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BS: Trump Actions and Effects

Helen 27 Feb 21 - 06:36 PM
Stilly River Sage 27 Feb 21 - 06:05 PM
McGrath of Harlow 10 Feb 21 - 07:36 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 06:36 PM

I think the statue is a good representation of the Trumpster. Tacky, overdone, silly, unflattering, in-your-face and difficult to ignore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 06:05 PM

CPAC in Orlando Looks to Be the Saddest, Stupidest CPAC Yet

The annual GOP clusterfuck is underway and the Trump kids are having a ball. Their father will speak and there's also a golden statue that matches the toilets in his various homes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 07:36 PM

Does the Senate's decision that the trial is constitutional carry constitutional weight? I'd was have thought that it does, and that in any future scenario it would be a pretty decisive precedent.

In which case there is no room for a Senator who voted for acquittal to argue that this was because they believed that it was unconstitutional, because this has already bee determined. The only thing they have any right to consider is guilt or inocence as charged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 04:40 PM

Or should a statue be erected so that the pigeons have something to sh!t on?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 04:31 PM

When trump dies, should his body be disposed of in a secret location,
like other notorious rogue leaders/dictators...???

Does America really need a grand monument to rally round in memory of him...???????


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 03:08 PM

Now that you mention it.....Yes! :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 02:55 PM

"his lawyer Bruce Castor, who gave a rambling argument, wore an ill-fitting suit..."

Agent Orange should be flattered that his lawyer used him as his role-model.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 02:36 PM

I just read an Oz ABC News article which mentioned that Trump is now facing criminal charges from New York and Georgia for attempting to influence the elections.

In answer to a reader's question, "What is Trump doing whilst all this is going on?" the journalist said:

"Trump was probably doing the same as yesterday and watching it unfold on TV, and that 'apparently he was none too pleased with his defence team's performance yesterday'.

"He was 'basically screaming,' according to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins.

" 'Trump was especially disappointed in the performance of his lawyer Bruce Castor, who gave a rambling argument, wore an ill-fitting suit and at one point praised the case presented by the Democratic House impeachment managers,' two people involved in the effort told the Washington Post."

Trump “had expected a swashbuckling lawyer and instead watched what was a confusing and disjointed performance".


I guess the suit his lawyer was wearing is of the ultimate importance??!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 01:25 PM

During the discussion of the presentations ahead they said they assume families will be watching these hearings together, and will try to give warnings ahead of time for any graphic content so parents can decide if their children should see it. It seems that blood and death and damage are going to be part of the evidence, which is appropriate in this. Maybe they can shame the GOP into voting their conscience and not acquitting Trump out of fear of his "base."


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 09 Feb 21 - 06:26 AM

For me, how easily ordinary people are, and historically have been swept along by right wing extremism and other forms of radicalisation should be a cause for concern.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 21 - 01:43 AM

The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists

We analyzed 193 people arrested in connection with the January 6 riot—and found a new kind of American radicalism.

On January 6, a mob of about 800 stormed the U.S. Capitol in support of former President Donald Trump, and many people made quick assumptions regarding who the insurrectionists were. Because a number of the rioters prominently displayed symbols of right-wing militias, for instance, some experts called for a crackdown on such groups. Violence organized and carried out by far-right militant organizations is disturbing, but it at least falls into a category familiar to law enforcement and the general public. However, a closer look at the people suspected of taking part in the Capitol riot suggests a different and potentially far more dangerous problem: a new kind of violent mass movement in which more “normal” Trump supporters—middle-class and, in many cases, middle-aged people without obvious ties to the far right—joined with extremists in an attempt to overturn a presidential election.

To understand the events of January 6 and devise solutions to prevent their recurrence, Americans need a fine-grained comprehension of who attacked the Capitol. Understanding the ideology and beliefs of those who commit political violence is important, but so is knowing what kind of people they are and what their lives are like.

For the past decade and a half, our research team at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats has conducted demographic studies of international and domestic terrorists.


The rest is at the link.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 21 - 09:01 PM

I can't find the damn thing now after 15 minutes' searching, and it's past my bedtime, but I hear that a poll concluded that only a narrow majority think that Trump should be convicted/punished (maybe you can find it). He still has masses of supporters, and that should worry us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 21 - 08:29 PM

Oh sure... not enough Republicans are brave enough to vote to convict. It IS a useful way to make a point, though.
I am waiting for all the state indictments that will be filed after the show trial... I think Letitia James has over 60... and Georgia is working on some.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 21 - 07:52 PM

The feeling this end is that Trump is almost certain to be acquitted by the Senate. Whatever else happens, you have to find a way of preventing him from standing in 2024. I can't help feeling that the danger is far from over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Feb 21 - 10:51 AM

I have that book in my tablet but haven't started it yet. It sounds fascinating (there was a blog on the same topic, which is why she expanded it into book form).

From The Guardian

"It was not just May who found Trump unsettling: to European diplomatic observers, he seemed a “strange creature”. And he also triggered alarm among some American officials in the room with him, with one defence official noting that the president’s notoriously short attention span suggested a “squirrel careening through the traffic”."

How Donald Trump's hand-holding led to panicky call home by Theresa May


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Feb 21 - 04:53 PM

Interesting you bring up Rachel Maddow. My hiking buddy is reading Bag Man and is getting me to read it, too. It's about Spiro Agnew and apparently has much to recommend it as an example of how things have NOT changed all that much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Feb 21 - 12:30 AM

Tonight on the Rachel Maddow Show she's talking about how Trump refuses to call himself the former president. He has set up the office of the 45th President of the US, he's still using the presidential seal. I wonder how long he'll get away with that BS.

Pence has set up an office of the former Vice President, something like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 08:40 PM

Trmp resigns from Screen Actors Guild

He wrote a blatant letter in which the oprative phrase from his point of view is: "You have done nothing for me."

Pretty much sums up his attitude.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 08:19 AM

Psychologicaly when a person's emotions are broken, a secondary paranoia can overwhelm an individual. For example a black person in the US experiences many examples of law enforcement attacking and killing people like themselves and begin to generalize that all law enforcement are murdering bastards. Now after the attack on the capitol many white people have experienced for the first time that members of law enforcement among the mob were willing to put in jeopardy or kill them is a shock to their psyche. Learning the likelihood that the police can be the enemy is new to many white people who were not inclined to be criminals. Eventually a person can see personal attacks everywhere until physical health is also endangered.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:50 PM

The plaintiff, Dominion Voting machines, claims damages including death threats, financial loss and could sue Trump directly and not just Rudy and lieing 'news' channels. Sorry you don't like color Helen or seeing other people's true colors. Good on you. The sun is back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 04:40 PM

1.3 Billion dollar lawsuits speak louder than lies.
News Max channel has supported the the election conspiracy lie by Trump for years but now they have changed their reporting. A bit too late imo


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 03:11 PM

Thank you, O anonymous and legendary mudelf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 02:06 PM

Can we get back to the topic of the thread please? Any personal comments about behaviour should be about the Trump, surely, and not about people posting here.

Looking on the bright side, Trump's current actions and effects have far less influence now than they did a couple of weeks ago, although I wouldn't put his influence out to pasture just yet because he is still plotting and planning in his dark, dank robber's cave. On the other hand, Trump's past actions are still reverberating, not least of which is the criminal (IMO) failure to protect the American people from harm, especially from COVID but also from insurrection.

The impeachment trial probably won't appear to achieve the desired outcome, but the fact that it is going ahead on 8 Feb is an outcome in itself. I'm looking forward to seeing the civil actions against him after that is over.



Off topic posts thinned out - please do stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 12:30 PM

so full of sturm and drang signifying nothing

Meanwhile back at his resort ..... contorts the truth

I'd rather be
a deputy
of Biden than a prisoner
of the trump
Joe lets us in
Knows where we've been
In his empathy and truth
From DC
I'd ask my friends
To come and see
A Senate passing good laws
With me
I'd like to be
happy and free
With a Biden's White House
In the shade
We would be warm
Below the storm
In our little happy home
where we live
Singing out loud
and feeling so proud
In a democratic land
Near the sea
We would sing
And could bring
Equality
to share the joy of life
I'd like to be
a deputy
of Biden than a prisoner
of trump's autocracy
We would shout
And swim about
the the lakes and clean shores
Of our seas


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 10:34 AM

"I will never disclose a private message. Its a matter of respect."

Neither have I, or ever would..

Did I copy and paste your PM here..???

No, that would have been a breach of confidence..

But when a pattern begins to emerge of an individual abusing the PM system
to conduct secretive grudge agendas..

Then it is fair to refer to such snidey PMs in public forum..


I've made it clear many times before that I do not to use PMs,
unless I reply politely to any worth responding to..
I always prefer open transparent communications here in mudcat threads..

So, it is you who needs to treat the PM system with proper due respect...!!!

More and more similarities between you and trump are becoming revealed...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 10:00 AM

An IQ of 80 does not make me a genius, nor have I ever claimed such misinformation as yours pfr. Lets stick to ideas and not fear or anger if you can.

I will never disclose a private message. Its a matter of respect.

As for the sociopaths in society they often hold high positions and seldom obey rules.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 09:44 AM

Perhaps you noticed Empathy is not considered an emotion.
Without empathy more or less degrees of sociocpathology emerge.
Some got it and some don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 09:29 AM

Truthfully I am not well read. I have had to memorize in an audible fashion and other tricks to circumvent the effects of dyslexia and migraine since birth. At 58 the migraines vanished. Woo HOO
Scientists suggest left angular gyrus irregularities but with such strong effects on the eyes I believe migraines have an occipital connection with hormone disruption.

Some of us have noticed that Donald Trump has damaged emotions. It is a complex issue that I would think first requires knowing where that damage effects a person in their brain.

1. Happiness activates several areas of the brain, including the right frontal cortex, the precuneus, the left amygdala, and the left insula. This activity involves connections between awareness (frontal cortex and insula) and the “feeling center” (amygdala) of the brain.

2. Fear activates the bilateral amygdala, the hypothalamus and areas of the left frontal cortex. This involves some thinking (frontal cortex), a “gut” feeling (amygdala), and a sense of urgency typically associated with survival (the hypothalamus.)

3. Sadness is associated with increased activity of the right occipital lobe, the left insula, the left thalamus the amygdala and the hippocampus. The hippocampus is strongly linked with memory, and it makes sense that awareness of certain memories is associated with feeling sad.

Sadness has been studied more than the other emotions because depression may last for a long time; the effects of antidepressants can be measured based on improved symptoms.

4. Disgust is an interesting feeling that is often associated with avoidance. This emotion that is associated with activation and connections between the left amygdala, the left inferior frontal cortex, and the insular cortex.

5. Anger is an important emotion that many people, adults and children alike, try to control. Anger is associated with activation of the right hippocampus, the amygdala, both sides of the prefrontal cortex and the insular cortex.

6. Surprise is an emotion that can either make you feel good or it can make you feel bad. Surprise activates the bilateral inferior frontal gyrus and the bilateral hippocampus. The hippocampus is strongly associated with memory, and the element of surprise is, by nature, associated with experiencing something that you do not remember or do not expect.

Localized disease in the brain can cause cross over cascading events to other areas of emotion.

definitions and location of emotions is from Neurologic review
https://www.neurologylive.com/view/how-brain-processes-emotions


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 08:40 AM

Chronicaling true events is crucial to have a consensus of understanding. Opinion might be next. Parody is further down the line of importance but it amuses me. Science fiction was my first interest.
Vast general knowledge is much less marketable than focused expertise. Jack of all trades-master of none.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 10:17 PM

Under Trump effects: one of the three officers who have died during or following the January 6, 2021 coup Trump orchestrated honored.

Capitol Police Office Brian Sicknick is lying in state in the US Capitol as of tonight (he died at 9:30 the night after the assault on the Capitol, so they returned him at 9:30 tonight).

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963336791/brian-sicknick-capitol-police-officer-slain-in-riot-will-lie-in-honor-in-rotunda


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Helen
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 09:40 PM

Donuel, I always think your posts are worth reading - even if I miss some of the allusions to USA-specific topics. Creative, quirky, humourous, sometimes a bit sharp, always well-read with a broad general knowledge and sometimes specific knowledge of certain topics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 05:28 PM

In the summer before the inauguration of Abraham Lincoln, Washington DC was known as the city of a thousand Stinks! Cows grazed on the White House pasture and chamber pots spilled into the streets. Dirt roads like Constitution Ave. churned the smelly rainy runoff into an applesauce of mud. The Washington canal poured an open fetid raw sewerage to 'aromatize' the entire pioneer city with an equality of stench. The mood of the country was turning muddier in November when Lincoln lost the popular vote but squeaked out a win by the electoral college. Lincoln won only by a plurality in 1861 because there were 3 candidates. The fights in the Senate Chamber preceded 1861 by a number of months. The largest Slave trading auctions in the nation took place until 1850 on what we now call the Mall. Even the statue atop the capitol was made by slaves.

Like today, back in 1861 troops were quartered in the US Capitol. Things in Washington still stink in regards to racism, institutional slavery and election results. In 1861 Fights took place on the Senate floor when a South Carolina Senator beat a fellow Senator after an anti slavery speech. A new President Lincoln faced long odds and an eventual stink of hundreds of thousands of rotting corpses in battle fields across the nation. The call of the south shall rise has never gone silent. Some of the modern attackers of the capitol last month had great grandfathers registered in the Confederate Army

In the first Civil War, the South was desperately lacking the manufacturing capabilities which spelled eventual defeat. They even had to smuggle printing plates to print money that were made in New Jersey. The lead for bullets and weapons came from England but that soon came to an end with a Blockade by the Union Navy. But today The South has oil and manufacturing factories like Mercedes and Toyota not to mention Cape Canaveral and Houston. Its no wonder a serious coup to take over America had a chance in the minds of neo-confederate sympathizers. But it was done by the gang who couldn't shoot straight – and worse than that, their 'Jefferson Davis' was a NY Yankee.

Just like the middle east Isis, the American Isis will be using Toyota and Chevy pick up trucks in their war for freedom. The Proud Boys will drive Mercedes like the Saudis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 03:16 PM

Off The Rails

Bonus episode: Inside the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency


This is a long read and is frankly the most astonishing thing I've read about as far as the people inside Trump's White House.

For example

The meeting had come entirely off the rails.

Byrne, backing up Flynn, told Trump the White House lawyers didn't care about him and were being obstructive. "Sir, we're both entrepreneurs, and we both built businesses," the former Overstock CEO told Trump. "We know that there are times you have to be creative and take different steps."

This was a remarkable level of personal familiarity, given it was the first time Byrne had met the president. All the stanchions and buffers between the White House and the outside world had crumbled.

Byrne kept attacking the senior White House staff in front of Trump. "They've already abandoned you," he told the president aggressively. Periodically during the meeting Flynn or Byrne challenged Trump's top staff — portraying them as disloyal: So do you think the president won or not?

At one point, with Flynn shouting, Byrne raised his hand to talk. He stood up and turned around to face Herschmann. "You're a quitter," he said. "You've been interfering with everything. You've been cutting us off."

"Do you even know who the fuck I am, you idiot?" Herschmann snapped back.

"Yeah, you're Patrick Cipollone," Byrne said.

"Wrong! Wrong, you idiot!"

The staff were now on their feet, standing behind one of the couches and facing the Powell crew at the Resolute Desk. Cipollone stood to Herschmann's left. Lyons, on his last day on the job, stood to Herschmann's right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 04:23 AM

Donuel, just to keep the record straight, the Orange One (now the Faded One) did indeed reach and pass a 45% approval rating. He hit 49% four or five times. However, he never reached 50%.

A segue here- a thought that's bothered me for some time: All revolutions are traitorous, unless the rebels win. Right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 09:07 PM

What is happening is they are still doing game show takeoffs which while a reliable way to mount a satire that is humorous and insightfully barbed, it can result in a sameness that has grown old over many many years.

Also, the recent incarnation of writers have a leader or core group that thinks that disgustingness or grossness is funny. I'm tired of it. Your mileage may vary.

The social bubble where everyone got arrested for reactionary activity was sort of fun, but ultimately not that barbed. Somewhat better was towards the end, the look at the 'new Georgia'. which has suddenly gone woke and blue-state.

Their musical guests have the characteristics of Wagner. Some inspired choices, mostly just uninspired or what's been up for the grammies or worse.

The high point is typically the news section.

Trmp gave them an almost endless supply of outrageousness that almost could be written straight into scripts. The closest they came to this was in the cold open when Kate MacKinnon interviewed "Marjorie Taylor Greene" who basically just recited her own tweets.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 01:02 AM

So we've gone from Tea Party to Patriot Party?

From TeePee to PeePee?

You just can't make this stuff up!

One observation take it as you will, SNL needs Donald Trmp back in the news. It wasn't too good without him last night.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:29 PM

The closest US party to a Patriot Party historicly, was ironically called the Know Nothing Party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 12:33 PM

P P.. Pity Party...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 12:02 PM

We need at least two viable functioning parties in our political system, and if the flakes and zealots would peel off of the GOP and join Trump, the GOP has to resolve to never let the crackpots back into the tent. They've invited various groups - racists, moral majority, tea partiers, to their own detriment. A conservative party is fine; a party of crackpots is not.

A one-party political system is no longer a Democracy and is to be avoided at all costs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 11:17 AM

Apologies to Steve. Although the Senators are jurists in an impeachmeent trial they are a different kind of jury.
If thats what you meant?

Alex Jones is back in the news for passing along $300,000 to organizers of the Capitol attack.

OPTIONAL RANT: I hope Trump will found and fund his new Patriot Party (PeePee). Sane Republicans need a country club of their own abd Rethugricans can splinter off and join Trump with glee and shower him in PeePee autocracy. In no time America will decide which party is truly a fringe party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:48 AM

Sadly passion trumps decorum


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 07:07 AM

heheheh when the air freshener stinks sell the bleach.

'Trunk's' lead 'impreachment' defense lawyer and another lawyer referred by Lyndsy Graham, 'Butch' Bower, have 'Q uit' !


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 30 Jan 21 - 06:42 PM

There is no end to the ability to play Trump, including playing his absence...
When you can't sell the steak, sell the sizzle.

When the steak stinks, sell the air freshener.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 09:27 PM

Donald Trump - 'The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

The KGB ‘played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality’, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

Yuri Shvets, posted to Washington by the Soviet Union in the 1980s, compares the former US president to “the Cambridge five”, the British spy ring that passed secrets to Moscow during the second world war and early cold war.

Now 67, Shvets is a key source for American Kompromat, a new book by journalist Craig Unger, whose previous works include House of Trump, House of Putin. The book also explores the former president’s relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.

“This is an example where people were recruited when they were just students and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump,” Shvets said by phone on Monday from his home in Virginia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 09:01 PM

Biden's approval rating at 45% is higher than Trump's ever was. But when it comes to Biden's Covid relief Bill the approval rating is 69% !
Things are looking up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 08:25 PM

My take away from my grumpy friend's posts is habitual teasing grumpiness.
Nor am I inclined to suspect they suffer from psychosis, but narcisisim
is a possibility for one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 08:06 PM

You do a lot better than I do at channelling outrage, robo. Respect, mate...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 07:53 PM

Surely you don't have to look into a wolf's mouth to determine its diet? Just check out its food bowl...

On my first trip up the Alaska Highway I noticed that a Canadian pony had a huge scar across its belly. "What happened to her?" "Wolves" "Had she wondered off?" " She was across the street!"

Don'l you at times seem near rational, but you have been and remain a source of Trumpiness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 07:53 PM

It was mentioned in our house. On the nights we crack a bottle open, we chink glasses in honour of (lemme see....) our kids, our beloved grandchild, my mum, anyone who's spoken out... So last night we raised a glass to all the Holocaust dead and all those who have fought for justice over the last seven decades since. Tears shed this end. No need to go large on Mudcat if you don't mind. The fact that we didn't reflects absolutely nothing. And do be advised that you have misused the word Holocaust in your post, thereby diminishing the word's true impact. What you think the US is suffering now is by no means equivalent. So please do not abuse that word. There's something wrong with you if you can't see how offensive that is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 07:35 PM

I too puruse the right wing media as I was taught as a child to "look into the wolf's mouth to see what it is eating". So I may be wrong about the allgience of others who might do the same.
A couple days ago it was Holocaust Rememberence day. It was not mentioned here unless Jack Campin said something. We are in a type of holocaust now but you can see where I am coming from when I say this community, while smart, has some short comings I have tried to mend be it facism, disgraphia, dyslexia, autism, stubborness, and my all time fav Grumpiness :^/


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