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BS: Trump Actions & Effects (NO new Trmp threads!)

Mr Red 16 Nov 20 - 07:58 AM
Donuel 17 Nov 20 - 08:18 AM
Stilly River Sage 18 Nov 20 - 02:51 PM
SPB-Cooperator 19 Nov 20 - 09:01 AM
Donuel 19 Nov 20 - 09:07 AM
Mrrzy 19 Nov 20 - 09:50 AM
Donuel 19 Nov 20 - 12:14 PM
Elmore 19 Nov 20 - 10:01 PM
Donuel 20 Nov 20 - 08:31 AM
Steve Shaw 20 Nov 20 - 08:54 AM
Donuel 20 Nov 20 - 12:11 PM
Steve Shaw 20 Nov 20 - 12:35 PM
Donuel 20 Nov 20 - 05:46 PM
SPB-Cooperator 21 Nov 20 - 06:45 AM
Stilly River Sage 21 Nov 20 - 03:35 PM
Donuel 21 Nov 20 - 07:38 PM
Neil D 22 Nov 20 - 09:43 PM
Neil D 22 Nov 20 - 09:47 PM
robomatic 22 Nov 20 - 10:33 PM
SPB-Cooperator 23 Nov 20 - 05:53 AM
gillymor 23 Nov 20 - 06:00 AM
Donuel 23 Nov 20 - 09:51 AM
robomatic 24 Nov 20 - 08:20 AM
Donuel 24 Nov 20 - 06:56 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Nov 20 - 07:58 AM

Perhaps it is an obscure reference to what America should have done to Don long ago. Ear whacks

ie box his ears


OK, OK, I'll get my coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Nov 20 - 08:18 AM

The FBI has reported an historic all time high in hate crimes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Nov 20 - 02:51 PM

Trump is telegraphing to the Iranians and Taliban in Afghanistan that he's removing troops (even though the House, Senate, and Joint Chiefs of Staff don't want the change). Trump seems to be intent on getting more people killed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:01 AM

Over hear we are not hearing much about the turnip in the news. Is it because he is now just sulking with his thumb stuck in his mouth, or is it because the turnip is now a nobody who tantrums are no longer newsworthy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:07 AM

Silence is golden but it may only hide evil and not help stop it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:50 AM

I am reminded of accidentally dripping hot wax from a red candle onto one of my twins while making a jack-o-lantern, he must have been around 3. He yelps, I say sorry, and he looks at the red drops on his forearm and asked, is that blood? I said no, dear, it's candle wax. His little face screwed up and he wailed, but why did it whack meeeeee?
Thank you for that memory.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 12:14 PM

Trump says donors are paying for recounts - they aren't.
Re election $ goes directly to Trump (not the Republican party) for maga marches and endless rallies.
This is the age of brown shirts and political street violence, or so Trump hopes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Elmore
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 10:01 PM

Madness. Trump and company have pushed me over the edge with their attempt to bully Michigan legislators into invalidating the presidential election. So, I did what any irate Democratic Socialist avowed agnostic 79 year old would; drank a half bottle of Scotch. and sent 25 bucks to Bobby Schuller for his 2021 Hour of Power calendar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 08:31 AM

After trying to buy and or intimidate electoral college electors and state legislatures his denoument is the supreme court. ""Et tu Amy?""
The last hope is a Pentagon Coup but he only has some recently appointed loyalists there. Then its just him and his cell phone.

Out of power he still will have Trump TV and the Real American Taliban Militias.

ps I knew a Robert Mueller. He was the son of Heinrich Mueller the butcher of Cyprus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 08:54 AM

I've been to Cyprus three times but can't speak for the butchers there. But I do know an excellent butcher in Benahadux in Almería province in Andalucía...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 12:11 PM

What about the ancient carved caves of Malta?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 12:35 PM

I'll go there one day and let you know. It's on the bucket list.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:46 PM

On the serious side, Florida and some other like minded states are introducing an EXPANDED 'stand your ground law' by making it a felony to block traffic BUT a person who kills people with a gun may be considered innocent under justifiable homocide law as long as they say they were protecting business' from protesters.

Technically you face 5 to 10 years for crossing the street while a killer with an AK can murder legally.

These laws remind me of the anti Juden laws in the 30's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 06:45 AM

Just curious, at what point would a court make a distinction between the legitimacy of taking a pot shot to protect premises just because the business owner doesn't like the look of the protestor, and a protestor who is violently trying to gain entry to a premises.

Also, and more importantly, would a court apply the laws equally to a white supremacist protestor intimidating a business run by a black person.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 03:35 PM

Trump seems to want to continue to collect money from the public so has suggested he will run for office again in 4 years. So he may try to keep that militia of right-wing gun-toting lunatics stirred up (as a big chunk of his voting base).


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 07:38 PM

Rittenhouse arrested for murder, the kid with an AK 47 at a protest, is out on 2 million dollars bail. I assume right wing $ is involved.
The problem with the street violence Trump wants to magnify is that Antifa is more of an illusion than a real organized movement like the Communists in Hitler's Germany.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Neil D
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 09:43 PM

This odd fellow Nero was surely no hero
Drunk on wine and playing his lyre
While people were dying and Rome was on fire
And then there was Trump

Things got hairy under Queen Bloody Mary
A hag with a heart made of stone
London was grim and England quite scary
Gravediggers grew callouses trying to bury
All those she killed when she took the throne
And then there was Trump

And Marie Antoinette who infamously said
Shortly before she would soon lose her head
When told that the people were lacking in bread
Wondered why they didn't enjoy a nice pastry instead
And then there was Trump

Hitler and Stalin, God you should have seen 'em
A couple of Hell's wickedest demons
Who slaughtered tens of millions between 'em
And then there was Trump

When history tots up every foul evil ruler
From the imbecilic drooler
To the dumpster fire fueler
Trying to judge which was the crueler
Well then there was Trump


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Neil D
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 09:47 PM

Oh, by the way Donuel there was right wing $ involved in footing Rittenhouse's bail. It was Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy and former child actor Ricky Schroder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 10:33 PM

Right now there is a 60 Minutes article about the large number of school-age kids who are 'off the grid' as in, they were in school last year, but haven't shown up in schools or on line, in the E-12 timeline. I'm not saying that our fearless leader is responsible for this. I am saying that the lack of organized response to our Covid Crisis that emanates from the top down has played a big part in a coming sub-population of non or under-educated citizens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 05:53 AM

What;s an E-12 - sounds like a food additive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: gillymor
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 06:00 AM

It looks like trump is in for a very active retirement and it won't be all tee times and liasons with pornstars.

WaPo


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 09:51 AM

Listing all the kindred spirits in style and substance would be all well and good but it is a talent I don't have with names, especially fake names. Critics are just as helpful in the long run but are names easier to remember probably due to 'threat memory'.

It does not feel like a world of right or wrong anymore.
It feels like SANE or INSANE.

Perhaps it has always been the case but its more obvious to me now.
I have always supported helping people regain their sanity...
But where and how do we profit to help Trump to regain a sanity he has never had? Sometimes there is no cure. I only know that truth and its delivery system humor, is an effective vaccine to stem the infection of insanity.

It is my belief more insanity is learned than are born with it.
Insanity itself is a pandemic. I repeat
Insanity itself has its own pandemic today.
Socially distancing ourselves from insanity has always been done.
When the insane gather on social media, infection spreads uncontrolably.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 08:20 AM

SPB-Cooperator: E-12 is a reference to U.S. educational progress of Elementary school through 12th grade, the final year of high school.

Apparently the Current Occupant's tweets have yielded a guarded concession to the idea of transition should all the bogus moves to reverse the actual election fail, which they are doing.

It's so hard to believe that there will be no repercussions to the myriad of Republican legislators and of course FOX bloviaters who have basically lambasted the orderly progression of American institutions. There seems to be no sense of the ludicrous or even basic irony between what they have alleged of the other side and what they are performing in broad daylight right now, seeking to overturn popular votes, insisting that there is evidence without any citations of evidence. Accusing everyone but themselves of base motives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 06:56 PM

Bannon awaits his trial regarding fraud
Trump awaits charges from NYS

After that it looks like prosecution for others will be up to the voters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Nov 20 - 09:02 PM

Flynn, former national security advisor and agent for Turkey, got a presidential pardon via tweet.


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Subject: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 02:09 PM

More executions - what a shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 02:38 PM

How long before one of his own inner team
stealthily sneaks up from behind and permanently turns his lights out...???

".. Et tu, Brute?.."...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 02:55 PM

I've seen enough to believe Trump and his Republican toadies want people to die, to lose their health insurance, and homes, and want the country, and every good thing we've ever stood for destroyed. I think it's treason, but nobody who CAN do anything about it has the guts to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: Helen
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 04:02 PM

I think the people around him are distancing themselves from him by just quietly melting away into the shadows. They don't want to associate with someone with a big L for Loser branded on his forehead.

I thought I couldn't be shocked by anything else that he could do, but approving executions in his presidential lame duck period is the lowest of the low. How low can he go after this?

And I don't know who is on his executions list but I have read that generally Black people are disproportionately represented on the list of people due to be executed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 05:27 PM

Perhaps he's a paranormal potusgiest


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Subject: RE: BS: Is trump becoming an even bigger shit?
From: Helen
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 06:30 PM

Or COTUS? (Centre of the Universe Syndrome)


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 02:04 AM

PFR, I did suggest a long time ago that if the turnip wanted to find his way into the record books, it couldn't go wrong by having a stab at breaking Harrison's record.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 08:20 AM

executions since July


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 05:45 PM

OK trump has 6 hours to sign a senate bill to keep the government open for one more week. He wouldn't want to close down the Supream Court would he?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 06:03 PM

From Don's link to the LA Times:

Starting in July, the Trump administration ended what had been a 17-year hiatus in the federal death penalty. The president quickly became the most executing president in a century as well as for most executions for any president in one year. As of Friday, he has overseen nine fatal injections at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind. All the while, of course, the White House has shown nothing but indifference to the deaths of nearly 300,000 from the COVID-19 pandemic.

Four more executions are set to take place before Biden takes office in January. Biden, not incidentally, has promised to work to end the death penalty altogether.

The latest Trump-ordered killing happened Thursday evening. Brandon Bernard’s execution was undertaken so recklessly that even lawyer Alan Dershowitz, usually a Trump defender, protested. Keeping up with newly minted prison reformer Kim Kardashian West, Dershowitz asked that Trump commute Bernard’s death sentence to life in prison without parole.

Dershowitz and Kardashian West rightly pointed out that Bernard was only 18 when he burned evidence in a failed carjacking that ended in two grisly murders. The jurors and prosecutors who convicted Bernard of murder now believe his sentence was unjust because his reasoning in 1999 was that of a minor and his participation in the actual murders is unclear.

If there’s even a hint of a doubt about a death row prisoner’s conviction, clemency should be granted. But that’s assuming a rational president with a micron of decency. Instead we have Trump.


Everything has to be taken to extremes with this sociopath.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 06:59 PM

4.1 percent of death row prisoners are proven innocent.
10 to 20% are reasonably innocent but technicalities and representation does not allow for truth to enter the process of justice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Dec 20 - 12:30 PM

It's OVER. The Supreme Court tossed out the Texas lawsuit.

And the FDA approved the vaccine and is trying to explain that they did it the right way, not just because at the last minute Trump got impatient and threatened the FDA head with firing or having to quit if he didn't do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Dec 20 - 12:36 PM

Is trump going to be this petulant & litigative with the grim reaper and satan,
pathologically in denial that he died...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 12 Dec 20 - 01:04 PM

pfr, now there's a story for Terry Pratchett - if he was still here with us. Just imagine what sort of crazy situations and plotlines TP would have invented.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 06:27 PM

That storyline was used during/after Joe McCarthy with a twist on a LP called the Investigator.

Trump will become a twisted bitter sore loser except to his fanatics who feel the pangs of losing all to well.

True evil does not know how evil it is.
Even Hitler was a dog lover in his way but Trump holds dogs in contempt and involks the word dog for his most hated enemies.
Even the Grinch was a dog lover if you recall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Dec 20 - 07:13 PM

The Electoral College vote is supposedly officially in. Once again: It's Over. How many times are we gonna have to repeat it that way?

Trump and his yidiots have also 'officially' lost over 50 court cases.

This reminds me of something (almost) completely different.

In the Spring of 1945, German soldiers were fighting British and American forces on the West of Germany, and of course the Soviet Russians were coming in from the Eastern Front. One would think that the German attitude would be to surrender to the West and appeal for cessation of hostilities to avoid the worst that was about to come from the East. But a good German soldier was bound to resist to the last. So he felt obligated to fire every bit of his ammo into the Brits and Americans. Only when the bullets and grenades and shells were gone, he could honorably stand up hands up. Apparently many times to be surprised by enraged allies gunning him down.

This is sort of what the Replicants are doing: feeling that this is the last stage of a war and every avenue, from desperate to ludicrous, must be trod down.

And ludicrous it certainly is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 03:18 AM

Is this fake news or is it serious?

I would expect no more and no less of him but - seriously!!??

Scroll halfway down the page.

Trump tweaks showerhead regulation to make hair 'perfect'

The Trump administration has relaxed a regulation restricting water flow from showerheads.

It's a pet peeve of President Donald Trump, who complained that he wanted more water to make his hair "perfect".

Since 1992, federal law has dictated that showerheads shouldn't spew more than 9.5 litres of water a minute. As newer shower fixtures came out with multiple nozzles, the Obama administration updated the ruling, stating that 9.5L was still the limit regardless of how many nozzles were running.

The new ruling from the Energy Department, issued on Tuesday, now says each showerhead can emit 9.5L a minute.

"So showerheads — you take a shower, the water doesn't come out," Mr Trump said last summer.

    "You want to wash your hands? The water doesn't come out. So what do you do? You just stand there longer or you take a shower longer? Because my hair — I don't know about you, but it has to be perfect. Perfect."


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 12:38 PM

It certainly echoes a Seinfeld episode that the Current Occupant may have seen.

When that person was behind a podium in the warmer weather of earlier in the year, the light passed right through his perfect coif and for a few moments we could see that when bereft of hair, he bore a striking resemblance to Ed Asner.*


*Sorry about that, Ed!


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 01:04 PM

He's busy trying to throw obstacles in the way of Biden undoing his bad works. Meanwhile, there is a group of Democrats suggesting that Biden should, with the stroke of a pen, forgive $50,000 of school loan debt from Americans. The trouble is, that's not necessarily a durable or legal fix. Just because Donald did this by executive order - that should be a cautionary warning. Biden would prefer that the Congress affect that change, then it's legal and on the books the way it should be. We've had enough of this royal fiat nonsense that Trump wanted to continually deploy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 07:00 AM

The Covid relief bill has poison pill additions such as making it difficult to make a new Treasury secretary from suppling more aid. Also unemployment insurance was cut 25% from 16 weeks tp 12 weeks, direct checks are cut from 1,200 to 600 dollars, 100 billion dollar tax cut for corportions and less help for those facing eviction.
Trump will not sign the Defense budget and wants more say in the relief bill.

On the funny side Mara lago neighbors have shown that Trump signed a contract saying he can not reside at Mara Lago more than 3
consecutive weeks in order to make it a private club.
He will have to go to Doral (eww bedbugs) or probably a mansion formerly owned by a cocaine kingpin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 09:54 AM

The Covid relief bill carves out a bailout for 17,000 airline jobs but nothing for 3 million restaurant workers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 06:06 PM

The DH and I have been watching Antiques Roadshow on YouTube in the evenings, and that has made me antiques-conscious.

I have sent e-mails to my senator and representative, asking them to take steps to make sure Trump and his associates don't walk out of the White House with fine antiques that belong to the people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 08:47 AM

White House dicussions with General Flynn include ordering martial law
in Trump States seizing voting machines to be adjusted correctly and having a do over election. Carl Rove has claimed that vote counters flushed Trump votes during their bathroom breaks. Some people had as many as 4 bathroom breaks. When interviewed one man said he had a double dump.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 09:48 AM

Karl Rove had the idea... back when... that with careful Gerrymandering and legal tricks, the system could be designed to create a 1000 year Reich Republicaneich.

   He failed for obvious reasons, but that wish/goal/concept still lives as a substitute for 'the will of the majority'. Combating it resembles combating new viruses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 20 - 02:50 PM

Karl Rove , for those who don't know, appeared in the movie Indiana Jones and the ark of the the covanent'
He was the guy who burned his hand.


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