 PM

fingers crossed I can work out how to get my mike on this time - and I think I need to do something with speaker? I really am such a duh when it comes to any sort of technology .....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 20 Dec 20 - 05:15 PM

Joe, I got it twice.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 05:07 AM

Sadly I won't be able to join you all tonight but wishing everyone a Happy Christmas and here is a link to my musical eCard I have made which is full of seasonal beer ....sorry cheer!!!
Enjoy!

Xmas card from Sarahtheflute

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 11:59 AM

Joe Offer is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround
Time: Dec 21, 2020 12:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 04:55 PM

For GerryM, late joiner, before you ask:
Tonight's starting songs:
Joe Offer - Candle (poem by Micca Patterson) then Merry Christmas from the family by Robert Earl Keen Jr
Pelagie Crofton - Poem: Global Warming & The Iceberg by Les Barker
David Kidman - Carol - Shepherds, Arise
Anne Gregson & Chris Timson - Green grows the holly (by Henry 8th)
Alison from Dunoon - Cold winter
Mrrzy - The Magnon, adapted from PP&M's The Magi
Tony Becker - Do virgins taste better?!
Noreen - Stannington (Sheffield carol)
then Jim Lucas... by which time i believe you'd joined??

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 07:07 PM

Alison's (from Dunoon) songs at the Solstice Session!

CAULD WINTER
Iain Ingram
Cauld Winter’s here again, and the days are short and dreary
Wi’ bitter winds an’ snaw, that aye chill the hearts o’ many
For some auld folk their plight’s a bare existence tae sustain
Wi’ scrimpin’ through necessity, and strugglin’ on their ain

Cauld Winter’s here again, aye severe an’ penetratin’
Nae quarter will it gie the hameless or forsaken
Nor pensioner who canny heat his hoose and eat an’ all
The frailest o’ society are aye the first tae fall

Cauld Winter’s here again, come are days when many suffer
In damp and draughty hames, on the road, doon in the gutter
A time when those wi’ troubled lives through hardship and despair
Need a helpin’ hand frae their fellow man tae greet the Spring once mair

Cauld Winter’s here again, ah but we’ve nae cause for girnin’
We’ve heat and comforts all, for it’s luxury we live in
Compared tae those o’ lesser means wi’ nae escape, nae favours free
Hinging oan tae life, prayin’ they’ll survive – or pey cauld Winter’s fee.

                _________________________

SUFFER THE CHILDREN
Eric Bogle

                Suffer the children to come unto me
                The man who said that died on Calvary
                And as we remember this day of His birth
                The children are suffering all over the Earth


From the African jungles to the hills of Vietnam
There are thin hungry children, black, yellow and brown
They’re starving to death on their millet and rice
And they don’t know Santa Claus, or Jesus Christ


                Suffer the children to come unto me
                The man who said that died on Calvary
                And as we remember this day of His birth
                The children are suffering all over the Earth


As you sit at your tables at this Christmastide
And you stuff the roast ham, and the turkey inside
Won’t you think of those children in lands far away
And the two thousand children who will die today?


                Suffer the children to come unto me
                The man who said that died on Calvary
                And as we remember this day of his birth
                The children are suffering all over the earth.

                        ____________________

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 10:54 PM

OK, so the post-singing conversation just ended. Total was 8 hours and 15 minutes, if you include the conversation. Singing was 5 hours. And it all was lovely.
Thanks for coming, everyone!
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 01:37 AM

Moorley Man, many thanks, as ever! I'll incorporate the info into my post, in a few days.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 06:21 AM

Sorry to miss last night: I had already done 2 Zoom sessions on the trot, so ended up watching “Oliver” on TV! Merry Christmas all!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 07:22 AM

Eight hours! Man, Joe, you've got impressive stamina. I had a good time though I couldn't stick around too long.

Zoom cut out a couple of times, and I had to rejoin. I don't know if I've got the settings wrong. I'm still learning to use the controls. I'll learn.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,John McGee
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 11:52 AM

Could someone put up the words of Clear was the Night as sung by Leeneia on 21/12?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 22 Dec 20 - 05:07 PM

John, I think that was Leeneia's own composition, so she's probably the only person who has the lyrics.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 12:49 AM

It's almost midnight, and I've just seen John McGee's request. Joe is correct; they are my own composition.

Tomorrow I'll start a new thread called Lyric Add: Clear was the Night and post the lyrics in it. What do you call it when an author disavows copyright? Common Cause? Copy Complex? Whatever it is, I'll put that notice on it.

I'm glad you are interested in the words.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,John McGee
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 09:53 AM

Thanks, Leeneia. John.

Subject: Creative Commons
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 07:01 PM

Leeneia
Creative Commons ?

This is the system I've seen quoted.
I don't know if there is more that you have to do than quote it.

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported
License.
To view a copy of this license, visit
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 07:08 PM

^ Creative Commons,,,

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 23 Dec 20 - 09:35 PM

Here's my list of songs/poems/readings that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 21/22 December 2020. I didn't get a title for Storm's song – I've given it as "Here's Hoping" which was a repeated phrase in the song. I didn't get a title for Hazel's second song – I've given it as "Here On My Island" (but it's not the song of that name from the Barbie movie that comes up on Google). Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here's what I have:

Candle (poem)
Merry Christmas from the Family
Global Warming and the Iceberg (poem)
Shepherds, Arise
Green Groweth the Holly
Cauld Winter
The Magnon
Do Virgins Taste Better?
Stannington Carol
Ode by a Christmas Pudding at Sea
The First Franksgiving (story)
Noël
Still Not Dead
The Jab Song (aka I've Had the Jab)
The Huron Carol
A Wee Drappie O't
Pussywillows, Cat-tails
Personent Hodie (in Latin)
The Good Old Way
Christmas in Jail
Christmas in the Trenches
Suburbs of Eden
Halsway Carol
Julian of Norwich (aka Bells of Norwich, aka All Shall Be Well Again)
My Love is a Tall Ship
Christmas at Sea
Clear was the Night
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
Summon Up the Sun
Gentle Night
(From the) Lambing to the Wool
Strolling Through a Summer Wonderland
I'll Lick Another Stamp for You
Hail Chime On
The Wheels on the Fatal Bus
The Wexford Lullaby
Comfort and Joy
The Ballad of Ben Dover
Banjos Roasting on an Open Fire
Angels and Shepherds
Ole Slew Foot
Lo, How a Rose E'er Blooming
Twelve Days Home for Christmas
A-Soalin
Eddi's Service (A.D. 687) (poem)
Light a Candle (story from The Singing Tree)
The Wexford Carol (aka The Enniscorthy Carol)
Here's Hoping (?)
Until the Dark Time Ends
Carry Me Over
Yorkshire Song
Phantom 309 (accompanied recitation)
Joseph Kinder (in German)
Suffer the Children
Merry Little Christmas
Leavin' Liverpool
Green Grow the Rushes, Ho!
A Virgin Most Pure
The Greatest Story of All
A Time Will Come for Singing
The Rose of York
Christmas in Prison
Leanabh an Aigh
Long is the Winter 'Til the Sun's Return
Dick Darby the Cobbler
The Little Cradle Rocks Tonight
ATale of Jesus (aka Baby Born)
Brightest and Best
The First Hanukah
Here on My Island (?)
Mojo Hannah
On Christmas Day
God Rest Ye, Unitarians
Gingerbread
Witch Hazel

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Gallus Moll
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 06:35 PM

The painted veil
1
I’ve seen small children die of pain and hunger
Those little sticks of human misery
And in this day and age I often wonder
How long it takes to end such tragedy
For something is wrong when we can close our eyes
or turn and walk away
chorus:

Lets change with the times
our reasons and our rhythms
reviewing how we think by what we hear
to live out our days in many different ways
will we still be the same this time next year
2
I tremble when I think of Hiroshima
Support the cause for mindless wars to cease
Condemn the men of power and ambition
And all who’d threaten everlasting peace
For God only knows there s’ so much to be done
We’ve sins enough to bear

chorus:
3
Beware of fools and words of doubtful wisdom
The hawk who masquerades as gentle dove
The bigot who professes to be Christian
And murders in the name of God above
To look at this world beneath the painted veil
May break your heart and soul

chorus:
4
Someday we’ll hear the voice of understanding
Though many years may pass without a sound
When suffering throughout the world is ended
And bitter seeds are cast on stony ground
When frontiers are gone and we are all as one         
When no man stands alone

chorus:   

Music and lyrics by Iain Ingram                                 

Song notes:
I wrote this song many years ago during the period known as
”The Cold War” .
While the threat of nuclear war has been greatly reduced,
the world in this day and age remains a dangerous place                                                                                                                                                          This makes the words of the song as relevant today
as they were when I first penned them

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Gallus Moll
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 06:42 PM

Freedom Come All Ye   
by Hamish Henderson

        
Roch the wind in the clear day’s dawin
Blaws the cloods heelster-gowdie ower the bay
But there’s mair than a roch wind blawin
Ower the great glen o the world the day.
It’s a thocht that wad gar oor rottens
Aa they rogues that ging gallus fresh and gay
Tak the road and seek ither loanins
Fer their ill ploys tae sport an play


Nae mair will the bonnie callants
Mairch tae war when oor braggarts crousely craw
Nor wee weans fae pit-heid an clachan
Mourn the ships sailin doon the Broomielaw
Broken families in lands we’ve herriet
Will curse Scotland the Brave nae mair, nae mair
Black and white yin till ither mairriet
Maks the vile barracks o their maisters bare


So come aa ye at hame wi Freedom
Never heed whit yon hoodie croaks fer doom
In yer hoose aa the bairns o Adam
Will find breid, barley bree an paintet room
When McLean meets wi his freens in Springburn
Aa they roses an geans will turn tae bloom
An a black boy fae oot Nyanga
Dings the fell gallows o the burghers doon

                                ___________________





FREEDOM COME A’ YE                 by         Hamish Henderson

During the early 1960s the Clyde and Dunoon were the scenes of many demonstrations against the arrival of Site 1, the US Navy’s nuclear base on the Holy Loch.

Hamish Henderson wrote what was to become one of his best known and most beautiful songs ‘Freedom Come A’ Ye, dedicating it    ‘for the Glasgow Peace Marchers, May 1960’
it is sung to Hamish’s adaptation of the pipe tune
‘The Bloody Fields of Flanders’. by Dunoon born Pipe Major John (Jock) McLellan DCM
The words are in Scots, yet the meaning is clear to all, and the song endures
now the ‘Roch wind’ is depicted as sweeping away oppression and war over the whole world.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 07:13 PM

46 people today. Pretty good for a holiday week.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 03:03 AM

I always hate it when these Monday gatherings end. Such good songs, such sweet people.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 04:29 AM

Sorry I didn't make yesterday's singaround. No single reason, just busy with this and that, even including posting on some other threads here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 04:56 AM

I'm sorry I didn't join lately, I'm on vacation with friends so no singaround. We're glad we still can tour around though we have a curfew from 8pm to 6am. So see you all on Monday!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 09:33 AM

Another great singaround yesterday!

Here for the Log-keeper (GerryM), who arrived a little later than starting-time, is a listing of the first few items performed:

Joe Offer - 2020 Is Almost Over by Larry Montgomery
Severn Savage - The disheartened ranger
Alison - The painted veil (? by Guest, Gallus Moll ?)
Pelagie Crofton - Macavity (poem by TS Eliot)
David Kidman - 3 Wise Women (Stanley Accrington)
Jim Lucas - You can't make a turtle come out by Malvina Reynolds
Richard Adrianowicz - Sandy boy
Robert Rodriquez - The holly & the ivy
Casey Casebeer - Young Waters (Child ballad)

I think Gerry had arrived by then...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 12:15 PM

re Painted Veil, I believe the phrase w\s first used in a sonnet Lift Not The Painted Veil by Percy Bysshe Shelley. It was later used as a book title by Somerset Maugham, and more recently as a film title. Not sure where Iain heard / read it - I'll ask him!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 04:25 PM

Moorley Man, thanks as ever for filling me in!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 11:16 PM

Here's my list of songs and poems that were performed, in order, at the Singaround on 28/29 December 2020. I think this is everything. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here's you go:

2020 is Almost Over
The Disheartened Ranger
The Painted Veil
Macavity (poem)
Three Wise Women
You Can't Make a Turtle Come Out
Sandy Boys
The Holly and the Ivy
Young Waters
The End of Another Year
The Lag's Song
San Antonio Rose
The Wabash Cannonball
A Thousand Songs
My Grandfather's Ferret
The Banks of Sullane
By the Blackthorn on Doolieve
The Frozen Logger
Hood 2001 (poem)
Friendship
Good King Wenceslas
A Guid New Year to Ane an' $A'
Big Mama (poem)
Ode to the Little Brown Shack
New Year's Eve
Already Dead
Good Riddance
New Year's Octet (poem)
Sands
Please to See the King
Rich Man, Poor Man
The Gift of Song
Drive the Cold Winter Away
The Restroom Door Said, "Gentlemen"
The Lowly Carpenter
Ruins By the Shore
Mariner's Hymn
Freedom Come All Ye
Spot of the Antarctic
The Wexford Carol (aka The Enniscorthy Carol)
Mary Had a Baby
The Door of the Year
My Father's Mansion
Walking in My Winter Underwear
I Still Miss Someone
Dance With the Dragon
The Miner's Dream of Home
The Farmer's Carol
Donny Be Gone
The Rose
A-Soalin'
You've Been a Friend to Me
Birches
Safe Romance
The Lady of Song
The Toast Song
The Innumerable Christ (poem)
Poor Lazarus
The Wren
We Are
Mary Did You Know (Jennifer Henry version)
Jack the Slob and the Goddess of Love
Brandenburg Gate
Loud Sing the Carol
The Woes
Woven Through Herringbone
The River Where She Sleeps
The Master of the Sheepfold

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 11:38 PM

Well, I kinda like the idea of random wisecracks....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: wendyg
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 12:38 PM

So how and what time does one join this thing?

wg

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: maeve
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:01 PM

From an earlier post by Joe Offer:
8 PM London time. That's noon here in California, and 3 PM in New York, and early Tuesday in Australia and New Zealand. I had no idea what time it starts in Israel (Shlomo says it's 10 PM), but we have singers from there, too.
Come join us! We open doors half an hour before the scheduled time, sing for about 5 hours, and then chat until people are done chatting. All in all, it's a wonderful time. Some people just listen - that's OK, too. Hope you can come.
If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, [e-mail]


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:54 PM

Happy New Year, Everyone!
Our next Mudcat Worldwide Singaround is Monday, January 4. It starts at 8 PM London time, 3 PM in New York, and noon in Los Angeles. People in the rest of the world are smart and can figure out the time for themselves, but I do know that we're on Tuesday morning in Australia and New Zealand.
Doors open for cocktails and conversation half an hour before, and we start singing on the hour. We sing for about 5 hours, giving everyone the chance to sing two songs.
Hope you can join us.
I emailed the invitation just now, and I'll post it here a couple of hours before the singaround. I change the link every week to try to avoid evil zoombombers.
-Joe-

Wendy, if the email address is correct on your Mudcat registration, you should be on the email list and should have received an email.

for people who didn't get an email, you can join the list by emailing [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 12:17 AM

Please send the link to join the Singaround. Thanks, Maureen [e-mail] Referred to me by the Seattle Folk Song Group

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 01:35 PM

Our Prime Minister is due to give a televised address at 8pm today where he is expected to announce a further lockdown, so I will have one ear on that.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:24 PM

For Gerry M's listings:
Here's the first few items from today's Zoom Sing, before he joined:
Joe Offer - Wasn't that a mighty storm?
Alison - Mormond Braes
Barrie Mathers - Ballad of Jed Clampett
David Kidman - We'll sing hallelujah
Mrrzy - Richard of taunton
Monique - The will (in French)
Leeneia - Stewball
Noreen - (Please to see) The king

Cheers!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:48 PM

Another lovely singaround. Thank you, everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 10:59 PM

Thanks, Moorley Man – will incorporate into my notes.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 04:10 AM

Here's my list of songs (no poems this time) that were sung, in order, at the Singaround on 4/5 January 2021. I didn't get a name for Patty Clink's parody of Dylan's My Back Pages. I'm not sure that Bring Me My Dull Old Pants is the right title for Rusty Dobro's take-off on a song from Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here you go:

Wasn't That a Mighty Storm?
Mormond Braes
Ballad of Jed Clampett
We'll Sing Hallelujah
Richard of Taunton Dean
The Will (in French)
Stewball
Please to See the King
Seven Nights Drunk (aka Seven Drunken Nights, cf Our Goodman)
Bring Me My Dull Old Pants (parody of Any Dream Will Do / Give Me My Colored Coat)
Past Carin'
Mr Fox
V'chitetu Charvotam (And They Shall Beat Their Swords, in Hebrew)
The Body Piercing Song (parody of I'll Tell Me Ma)
The Year Turns Around Again
Queen Elinor's Confession
The County Line (aka We Moved the Line)
The Fishfinger Song
The Schmuck Song
Three Score and Ten
Mollymauk
Brightest and Best
Snow Flurry (in Russian)
Bonobo Wannabe
Piano Leg (Broken Token-2)
The Creel
Across the Great Divide
Witch of the Westmoreland
It's a Miracle
Mary Parker's Lament
Clerk Colven
The Doffing Mistress
The Iron-Moulder's Wedding
I Fall to Pieces
Da Day Dawn
O Wee White Rose of Scotland
Cherry Tree Carol
Will the Circle Be Unbroken
Rollin' Down to Bethlehem
Northern Tide
The Hour that the Ship Comes In
The Braes O' Appin
Lullaby
It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Naptime
Molly Bawn
You Can Close Your Eyes
Mary Had a Baby
Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
Chestnuts Blaring Through the Shopping Mall
The Music of Strings
If I Ever Sing a Love Song
Brandy Tree
Bless This House
Soon May the Wellerman Come
Don't Call Me Early in the Morning
? (Parody of My Back Pages)
January Lullaby
Alfred the Alligator
The Holly and the Ivy
Sancta Bega
Grandma Song
Homeless Wassail
Old Black Joe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 06:16 PM

Gerry - I learnt my song from the late Monty Parkin as ‘Marks and Spencer’, but on reflection, perhaps it should be ‘Any Title Will Do’.......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 02:13 PM

Yeah, Joe got distracted. Plumbing emergency.
Fixed.

Doors are open. Y'all come.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!
From: pattyClink
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 03:04 PM

Went thru the 'join meeting' log in drill, and it still says "please wait for the host to start this meeting--start 12:00 pm Mudcat Worldwide Singaround.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!
From: pattyClink
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 03:10 PM

I was able to get in. Passcode error, my fault. Never mind!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 08:26 PM

Looks like we had 53 people today, and it was a lovely gathering. Somebody requested that we not sing political songs, and I said that was not a request I could honor. That person left. That's too bad. We had a few political songs, and a lot of others. I would say that the atmosphere wasn't overly political, but we generally don't suppress anything. We let people choose whatever songs they want to sing.
We limit conversation so we can get in lots of singing, but we really can't ban political songs.
Thanks for coming, everyone.
-Joe-

Subject: ADD: Lullaby for a Whaler's Child/Sailor's Child
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 04:33 AM

Lois Shiner sang a lovely lullaby she wrote:

Hi Joe, re the song today, well, yesterday.
Here's the music, not chords, but notations of notes.
A la Rise Up Singing
Copied below, the first verse.
Lois Shiner

>    G       G G      A    G    G
> Hush    Lit-tle    Sai-lor Boy
>
>   G       G    G      A      G    G   
> Hush    Lit-tle    Wha-ler's Boy

> (hiC)C C    B    C   D   C A G    (All C's in this line are hi C)
> Don't cry for your Dad-dy at Sea
>
>   G    A      A#   A    F    E
> He's on - the seas sai-ling
>
> D    G       A    G    E    C    (Middle C)
> He's out - there a'   wha-ling
>
> E    G    A    G    F E    D    C   (Middle C)
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>
> Hush Little Sailor Boy
> Hush Little Whaler's Boy
> Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
> He's on the seas sailing
> He's out there a'whaling
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>


Lyrics only:

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on - the seas sailing
He's out - there a' whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on the seas sailing
He's out there a'whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 11:33 PM

Here's my list of songs and poems that were sung/recited, in order, at the Singaround on 11/12 January 2021. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here you go:

Here's to the State of Richard Nixon
Penny for the Ploughboys
Que Vous Etes Beau
Old King Cole
If (poem)
We Sing Hallelujah
Weeping in the Promised Land
Banana Republics
Lincoln Park Pirates
Month of January
The Shearer's Dream
The Lambton Worm
She was Very Fond of Dancing
Lili Marlene (in Irish and German)
Johnny Macree (poem)
In and Around Nashville (aka Uncle Dave's Travels, Part 3)
Bring Us a Vaccine
Kissin' in the Dark
Poor Murdered Woman
Found My El Dorado in My Backyard
Remember Me
Until the Dark Time Ends
The Farm Auction
Gardening
The January June
Broken Heartland
I Ain't Nobody in Perticular
The Long Arms of Love
Ceres and Pluto and Eris
There is a Time
Power and the Glory
Reedy River
Lullaby for the Whaler's Child
Oh, Mary Don't You Weep
She's Someone's Grandmother
Nevada Jane
Jimmy Murphy
Wayfaring Stranger
Call to Song
The Dream Tree
Silver Whistle
A Stor Mo Chroi
Luckiest Sailor
Tom Paine's Bones
Let Me Down Easy
The Far Side Banks of Jordan
The Broken Token
Philadelphia Lawyer
Noah's Ark Shanty (aka A Long Time Ago, aka In Frisco Bay)
Garden Song
The Possum Song
Keep My Skillet Good and Greasy
Way Down in North Carolina
A Chat with Your Mother
Nobby Hall
Blank Space
The Charladies' Ball
The Demon Lover (aka The House Carpenter)
Mhairi Bhan
Rose Bay Ferry
Before They Close the Minstrel Show
Take a Chance
Lolly Too-dum
Windmills
Bonnie Wee Lassie (aka Bonnie Wee Window)
Why Does It Have To Be Me?
House of the Rising Damp
Night Visiting Song
The Knitting Song
Hobo's Lullaby

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 05:33 AM

Just one correction from me Gerry. "She was very fond of dancing" is properly titled, "The Calico Printer's Clerk".

I also thought I should thank you for your work in generating this list every week. It's appreciated.

Pete

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:49 AM

Thanks, Waddon Pete. I don't think I have editing privileges here, but I'm no less grateful for corrections.

---

Editing privileges? That's a good idea. Gerry and Casey and Noreen now have editing privileges on this thread, and I thank all of them for their contribution to making this weekly singaround possible.
-Joe-