BS: Trump Actions & Effects (NO new Trmp threads!)

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Nov 21 - 08:03 AM

WHEN HYPNOTISTS GO BAD

"The Shrink Next Door' is a docu drama that is a TRUE story of a psychiatrist who took over the lives of vulnerable patients.
It stars Will Ferrel, Katherine Hawn and Paul Rudd. If you ever watch this TV series you may see a similarity to what Donald Trump did to America,

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 11:22 AM

Obstruction and Failure to Produce Documents - the charges against Steve Bannon, who turned himself into the FBI this morning.

There should be a hearing this afternoon to read the charges.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 07:40 AM

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Establishing a national religion and banniing other religions is a populist, unconstitutionl, authoritarian idea. Bolstered by the banning of Trump speech from facebook and twitter, the right feels justified to ban Free Speech by traitors. Traitors are defined as anti Trump voices.

Go big or go home Herr Hitler er I mean General Flynn.
It seems we were already told fake news is not the real press.
As for assembling at Trump rallys, exceptions will be made.
We won't need to petition the government if the right IS the government.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 05:49 AM

One nation under one God is normal in the Middle East so former trump security advisor wants the same for the good ol USA, Texas Christians rejoice

We're gonna hafta burn the old Constitution, for God's sake. Amen

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Nov 21 - 05:27 PM

:^/ alert The Fox channel has a fall line up catering to the Trump base;
Autopsy Wars, Dr. pimple sucker, Wheelchair theives, Tattoo bloopers, Ninja cockroachs, porn hoarders, Epic gun fails, Roadkill barbecue, Skunk people, Meth Boss, Porn Hoarders of Texas, Storage Trash.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Nov 21 - 10:38 AM

Steve Bannon faces federal charges for contempt of Congress

"Bannon is not in custody right now. I'm told he's expected to self-surrender to authorities on Monday and to appear in federal court here in D.C. later that day. Obviously, this is just the start of this prosecution. But it's worth noting here that if Bannon were to be convicted, each count here carries a minimum of 30 days in jail and a maximum of one year."

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Nov 21 - 09:33 AM

On the other hand a two year delay of multiple appeals is possible but not likely.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 21 - 07:03 PM

Bannon is a parasite who thinks he is Kaisar Sosa. He has an anti Midas touch with a bullying force of will. He is not bound by loyalty. He moves from host to host like a virus be it Palin, Cruz and Trump. If he does go to jail he will have fantasies about Hitler getting a reduced sentence and writting his own Mein Kampf. He is not a competant ultimate villain like emporer Papatine but he will still cry betrayal in the end and will become a broken figure like Joe McCarthy/
At least thats what my crystal ball says about Steve. He is not a loyal mob gangster who serves time at the behest of his Godfather. Like Trump he only serves his own interests that are flawed and misguided.
Monday when he surrenders it will be his high sewer water mark, his largest flash in the pan, his 'Waterloo' that will flush him from history.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 21 - 05:17 PM

Bannon is indicted.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 21 - 08:22 AM

Another injunction will delay records of 1-6 until Nov. 30

I just learned The Proud Boys use a Disney tune for their anthem.
They love Rittenhaus. https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/01/14/PMJS/26e0d3b3-1b9e-4813-b9bd-d530508dcee4-Rittenhouse2.JPG?width=660&height=500&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Nov 21 - 05:35 AM

The Presidential records and communications of Trump on 1-6 is to be handed over this Friday to the 1-6 commitee. The judge ruled that a president is not a King and (the plaintif) Trump is not the president with executive powers.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 06:04 PM

The border between Poland and Belarus is firm. The two states are not friendly. Poland is in the EU, Belarus is not and is run by a dictator. There are no agreements between the two regarding free movement between them. The camps you refer to are in Belarus, not the EU, so you are wrong about that. In addition, Lukashenko is not funnelling people "back" to the EU at all (and that is not what I said, by the way). The refugees were never EU residents. Yes, I'm all for getting back to Trump, but let's not get careless with facts. Do take care to choose news sources that are accurate.

What I would say is that there is a humanitarian crisis building, all the work of Lukashenko, but, as with all such crises, it's very difficult to stand on principle when the well-being of thousands of people is threatened. So at the moment I can't quite get my head round what Poland (or the EU) should be doing. What I can get my head round is the fact that Lukashenko will never do the right thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 03:53 PM

Steve, we evidently didn't read the same news this morning. Lukashenko is funneling all of those people back to the EU (as you said) - but this isn't like the US and South America stuff, this is like the US and Mexico or the US and Canada - the borders of a sovereign nation. Not sure if you consider the EU a sovereign nation or a loose affiliation, whatever, but you used to be a part of it - as is Poland - on opposite sides, yes, but still, a part of it. I'd think there's a little appreciation for the old political affiliation. Here's a map. Netherlands, Germany, and Poland are between you and Belarus. 1,300 miles. It's nearly 2,000 from the southern most point of Texas to the northernmost city in Colombia, in South Ameria.

West Accuses Belarus of Orchestrating Migrant Crisis at Polish Border

Poland has massed thousands of troops on its border with Belarus to keep out Middle Eastern migrants who have set up camp there, as Western officials accuse Belarus’s leader of intentionally trying to create a new migrant crisis in Europe.

The standoff along the razor-wire fence separating the two countries has intensified a long-simmering confrontation between Belarus, a repressive former Soviet republic, and the European Union, which includes Poland.

Western officials say that President Aleksandr G. Lukashenko of Belarus is allowing asylum seekers from the Middle East into his country by the thousands and then funneling them westward toward Poland and the E.U., and has escalated that strategy this week. They say he is retaliating against sanctions imposed after his disputed 2020 election victory.

The sharp increase in tensions has rattled European officials, with images of desperate migrants evoking the refugee crisis of 2015. The confrontation with Belarus, a close Russian ally, also raises new security concerns.

E.U. leaders are scrambling to strike a balance between protecting the bloc’s external borders and preventing a worsening humanitarian crisis among the migrants camped along the edge of a forest in freezing weather.

On Tuesday, Polish authorities said, at least 3,000 people who hoped to enter the European Union were gathered near the Kuznica border crossing, near the Belarusian city of Grodno. Hundreds could be seen camped just feet away from the border fence in video footage provided by both sides. In response to the growing numbers, Poland increased its forces in the area to more than 17,000 soldiers, border guards and police, Polish officials said.

The US has it's own awful way of dealing with migrants and refugees. At least the camps are a bit warmer, but that is no benefit. It's just that the EU camps and the advance of winter are in the news now. Trump broke a lot of things here, and it is taking Biden a long time to fix them; Trumps response to the pandemic is part of the reason it's taking so long.

I'm not sure where this was going, but I think it's time to shift back to discussing Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 11:27 AM

Well Belarus is a long way from the United Kingdom. It's a former part of the USSR (which was never in my backyard either) and has never been a member of the EU, so brexit doesn't enter into it. Geographical distance and backyardery are not quite the same thing, taking political allegiances and the method of governance into account as well as proximity. I'm sure you don't regard the countries on the north coast of South America as being in YOUR backyard (they mostly wouldn't like it either).

As for what's happening on the Belarus/Poland border, Lukashenko has given "tourist visas" to potential refugees from Syria and Iraq, positively inviting them in, enabling them to cross the country easily via Minsk to the Polish border. He's done this in retaliation against EU sanctions. Whatever you think of Poland's response, make no bones about who's responsible for this.

And you often tell me that I don't "get" the politics of YOUR backyard...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 10:44 AM

Read the news today of Belarus pushing back against the EU - via Poland's border, grinding refugees between the two of them. It would be your backyard but for Brexit - except proximity didn't change. It's a small world.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 05:12 AM

Trump was ordered to hand over all 1-6 documents to the Congressional commitee and his claim of executive priviledge and overbroad investigation with no public benefit was rejected.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Nov 21 - 02:55 AM

You didn't say Hungary. You said Ukraine, Germany and Italy, none of which has a fascist REGIME. As for Belarus, it's no more "in my backyard" than it's in yours. Most countries probably contain people of fascistic persuasion, but such people don't constitute "regimes" unless they are running the whole country. Let's stick to the facts, eh (and stop digging...)?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 10:27 PM

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/23/529634908/germany-tries-to-root-out-neo-nazis-inside-the-ranks-of-its-military
When a member here posted that Hitler merely "hoodwinked" Germany, I suspect a nazi sympathizer. I am not surprised some Euro eyes are closed to the growing nationalism in Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 09:23 PM

Hungary and Belaruse have strong man fascist regiemes. I would love to have Bannon's communications with them and other large nazi movements.
Bannon bought an Italian monestary for a European base of operations.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 08:55 PM

Prosecutor in Trump camp's effort to reverse Georgia result considering special grand jury

Gwen Keyes Fleming, former DeKalb County, Georgia district attorney, talks with Rachel Maddow about expectations that the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, Fani Willis, will use a special grand jury in the ongoing investigation of Donald Trump's efforts to push Georgia officials to overturn the state's 2020 election results.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 08:13 PM

There are no "Nazi regimes" in Ukraine, Germany or Italy. Ukraine is a democracy closely allied to the EU, operating under the rule of law. It is closely allied to the EU, belonging to the Single Market and the EEA. It has aspirations to join the EU, a wish broadly shared by a majority of its citizens, and is expected to apply for membership in the near future. Germany and Italy are both democracies in the European Union. I regard it as rather insulting for anyone to claim that these countries are run by Nazi regimes, and it appears to betray a certain degree of ignorance. I also find it odd that such an intemperate claim could be made by someone who lives in a country that is gun-crazy, can elect people like Trump, has extremely illiberal abortion laws in many states and which still strings up or electrocutes a good number of its citizens every year. We don't happen to get those things in Ukraine, Germany or Italy, last time I checked...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 04:13 PM

Sarcastic parody takes on current events like in the Onion amuse me but if you want straight up reporting about Steve I would look in your own backyard where Bannon is probably in communication with other nazi regiemes in Ukraine, Germany, Italy and other hotbeds of fascism.
Over here he had a seat at the Insurrection table at the Willard Hotel accross from the White House along with Rudy, Eastman and other coup planners. Is he a danger? I suppose he is as dangerous as we allow him to be. Thats why AG Garland should act quicker in my opinion. Nazis will never 'like' Democrats so we may as well risk martyr worship and put Steve in Jail for contempt of Congress.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 03:36 PM

Sorry Donuel but those outside your view of things do not understand these cryptic comments on a subject that may affect everyone in the world.

Is he going to get nailed or is he still a danger to everyone?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 02:42 PM

Steve Bannon has arrested development evidenced by his 70's hair style and fashion statement. He was sent a supeona by AG Garland, who is more judge than prosecutor, but Steve immediately put it in the bottom of his bird cage.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 10:11 AM

Trump ‘throws sand’ in gears of Capitol attack inquiry amid legal setbacks

Ex-president wages a court battle to thwart House committee from obtaining White House records for inquiry into the Capitol assault

The list of significant legal setbacks is lengthy for the former president and real estate mogul who has long had a reputation for threatening to sue his foes.

Early this year, for example, Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr won a lengthy legal fight to obtain Trump’s tax returns, and in July charged two Trump companies and the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer with a 15 year tax fraud scheme, which the companies and the CFO have denied in pleas.

On 4 November, a second grand jury was convened by Vance to hear more evidence about the financial practices of the Trump Organization and possibly bring more charges, according to the Washington Post.

Trump suffered another legal setback when a New York court ordered him to give a deposition in October that lasted more than four hours in an old lawsuit by men alleging they were attacked in 2015 by Trump security guards at a demonstration outside Trump Tower in Manhattan.

Meanwhile, in his latest high stakes court fight, Trump’s attorneys have launched a legal blitz invoking executive privilege to block the House select committee from obtaining hundreds of pages of documents from the National Archives the committee seeks as it investigates the 6 January Capitol riot and what role Trump played in it.

"A federal judge at a hearing on Trump’s legal challenges on 4 November voiced strong scepticism about his lawyers’ executive privilege claims to keep the committee from getting most of the records it wants, noting that President Joe Biden approved turning them over."

If he wasn't such a nasty S.O.B. his successor might have cut him some slack. Let's just hope this gets far enough before the mid-term elections to help bring a few of the old-fashioned simply conservative GOP candidates out of hiding.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 06:26 AM

gop cartoon murder of democrats

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 04:27 PM

I underwent hypnosis trials in college. I was amazed.
Yes it is easy.
I figure if I got to be a good practioner of hypnosis 4 years later its got to be easy for nearly anyone. Susceptability and effectiveness follows your typical bell shaped curve.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 03:36 PM

Whoa. Brainwashing is easy, apparently.

But anything that is negative isn't Trump's fault. That's kind of what we hear out here in the Hinterland. Living in a red state can be difficult when it comes to common sense.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 02:25 PM

It is hard for me to believe that the guy in the Q yellow T was not just trolling Klepper, but the phrase "Jesus Wept" has occured to me more than once. Don't watch this on a full stomach:

150,000 Percent Sure

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 08:20 AM

America is an experiment. Founding fathers invented a very flawed version but it is getting better at a glacial speed. People who were born here in the 80's do not believe in the American dream of advancement as much as new immigrants. People from the 60's see more evidence of the America dream than younger folks.
Its been 50 years of giving to the rich but today they will be asked to pay their fair share. America is unique in inventing jazz, rock, hop and scientific discoveries that were gleaned globally.
We know who really are the most anti american, and those are the ones who are the anti scientific 'real americans'.
"If you took Ivermectin, you might be anti American".
If you dream of shooting immigrants, you might be anti American. etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 05:45 AM

Muppets Big Bird said it got vaccinated in the wing. Republicans are crying that government propoganda is being used on kids.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 10:54 AM

Democrats can whine if they want but its about time they take a course in messaging. To hell with defund the.. or a succint 27 syllable phrase or even fighting fired with fired.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Nov 21 - 12:53 PM

Back to Trump, in this case, his effect:

Trumpism without Trump: how Republican dog-whistles exploited Democratic divisions

Glenn Youngkin won the Virginia governor’s race by playing dirty over CRT – and the Democrats had no answer [my note: CRT being the non-existent "Critical Race Theory" people are pretending is taught in any K-12 school]

No film director could have choreographed it better. At the very moment Joe Biden emerged from his helicopter into a cold, dark night on the White House south lawn, a new adversary was delivering his victory speech before a hot-blooded crowd in northern Virginia. . . .

The Republican party was back in business, ready to take on a weakened president whose party is racked by infighting. Youngkin showed the way by deploying a formidable new weapon to which Democrats had no answer: a racist culture war fought over children.

The businessman turned politician promised to ban critical race theory (CRT) from Virginia’s schools on his first day in office. It mattered little that CRT, an academic discipline that examines the ways in which racism operates in US laws and society, is not taught in Virginia’s schools.

Moral panic over CRT has been fuelled for more than a year by Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News and other rightwing media, an apparent backlash to racial justice protests that followed the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis last year. In such hands, CRT became a catch-all for any teaching about race and American history.

“It is a very convenient soundbite for encapsulating everything about the reckoning after George Floyd’s death and the Black Lives Matter movement,” said Tanya Hernández, a law professor at Fordham University in New York.

“It is a way censor to gag and suppress any kind of reconsideration of our status quo. . . .

Tara Setmayer, a senior adviser to the Lincoln Project, a group opposed to Donald Trump and Trumpism, said: “Republicans are the masters at finding an issue playing on the racial resentment and grievance within the Republican party base and creating this perception that somehow this is a threat to children, to white America, and some type of invasion of the education system.

“Critical race theory doesn’t even exist here and most people don’t know what it is. But it is a masterclass in how perception is reality and, when propaganda isn’t pushed back on, it can metastasise in ways that become problematic in campaigns. That’s exactly what happened in Virginia.”

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 06:40 PM

Oh, it's £1.50 a litre here, just about, by the way. So that's, near as dammit, $2 per litre your end. I'll let you convert that to your wacky gallons. I make it just a bit shy of $8 per your gallon. You up for that, guys? You pay about half of what we pay...

Your oil guys still have a big grip, innit...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 06:25 PM

Whilst I don't want to divert the thread away from Trump's misdeeds (though I shudder to think about the way we'd be going on climate change had he got a second term), I would like to say that I try to recycle whatever I can (my utility room is cluttered with bags containing separated-out cardboard, paper, bottles, plastic...), I drive a car that routinely does 57 to the gallon, I try to buy organic food and I grow a lot of my own, I have a big garden dedicated to wildlife, etc., etc., I honestly don't know why I'm bothering. China is not going to cut its emissions in any real way anytime soon. India has said cheerfully that it will carry on burning coal for decades to come. Australia won't allow its Australian way of life to be threatened so will continue to supply coal and iron ore to China (Oz is the second-biggest coal exporter in the world). Bolsinaro will continue to allow logging in the Amazon to the extent that the rainforest is now a net carbon emitter rather than a carbon absorber. The US, honestly as seen from this end, doesn't seem to be much interested in the climate crisis (I don't exonerate my own country, by the way). My word, any US politician who, for example, suggested that the price of petrol (gas, yeah?) should go up to even half of what we are paying in the UK would be out on his ear in half an hour...

So there's China, India, Australia, the US... they're not that bothered. So I turn my thermostat down by a degree and shove my plastic milk bottle into the correct slot down the recycling centre. I'll carry on doing it but I'd really like somebody to tell me why I should bother....

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 04:20 PM

The obstacles of climate change are many and the solutions are few.
We missed the 50 year window to respond effectively in lieu of greed.
We won't blame ourselves since we always others so we might blame you.
Some day everyone becomes a refugee and immigrant that we can't feed.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 09:29 AM

Our Prime Minister famously said he didn't hold a hose (he went to Hawaii for a family holiday in the middle of the 2019 bushfires)

He might speak (officially) for the country but a majority don't agree with him 7 in 10 Australians want government to take more action on climate, survey finds

With a net zero plan in his bag, Scott Morrison heads for the COP26 conference in Glasgow amid a climate policy storm

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 21 - 08:36 AM

At the end of W's Presidency the deregulated Wall Street caused many people to lose their home of many years or go underwater if they still owed money. This event is stuck in the minds of Americans in the form of mistrust and a hatred of government. Now lately the new medicine turned out to be highly addictive unto death. That caused a little more distrust and feeling less than happy.

Enter Donald Trump who can't tell the truth for sixty seconds but exploits distrust and hate. It was easy to believe his claims that they were lied to and dark skinned people are the cause.

A miracle vaccine? Its got to be a lie, even Facebook says so.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Oct 21 - 05:39 AM

Well when it comes to carbon dioxide emissions, Australia and the US should be good friends. The Oz prime minister stated last week that he wouldn't threaten "the Australian way of life" by cutting coal production and exports. I don't think he's noticed his heatwaves, droughts and wildfires. And here's something else: steelmaking is one of the biggest carbon emitters, around 8% of all greenhouse gases. China is by far the world's biggest steel producer, producing eight times more steel that the next biggest. Guess who gets lots of that Oz coal (which you need to make steel). Every ton of steel made produces 1.8 tons of carbon dioxide. Even more: to make steel you need iron ore. Sixty percent of the ore that China uses comes from, guess where...Australia. Enjoy your Australian way of life, you Aussies. It won't be lasting as long as you think...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Oct 21 - 12:28 AM

Consumers fume after US Postal Service suspends Australian deliveries publ. Oct 1

USPS Suspends Package Services to Australia Due to COVID-19 Outbreak published Sept 3, with comments from late October

sniff, cry ...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 21 - 09:49 PM

I know you are a continent but our Postmaster General DeJoie thinks you are an island.
I think he has a private deal and kick back from Fed Ex.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 21 - 09:34 PM

Oz can mail anything to us because their postal system still works.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 21 - 09:16 PM

Sorry Australia, I know you are a great country and friend but we will no longer mail anything to you anymore nor will we have an Ambassador to your country.
Republicans will not allow it.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 21 - 01:08 PM

A Trump 2020 victory Cruise thru the Bermuda Triangle got canceled due to loss of interest and Covid. Loser Cruisers dodged an iceburg in Bermuda then vanished

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 21 - 09:43 AM

Greene had been a member of congress for three whole days and was already conducting tours of the US Capitol. She certainly got right to work for The Donald.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 21 - 06:47 AM

That news has begun talk of an expulsion of members of Congress by other members. Getting it right is paramount to getting it fast.
Cooberation of evidence makes for a stronger case but fact fatigue may make many bury their head in the sand. Timing a bombshell news release is always a factor but is hard to crystal ball the impact.

We knew back in January that Greene conducted tour groups in the capitol bld. that was deemed against the Covid rules days before Jan 6.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 10:59 PM

A story that hit Rolling Stone on Sunday places members of Congress with the planners of the January 6 insurrection, but the mainstream media hasn't reported yet. I'm hoping it's just a fact-checking thing, but after a day or more and nothing, it gives one pause. EXCLUSIVE: Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff

Two sources are communicating with House investigators and detailed a stunning series of allegations to Rolling Stone, including a promise of a “blanket pardon” from the Oval Office

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 07:33 PM

Just in case you thought I was kidding: https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22225538/capitol-insurrection-riot-sweatshirts-hats
The NYT is better but has a paywall

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 06:16 PM

The thousands of Trump campaign T shirts that said MAGA 2020 CIVIL WAR are interesting no? They were made before Pense chickened out.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 06:09 PM

Trump repeatedly urged Pense to listen to Eastman. Eastman lacked several things like real election fraud, any alternate electors and a stealing of the certified electoral ballots. Congressional staffers had hidden them from rioters.