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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Charmion Date: 09 Jan 22 - 04:26 PM I read the American news every day with a sinking heart; Canada is a lot closer to the USA than any other nation except Mexico, which already suffers severely from the proximity. I can't be the only up-to-now fairly good person who heartily wishes that Mr Trump would just wake up dead one day soon. There's never a major cardiovascular accident around when you need one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 09 Jan 22 - 03:02 PM If not a treaty how about an Armistice?- or is silence consent. answer to Observer. If removal from ever holding office again can be done without proving a crime punishable by incarceration it would be preferable and avoid any martyrdom. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jan 22 - 11:58 AM Another view from this side of the water from The Observer (the Sunday version of The Guardian) entitled The Observer view on Joe Biden’s Capitol Hill anniversary speech The piece praises Biden for finally taking off the gloves but it calls for every sinew to be stretched to nail Trump legally in order to stop him from standing in 2024. It's a lengthy read, but it ends: “The legal path to investigate the leaders of the coup attempt is clear. The criminal code prohibits inciting an insurrection or ‘giving aid or comfort’ to those who do, as well as conspiracy to forcibly ‘prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law’,” veteran Harvard constitutional law expert Laurence Tribe wrote recently. It’s a widely held opinion. The many documented actions of Trump and his circle in attempting to overturn the 2020 vote provide numerous grounds for criminal investigation and prosecution. Why is Merrick Garland, the attorney general, still dragging his feet? Biden can righteously rage. But the best antidote to toxic Trump’s dangerously lawless spree, and fears of civil war, is the law itself. Take him down – before it’s too late. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 09 Jan 22 - 05:58 AM It is like saying "yes Karl Rove and Vice President Cheney & daughter are correct" BUT Steve is right, a fascist undemocratic USA is a threat to allies. Steve is not the only one late to the party, there are perhaps 70 million Americans who know not who Trump is. For me this calamity started twelve to twenty years ago and others would say since 1865. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 08 Jan 22 - 08:39 AM The high court looks like they will now be eliminating the 50 year old OSHHA law that protects the public and will deny Biden's health mandate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jan 22 - 07:12 AM Anyway, back to the fray. Increasing numbers of Republican politicians are buying into the stolen-election lie. Republican states are rewriting voting laws in order to make it difficult for minorities and the poor to vote. Biden's approval rating is rock-bottom, lower than any president at this stage bar Trump. He talks and looks like an old man, and there's no obvious Democrat successor in sight. He was badly damaged by the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan (even though it was largely not his fault). So far, no step has been successfully taken which would disqualify Trump from standing in 2024, and, if he's still around then, I can't see any alternative Republican standing, unless we want to rely on Ms Cheney. Wow. The midterms are coming later this year, and, bar a miraculous turnaround, they will leave Biden a lame-duck president. A lame duck that might well have to take on Trump next time around That's how it looks from over here. Call me Mr Simplistic and tell me that I don't "get" US politics (but don't tell me to keep my nose out, not because I'm clamouring for my free speech but because what happens in 2024 is going to affect the UK and the rest of the planet as much as it affects the US). We have a massive problem in this country also. Trump back in power will also empower the illiberal right-wing here. Between them, Trump and Johnson are more than capable of unravelling western democracy, starting in 2024. That's everybody's business. A good read on the Trump threat is in the Guardian: The Trump menace is darker than ever - and he's snapping at Biden's heels by Jonathan Freedland. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Jeri Date: 07 Jan 22 - 09:31 PM Look at this thread. Count the posts by Donuel, and by Steve, and notice how many are off-topic. Donuel provokes you, Steve, and you never fail to react. One wonders what would happen if this cycle were broken Of course, I don't think the thread has much purpose other than sniping. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 22 - 12:20 PM I don't know why but the military branch of choice for extremists has been the airforce. Better than army demolition experts I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 22 - 10:51 AM Similar to today half the country thought making war on Fort Sumpter was a great idea and the majority half thought it was horrific. A bloodless coup of making all vote counting a republican process is at odds with your average Joe Bully making death threats and rioting at school boards and State Capitols. During the Obama years many new facist militias and Klans were formed. Their favorite members are Tim McViegh like military veterans. Releasing the mob is like releasing the Kraken, it will go out of control. It will be defeated at the cost of more violence than first anticipated. That is, if the future rhymes with history. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 07 Jan 22 - 09:02 AM I'll try this bit again, on its own. It's the editorial from Wednesday's Guardian and it represents one view of aspects of US politics from this side of the ocean. The threat to American democracy may be greater today than when the insurrectionist mob swept into the US Capitol one year ago, attempting to prevent the peaceful transfer of power following a free and fair election. Joe Biden is ensconced in the White House and with the passage of time, the shock of their lethal assault has faded. But if the danger appears less immediate, addressing it is no less urgent. We know more than we did a year ago about the full violence and menace of the riot, and about what preceded it – including the PowerPoint presentation turned over by Donald Trump’s chief of staff Mark Meadows, detailing ways to stage a coup. Rioters have been jailed, but so far no case has been brought against those who encouraged and incited them. Mr Trump himself has resurged, with a cult-like grip upon his party. He and his allies have longer to plan for this year’s midterms and 2024. State legislatures are constructing an election-stealing machine. In short: 6 January was not an end, but a beginning. Listen to the warnings from America’s political scientists. One says that the US is “closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe”. Another warns that the insurrectionists of 6 January are not part of a fringe: he sees a new mass political movement with violence at its core. Others foresee a slide to Hungarian-style competitive authoritarianism in which the trappings of elections remain, but so rigged that Democrats cannot win. Faced with an electorate that has rejected them, the Republicans have already entrenched their advantage in the electoral college, Senate and supreme court. Yet it is Republicans who claim that the system is cheating them. A vast swathe of the population is now detached from both political reality and political ideals – believing the 2020 election stolen, and believing that force is an acceptable response. “Alternative facts” have become mainstream belief: according to a recent poll, 68% of Americans think there is no evidence of widespread electoral fraud in 2020 – but 62% of Republicans disagree. While 60% of Americans think Mr Trump bears either a “great deal” or a “good amount” of responsibility for the storming of the Capitol, 72% of Republicans say he bears “just some” or “none at all”. Another survey found that 9% of Americans believed that “use of force is justified to restore Donald J Trump to the presidency”. It is hard to know where one might begin to tackle the sprawling rightwing disinformation ecosystem. The aspiration to a policy response to the political chasm – the Build Back Better Act – has been killed by Republican opposition, with the aid of conservative Democrat Joe Manchin. He and fellow Democratic senator Kyrsten Sinema will also tank the fresh push on voting rights if they remain opposed to amending the filibuster. Meanwhile, Republicans who attempted to rein Mr Trump in on 6 January, or publicly criticised him afterwards, have long since fallen back into line. In 12 short months they have rewritten history. Their hostility to the select committee investigation, rushing to report before November’s midterms lest it be closed down afterwards, is another attempt to silence the truth. Last year’s tidal wave of voting restrictions at state level continues, and election sabotage is gaining ground, with Republicans giving legislatures control over vote counts and replacing nonpartisan officials with Trumpists. Against these are ranged the steady, committed efforts of activists, politicians and ordinary voters to defend their rights and protect their democratic institutions. More political violence is likely in future, not least because the GOP elite have helped to legitimise it. Senior Republicans have not merely made their peace with Mr Trump and his tactics, but embraced them. Next time, such efforts might gain support from within the services. Yet the deeper threat may be that force will not be required. The dismantling of American democracy could be bloodless: quieter, more sophisticated, more cynical – and nonetheless devastating for it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 22 - 08:15 AM Speaking of egregious you feel superior to Americans in the same way some whites here feel toward blacks imo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 22 - 07:37 AM I am not the somnambulist. Given the choice of being ruled by the Violence Party or the Peace Party I still have faith the American people will wake up and realize the con. During the W Bush administration people woke up when Wall St was allowed to take their homes. Racism was the issue many celebrated in Trump. They may wake up again. The LIE is what people want to hear. The awful Truth is a bitter Pill to swallow. Republicans now deny the insuurection ever happemed - it was the FBI or Antifascists. They know silently that if they don't hang together they could hang seperately, as Ben Franklin said. The solution to a bad leader is a good leader. Lincoln did not deny Gettysburg happened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 22 - 07:13 AM The New Yorker has run its article today "Are we headed for a Civil War" I have warned all for over 15 years right here that civil war is possible along with bio war and other fates. Shaw does say I am obcessed with Trump and I'm barking at the moon I say he is the one obcessed with self. The New Yorker is a little late in my book. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Jan 22 - 10:36 PM Stuff it for a while, Shaw. You're not proving anything and you're clearly not reading the in-depth stories about this process. You can worry about Boris. This is a bottom-up operation, the low-level folks are rolling on each other and on the planners. Every t must be crossed and i must be dotted to get this prosecution to go forward. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jan 22 - 06:48 PM You yanks are sleepwalking into impending disaster. You've nailed nothing on Trump, and his following is uneroded. Biden is an old man. He sounds and looks like an old man. He'd be 86 by the end of a second term. Bloody wake up, yanks. The world depends on you not re-electing Trump. From this end, you look paralysed and your politics looks infantile. Prove us wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 06 Jan 22 - 04:03 PM There is a thin line, no, a knife's edge between fearing the violence to the point of preparing to do counter violence and ignoring accountability of insurrectionists. Jefferson said he would prefer a country with journalists and no government over a government with no press. Media has suffered along with the entire country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Rain Dog Date: 05 Jan 22 - 12:17 PM The following programme was just broadcast on BBC Radio 4. The Media Show "Did the storming of the Capitol damage US media? A year on from the storming of the US Capitol and the media is still coming to terms with what happened. Some US news outlets have been accused of "obsessing over" the scenes on 6 January 2021. Others have condemned parts of the media for "normalising" the violence. So how can these divisions be healed? And in the week that several political figures were banned from Twitter, what role do the tech giants now play in our democracy? Guests: David Folkenflik, Media Correspondent at NPR; Robert Costa, Political Reporter at the Washington Post and co-author of Peril; Susan Ferrechio, Chief Congressional Correspondent at the Washington Examiner; Chris Stokel-Walker, tech journalist; Zing Tsjeng, Editor-in-Chief at Vice UK." The tech giants certainly do have a very powerful role with their ability to ban elected officials from their platforms and their control of how media outlets are able to use the tech platforms to spread their news and views. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 05 Jan 22 - 08:26 AM Minority rule by technicality is what Republican think tanks are good at. Perhaps they are studying a take over of our nuclear missiles, Courts, Governors and armed forces by 'technicality'. Wait a minute, they already tried that on Jan. 6 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jan 22 - 12:02 PM Greene got her ass kicked off of Facebook also. But this is window dressing, compared to the groups that need to be eliminated from the site. FB knows who they are, but their eyeballs bring in dollars. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 04 Jan 22 - 11:47 AM The undecided voter is extinct. They are replaced by the secret bigot. Once Trup can control elections and arrest any opponent at will like Putin, it could take a generation for the Republic to re-emerge if ever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and who it Effects From: Donuel Date: 02 Jan 22 - 12:12 PM It is obvious who is unaware of the peril this country is in. They are MIA. Regarding a dictator taking over the US it is very possible with the support of the entire Republican party. But not so fast... It is more probable for racist reasons than for nazi ideology. While the reps and dems are still playing political wind testing, actual response to voting restrictions could have been done already. Naturally the catter bigot willing to file a false police report for personal political reasons wants secrecy unlike everyday trolls like the OCD man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Jan 22 - 12:11 PM Marjorie Taylor Greene, the congressperson from Georgia who has no committees because she was stripped of them after past misbehavior, has finally lost her personal Twitter account. NPR story. On Saturday, Greene tweeted a screed about the public health measures imposed during the pandemic, criticizing many of the efforts health officials say were critical in preventing more deaths from the virus and slowing its spread in the U.S. Her pronouns are problematic in that last statement. It sounds like she is saying that she doesn't need America. That sounds about right for this woman. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jan 22 - 03:17 PM We keep hearing about this new Trump media company that (in one version) is going to try to clobber all of the traditional media outlets (television and print magazines with a web presence). He still can't broadcast or publish in most of those places, and he wants to supplant the traditional news sources with his own. How he plans to carry off this fantastical plan is anyone's guess. I just went looking for any projections of the launch date (to hear some folks talk it is already working, but not that I'm aware of) but find it has been missed: Trump SPAC social media company appears to miss its first product deadline was published exactly one month ago by CNBC. Wikipedia entries are edited by interested parties so I imagine this contains some of the party line, so to speak. They say the company launched in February 2021, but it's still only on paper as far as I can tell. News back in early December was that Devon Nunes would resign from the House of Representatives as of today to lead the group, but I don't see news of that happening yet. A good place to start reading about this is at the Washington Post, they've been all over the story with news and opinion pieces. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 31 Dec 21 - 06:23 PM "Here endeth the lesson...." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 31 Dec 21 - 04:33 PM The quote is "Magic mirror on the wall..." The story goes that the wicked witch's gardener overheard her appealing to the mirror. After she'd left the room he sneaked in and intoned: "Mirror mirror on the door Make my penis touch the floor..." It worked: his legs dropped off... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 31 Dec 21 - 02:28 PM I'm pretty sure Trump is positioning himself for a Presidential run. (Thank you, Mitch Macconnell for making that possible). And by positioning I mean posturing. He has come out as strongly favoring the vaccine. And emphasizing his vital part in Operation Warp Drive (He was breathing at the same time as world medical infrastructure was developing the vaccines). This drew a rise out of Alex Jones. I will not go further with Jones as he is a danger to OPM (Other Peoples' Minds). But he declared that Trump might actually be 'evil'. I am thinking of working on a Venn Diagram of Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, and Donald Trmp scanned over the qualities 'CRAZY' 'EVIL' 'POLITICAL' but that is better left to others. I was in a conversation with a definitely rational friend who tends to be more conservative than me and who classified Trmp as EVIL which even I am hesitant to do. I don't find BS and greed to be evil in themselves. Maybe I need to rethink that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 31 Dec 21 - 12:20 AM Back to 86: "If only he had used his reflections for good!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 31 Dec 21 - 12:19 AM Jan-6-panel-urges-supreme-court-to-deny-trump-bid-to-shield-records |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 27 Dec 21 - 05:56 PM Barbara Feldman is very talented and beautiful. Each of us have a different camera; mine has a wide angle lense, robo's camera is variable focus and Steve has a swallowable camera that traces the journey of all that he cooks and eats as well as a phone camera that only takes UK political pictures. Dr. OZ weight Loss Pill snake oil salesman is running for Pennsylvania's Senator. He is a New Jersey Trump supporter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 26 Dec 21 - 01:14 PM Don'l: Zees ees KAOS! Vee Don't do nozzing but eastern block pawaphwaziss here!! Robo - who dated 99 before she settled down with 86. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 26 Dec 21 - 08:38 AM Trump reminds many of Valdemort but robo's beloved gang leader reminds me of an immature Draco Malthoy. I don't expect either pays for wapo so be thankful for entry without a paywall. When Trump saw the Producers written and directed by Mel Brooks and learned a flop can earn more money than a hit, his future was made. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 25 Dec 21 - 06:48 PM KAOS secret agent robomatic was the frequent nemisis to Max and agent 99 on Get Smart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 24 Dec 21 - 03:23 PM I would say "I rest my case." but why pile on a pylon? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 21 - 10:01 PM Fake shell corporations that traded on the stock market joins Trump Media company. Trump now has 300 million from donations in the media company that has no employees except Kevin Nunes. In 2017, the SEC suspended trading in Atlas Technology International, a company that had gone public in 2014 as an in-home bakery called Sweets & Treats but which said it transferred to new owners two years later, changing its name to Atlas and shifting to touch-screen devices. The business was allegedly part of a “fraudulent scheme” to manipulate the markets by a California businessman named Ahmad Haris Tajyar, according to an SEC complaint, which this year charged Tajyar with securities law violations. Operating four online brokerage accounts in different names, Tajyar allegedly bought and sold Atlas shares with himself to create the illusion of an actively traded business, the SEC said in its August 2021 complaint against Tajyar. He also allegedly staged an earnings call with a friend posing as a Wall Street analyst asking questions about the business and allegedly paid a professional investment analyst to write research on the company, the SEC complaint said. In its regulatory filings, Atlas listed Arc Capital as a creditor that had provided Atlas with loans of more than $80,000. But in a 2017 declaration by an SEC staff member, the agency said Tajyar and the principals at Arc Capital may have been “undisclosed control persons” for Atlas. The logo for Atlas appears in one of Arc’s promotional brochures on a list of its “public listing” clients. Two of the former Arc employees said Arc had worked behind the scenes as an adviser of Atlas, providing marketing materials and financial models. One of the former employees said he worked on the deal but was taken off by his managers when he started asking questions about why its office address pointed to an L.A. parking garage and why he couldn’t meet with any of its executives in person. This year, a judge permanently enjoined Tajyar from selling or promoting stocks as a result of his role in Atlas. Tajyar accepted the judgment without admitting or denying the allegations. He did not respond to requests seeking comment. Arc was not named in the SEC’s complaint, and it’s unclear whether the SEC is still investigating the firm for its alleged role in the Atlas scheme. Trump deal rides SPAC boom The Trump deal is part of a recent boom in SPACs, which are seen as an easier way for some businesses to go public without the same expense and scrutiny of a traditional IPO. In these deals, a SPAC, also known as a “blank check” firm, holds a public offering to raise money from institutional investors. When the SPAC’s management team identifies a private company to merge with, the SPAC’s investors are given the option of approving the deal and receiving equity in the newly public company — or taking their money back and walking away. According to data published by New York law firm White & Case, 181 companies went public via a SPAC merger in the first nine months of 2021 — up from 93 in all of 2020 and 26 in 2019. Trump’s new social media SPAC is soaring. Also, what is a SPAC? Arc Capital and an affiliated firm, Arc Group, have attempted to capitalize on this investment wave, becoming an adviser to at least 15 blank check companies in recent years, according to a review of regulatory filings. On several SPAC deals, including Digital World Acquisition, Arc has served as the sponsor, which is usually the firm that puts up the initial capital to hire lawyers, brokers and a management team in exchange for getting a sizable portion of the company that ultimately goes public. Not all of the deals work out. Yunhong International, a blank check company Arc once described as a “successful SPAC listing” in a promotional brochure on its website, said in a filing last month that it would dissolve and return money to investors because it failed to meet its deadline of finding a start-up to acquire within a set time period. This type of requirement is unique to SPAC deals and probably will cause many deals to dissolve in the coming years, financial industry experts said. Yunhong and Digital World, the blank check firm planning to buy Trump Media, are both led by a CEO named Patrick Orlando, a former investment banker based in Miami. He did not respond to requests for comment. Many of the same executives, hedge funds and bankers appear repeatedly on Arc’s SPAC deals. Earlier this year, one of the investors in Yunhong claimed in a lawsuit that Kingswood, an investment bank that has been the underwriter for several Arc SPAC deals, is partly owned by Cinta. The investor claimed this was an undisclosed conflict of interest, since Kingswood was supposed to be acting impartially when it brokered deals with outside investors. Lawyers for Benchmark, the parent company of Kingswood, said in a court filing that the investor “failed to substantiate” the claim that Cinta was an owner of Kingswood. Representatives for Kingswood and the Yunhong investor did not respond to requests for comment. In June, Kingswood changed its name EF Hutton, taking the moniker of a famed, century-old investment bank. In a news release, Kingwsood said it had secured the rights to the trademark and consulted with the grandson of one of EF Hutton’s original founders. Kingswood or EF Hutton are listed as the underwriter on all 15 of the SPAC companies where Arc is listed as an adviser. EF Hutton is the “exclusive placement agent and capital markets adviser” to the Trump SPAC, filings show. Digital World said in a filing that EF Hutton would receive a $25 million commission for pitching the deal to investors. The bank helped prepare the slide presentation Digital World and Trump Media submitted to regulators as part of its proposal. The slides indicate that Trump Media expects to generate billions of dollars in revenue by competing in a number of different industries — social media, streaming, podcasting — but it has not announced any fully-formed products or services. They also include the first name and last initial of 30 possible staffers, along with the logos of 33 of their employers. But they provide no further information, making it difficult to identify the people or their experience. Last week, Trump Media also announced it would partner with Rumble, a YouTube rival popular with conservatives, to deliver streaming content to its yet-to-launch social media platform. Rep. Devin Nunes to leave Congress to become Trump media company CEO It’s not uncommon for SPAC merger candidates to make bold promises light on details; they are often young companies with little or no revenue. Companies going public through a SPAC have more latitude to paint a rosy picture of their prospects compared with traditional IPO companies, which must have all of their financial statements and projections vetted by auditors and reviewed by regulators, securities lawyers said. Still, the lack of specifics in the Trump slide presentation was “hilarious, even compared with other SPACs,” said Michael Ohlrogge, an assistant law professor at New York University who has researched SPAC transactions. “So far, it’s vaporware,” said James Angel, a professor of finance at Georgetown University. The true test will come after the merger, when shareholders will expect Trump to use the money he has raised to build a formidable business, he said. “Now that our ex-president has a billion-dollar war chest to play with,” Angel said, “it remains to be seen if he can actually build a successful media franchise.” This is dry reporting. I prefer my to the point POV. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Dec 21 - 08:40 PM Spot on, robo. I love you, baby (a seasonal quote from my favourite Christmas song...). I'll say no more as ganging up, oh so easy, is not my thing... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 21 - 08:18 PM I warn that I am not a linear person. Humor is truth but not always factual, Commentator is factually biased and poetry has an artistic license of exaggeration or being understated. After countless moons its too bad I can't call you a friend but happy hollowdays all the same. I think your theory is lame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 23 Dec 21 - 07:12 PM What I'm on about is to say what I mean without using unnecessary words. Those who want to fabricate meaning by a plethora of nouns and modifiers which might or might not amount to anything can be entertaining without being informative. They can also stimulate ideas much as a computer can be programmed to randomly combine words which the mind might not. Donuel is a constant commentator whose comments may or may not be factual. In this he precisely imitates the Former Occupant. And as the Former Occupant did not perceive himself as evil, but as a hero, this might possibly be the self-image of our thread imp. I am not concerned about what either Doneul or the other Don understands, because I'm not a mind reader. I have observed a willingness on the part of both those folks to spout BS and seek and or expect approval for same. I learned a long time ago that the enemy of my enemy ain't my friend. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 21 - 08:14 AM When something goes right its hardly reported Its hardly reported and just goes away When something goes wrong its talked about strong Its talked about strong and seems here to stay |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 21 - 07:34 AM Raw pagan authoritarian godfather dictatorial litigious conman and ignorant Trump knows no partisanship besides loyalty to himself. I do have a movable POV that can take a picture from any angle like a 3D laser scanner at times. The rest of the time is just random brain droppings. There is no cause that mob law is ever correct or just, but Donald is happiest when he can get the mob to do his bidding. What I don't know is what robo is on about at times which is fine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Dec 21 - 09:04 PM There's a huge difference in motivation, Robo. Keep that in mind. And Don tends to understand more about the ideas he comes across and shares. Trump is trying another lawsuit, but it's not going to fly. It's just taking so damned long to put him out of commission, with everyone in his camp dragging their feet and taking the Fifth. I was curious about the status of his residency at Mar A Lago, so did a search. Palm Beach town attorney John “Skip” Randolph determined that Trump qualifies as a "bona fide" employee of the Palm Beach resort and is therefore entitled to live there, according to the Sun Sentinel. This from a Tampa Bay television channel's news website. Do you suppose he really wants to leave his Florida golf resort to live in the White House again? If he were to win again he'd probably find a way to stay in Florida most of the time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 22 Dec 21 - 02:32 PM Donuel: The nice thing about having you around is you are a constant reminder that the methods and thoughts of Donald Trmp know no partisanship. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Dec 21 - 09:28 AM robo: "My great concern is not whether you have failed, but whether you are content with your failure." --President Abraham Lincoln "You have to do your own growing no matter how tall your grandfather was." --President Abraham Lincoln "Give me six hours to chop down a tree, and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe." --President Abraham Lincoln "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." --President Abraham Lincoln "We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses." --President Abraham Lincoln "I don’t think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday." --President Abraham Lincoln "Avoid popularity if you would have peace." --President Abraham Lincoln "People are just about as happy as they make up their minds to be." --President Abraham Lincoln |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Dec 21 - 09:21 AM Julius Ceasar did it, Hitler did it and Trump America wants to do it again. Whenever people make politics after a religion of a fevered furor they eventually end up with a knife in their gut. I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts, and beer. As for religionists they trust that God is on their side. It is more important to know that we are on God's side. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 20 Dec 21 - 09:10 AM The Trump Tower memorial and Pyramid plans are on hold after Melania suggested the White House Rose Garden for his final resting place. :^/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 20 Dec 21 - 07:33 AM How do you solve a problem like Joe Manchin? How do you catch a cloud and pin it down? How do you find the words that means Joe Manchin? A Big Pharma hero! A Fox News guest! A clown! Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him Many a thing he ought to understand But how do you make him stay And listen to all you say His rock hard promise has turned into sand? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 19 Dec 21 - 09:12 AM Our goverment is a three legged stool of Executive, Congress and Supream Court. Supreme Court justices now serve on average longer on average than at any point in American history (28 years) and are gaming their retirements. Life tenure gives justices the perverse incentive to stay on the court until a President with whom they tend to agree sits in the Oval Office, meaning some hold onto their seats past their intellectual primes and wait until the “right” person is elected to the White House to retire. Life tenure has turned nominations into a political circus. It’s no longer a priority to find the best candidate for the job who will serve with integrity and who has broad life experience. Instead, the party in charge scrambles to find the youngest, often most ideological nominee (who, at the same time, knows the right things to say at a confirmation hearing) in order to control the seat for decades to come. The Constitution says Federal judges serve as long as they display good behavior. It doesn't say for they serve for a lifetime and what the hell is good behavior?? It was obvious bad behavior when The currwent Court started taaking away freedoms and established law. First they said the old voting law can be cancelled since there there is no more racism regarding elections. Now states are on ther own and do not have to obey Federal voting law of the past. Second they are taking away Roe V Wade law. It has been slow but the Court used to only grant new or ammeded rights but now they are going backwards for thr first time. Thats bad behavior isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 19 Dec 21 - 08:44 AM Three US Generals warn of a 2024 insurrection and a break in the chain of command between the Army and National Guard. They do not think the riots are as dead as Disko; Everybody, storm the Congress, let's riot Don't fight the feeling, get out and fight it fake, fake, fake, fake fake fake Fake election, fake election Oh, fake fake fake, fake fake fake Fake mailed ballots, fake mailed ballots Oh, you can, you can do it very well You're the best in the world, I can tell Oh, fake fake fake, fake fake fake Fake election, fake election Oh, stop the steal, stop the steal Fake Joe Biden, fake Joe Biden, get real fake fake fake, fake fake fake Oh, Fake election, fake election Shake the cops, shake the cops Oh, fake fake fake, fake fake fake Shake your booty, shake your booty You can do it, do it Shake shake, shake shake Shake policemen, shake policemen Shake shake, shake shake Laws are all fake Right down there, sister Shake shake, (c'mon) shake shake Come on do your duty Oh, do your duty |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 17 Dec 21 - 07:16 PM Slightly off topic, but over the years working in the oil 'bidness' even in Alaska i've run into both Southerners and Texans (I think Texans are in a class by themselves). And have heard the argument, usually as an aside because it's not worth having and out-and-out about the (US) Civil War across regional lines. But two cute responses have come up. The first is from my favorite engineer who grew up hardscrabble in Pennsylvania and does not suffer fools. When he heard folks try to call it "The War Between The States" his response was simply: "Losers don't get to name the War!" And for those who argue that the War was about States' Rights not Slavery, there is the original argument from President Abraham Lincoln, which I've read but don't remember word for word: "You can't argue for a level of freedom for yourself when that is exactly what you are denying to a whole class of people under your power." As usual, Lincoln understood it fully and expressed it best. If the United States is ever before a divine tribunal, it will be the words and actions of Lincoln that will represent the best in us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 16 Dec 21 - 05:15 PM Its odd how folks are awed with election fraud. Secret squads casting broad flaws from abroad? The rest applaud and nod to the Fox facade of lies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 16 Dec 21 - 11:31 AM Kanye is an ethinicutioner. (a traitor to his own people. |
