Song for the racist who lost their job

Subject: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Kittybriton (visiting)
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 01:17 PM

Noticing (Oh dear! How sad! Never mind.) that racists are more likely to find themselves identified to their employers, and in most cases dismissed, prompted a friend to ask for a song.

I figured the helpful sorts on here could probably add a few verses along the same lines.

X:1
T:Too Bad You Are A Racist
C:Myscha Aiken
M:4/4
L:1/4
K:C
|: GGGD | DGG2 | GAAE | EA2 z |
w:Too bad you are a rac-ist, and now you're un-em-ployed!
w:You ought to know that certain things you real-ly should a-void;
G^FFF | ^FF2F | ED^DE | ^FG3 :|
w:It ought to make me sad, but in fact I'm o-ver-joyed!
w:You tell a man to "Come~here boy!" Of course he is an-noyed.
W:You're proud to be a racist, and now you're a pariah.
W:You neighbors wouldn't piss on you if you had caught on fire!
W:From interview to interview, nobody wants to hire.
W:They thank you for your interest, but show no real desire.
W:
W:Too bad you are a racist and now you have no job.
W:Your boss found out, and sacked you for being a racist knob.
W:Your wife has known for years, but you would not shut your gob.
W:Perhaps you'll find an opening with a racist Rent-A-Mob.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 02:29 PM

What the fuck are you talking about FFS ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 02:48 PM

You need to read the words of the song, Dave, and link them to the news about it being likely for you to get fired if you make racist posts on t'interweb.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 03:11 PM

The thread title gave me incorrect expectations
before reading the contents...

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 03:42 PM

Example

Charge filed against woman who called police on black birdwatcher

The woman "lost her job and dog after the incident, and publicly apologised".

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Kittybriton (visiting)
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 08:12 PM

humblepologies for sowing confusion

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 08:57 PM

That's ok, we only had to read the lyrics to understand your intention.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 09:38 PM

I'd be open minded to a similarly dark comic song
celebrating the poetic justice of prominent covid deniers
dying from contracting the disease...

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 10:29 PM

pfr, for inspiration for that theme check out the Darwin Awards .

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 11:32 PM

thanks for the link, Helen, I'd almost forgotten what fun the Darwin awards are -

(2009 winner) "I wonder what gets into a guys head to make him shoot at a high explosive.... I guess the answer is shrapnel."

& thanks to Kittybriton (visiting) for the initial post, I do like dark comic songs - & Darwin awards.

sandra

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 12:10 AM

Hi Sandra, that reminds me of one of my favourite Terry Pratchett one-liners. A couple of people and the wizard are falling through the air and the ground is coming up fast to meet them so they are getting frantic. The wizard says (as I remember it without looking up the exact quote), "Sometimes I wonder what goes through the minds of you mortals", and one of the others says, "It will be our feet soon if you don't do something fast!"

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 10:36 AM

I'm sure that Darwin awards existed before Darwin, we just didn't know what to call them!

For the Victorian who leaned in to check the dusty coal scuttle with a lighted match.

For the Napoleonic guard who stood in front of the line of cannons to wave his sword at the enemy.

For the logger who sawed the inside of the branch he was standing on.

For the miner who thought the canary died of laryngitis.

For the inquisitioner who misphrased his interrogation and inadvertently cursed the wrong savior.

For the stonecutter who mis-spelled 'Hammurabbit' at the bottom of the inscription.

For the caveman not clear on how to cut the stone at the cave entrance.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 11:18 AM

"Here lie Covid Deniers; convinced they knew best and scientists are liars..."


well.. it's a start.. and not too bad for a few minutes creative thinking
sat on the bog...

Inspired by that dangerous dickhead couple in Florida..
..who as of last night's news reports were still breathing...

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 04:50 PM

Or then there is that passionate young woman who was recently telling some committee or other that masks are "literally" killing us. She then went on to ask why Bill Gates isn't in prison yet and further conspiracy-related rants.

Sorry Kittybriton (visiting), for the threadcreep. We know it is off-topic but it kind of relates to your topic in that people who think they know what is "really" going on in the world can get it all the wrong way around.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 05:00 PM

Just noticed my post is missing a line I wrote...???

should have been...

"Inspired by that dangerous dickhead couple in Florida,
leading "1% death rate" anti mask protest demonstrations..

..who as of last night's news reports were still breathing..."

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 08:19 PM

Come on folkies...be open minded.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Gators are a good pick ub round #1

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Helen
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 09:20 PM

Open minded about people who are racist, Gargoyle? No thanks!

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 03:50 AM

Worked well enough for Corbyn, Long-Bailey, Livingstone.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Joe G
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 04:17 AM

.....and a huge swathe of the Conservative party including their current leader

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 07:32 AM

This thread is buggered now the right-wingnuts have found it...

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 07:51 AM

On the contrary pfr - merely an accurate and well balanced observation, I am under the impression that the draft report into the investigation of the Labour Party by the Human Rights and Equalities Commission has been handed to the Labour Party for comment before the full report is made public in one months time.

In response to Joe G what "huge swathe"? As far as I am aware the current leader of that particular party, returned to office on the 12th December 2019 in a landslide giving them a majority in the House of Commons of 81 still remains to be the leader of that party and the Prime Minister of the Government of the United Kingdom.

It is rather revealing that neither of the two commentators referred to can even countenance that "racism" exists on both sides of the political spectrum - rather dangerous that.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 08:03 AM

That proves it.. the thread is buggered...

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Joe G
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 10:58 AM

I have never said that racism cannot be from both left and right. I didn't even challenge you accusations of racism towards three Labour MPs - though I do not believe eithe Corbyn or Long Bailey are racist - not sure about Ken Livingstone as I do not know enough about him.

What you seem to be saying Observer is that because the racist Boris Johnson is Prime Minister that racism is ok because people voted for him. Suggests where your sympathies lie - as if we didn't know already.

As well as racism, Islamaphobia is rife in the Tory party.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 11:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the colonies:

“Hitler said, “because the white [sic] Jews knows that the Negroes are the real Children of Israel and to keep Americans secret the Jews will blackmail America.

They will extort America, their plan for world domination won't work if the Negroes know who they were.

The white [sic] citizens of America will be terrified to know that all this time they've been mistreating and discriminating and lynching the Children of Israel.

They will fear God will destroy them as he destroyed Egypt for doing the same thing, So the Elite, the Illuminati keeps this thing a secret at all cost….”
[Berkeley University alumnus; American footballer and BLM spokesman/advocate Desean Jackson]

His alma mater is stone silent about what they teach; his employers are “disappointed,” but only reservedly so and his movement tacitly agrees. Yay team!

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 06:52 PM

To get back to the OP, the woman wasn't in trouble for being a racist; she got in trouble for making a false claim to police that a man had threatened her in the park when he done no such thing.

"Today our office initiated a prosecution of Amy Cooper for falsely reporting an incident in the third degree," said Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance on Monday.

"We are strongly committed to holding perpetrators of this conduct accountable," Mr Vance said. He also encouraged "anyone who has been the target of false reporting" to contact the district attorney's office."
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Racism may have led her to fear him or despise him, but she got in trouble for making a false report, and that would have happened no matter who the victim was. I wouldn't want an employee like that, would you?

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jul 20 - 07:19 PM

If any more posts are made about philosphy and racism in general, and NOT about the song, I think this should be moved to BS.
...and that we realize people can't stick to talking about music.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 06:21 AM

Very much taking what Jeri has stated:

1. No mention in the OP, the lyrics posted, of anything related to a woman, a dog, a bird-watcher. Those elements were introduced further down the thread by Helen with no obvious connection to the OP. The person being referred to in the song in the OP would appear to be MALE.

2. Rather strange that a third person gets to determine whether a person feels threatened, that a person can suffer penalties that greatly affects their livelihood before any prosecution is made let alone any judgement is decided upon.

3. Having read the BBC article linked by Helen, I have a question - What is a "Karen" [As in "when Karens take their dogs for a walk"] - is this some new generic term for a white woman? If so is this acceptable?

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 09:35 AM

I am against racism, but why would i wish to sing this song, firstly what is the tune
secondlyif i want to sing a song about racism , i would choose a song like "strange fruit" which is well written however i doubt if i would make as good a job as billie holliday did, or then we have a song like bourgeoise blues
Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swingin' in the Southern breeze
Strange fruit hangin' from the poplar trees
Pastoral scene of the gallant South
The bulgin' eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burnin' flesh
Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather
For the wind to suck
For the sun to rot
For the tree to drop
Here is a strange and bitter cro

Lord, in a bourgeois town
It's a bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Gonna spread the news all around
Home of the brave, land of the free
I don't wanna be mistreated by no bourgeoisie
Lord, in a bourgeois town
Uhm, the bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Gonna spread the news all around
Well, me and my wife we were standing upstairs
We heard the white man say "I don't want no niggers up there"
Lord, in a bourgeois town
Uhm, bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Gonna spread the news all around
Well, them white folks in Washington they know how
To call a colored man a nigger just to see him bow
Lord, it's a bourgeois town
Uhm, the bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Gonna spread the news all around
I tell all the colored folks to listen to me
Don't try to find you no home in Washington, DC
'Cause it's a bourgeois town
Uhm, the bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Gonna spread the news all around
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Huddie Ledbetter
In my opinion these are well written songs on the subject of racism

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 09:38 AM

the song was written by a black man lead belly and he is using the word nigger for a reason,
i would normally not use the word nigger, is that clear..

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 09:45 AM

Hamish Imlach used to do a wonderful version of BT...what a performer and what a great picker.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 10:29 AM

Observer, I suggest figuring out how to use Google to answer questions such as "What is a Karen?" It could prevent possible embarrassment by having to ask people to explain, and you'll look smart.

Dick, the original posting is an ABC file, and the tune is included. https://www.mandolintab.net/abcconverter.phpThis site has a converter, you just copy and paste the ABC file in, and hit "submit".

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 11:03 AM

Thanks for the "heads up" on the term Jeri, I'd never heard, or seen, it before:

"Karen is a pejorative term ....... As of 2020, the term was increasingly being used as a general-purpose term of disapproval for middle-aged white women."

So what are the other pejorative, general-purpose terms of disapproval that people are permitted to use without comment.

If I recall Hamish Imlach's recorded version of "Bourgeois Blues"

He sang:

Well, them white folks in Washington they know how
Pay a coloured man a nickel just to see him bow
Lord, it's a bourgeois town
Uhm, a bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues
Spreadin' this news around"

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 12:44 PM

Saw Hamish do it live often Observer, cigarette stuck in the headstock, and one "just under the eight"

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 02:45 PM

You make a very good point regarding the "Karens" I had never heard it either.....must be an American expression.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 04:36 PM

Actually, "Karen is a pejorative term used in the United States and other English-speaking countries for a woman perceived to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is considered appropriate or necessary. A common stereotype is that of a racist white woman who uses her privilege to demand her own way at the expense of others. Depictions also include demanding to "speak to the manager", being an anti-vaxxer, or having a particular bob cut hairstyle. As of 2020, the term was increasingly being used as a general-purpose term of disapproval for middle-aged white women."

Whenever I've heard it used, it was to refer to the racist, self-important variety of woman.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jul 20 - 04:44 PM

I have never heard of the phrase , i have never heard it used in the uk or ireland,

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 12:05 AM

I gather the collective noun is, a privilege of Karens. Pretty funny, until you remember there are actual women named Karen, most of whom do not fit the stereotype, and would have good reason to be offended.

I'll stop here, before I dig myself in deeper.

Subject: RE: Song for the racist who lost their job
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Jul 20 - 01:16 AM

yes, good points Gerry, it is offensive as is Apparently the term Becky.And it is offensive to any mudcat members or guest who have that name.