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BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?

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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 08:14 AM

" Is he murderously psychopathic? "
Several of the senior bobbies in both 'Between the Lines' and the eponymous 'Bancroft' were serial killers
Eat your heart out Norman Bates (or should that be Hannibal Lecter?)
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 08:02 AM

'Murderously Psychopathic' sounds terrible and dangerous'
Let me put this concept into one of normal and 'accepted' behavior:

Many white guys perform a ritual of going into the woods armed to the teeth to kill an animal, not for survival but for sport. If you ask me its not a fair fight. The hunters patiently track an animal after being alerted to its presence at long last. If the animal starts to run they may get off a shot or two and may only hit their prey in the back and exclaim "GOT HIM" . When the hunters come accross the carcass they may give it a kick to be sure it is dead and is not uncommon to even stand upon their prey. For a white guy who grew up hearing black people are animals and have that notion reinforced by others around him as well as incidents that further dehumanize black people in his eyes, the white guy actually comes to believe black people ARE animals. Is he murderously psychopathic? No he was culturally trained to kill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 02:27 AM

British TV has a proud history of examining its forces of 'Law and Order' going back decades, from the early days of the ex- policeman, G F Newman's dramas, to the present 'Bancroft' and the terrifying 'Between the Lines'
'Dixon of Dock Green' and 'Z Cars' were somewhat quaintly bland, but the highly populer and long-running 'The Bill' took on corrupt and murderously psychopathic bobbies head on
Even our hospital soaps are now giving us killer doctors - what is the world coming to !!!!
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jun 20 - 12:01 AM

I'm hearing about various television fictional police procedurals being considered for cancellation, but so far I think it's just speculation. The "reality" program COPS was on the air for 30 years (and I never watched a single episode). It's toast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Jun 20 - 08:42 PM

And, apparently, Mrs. Butterworth is not far behind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Jun 20 - 03:40 PM

Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben are down, and out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jun 20 - 07:40 PM

Trump is trying to cover his ass with a tissue of "executive order" that is meaningless. His orders can only apply to federal officials or agencies, and his suggestions are half-baked. His followers are getting exactly what they want.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 20 - 04:42 PM

Mitch McConolL says of the House bill that legislates against red lining, no chokeholds and institutional racism, "WE WILL HAVE NONE OF THAT !"


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 20 - 03:05 PM

A Presidential order today to reform the police makes no mention of race in word or concept.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 04:47 PM

My fav cartoon is of a ufo saucer jerkily bouncing off the road, trees,   and roofs.
captioned: Nooo Release the clutch s-l-o-w-l-y
off topic


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 02:58 PM

Cartoon in "Punch", c. 1975, showed two American policemen, armed with handguns (one of which was smoking) and arguing over a body in the gutter:
"That's not fair; it was my turn to over-react."
Not off-topic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 01:55 PM

There are policemen who have anger problems and will kill with impunity when provoked. There are even people who seek to become police so that they can become legal serial killers. I've mentioned it before but I knew a former DC cop, psychopath and serial killer of young black men/children. He loved to intimidate by retelling his murders by mentioning the sounds his victims would make.

Yes there is cultural allowance and protection for killers in the PD but there is also the mentally abhorently ill. The cop I knew was kicked off the force after 3 murders as his only punishment.
(3 'known' murders)


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 12:52 PM

More hope with a slapdown of trump and his bible thumping constituents as the high court upholds LGBTQ rights under the law-

CNN

Off topic but so what.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM

I am having high hopes here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 11:00 AM

Johnson has been forced into launching an enquiry into racial inequality in Britain
A start
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 10:27 AM

"Rayshard Brooks was shot twice in the back, according to a release by the Fulton County, Georgia, Medical Examiner's Office.

Brooks died from organ damage and blood loss from the two gunshot wounds, according to the office.
The autopsy, performed on Sunday, lists Brooks' cause of death as gunshot wounds to the back. The manner of death is listed as homicide.'

From CNN

Now, we wait to see if charges are filed.
Guilty of not driving drunk. Or being a pain in the ass in a parking lot. It was Bart Simson sort of stuff that, in no way, should have ended in someone's death. Opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 10:14 AM

Things seemed to be going along peacefully in that Wendy's parking lot in Atlanta until the cops tried to cuff Rayshard Brooks, to a black man in Georgia, or anywhere else in the U.S. these days, that act may have seemed like a death sentence on it's own.
The Fulton County D.A. has the officer crying out "I got him" after the shooting which pretty much negates any self-defense plea.

dailymail.co.uk


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Jun 20 - 12:20 PM

Police officers in Georgia have killed another African American man, and residents in California question the death—suicide or murder—of a young man found hanging in a tree (hanged himself or drugged and lynched).

The man in Georgia, Rayshard Brooks, fought arrest and tried to flee. That shouldn't result in a death penalty. The man in California, Robert Fuller, was swiftly declared a suicide by officials, but toxicology tests may offer a different answer.

It feels safe to say that a broad swath of America, still in the confines of COVID-19 lock down on Memorial Day, was paying attention and awoke to the crisis of police officers murdering black men with impunity when George Floyd was murdered. They awoke to the fact that the punishment doesn't fit the perceived "crime" - it isn't about allegedly having a counterfeit $20 bill, or falling asleep in a drive-through line, it's about walking or driving while Black.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Jun 20 - 11:50 AM

Geesh, don't stop at your coat, get your luggage and passport as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 20 - 11:41 AM

If you have a black liver, it matters. Death is on the way.
But I'm not worried since I've been Faucinated. Thats where Dr. Fauci spits on his hand and shakes yours.
Its Trumps birthday and he wants a massacre at his Tulsa Rally. He would love to have 72 lives blown out, one for each year old


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 01:16 PM

We took Traveller MIkeen McCarthy to see the Cutty Sark one evening when we were recording hem
He gazed down at the keel of the ship in the dock and said, "Jeez, that copper's worth a fortune"
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 11:58 AM

Apart from any debatable historic and sentimental value,
what's an average statue worth as scrap metal...???

Some in the UK have been stolen by criminal scrap salvage gangs,
but, obviously not as many as we'd like to see gone...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 11:35 AM

Jim I wouldn't expect you to ever be happy. You know too much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 10:37 AM

"up to the governments and citizens to decide. "
Aye - there's the rub
What if the Government want to keep them and the citizens think they should go ?
Not sure I wouldn't be happy to keep the statues if the government went
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 10:20 AM

There is a wealthy collector in the North Dallas enclave of Highland Park who intentionally grabs up these often rejected statues. History abounds inside Harlan Crow’s home - actually, inside and out, because many of them are too large for indoors. My university library has an organized "Friends of the Library" group that toured there a few years ago. Stalin is outside and is huge. Collecting Despots, Assassins And Such. Both of these are from the Dallas Morning News, so there may be a paywall if you try to view more than just a couple of articles. Here's a Google search on images of his museum's statues.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 09:01 AM

The reenactment of what happened on June 19th in TULSA OKLAHOMA is in the beggining of the movie 'Watchman'. A massacre of over 300 innocent black people by the KKK and others took place.
Come June 20th bodies laid in the streets and homes.
They say Covid 19 isn't political but this time there is an air of revenge in the air.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 08:41 AM

There are living statues and dead statues.
Living statues are of people we know.
Dead statues are unknown or of great antiquity.

To display Hitler, Stalin or confederates and rebels is up to the governments and citizens to decide. To kill living statues is up to them.

For the Taliban to destroy dead statues of great antiquity serves no will of the people or religious political motive imo.

America has no dead statues. That losers of the civil war had so many statues was to placate the people who suffered the loss at that time.
We don't have those people alive anymore except for the few who still want slavery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 08:35 AM

Twit has moved his Tulsa rally to the 20th due to public outcry at the original Juneteenth date while Oklahoma is having a surge of COVID19 cases.
OKLA has largest single day number of COVID19 cases

They're going to pack in as many rednecks, sans masks no doubt, as they can but it's okay, because they have to agree not to sue trump or the venue if they get the virus.
btw, twit compared his advocacy for African Americans to that of Lincoln yesterday in a Fox News interview and Honest Abe came in second.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 07:31 AM

and Little Milton, one of my favorites,Frank Stokes, Memphis Minnie and those great jug band musicians from Memphis like Gus Cannon, Will Shade, Noah Lewis, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Neil D
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 07:14 AM

Deford Bailey, Carl Perkins, Sequoyah, Pat Summit, Oscar Robertson, W C Handy, Bettie Page, Bessie Smith


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 06:23 AM

Dolly should certainly be celebrated but there are other Tennesseans worthy of a statue like Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, Chet Atkins, Carl Rowan (the late liberal columnist for the Washington Post and political commentator) and Elvis, though he was born in Mississippi he resided in Memphis for most of his life, though I don't know how you'd connect any of them to a Civil War battle site where I'd imagine some of that statuary would be replaced.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 05:43 AM

It'll keep falling forward Dick
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 01:46 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jack Campin - PM
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 05:28 PM

Great idea from Tennessee!

Put Dolly Parton on a pedestal! quote jock campin
but the silicon might bust out


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Jun 20 - 01:43 AM

Downloaded an enhanced and denoised version of Gone with the Wind - 8gb file! We shall see what all the fuss is about, but looking forward to seeing the 1860s ladies!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 08:55 PM

The Democratic party is the "blue" and Republican (GOP) is "red," so red states and blue states show what party is in power in their governments. Several that were considered red, including Texas, are close to purple, meaning the large cities are far more liberal than the rural parts of the rest of the state and are close to tipping the scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 05:28 PM

Great idea from Tennessee!

Put Dolly Parton on a pedestal!


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 04:50 PM

I'm wondering if USA will soon be named DSA, i.e. Disunited States of America, or Dismantled or Disinformation or Disgruntled or Disappointed or ... or ... or ...?

Or in the case of the BLM protesters and supporters of a more equal, just and fair society, Determined or if they want to stick with the USA brand name then it could be Undeterred, Unfaltering, Unflinching, Unhesitating or Unwavering.

(In case you are wondering, I just looked up the thesaurus for inspiration.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 04:43 PM

I reached the lowest of all low ebbs in Bridgwater in August 1990 one fine afternoon. I'd cycled to there in two and a half days from Bury. I'd had a bad morning, taking a wrong turn after I'd crossed the bridge from Chepstow and cycling for miles round bloody Avonmouth by mistake. I was confronted by a seriously terrible hot headwind over the Somerset Levels. Got to a park in Bridgwater, totally knackered, many miles from my day's objective, Exford on Exmoor. Phoned the missus (in those phone box times) in near-hysterics, saying I needed rescuing (it's only two and a bit hours from Bude). She demurred and told me to bloody man up. Bravely, I obeyed, ate two pork pies and made to it Exford in a ball of sweat. Thanks for letting me share...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 04:38 PM

Helen - yes, I had to consider that particular American peculiarity...

.. and hoped I made it clear enough..????????

At the moment the UK is still the UK..

..not yet "UKA, the nation formerly known as the UK"...

Though it's not too far off that we get sold out to trump's mob,
and have to adopt all their deliberately contrary new world ways..

At least their racists and our racists are almost one and the same
since they took to the internet to co-ordinate trans Atlantic...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 04:12 PM

pfr, I suspect that when you say left is red and blue is conservative our US friends might be a bit confused, however in the UK and Oz, red has always been associated with our Labor parties and blue with the conservative parties.

"Bridgwater [further down the west lands from Bristol]
is a similarly defiant progressive red oasis
lost in the midst of a surrounding vast conservative blue desert..."

In the US, the colours/colors are the other way around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 03:40 PM

Right now that the latest trendy craze is statue toppling,
my old lefty mates in the historical rebel town of Bridgwater
have needed to issue a press story,
stating that their town statue is innocent..

.. and can righteous angry anti-racist protesters please not interfere with it..

https://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/news/18512976.dont-topple-blake-statue---right-side-history-claim-bridgwater-historians/

American mates - An anomaly of language in the UK,
is that facing due North,
the further left you travel from London,
the more right England becomes...

Bridgwater [further down the west lands from Bristol]
is a similarly defiant progressive red oasis
lost in the midst of a surrounding vast conservative blue desert...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 12:26 PM

They probably couldn't afford the tickets anyway, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 11:41 AM

Trump flew to Dallas, Texas, yesterday to "discuss race issues" with locals. Yet he excluded the top three African American officials:

"The White House defended the snub of Dallas Police Chief U. Reneé Hall, [Dallas County] Sheriff Marian Brown and [Dallas County] District Attorney John Creuzot, insisting the president would still hear a diversity of views." (from the Dallas Morning News) These are the people who were on the ground, making the decisions.

Police Chief Vernell Dooley of Glenn Heights, a town of about 13,000 south of Dallas, urged the president to support national standards on use of force by police, and databases on use of force and terminations, because “we need to be able to get those bad apples out of our industry, so what happened will never happen again."

The visit was built around a $10 million campaign dinner at the Preston Hollow mansion of billionaire Kelcy Warren, CEO of Energy Transfer, which built the Dakota Access crude oil pipeline. Two dozen donors ponied up at least $580,600 per couple for a meal and souvenir photo with Trump.

And it came amid heightened tensions nationwide since the May 25 death of George Floyd, a black suspect pinned by the neck for nearly nine minutes under the knee of a white Minneapolis police officer now facing a murder charge.

“What happened two weeks ago was a disgrace,” Trump said — immediately adding that protests and looting in the days that followed Floyd’s death also were a “disgrace” that would have been averted with a more forceful response. His vision, he said, is “force with compassion.”

Digging in on a stance that he acknowledged infuriates critics, he added that “we have to dominate the streets,” prompting applause from an audience curated by the White House.

Trump has demanded a military crackdown on protests, boasting again on Thursday morning about his stroll last week to a church near the White House, where he brandished a Bible as cameras clicked, after military and federal police used pepper gas and rubber pellets to clear protesters.

He's still working on branding, so he throws ideas against the wall to see what will stick. That "force with compassion" is the latest bullshit attempt.

Trump's real reason to be here was the campaign fundraiser, of course, he tacked on the "talks" to disguise that real reason. He spoke to a bunch of people in a prosperous area of town in a large church - churches are one of the main vectors for COVID-19, so maybe he'll finally get some first-hand experience with the novel coronavirus.

[Dallas] Mayor Eric Johnson declined an invitation from the White House. Other black officials in the area were not invited, including the three Democrats in Congress who represent parts of Dallas: Reps. Eddie Bernice Johnson and Colin Allred of Dallas, and Veasey of Fort Worth.

Allred, whose district includes the Gateway campus that hosted Trump, noted that high rollers at the campaign dinner would get coronavirus tests from White House medical personnel that aren’t universally available at long-term care facilities or for business owners and customers.

“This is a slap in the face to Texans and people across the country who are still struggling because of our failure to have a national strategy," he said. . . .

Many prominent African American leaders in Dallas were not invited, despite the event being billed as a diverse gathering of faith leaders and law enforcement, among them the Rev. Frederick Douglass Haynes III, senior pastor at the influential Friendship-West Baptist Church.

Citing the scene at St. John’s Church last week, Haynes said he wouldn’t want to be part of a “dog and pony show."

The White House did ask David Wilson, a Dallas pastor and president of the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance, if he was willing "to be vetted” to meet with the president. He declined.

“I just can’t do it,” he said. “I really don’t want to hear the lies or be used as a prop.”

Trump lives in a world of "haves" and visited a place where most people are "have-nots." The optics of that visit aren't lost on people. In Trump's world, the only lives that matter are his own and members of his family.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Neil D
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 11:12 AM

Excellent show Helen. I like watching foreign news programs like BBC America News, seeing our situation from a different vantage point. Before my wife switched cable services I also had access to a French news channel and Al Jazeera.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 10:10 AM

Trump's new 'Klanlike' crusade on 'righting' history to show that America is historically white and blacks re "intruders" on that culture seem to have gone a step too far, even for the right
I listened to one of his supporters on Irish Radio this morning, first trying to justify it then throwing in the towel admitting that he was not only wrong, but is now losing the support of his party and those who voted them into office   
The interviewer's ability to reduce the Trumpeter to this made Carol Coleman's historical butchering of George W Bush at Dromoland a decade ago look like the blunderings of a cub reporter
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 09:36 AM

The people who are openly racist have been getting some positive strokes here in the US. Nothing happens in a society unless the majority of people want it to happen, and it seems like the tide has turned in many places. It seemed like that happened here when Obama was elected.
Twice
And then people weren't happy enough, so they didn't care about the slight inconvenience of having Trump as President. This is what apathy gets you. But perhaps, for big change to happen, we have to start from somewhere truly horrible. Most of the world seems to be coming together to make a stand about what's right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 09:19 AM

Here is an interesting map of the monuments...

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2020/06/mapping-hundreds-confederate-statues-200610103154036.html

Blicky


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 09:13 AM

USA or UK..

Folks who are still openly racist white supremacists
are at least, in a perverse way, to be acknowledged for their honesty..

Then there's the petty sneaky snide folks constantly mocking BLM's attempts
at protest for long overdue justice;
who are perhaps even more contemptible for their insidious need to diminish and obstruct positive progress.
While maintaining a public pretense facade that they care about all races...???

Those smug conservative "I'm not a racist.. but..." folks...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 07:38 AM

I see the Boy Scouts have mounted a guard over Baden Powell's statue
The Tories, at the behest of Patel, have threatened fast- track justice or protesters - maybe the sentence will be to be hanged by the woggle till dead
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Black Lives Matter - change on the way?
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jun 20 - 07:27 AM

Neil D, you have raised some worthwhile issues. Thanks.

I was just watching the latest episode of an Australian TV show called
Planet America's Fireside Chat and the presenters were saying much the same about confederate monuments and generals.

The show is related to Planet America

I don't know if the iView capability is available outside Australia so you may not be able to view it online.


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