BS: Trump Actions & Effects (NO new Trmp threads!)

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 21 - 06:58 PM

It seems Devin Nunes feelings were hurt by mean Tweets.

Trump Justice Dept. Tried to Use Grand Jury to Identify Nunes Critic on Twitter

An unsealed court filing shows that the social media company fought the subpoena, which the Biden administration is said to have withdrawn.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department under President Trump secretly obtained a grand-jury subpoena last year in an attempt to identify the person behind a Twitter account dedicated to mocking Representative Devin Nunes of California, according to a newly unsealed court document.

But Twitter fought the subpoena, as well as an associated gag order barring the company from talking about it publicly. Twitter executives raised skepticism about whether the Justice Department might be abusing federal criminal law-enforcement power to retaliate against a critic of Mr. Nunes, a Republican who is a close ally of Mr. Trump, in violation of the First Amendment.

Ultimately, according to a person familiar with the matter, the Justice Department withdrew the subpoena this spring, after President Biden took office.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 21 - 07:15 PM

Poor Devin. I hear his wife is a Genie and his grandfather was the SS butcher of Cyprus. Mean tweets are the bane of his existence.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 19 May 21 - 07:42 AM

SDNY had their spokesperson announce that the Donald Trump Organization is now facing criminal charges.

Subject: BS: Audit Fever break out
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 21 - 09:17 AM

In the Republican audit of the Trump defeat in Arizona in search of counterfeit ballots - which I call the Trump audit of the audit of the audit of the recount - The concept of republican election audits has caught fire and has spread to 12 other States by way of seminars conducted by Republican think tank 'Heritage Foundation'.

The audit idea may not end there. Results of every kind of contest may soon come into question, like baseball games reviewing balls and strikes by expert Q republicans. This could spread to the UK to review and decide football games post game. Maybe it will replace peer review in the science community. :^I It might take weeks to decide the winners of the Super Bowl. As for Basketball forgettaboutit.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-audit-2020-election-recount-gop-maricopa-county/

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 12:40 PM

Trump's former National Security Advisor has called for a military coup in the USA similar to Miranmar.

General Flynn says he believes Trump will be reinstated by Aug.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 01:00 PM

Netanyahu is on his way out - and perhaps headed to prison. Harbingers of things to come, one hopes.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 03:03 PM

The flight to the right is still quivering and not yet ready to take a pendulum reversal of direction.
Like our pole shift, it occurs intermittantly and chaoticly before a full change of direction.
Bebe needs to spend more time with his pets and family. I'm pretty sure Argentina would permit his exile without extradition.
But I'm not certain.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 01:38 AM

Who would have guessed that six months after the election there would still be talk of the legitimacy of it. I certainly did not. Oh, I accepted that the Orange One would still be bloviating but it never occurred to me that there would be a group of significant size.

Or that so many of our legislators would be such despicable creatures. As fiction it would be a bad play. As Real Life, it stinks.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 21 - 02:41 PM

in only 29 days
Poor ol Trump aka 'baby jesus' has closed his blog after it had less traffic than petfinder.com

The thing about lieing is that it can NEVER be confessed to be a lie.
The LIE must stay alive forever,
or it can suddenly die.

sounds like lyrics dontit?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 05:09 AM

Ebbie, my GUESS is that if USA is stupid enough to re-elect him, he would not recognise the legitimacy/legality of the Biden administration, and would sign a raft of executive orders ranging from undoing the good of the next four years, to the downright insane, bypassing both houses.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 05:23 AM

Trump isn't waiting for an election. He is still issuing presidential decrees and is planning a coup in August.
If I'm liein you're diein.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 01:14 PM

Banned from Facebook for two years. Karma!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 01:18 PM

Ready aim FIRE, Republicans all fling their dirty underwear against the wall but they all slide off. Nothing is sticking to Biden so they are going to take aim at Dr. Fauci instead. You are about to see an attack on Fauci as never before.

Republicans who will do their worst will be Pompeo, McConnel and all the usual suspects who will take turns with their dagger.
Assasination politics no longer refers to reputation but to life itself.


FACEBOOK will ban Trump for 2 more years

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 01:23 PM

Maybe his diet of Big Macs and Diet Coke will kill him off by then and the topic will be moot.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jun 21 - 06:57 AM

Reputation assasination politics has turned its guns at Dr. Fauci, possibly because republicans can't get anything to stick to Joe.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Jun 21 - 02:10 PM

The usual suspects have taken to character assassination of not only their own (Liz Cheney), but are heavily into throwing everything at Kamala Harris, similarly to their campaign, which I think was quite successful, against Hilary Clinton.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jun 21 - 03:10 PM

News flash: The US has the ability to go after ransomware criminals and steal back the money the criminals stole via breaking into bitcoin accounts. Supposedly this is what was done in the colonial pipeline attack.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jun 21 - 06:34 PM

The sore loser party is supported by a Republican party who no longer can say the word insurrection out loud.

I say rip off the band aid. You don't want a drip drip drip story until 2024.

OBEY BIG
BROTHER T
WATCH FOX
4 FREE
or die

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 18 Jun 21 - 02:20 PM

Here is a truly marvelous outcome of Trump actions aided by actions of the Republican Party:

The inimitable Nina Totenberg reports from NPR on the recent Supreme Court judgment: OBAMACARE wins for the 3rd time at the Supreme Court

Stephen Colbert opined on this last night in his monologue- The Supreme Court found that the objection, posed by Republicans, that the Obamacare Legislation was unconstitutional had been foiled by Republican legislation opposing Obamacare.

Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett were part of the majority opinion.

This situation is rife with concentrated irony. I'm not aware if Trmp himself has or is able to comment intelligently on the phenomenon.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jun 21 - 07:52 PM

There is a touch of irony there but Supream Court decisions for dummies
would simply say that the republican plantiffs could not demonstrate any harm or damages so the court said "no way". ACA stands.

I do not see any charges against the rich and powerful yet but only the unwashed whitepower insurrectionists. Even Wiesenberg hasn't flipped yet. I would prefer prosecutions from the top down. I'll risk martyrdom
for the Donald.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 21 - 08:50 AM

After he punished and destroyed Kathy Griffin Trump thought his justice dept could kill SNL and Alec Baldwin.

Thou shall not mock ME
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-if-doj-fcc-could-punish-snl-after-mocking-report-2021-6

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jun 21 - 11:04 AM

Griffin shouldn't have backed down. She was within her comedic rights to do that. She weakened her brand when she buckled.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 21 - 02:08 PM

What was she to do, sue the secret service? Didn't they put her on the no fly, buy or cry list?
Class C entertainers/celebrites don't have a strong brand to begin with. Perhaps she could do Kraft artificial cheese commercials to go with her box of whine. Victimization became her brand but she bravely persisted. I prefer the courage of a George Carlin to a Lenny Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 07:14 AM

Apron fat, sometimes called Dunlop's Syndrome, is a condition where obese people have abdominal fat subcutaneously detach and hangs loosely from the body. This is what has happened to Mr. Trump along with his 60 lb. weight gain since leaving the White House. This is evidenced by his recent appearence when people thought he was wearing his pants backwards. What looked like his backside was actually apron fat or Dunlop's Syndrome where his detached fat 'done lops over his belt'.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 02:50 PM

I saw someone like that in 'bucks pre-Covid and I was assured he was packing (had a gun on his person) by someone who also had a gun on his person (in a holster). (There should be a thread about people who carry firearms to coffee shops). I saw no evidence of a weapon, but didn't want to be thought to be staring. Maybe that's a new way to carry - wear a fat suit or portion thereof. It was part of a murder plot in Monk, not the carrying part but the wearing of a fat suit.

If Trump has really packed on the pounds since being out of office, is that going to affect his 200 year life span ?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 05:15 PM

Sorry to post after posting but some folks have no problem with that. Possibly Dontrumpuel, who indicated that the ex Prez has added 3 score of the avoirdupois since being 'fired' in January. According to this soure he has not put on pounds, he has been taking them off. The writer is scared that a trim Trmp is a re-electable Trmp.

Robo, who wonders how many spare pounds Dontrumpuel has to play with and if it is affecting his extra laps. Or lops. Maybe if there is no 'factual' weight to his posts, the weight is more 'actual'.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 06:19 PM

I'll send you a photo if you dare open it, I'll be holding the newest Washington Post. No wrinkles full head of blonde hair and a 6ft 210 stature of good posture. The only life extending drug I take is Metformin. Like you, I avoid strong sunlight. Unlike you I'm straight.
I think Trump is closest to the Pearly gates In the middle of his next 24 campaign. After that he will be sent to L.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 06:34 PM

And now Rudolph Giuliani is having misconduct charges
broadcast across the nation.
What a day.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 08:30 PM

He is not disbarred yet but he is not allowed to pracice law in NY.
PA is next.

Pictures speak louder than words and the robo link had none. The picture of 'pants on backwards' is demonstrable of Donnies wt.gain.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 10:55 PM

Well, just saying, Dontrumpuel, YOU came up with the figure of 60 pounds of weight gain. So presumably you had a source. You have yet to Don-u-ment the posts I have called attention to.

Pictures may speak louder than words but sourced numbers speak louder .

Your little asides and add-ons to your posts full of assumptions stated as facts merely add to your Trumpiness. You are truly Trump's avatar in this forum.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 07:25 AM

You may still believe in the words from the Trumpiverse if you wish.
I elect Donald J Trump to be a contestant on the TV show 'The Sorest Loser'

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 01:18 PM

What is very interesting and not being too much reported on is:

Those political and administrative holdings that have NOT changed between the Trump administration and the Biden administration. I'm following several items but right now I'm not sure if they can be considered things that the new administration is maintaining because:

A) They can't change them.
B) They don't want to change them.
C) They want to change them but the appearance of policy drift would be a greater penalty.

I'll never forget a conversation I had with some Africans many years ago (last millenium) where they credited the United States with being able to make progress in the world and within its borders because each new administration was willing to build on the work of the previous ones, even if they were different parties, whereas in their country and the ones they were familiar with, each new administration undid the work of the previous ones, either out of spite, ignorance, or the need to change the pockets absorbing the grift.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 04:22 PM

We will maintain a Trump evacuation of our troops and helpers from Afghanistan, we will NOT abandon Democracy and replace with kings for life. I know Qanon disagrees but thats just tough.
It is going to be a Biden withdrawl because Trump made no plan - only a declaration.
The rest of us need to understand white rage, white nationalism and the lure of Nazism the conservative junta lunatic fringe that attacked ourcapitol crapped in it and crept out when they couldn't find leaders to kill, hang or kidnap..

here is a quote from General Milley in his own words

Saying Trump did it is too easy. It may turn out that I am wrong but we have to defend having knowledge as opposed to accepting lies.
Why Milley has to defend knowledge is because of people like Tom Cotton, Matt Gaetz, Greene and the usual mediocre men are investigation our military as to who is the woke progressive soldiers they need to eliminate. There were 120 military officers who signed a
letter saying the election was fraudulent.

Similar to Hitlerism the enemy is being defined as the intellectuals or the well informed. Its not just the Blacks,Jews or Catholics.
The mouths of the MAGA maggots are spewing corrosive lies and their ears are sealed. When thy say something I can't understand it is a failure of their education, not mine. Those snowflake white men are incapable of taking critique, are capableofdolingout infamous repudiatons of the humanity of the other, yet they call us snowflakeswhilethey are the biggest flakes of snow on Earth. They are incapable of criticism, they are incapable of tolerating difference they are afraid that critical race theory will kill their KKK or relatives. They are allowed to wax and rant about means or rationality and reality yet they cannot evensave themselves with a vaccine shot. Iamtired of hearing mediocre white men excoriate women, trans, gays, and blacks or Anything that is not them.
We have to seize the discourse of empathy and go to a political gathering and take back the rhetoric of this country. I can read the fascist propoganda but it doesn't make me a white white rager and attack the capitol. Its necessary for us to be open minded and let the majority to take the lead because the white men like Josf hFawly and Mitch McConnel are fucking it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 06:44 PM

breaking news: The entire Trump Org. will be indicted next week by NY DA.
This is just an opening salvo by calling a bluff possibly because Weisenberg has not flipped.

now back to my unedited rushed rant...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 21 - 07:32 PM

here is a quote from General Milley in his own words
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007831214/milley-critical-race-theory-military.html


Saying Trump did it is too easy. Its the small men . It is the self serving liars who are frightening their herd of sheep. It may turn out that I am wrong but we now have to defend simply having knowledge as opposed to accepting lies.
Why Milley has to defend knowledge is because of people like Tom Cotton, Matt Gaetz, Greene and the usual mediocre men are investigation our military as to who are the woke progressive soldiers they need to eliminate. There were 120 military officers who signed a letter saying the election was fraudulent. This sounds like loyalists in favor of a coup.

Similar to Hitlerism the enemy is being defined as the intellectuals or the well informed. Its not just the Blacks, Jews or Catholics.
The mouths of the MAGA maggots are spewing corrosive lies and their ears are sealed. When they say something I can't understand it is a failure of their education, not mine. Those snowflake white men are incapable of taking critique, they are capable of infamous repudiatons of the humanity of the other, yet they call us snow flakes while they are the biggest flakes of snow on Earth. They are incapable of criticism, they are incapable of tolerating difference, they are afraid that critical race theory will kill their KKK, oathkeepers or relatives. They are allowed to wax and rant about conspiracy or rationality and reality yet they cannot even save themselves with a vaccine shot. I am tired of hearing mediocre white men excoriate women, trans, gays and blacks or Anything that is not them.
We have to seize the discourse of empathy and go to political gatherings and take back the rhetoric of this country. I can read the fascist propoganda but it doesn't make me a white white nationalist and attack the capitol. Its necessary for us to be open minded and let the true majority take the lead because the white men like Josh Hawley and Mitch McConnel are flubbing it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 09:55 AM

MçMacafee reminds me how Trump could meet his end, if he had the courage.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Charmion
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 10:19 AM

Gen. Milley believes in knowing his enemy.

Those who criticize him for his habit of wide-ranging reading might meet the definition of “enemy”.

Just sayin’.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 10:41 AM

The "can't change them" policies are still getting a stress test, I think. For example, I hope soon the Postal board of governors fires DeJoy; Biden can't, only the board can, and he has the majority of board members now. Please do it soon - the post office needs a lot of recovery help.

It sounds like Attorney General Garland has taken the reigns after studying things for a while and is gradually clearing out Trump appointees (some may simply be reassigned because they can't be fired) and is now starting the sue the states with the discriminatory voting laws just put into effect. See Georgia as the first of what I hope will be many.

Biden can't do everything at once, and not with just his pen. It's better if legislation is in place, and better if the agencies can do their jobs. More durable. Too bad we can't erase Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Jun 21 - 04:24 PM

I still think the observation of what 'hasn't changed' is worth careful observation. It goes away from Trump a little, in that it is a show of what Democrats either are 'afraid to touch' or 'glad it happened':

Of course the Supreme Court selections:
Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett. I don't think the issue of 'packing the court' is a realistic one. There are multi-sided face-offs here:
Fear-mongering Republicans either Trummpies or none
Progressive Dems raising the issue
Centrist Dems not pressihng the issue

Since the current face-off within the court is 6-3 in favor of what are considered the conservatives over the liberals, packing the court to reverse this perception would require a 7-6 selection to say the least, so we'd have to go from 9 to 13 justices to make a 'worthwhile' political difference, which means getting the change made and getting four new justices. I do not see this as even close to realistic. It may have made sense for the Democrats to leave this option theoretically on the table prior to a general election in order to keep the Progressives with the Centrists (I am bundling everyone not a Progressive into the Centrist category), but I don't think this issue plays out in local politics anywhere. So as far as Democrats go, until a general election, it's gone.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jun 21 - 01:39 PM

D.C. Prosecutors Set Their Targets on Don Jr.’s Posse

Recent filings made by the AG’s office show that the probe is starting to home in on the actions of Trump’s longtime financial confidant and others.

“The world’s about to learn how Trump’s inner circle—with Trump’s full knowledge—took advantage of the presidential inauguration,” said Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, who helped put together inaugural events and is now a lead witness for the government in this case.

“Everything they did was all about self-dealing. They had a nonprofit pay them for their own hotel at an inflated cost,” she told The Daily Beast.

I've been reading Winston Wolkoff's book - she has done some amazing organizing in the past, but the Trump folks brought her in then ignored her recommendations and shoveled money into their own coffers as fast as they could, hoping apparently to leave her holding the bag. She kept detailed records, she kept receipts. And when she wrote the book, she basically goes step by step through what happened. And Melania is as corrupt as the rest of them, though she supposedly had Winston Wolkoff come in as a favor to her. For a while it was Melania trying to wrest control of some of it from the kids, but it wasn't really.

“I didn’t understand why anything was being done for the kids. It’s not a birthday party. This is for the United States of America swearing in the most powerful executive in the world,” Winston Wolkoff, who said she had to awkwardly jockey to block the creation of events that were clearly self-dealing, like Junior’s hunting-themed “Sportsman’s Ball” and Ivanka’s “Ladies Luncheon.”

“Why is Ivanka bringing together 100 influential women when she’s not on the Cabinet?” she said. “These kids were doing events for themselves... by them, for them, with them... with other people’s money meant for a nonprofit.”

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jun 21 - 02:45 PM

SRS: Looks like an interesting book. I had not considered Melania in the same ethical zone as her mate and his kin. One of my goto guys back during the campaign classified her as an abused woman (and this does not negate that poss/probability) and she kinda went off my smell radar.

And, apropos of Melania's entrance to the thread:

"Kill him in front of me and I sex you"

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jun 21 - 04:17 PM

Donald is too çhicken to fight
And don't call me Leslie.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jun 21 - 10:52 PM

Ivanka as a culprit in the Trump White House affair of Who stashed the missing $160 Million:

Documents Show Ivanka Trump Didn’t Testify Accurately in Inauguration Scandal Case

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 21 - 01:03 PM

I see Trump as a Bill Cosby, guilty as hell but is now free due to a technicality.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jun 21 - 05:25 PM

Trump Organization and CFO Allen Weisselberg Expected to Be Charged Thursday

Wall Street Journal has a paywall, so here's the first part of the article:

The Manhattan district attorney’s office is expected to charge the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer with tax-related crimes on Thursday, people familiar with the matter said, which would mark the first criminal charges against the former president’s company since prosecutors began investigating it three years ago.

Any charges against the Trump Organization and Allen Weisselberg, the company’s longtime chief financial officer, would be a blow to former President Donald Trump, who has fended off multiple criminal and civil probes during and after his presidency. But the initial charges won’t implicate Mr. Trump himself, his lawyer said, falling short of expectations about the high-profile probe that included a battle over his tax returns decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in the prosecutors’ favor.

The defendants are expected to appear in court on Thursday, the people said.

The Trump Organization and Mr. Weisselberg are expected to face charges related to allegedly evading taxes on fringe benefits, the people said. For months, the Manhattan district attorney’s office and New York state attorney general’s office have been investigating whether Mr. Weisselberg and other employees illegally avoided paying taxes on perks—such as cars, apartments and private-school tuition—that they received from the Trump Organization.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 21 - 09:24 PM

No bank in the world loans money to companies under indictment.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jul 21 - 12:13 AM

Oh, look! Jared Kushner is going to publish ‘definitive’ book on Trump presidency. Perhaps it will end up in a boxed set with the blank pages of Sarah Palin: Going Rouge (yes, "rouge," not "rogue.") Two novelty books.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Jul 21 - 06:00 AM

Can't wait to read the musings of an incompetent dilettante slumlord.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 21 - 10:03 AM

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 21 - 12:39 PM

America the land that never was but must be. Villains and heros come and go. Today again it has a national idea that is grafted to a shadow. The world is a better place to merely dream of an America despite the occaisional nightmares.