Lyr Req: Carlisle Hall

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlisle Hall
From: GUEST,Sue Allan
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 02:11 PM

Yes, I’m sure it would be The Sun Shines Fair on Carlisle Wall... which was written by Sir Walter Scott, based on a version of The Cruel Mother. It’s in his Lay of the Last Minstrel, sung by Albert Graeme. Dante Gabriel Rossetti even did a painting based on the song: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sheepdog_rex/8386579339/

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlisle Hall
From: GUEST,Harry
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 09:30 AM

Thank you, Reinhard.

You could well be correct about the typo in the Wiki article.

However, I have found a reference to a song called "Carlisle Hall" indexed in 'Ghosts in Popular Culture and Legend' edited by June Pulliam and Anthony J. Fonseca but, at £46.30, I'd prefer to find a more affordable way of chasing the song.

Of course, this one may not be the variant of The Cruel Mother listed in the Wiki article.

Subject: Lyr Req: Carlisle Wall
From: Reinhard
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 09:18 AM

See also the 2003 thread Lyr Req: The Sun Shines Fair on Carlisle Wall.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlisle Hall
From: Reinhard
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 08:56 AM

I believe it's a typo, it should be "Carlisle Wall".

Paul and Linda Adams sang "The Sun Shines Fair on Carlisle Wall" on their 1975 album "Far Over the Fell: Songs and Ballads of Cumbria".

Silly Wizard sang "Carlisle Wall" on their 1976 album "Silly Wizard":

She`s leaned her head against a thorn,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
And there she has her young babe born,
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

"Smile no sae sweet, my bonnie babe,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
An ye smile sae sweet ye'll smile me dead,"
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

She's dug a grave by the light o' the moon,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
And there she's buried her sweet babe in,
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

As she was going to the church,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
She saw a sweet babe in the porch,
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

"O bonnie babe, an ye were mine,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
I wiil clead you in silk and sabelline,"--
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

"O mother mine, when I was thine,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
To me ye were na half sae kind,
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

"But now I'm in the heavens hie,
The sun shines fair on Carlisle wa';
And ye have the pains of hell to dree"--
And the lyon shall be lord of a'.

(Silly Wizard lyrics copied from a lyrics site, not checked)

Subject: Lyr Req: Carlisle Hall
From: GUEST,Harry
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 07:37 AM

The Wikipedia entry for The Cruel Mother lists several variants, one of which is "Carlisle Hall".

I can't find anything on this ballad/song other than references back to The Cruel Mother.

Does anyone have the lyrics and the tune?

All the best
Harry