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BS: Trump Actions and Effects

Donuel 20 May 22 - 05:04 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 22 - 05:04 PM

A air bubble injection is no guarantee for a stroke but mainlining super glue is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 May 22 - 09:58 AM

His folks want to snag some of those states that make a difference in the election - hoping the PA governor will appoint a corrupt MAGA secretary of state.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 May 22 - 11:14 AM

Har, I sentence ye JD Trumpirate to walk the ramp


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 22 - 10:00 PM

George Bush is also 75. His Iraq waar bears many similarities with Putin's war.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 22 - 11:14 AM

Hitler's campaign slogan in 1930 Germany was "Make Germany Great Again".
Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union empire and his warning to the world was "Don't Poke the Russain Bear".

The Trump playbook has plagurized Hitler and Putin.
I don't think Trump wrote his own playbook.

Dying Empires do stupid things be it Rome, Japan, England or Russia.
Some believe the USA is next.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 22 - 02:58 PM

Apparently Dr. Oz (who was once considered a talented surgeon) is lagging behind another candidate in PA; being a TV star is what brings him into Trump's radar, but Trump's endorsement isn't helping.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 15 May 22 - 09:28 AM

Bill Clinton is living on biological inertia and borrowed time at a very high interest rate compounded daily. Since they are both 75 why can't Trump succumb to nature's way of slowing down?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 22 - 04:56 PM

I suggest Garland arrests one of the 5 subpeona ignorers and leak he has implicated the rest of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 22 - 04:39 PM

The only way to assure a secrect is kept between two people is to kill one of them. When hundreds are involved killing half of them should do the trick. When will the Trump coup conspiracy compatriot murders begin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 11 May 22 - 05:20 PM

Will Elon Musk's opinion to put Trump back on Twitter make Trump take the bait?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 10 May 22 - 07:29 PM

The religious right American Taliban prefers their ladies with less clothes and a Supream Court to make women 2/5ths citizens.
Reducing women's sufferage almost sounds like a good thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 08 May 22 - 09:32 PM

Many a fortune was conceived in the shadow of a lie.
The most evil plans were made on a moonless night in the darkest room of white christian associations. However the greatest most long lasting criminal lies were made by the fossil fuel boys who put the entire world on the runaway highway to a Venus atmosphere on Earth.

We missed the last possible course change away from extinction by a mere 20 years.

How easily hypnotized we were to the men who used the phrase "The reality is".


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 22 - 09:58 AM

If you go down to the square today, you're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the square today, you'd better go in disguise
For every nut that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the trumpy bears have their picnic
Every trumpy bear who's been good is sure of a treat today
There's lots of liberal foes to own and traitorous games to play
Beneath the trees where nobody sees
They'll hide and shoot as long as they please
That's the way the trumpy bears have their picnic
Its Carnival time for trump nuts
The white nationalists are having a lovely time today
Watch them, catch them unawares
And see them picnic on their holiday
See them gaily gad about
They love to play and shout
They never have any cares
At six o'clock their mummies and daddies
Will take them back home to eat
'Cause they're tired little trump nuts
If you go down in the square today, you'd better not go alone
It's crazy down in the square today, but safer to stay at home
For every nut that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the trumpy bears have their picnic


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 04 May 22 - 09:29 PM

My non-legal understanding of the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision by The Supremes is that they derived a right to privacy out of the 14th Amendment, and proceeded from there. Roe v. Wade is not the only decision based on the 14th Amendment.

Joe Biden made some comments yesterday or today that I think accurately called our attention to the fact that other aspects of 'settled law' may become unstuck if the Alito Draft, released yesterday, becomes a majority decision.

If someone with relevant Constitutional chops could comment on this I'd be very interested. It might deserve its own thread.

I have also mentioned among friends that if Roe v. Wade is reversed, which I think is the correct term, it will lead to women dying while trying to force their own abortions or obtain illicit unhygienic abortions.

I think this is a medium term to long term Trmp effect but is also related to the overall lowering of the bar that Trmp has introduced to this country and also the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 04 May 22 - 05:46 PM

Trmp's endorsenent of author J D Vance apparently showed he has powers still.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 22 - 04:48 PM

The Conservative agenda is to ban gay marriage next, eliminate contraception and to strengthen their culture war attacks with death threats. Nothing works as well as success to firm ones resolve.

Local Fox news shows a 60% vote for the Supreme Court decision.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 22 - 04:43 PM

The Supreme Court has the power to interpret the Constitution. Its rulings on cases determine the meaning of laws and acts of Congress and the president. Knowing the key decisions of the Supreme Court and the precedents they set is vital in understanding the meaning of laws, how our country has changed over time, and the direction the country is headed.

However if the Court by way of minority rule loses the respect of the people it places the Constitution and Nation in grave jeopardy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 May 22 - 01:13 AM

The document leaked isn't in effect now. They aren't overturned until it is published, later this summer.

Damn Trump. Damn McConnell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 22 - 11:27 PM

We're all Republicans now
We're all united and how
For national security
And cultural purity
We're all Republicans now
Death to Roe vs. Wade
Let government and civil rights fade
Less regulation--let people be free
To work overtime and have two jobs or three
Put strict constructionists back on the courts
Let liberals have it right in the shorts
It's a free country so go and have fun
But not in my backyard cause I have a gun
We're all Republicans
All Republicans
All Republicans now.

We're all Trump Republicans now

God put us in office
He's fulfulling his prophecy
We're all Republicans now
So if health care you can't afford
You better talk to the Lord
He brought us to power--it's His Will we do
His wish list is ban contraception for you
He told us to battle and never relent
We want no more misogination heaven sent
No matter what happens, we're not to blame
White male slave owners should win election games
We're all Republicans
All Republicans
All Republicans now.

Garrison&Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 22 - 10:06 PM

Now for the first time that US citizens have lost a right, the second ammendment has a precedant for being overturned.
jus thinkin in text but not out loud.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 22 - 09:38 PM

but mostly the price of Misopropenol will go way up on the internet...
Its legal and approved by the FDA but there is always the rest of the world that will mail order.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 22 - 09:19 PM

Abortion rights overturned in the USA.
source: court draft opinion obtained by politico.

It looks like orphanages are a new growth industry,


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 22 - 03:51 PM

The Japanese don't know how to translate his disjointed word salad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 May 22 - 12:06 PM

Nice - today I clicked on Google News and had to scroll way down the list before Trump appeared. Narcissists need to drop off of the page.

He apparently misspoke at a rally, forgetting the name of the cretin he endorsed, but it isn't a story worth posting a link to. He misspeaks all of the time (it could be said that is his entire manner of speech).


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 22 - 02:55 PM

JUNE 9th is when the 1-6 Commitee will have a half dozen public hearings on the insurrection.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Apr 22 - 05:44 PM

Trump has been advertised as a King Maker.
Sorry Charlie you are a big loser and Republicans are late to the wake but are waking up to Donal's losership.
Yes as a LOSER he has lost the House, Presidency, primaries, coups, lawsuits, Supream Court decisions, respect and common sense.

Sure Qanon is calling everyone else the evil other. But the majority sees who the loons are. It just takes 4 to 8 years for people to come to a reasonable conclusion.

A recent poll showed that 1% of folks would prefer to live atop a toxic waste dump. The percentage is 80 % when people are uneducated about their toxic waste dump. We are notoriously slow learners despite being educated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Apr 22 - 04:33 AM

Boeing loses a lot of money over Air Force One contract


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Apr 22 - 11:02 PM

Trump used pardons to protect his friends and family after they committed crimes.

Biden has a better idea.
Today, I am pardoning three people who have demonstrated their commitment to rehabilitation and are striving every day to give back and contribute to their communities. I am also commuting the sentences of 75 people who are serving long sentences for non-violent drug offenses, many of whom have been serving on home confinement during the COVID-pandemic—and many of whom would have received a lower sentence if they were charged with the same offense today, thanks to the bipartisan First Step Act.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Apr 22 - 10:11 PM

It's a world of slaughter
A world of tears
It's a world of hopes
And a world of fears
There's so much that we share
That it's time we're aware

Trump's a tall tool after all
He's a tall fool after all
He tells tall tales after all
He's full of hatred after all
In his small, small world


apologies to Disney


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Apr 22 - 10:26 AM

MSNBC played a piece about the Jan. 6 events, and how though they moved Pence out of harm's way, he refused to drive away from the Capitol. He had a job to do and it seems several people realized that if they left they might never return, might never retain the ability to use the Capitol.

New Details On Why Pence Refused To Get In Secret Service Car On Jan. 6. It also sounds a bit like if Pence had gotten into the car, the Secret Service would have whisked him away to Alaska or somewhere out of reach of the activity that he had to conclude. Trump's Secret Service would have made it possible for Trump to take over and stay in office.

Really creepy stuff coming out lately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Apr 22 - 06:52 AM

Take heart Donald, even Hitler's first coup failed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Apr 22 - 02:58 PM

I heard a prediction that Judge Kathryn Kimbell Mizelle would be appointed to the Supreme Court in the Second Trmp Administration and would be the first justice to be strangled while in office.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Apr 22 - 01:47 PM

Trump lowered the bar for so many people on so many fronts. And it has proven to be an enduring legacy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Apr 22 - 05:44 PM

Trump must feel proud . The CDC has had its credibility trashed early on imo. With no enforcable defensive measures we have lost the bio weapon attack war of the future.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Apr 22 - 10:48 PM

One of Trump's lifetime appointed judges (who the ABA ranked as totally unqualified) blocked the CDC mask mandate. For all of the wrong reasons.

How a Trump-appointed judge reignited a major debate over power in the courts
Are we comfortable placing such power in the hands of individual, unelected district judges — especially in an age when the federal courts often look just as polarized as the country?
On Monday, Tampa, Florida-based federal District Judge Kathryn Kimbell Mizelle threw out the mask mandate the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had imposed on all interstate transportation hubs — including commercial airports and airplanes — to suppress the spread of Covid. Mizelle’s analysis, such as it is, focused on two distinct holdings — that the CDC lacked the statutory authority to impose such a mandate (because wearing a mask is unrelated to “sanitation,” a dubious piece of statutory interpretation, to say the least) and that, in any event, the CDC had taken procedural shortcuts in adopting the mandate that also rendered it invalid. Because her decision purports to vacate the entire CDC rule, it has nationwide effect — meaning that, by Monday afternoon, most major airlines and transportation services were no longer enforcing mask requirements.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 22 - 04:53 PM

Trump's Beer Hall Putch and insurrection attempt may not land him in jail to only ghost write a book about his struggle but his supporters will suffer consequences they were unaware of, even if he wins again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 22 - 11:15 PM

An Hispanic Texas woman was charged with 1st degree murder for having an abortion. Charges were dropped only after everyone heard about Texas abortion murder charges in the Hispanic community.
Hispanic Zygote killers beware.

FL Gov. De Santis wants Disney to be strictly controled by the State and wants to remove self governing rules in Disney Parks and movies.
Disney executives had the timerity to question the Govenor's anti gay laws.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Apr 22 - 05:03 PM

From CNN about Trump's buddy Texas Gov. Abbott.

Opinion: Greg Abbott's border policies are nothing more than a political stunt:

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott appears to have violated the US Constitution by mandating additional inspections of commercial vehicles arriving in Texas from Mexico. After trucks were delayed for more than 12 hours, causing supply chain issues on both sides of the border, Abbott lifted the order Friday.

While he claims he was fighting drug cartels with executive actions, Abbott used state resources to design a personal cartel of intimidation to serve his political ambitions. In doing so, he flagrantly interfered with legal commerce and did so without probable cause, while hurting American businesses and consumers. The Constitution's privileges and immunities clause guarantees a right to free movement. Governments do not have the right to stop people and question them without probable cause, and simply crossing the border in a truck can hardly be considered probable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Apr 22 - 11:47 AM

Yes, I've heard about that, and Rachel Maddow discussed how Putin smeared people who built a monument to Stalin's victims (accusing those caretakers of the site with being child pornographers, "the worst of the worst human beings.") Then buried them in prison and had the mass graves bulldozed. Maddow pointed out hints of that same strategy in how GOP tried to suggest that (then) Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson was "soft on child pornographers."

All of this led to an interview with Jane Mayer, who wrote The Slime Machine Targeting Dozens of Biden Nominees
In an escalation of partisan warfare, a little-known dark-money group is trying to thwart the President’s entire slate.
Rather than attack a single candidate or nominee, the A.A.F. aims to thwart the entire Biden slate. The obstructionism, like the Republican blockade of Biden’s legislative agenda in Congress, is the end in itself. The group hosts a Web site, bidennoms.com, that displays the photographs of Administration nominees it has targeted, as though they were hunting trophies. And the A.A.F. hasn’t just undermined nominees for Cabinet and Court seats—the kinds of prominent people whose records are usually well known and well defended. It’s also gone after relatively obscure, sub-Cabinet-level political appointees, whose public profiles can be easily distorted and who have little entrenched support. The A.A.F., which is run by conservative white men, has particularly focussed on blocking women and people of color. As of last month, more than a third of the twenty-nine candidates it had publicly attacked were people of color, and nearly sixty per cent were women.

A bit later in the article, we learn:
The A.A.F. told the I.R.S. that its mission is to conduct nonpartisan research, but it is curious that the largest contribution by far to its parent group, C.P.I., is a million-dollar “charitable contribution” from Save America—Trump’s political-action committee. Trump reportedly raised much of the pac’s money from supporters after his 2020 defeat, and his campaign has called the group an “election defense fund.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 22 - 10:43 AM

Trump is connected with an oppo research group that specializes in smearing enemy candidates with pedophile and child porn accusations much as QAnon and Putin has for years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 12:53 PM

Donald Trump Jr. has computer messaging refering to all the means they have of overturning the election results in place and ready to go.
They said Eric was the stupid one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 10:07 AM

The Apprentice is a program I was never tempted to watch. And the really odd thing to New Yorkers, who knew how unreliable and unstable he was, was that after all of his business failures, selfish acts, and general stupidity, he still got elected by the rest of the country.

Quite often now when Zelenskyy is in the news, there is a reference to "Trump's first impeachment" as part of the story. That's gotta sting, even to someone as obtuse as Trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 09:01 AM

Oops. That was a response to something that isn't here. Brain-fart. I was actually referring to The Apprentice...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 08:55 AM

The same tired old buttock-clencher is still running here, inexplicably, with the twot formerly known as "Sralan," latterly "Lord Shugger" at the helm. Utterly unwatchable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 07:32 AM

Donuel has it right in Turnip's case. If you recall how often he repeats keyphrases aloud, it's a form of self-hypnosis used by followers of Norman Vincent Peale (qv).

Apologies for not being able to bring myself to say the T word aloud. In our house, he's more usually referred to as Agent Orange.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 06:34 AM

Dave, Some might call it a conditioned response, brainwashed or hypnosis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 04:33 AM

Oh - and 1300 :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 04:33 AM

The trouble is you cannot reason with those who have made up their minds without reason. Make America Great Again in the US and Take Back Control in the UK were dog whistles to which people reacted with no thought. How do you counter such populism? Hopefully, if there is one good thing comes out of the war in Ukraine, it will show people how propagda works. Whether those who voted for Trump or Brexit will accept that they were duped by populist sound bites is another matter :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 07:34 PM

The danger is, robo, that seventy million or more voters, the ones who voted for Trump, might not be too much impressed by the nuances of political arguments. Just one bon mot from Trump could swing it. "Make America great again," for example.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 06:37 PM

Trump doesn't let self-contradiction get in his way. When informed of Putin's move on Ukraine he spoke of it as 'genius' indicating he thought it was 'smart'. He now says he didn't mean it approvingly, but that's not so clear. He is currently saying that if he was President Putin "wouldn't dare" (invade).

I think that a debate against Trump could be successful if the debater sticks to his guns and hammers out the contradictions that are inherent in Trump's self-aggrandizing arguments. Likewise that his information does'nt hold up in a factual manner, as sometimes happens in this forum.


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