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BS: Trump Actions & Effects (NO new Trmp threads!)
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 15 Sep 22 - 12:55 PM Such are Nazi's, who want to remove or kill their enemy which is usually the rule of law. Barak Hussien Obama won the Nobel Peace prize after 9 months in office. He won for not being George W Bush. Trump won the approval of his fascist base but Joe Robinette Biden won the Presidency for not being Trump. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 14 Sep 22 - 02:48 PM I found this on Quora and am posting it here without permission. Lest we forget- Lara Trump keeps saying, her father-in-law was working 24/7 for the American people. She is a lying grifter, she helped her husband steal money from kids with cancer and funneled 2 million from a dog rescue charity to Trump properties. When Trump wasn't watching TV, throwing tantrums, tweeting insanity, sending love letters to Kim and Putin, abusing his staff, extorting foreign leaders, or playing golf, he was working to fill his own pockets. He never gave a damn about the American people. He was "working the American people" not "working for." I'll be so happy when the entire Trump family is a distant memory. Every one of them is a lying, cheating, stealing, treasonous low-life grifter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Sep 22 - 12:54 PM There is a speculative piece about an apparently unscheduled flight by Trump to Washington, D.C. this weekend. The source of this isn't particularly renown in the world of news media, but it's a starting place for the story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Sep 22 - 11:51 PM One of his appointed judges is slowing things down, but the Justice Department has given her a Thursday deadline to fix her first nonsensical ruling regarding what the DOJ may work with (he never could have owned these government documents to have them be his property now or returned later). They need to get another warrant to search both Bedminster and the New York apartment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 07 Sep 22 - 09:52 AM Blah, blah blah, your playing right into the politics of fear that has made trump possible. As the saying goes, better to die on your feet than live on your knees. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Sep 22 - 09:39 AM Depending on how it is done it would send 2 messages. One would make it clear to the right that Trump would escape a twenty year sentence based on health reasons by a compassionate act of a Democratic President. Two, it would send a message to the left that those who were willing to lie cheat and insurrect were all harmed by loss of some kind including homes and sanity due to excesses of a creeping oligarchy. The extreme left of the 1950s to 60's had the basic same complaints as the extreme right of the 60's to today except that the right has a constant 20% white nationalist agenda. The left was enraged by COINTELPRO and surveillance of the FBI just as the right complains about the FBI today. Clear government lies enraged both extremes. Distrust of justice is shared. What you begin to realize is that the extreme left and right have switched places in society. One was radical hippie and one is Qanon whacky. So my idea of a pardon could placate the right and the left extremes as long as the guardrails of law remains intact. You may be correct that it would reinforce the concept of an Imperial Presidency but it is still preferred over a civil war, as laws address the problems of oligarchy and wealth distribution. Disagree if you like but realize an actual living wage would go a long way to solving our problems and making billionaires/corporations pay taxes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 07 Sep 22 - 09:07 AM "THEN BIDEN PARDONS HIM". Wtf kind of message would that send, we'd have to amend that crappy old pledge to conclude with "liberty and justice for some and definitely for the top 1%." Anyhoo, the old flim flam man got his own judge to delay the criminal side of the Mar a Lago investigation til gawd knows when. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 07 Sep 22 - 07:37 AM https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/new-adl-leaked-oath-keepers-membership-list-reveals-hundreds-current-former |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 03 Sep 22 - 09:45 PM To err is human, to forgive divine. No I am not insane. The best solution is to prosecute Trump so he can not run again or hold office. THEN BIDEN PARDONS HIM. Jailing Hitler just made him a martyr with a book deal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: robomatic Date: 02 Sep 22 - 09:00 PM I really liked Biden's speech. I suspect there was a lot of thought put into it by the White House and the Dems. I think it is basically to put a challenge to the Trumpists, an invitation to the anti-Trump Reps, and a show of strength to the Independents. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 02 Sep 22 - 12:33 PM For Republicans who are not full throated MAGA white nationalists or Religous folks who almost make Trump Christ like, lies are still in their head. Thats over 50% Republicans who will vote for Trump. Combine them with new Trump officials who control voting in their state there is an uncertainty principle at work. The winner will be the result of united shared hatreds or united shared freedoms. I saw this danger coming for 20 years, but I don't know what the final result will be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 02 Sep 22 - 08:13 AM AMERICA MUST CHOOSE Biden delivered his semi-fascism of the MAGA Republicans speech. At least he half admitted the nazi wannabees. 51% of the right is condoning civil war rhetoric and 39% of Democrats are using the civil war language for different reasons. Almost a hundred years ago the US had a similar choice. FDR had his insurrection. If Charles Lindburg had been President we would be a fascist country or worse. FDR finessed the country during the Nazi rallies at Madison Square Garden days. We have a Republic today if we can keep it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Sep 22 - 10:22 PM He is talking his way into an indictment. The talking heads figure that Garland won't be able to do anything but charge Trump with a crime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 31 Aug 22 - 07:52 PM So far Trump's legal team has been a real amateur hour. None of his 9 excuses hold water so far, at least not legally. In search of a reasonable alibi, like any Godfather, Trump still has plenty of pattsies to pin it on. Starting with Eric and ending with Melania. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 31 Aug 22 - 07:57 AM 60 desperate posts by Trump yesterday to reenergize the Qanon to wipe out liberals is where Donald is today. He is hoping the naieve and psychopaths will come to his defense with violence. Fascist thugs do what they do but I believe their organization is not organized enough to stay hydrated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 30 Aug 22 - 08:09 AM Fortunately Truth Social (Disease) appears to be tanking and, as with all other trump ventures, leaving unpaid vendors in it's wake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 22 - 07:43 AM The more Trump moans "everybody is against me in the never ending witch hunts" the more intelligent Republicans believe him and the toxic effect he has on elections. Its too late for conservative fascists to turn around for the midterms but more will wise up in two years. By attacking all women of all ages the crazy base is shrinking and the rational folks are united. Those raised on Rush Limbaugh bit off more than they can swallow and were not careful what they wished for. Fear and death threats will go a long way to chase some people from their patriotic and democratic and personal duty among; Doctors, nurses, election volunteers, law enforcement, teachers, professors, school boards and whoever the next boogyman is targeted by fascist American Taliban types in service to their orange Hitleresque leader. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 22 - 06:28 AM Trump openly calls for Civil War on his truth social twitter wannabe site. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 29 Aug 22 - 01:20 PM The Wall Street Journal asks "Is that all there is"? "You better have a former President dead to rights". … I remember when I was very young, our house caught on fire I'll never forget the look on my father's face as he gathered me up In his arms and raced through the Burning building out on the pavement … And I stood there shivering in my pajamas And watched the whole world go up in flames And when it was all over I said to myself Is that all there is to a fire? … Is that all there is, is that all there is? If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing Let's break out the booze and have a ball If that's all there is … And when I was twelve years old My daddy took me to the circus, the greatest show on Earth There were clowns and elephants and dancing bears And a beautiful lady in pink tights flew high above our heads … And as I sat there watching I had the feeling that something was missing I don't know what, but when it was over I said to myself Is that all there is to the circus? … Is that all there is, is that all there is? If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing Let's break out the booze and have a ball If that's all there is … And then I fell in love In the most wonderful way in the world We'd take long walks by the river or Just sit for hours gazing into each other's eyes We were so very much in love Then one day it went away and I thought I'd die, but I didn't And when I didn't I said to myself Is that all there is to love? … Is that all there is, is that all there is? If that's all there is, my friends, then let's keep dancing Let's break out the booze and have a ball If that's all there is … I know what you must be saying to yourselves If that's the way I feel about it why don't I just end it all? Oh, no, not me, I'm not ready for that final disappointment Because I know just as well as I'm standing here talking to you That when that final moment comes and I'm Breathing my last breath, I'll be saying to myself … Is that all there is, is that all there is? If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing Let's break out the shrooms and have a ball If that's all there is |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 29 Aug 22 - 11:13 AM > a small book keeping error Did someone find a copy of The Thoughts of Chairman Mao in Agent Orange's safe? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 29 Aug 22 - 06:37 AM The stolen 154 top secret and secret documents from the basement at Merde Lager are being differentiated from documents marked confidential that may have to do with attorney client priviledge. Republicans are calling this a small book keeping error. They are also scrubbing their websites of any mention of their stand on abortion and personhood. Lindsey Graham (cracker) claims Trump is above the law and threatens violence in the streets. The Wall St. Journal is looking like the Washington Times |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 28 Aug 22 - 01:33 PM All good suggestions but spotting the fakes and fascist propogandists has only recently become far more challenging. Zuckerberg may have actually believed the process of disinformtion removal could be accomplished but it is now more refined and pervasive. The people required to do this work would have to be as high as 40 to 60% of an organization as described on npr. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Aug 22 - 12:02 PM Probably helpful to post here (even though they published on April 1, it is a real article): How to Spot Disinformation? Knowing how to identify disinformation is crucial to shutting it down From the Union of Concerned Scientists. Who probably tore their hair out all through the Trump administration. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 27 Aug 22 - 02:21 PM I had a dream that Michael Wood unearthed an unknown, unperformed Shakespear play with the help of an archeologist at the site of the former Grey Friars Priory in Leicester. The play is about a deformed deposed king that upon his resignation kept the crown jewels in boxes that were moved to his modest castle dungeon on a dreary northern coast... Where these dreams come from is strange indeed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 26 Aug 22 - 06:08 PM There is also a male version of cult training for students the right uses for their goals. "The Family" Many Congressmen used that training and money to gain office. Separating religion from politics is not their goal. The redacted document about the top secret files Trump stole is similar to UFO documents I've seen - blacked out entirely. All we know is how much there was. Clever people try to piece together INTENT by the kind of file it is. Sometimes a judge will not prosecute because of the inflammatory nature of the stolen secrets. Trump has no security clearance and is facing charges of unauthorized possession. It could be worse if intent can ever be established. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Aug 22 - 11:49 AM There is some big cash headed toward the dark money coffers. One Man Has Set Up a $1.6 Billion Slush Fund to Fuel the Radical Right’s Takeover of Congress; Get Ready for a Dirty Tricks Campaign And the loony-tunes Amy Coney Barrett is revealed: Revealed: leaked video shows Amy Coney Barrett’s secretive faith group drove women to tears it sounds like the cult that gave Margaret Atwood the idea for The Handmaid's Tale. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: leeneia Date: 24 Aug 22 - 05:17 AM Today I watched a YouTube video about flash-flooding at Nogales. There's a Nogales, Arizona and a Nogales, Mexico, and I believe they flow seamlessly together. Anyway, a few seconds into the video you can see where a river (not a large one) has swept away Trump's border wall and thrown its steel members about like matchsticks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyNmQJJPHnM "Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 22 - 08:46 PM If I were to diagnose Trump I would say he does feel shame. You might call him shameless but he knows/feels that he is defective and is always trying to hide and cover it up. He is in fact guiltless as well since guilt is an urge to heal or make amends. He believes in a self importance that makes him unhappy and actually dislikes himself as many Americans do. He is torn in different directions since he feels the most joy while talking to crowds about his shame that he lies and hides behind his illusion of self importance. Disliking himself compels him to attempt to humilliate others. Many people who hate themselves can identify with Trump. I tend to call minimizing the ego is the state that is most satisfying when you are doing something that has your complete attention without comparing yourself with others. For some it is music, art or a creativity project. etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 22 - 12:07 PM He found a new way to avoid high taxes by converting it to capital gains taxation. But his real coup was getting his select judges. I wonder if I can get a restraining order against Trump so I can have a lawsuit with Donald. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Aug 22 - 11:40 AM I heard a story about that on the news this morning, I think - how he sold a business and funneled the money into a PAC of dark money. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 22 - 11:08 AM Leonard Leo is also the man who is most respondsible for the last 3 conservative supreme court picks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 22 - 10:06 PM Trump went through the boxes before deciding what to give back to the National Archives back in January. Breaking news from the New York Times. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 08:53 PM Stilly if you haven't heard of Leonard Leo, research how he legally laundered 1.6 billion dollars and 'dark money donated' it to a right wing nationalist group. He is best friends with Clarance and Jinny. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 22 - 08:37 PM They're trying to make teachers and librarians criminals. Trump made all of this behavior totally acceptable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 08:36 PM People in Tennesee and Texas disagree. https://observer.com/2022/02/book-banning-is-increasing-across-the-united-states-a-book-burning-in-tennessee/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 08:26 PM I don't think any legislature should be in the business of banning books and making readers criminals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Lighter Date: 22 Aug 22 - 07:37 PM The "Texas legislature" isn't who's "banning" these books (yet). When a state legislature *bans* a book, it's permanently removed from all library shelves. Selling or possessing a copy also becomes a crime. Nothing like that has happened, not even in Texas. We're talking about local school districts where certain *parents* have objected to books, and school librarians have had to remove the books pending review by the school board - which is made up of parents and school administartors. Whatever may ultimately happen to some of the books on the list, *all* the titles are still available either in other libraries or through bookstores. Not the same thing as being "banned in Texas" by the state government, which, I assume, would be a legislative violation of the First Amendment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 03:50 PM Around one in 5 are without empathy for different reasons and mental conditions. Some are lively and some are wooden. It's easy to see why criminals are successful without empathy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 22 - 01:44 PM And this, the rats leaving the sinking White House, as the Kushner family decided on November 5, 2020, to move to Florida. This was before the election was even called for Biden. Their decision to move on opened a vacuum around the president that was filled by conspiracy theorists like Rudolph W. Giuliani and Sidney Powell, who relayed to Mr. Trump farcically false stories of dead voters, stuffed ballot boxes, corrupted voting machines and foreign plots. Concluding that the president would not listen even to family members urging him to accept the results, Mr. Kushner told Mr. Trump that he would not be involved if Mr. Giuliani were in charge, according to people he confided in, effectively ceding the field to those who would try to overturn the election. This is the New Jersey/New York crime family member deciding that if the corrupt former federal prosecutor was involved, he wasn't going to participate in Trump's post-election activities. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 22 - 01:39 PM For an entertaining read check out Dwight Garner's review of Jared Kushner's new book Breaking History: A White House Memoir in the New York Times. “Breaking History” is an earnest and soulless — Kushner looks like a mannequin, and he writes like one — and peculiarly selective appraisal of Donald J. Trump’s term in office. Kushner almost entirely ignores the chaos, the alienation of allies, the breaking of laws and norms, the flirtations with dictators, the comprehensive loss of America’s moral leadership, and so on, ad infinitum, to speak about his boyish tinkering (the “mechanic”) with issues he was interested in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 11:51 AM I appreciate anyone who does their own research. I may mention a headline in passing but educating yourself is the best kind of thinking for yourself. The last time I saw a headline tell the whole story was KENNEDY SHOT The stories were BS thereafter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 22 - 10:11 AM He is actually correct - there are some school districts in Texas where the rabid xtian parents have run amok in the libraries. Look up Granbury and see what they're doing. The larger school districts can push back against the nonsense but the smaller ones have been overrun on their school boards by Trumpites and xtian zealots. As far as Trump is concerned, Waist Deep in the Big Muddy comes to mind as he leads the GOP into a morass. Let's hope he's the captain at the head of that line. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 22 - 07:13 AM The left says Trump was in deep denial regarding his loss of presidential power so he kept documents. The right has dozens of whacko theories why he has top secret documents. Everybody knows that the orange one's guilty Everybody knows they were double-crossed Everybody knows the war was Hitler's Everybody knows the holocaust Everybody knows the fight was damn close The poor stay poor, the rich get rich That's how it goes Everybody knows Everybody knows that the rich are cheating Everybody knows that the con man lied Everybody got this broken feeling Like their father and their dog just died Everybody thinks about the end Everybody knows there are new weapons that they can't defend Everybody knows Everybody knows that the shared red hatreds Are stronger than our true blue loves Everybody knows their cash was stolen Oh, give or take a grand or two Everybody knows who hides in plain sight But there are many people who hide in darkness Without a clue Everybody knows Everybody knows, everybody knows That's how it goes Everybody knows Everybody knows, everybody knows That's how it goes Everybody knows Everybody knows what it is that saves us Everybody knows were short on justice And everybody knows that they are lucky they're not in jails that are not their own Everybody knows the deal is rotten and the old times are not forgotten Except for what is written in stone. And everybody knows And everybody knows that the Plague is coming Everybody knows that it's moving fast Everybody knows that their God won't save them When they take their final breath Everybody knows Trump's lie is dead But there's gonna be a here after for the misled That will disclose What everybody knows And everybody knows the sky is in trouble Everybody knows what we've been through The bloody steps of the capitol To a crazed revolution Everybody knows who attacks us Take a look at the Constitution Before its gone Everybody knows |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Lighter Date: 19 Aug 22 - 02:40 PM Not just misleading, substantially incorrect. The bible was also removed: https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1117708153/bible-anne-frank-books-banned-texas-school-district#:~:text=The%20books%20that%20were% |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 19 Aug 22 - 11:41 AM Donuel wrote: "Texas legislature bans 41 subversive books including The Diary of Ann Frank." That is somewhat misleading, perhaps you'd provide a link to the real story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 19 Aug 22 - 10:07 AM MAGA maniacs are saying "there is nothing sancrosanct about America or its elected officials. Death threats are the means of doing business with libtards and sheep in the dem regime". I support free speech so lets see what their Declaration of Independance and Constitution look like. No doubt they will be documents of lies. As soon as critsizing the leader is subject to treason laws, we would know their true colors. Instead of a Bill of RIGHTS you could be billed for rights like buying freedom (similaar to our system today) but lets give the fascists the benefit of doubt. What would they hold sancrosanct ????? who benefits? qui bene? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 18 Aug 22 - 07:59 PM See which prison he has to chose from; Seen from above |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 18 Aug 22 - 07:46 PM His original lawyer was Roy Cohn but his CFO is now going to Rikers Island prison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: gillymor Date: 18 Aug 22 - 07:15 PM Rumors of trump's next TV opus- The Apprentice Inmate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects From: Donuel Date: 18 Aug 22 - 06:32 PM Trump hires Gucci Mane as his Georgia lawyer. Gucci Mane is known as a billionaire's lawyer who is a RICCO killer and gets rapper criminals off the hook. Gucci is seasoned and successful. With a name like Gucci you got to be good. |