BS: 2021 vaccination thread

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM

That's very kind, Charlie. Thank you. Hope it's not too grim up north!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 06:05 PM

Whatever, I hope you are better soon, Steve.
Sending good thoughts from Dunfermline
Charlie

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:48 PM

I have a feeling that you're on the wrong wavelength, Donuel. My immune system is in good nick, thanks. Anyone who gets severe cellulitis needs a bit of a boost in order to avoid sepsis (which nearly carried me off last May). It's bacterial, by the way. I doubt whether anyone's ever counted the "strains".

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, Bonzo. Don't worry, as long as I remain sentient and retain at least one typing finger, I'll be up 'n' at yer in no time!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:22 PM

I don't know about the cheerful part but your immune system has faced an extraordinary number of infections, perhaps from your penchant for travel. If you do get infected the good news is that there is a surplus of monoclonal antibody treatments for people in a risk group.

There are over 4,000 varients but a strain is a predominate highly successful varient that exceeds the others in infection, spread and severity.

I am still too young for the current vaccine jab over here.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:08 PM

That's terrible Steve, hope you get back to form soon.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:51 PM

Much appreciated, Nigel. I always try to stay cheerful...

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:22 PM

Steve:
Hope it passes off soon.
Cheers!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:17 PM

Call me Mr Unlucky, Allan. I had a high fever on Saturday night and spent all day yesterday in bed, aching all over, sweating like a bull, heart going like the clappers and with the mother and father of a headache. Mrs Steve and I slept in separate beds for the first time in this house in 34 years (because I was stinking). Mrs Steve suspected coronavirus so she promptly ordered me a test kit. The upshot of that ordering is we both have to self-isolate. I thought I had flu, even though I've had the jab. Wrong again. I woke up this morning with a severe case of cellulitis, my second in a year. The fever's gone but I'm as weak as a kitten. Hoping the the antibiotics are beginning to kick in... I can hardly walk, as the infection started in my foot. A right pickle...

And I STILL haven't had me first jab! If (when) the test comes back negative (Wednesday, I hope) at least we'll be released from prison. Last year I ended up in A&E. Better luck this time!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 12:00 PM

Initial results from the data in Scotland appears to show a massive decrease in hospitalisation among people who have had just one jab of either Pfizer (85% reduction in hospitalisation) or Astrazenca (90% reduction in hospitalisation). Overall results not known yet as they still need to compare data for deaths in care homes - but never the less they are describing the effect of the vaccinations as spectacular!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:21 AM

Chap aged 32 here in Britain was mysteriously offered the vaccine way out of turn. When it was looked into they found that "the system" had recorded his height as 6.2cm instead of his real height, 6'2". That made his BMI 28000, so "the system" concluded that he was a super-urgent case. :-)

He admitted that he was a bit podgy but nothing special. When he told his mum about it, she looked at him sternly and said, Let that be a wake-up call." :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Helen
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 03:51 PM

Yesterday a few lucky people got the vaccination in Australia.

One guy jumped the queue. Scotty from Marketing, i.e. our PM. I guess he did it as a marketing strategy to convince all Aussies to get it.

So, we are at the beginning of the long path to herd immunity.

The list is prioritised. My appointment won't be until maybe late April to late May.

Bring it on!! :-D

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 01:09 PM

I am appalled at the degree of whinging going on here in Charlottesville by people trying, and failing, to jump the line.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 11:13 AM

Boris Johnson confirms that every UK adult will be offered a jab by the end of July -which means that within 17 months of the first recorded Covid-19 cases everybody could be jabbed. Incredible achievement! Thanks to all involved.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 07:24 PM

About time that the original poster to the thread
got vaccination dose number 2.

It's eight hours later.
Apart from a burning sensation in the shoulder
of the arm that got the vaccine
(started out as an itch, after the shot),
no complaints.
But there's still time for some of the other side effects.

Anyway, THAT'S done and I have got the
all-important vaccination card to prove it.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 04:16 PM

Keyboard stuck, Bonzo????????????????????????????????????????

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 02:25 PM

Allan Conn, oh, ok. I thought for a sec than AllanC was back.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 06:22 AM

Keboroxu, just think how much iller you risk getting if you don't have the jab, and you'll feel much better!
Incidentally, here's Dr Mike Ryan of the WHO talking about pandemics and climate change and our hopes for the survival of humanity. Frightening stuff. (The video's down the page a bit.)

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Feb 21 - 12:33 PM

My first is booked for next Wednesday at Cardiff City FC.
My second is also booked for 12 weeks later.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Feb 21 - 10:45 AM

Tomorrow is my second dose.
Everybody's reports where I live --
many of them got their second doses LAST weekend --
are anxiety-provoking.
I hate feeling ill ...
and of course I'll get the dose anyhow.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Feb 21 - 10:37 AM

??????????

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 19 Feb 21 - 10:25 AM

Yes, it is a great achievement, Bonzo: no complaints on that score. But like Allan C I also experienced misinformation and confusion on the road to getting vaccinated. Our First Minister had to backtrack somewhat on some of her inflated claims re how “everyone“ in certain groups had definitely been contacted when they patently hadn’t.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: fat B****rd
Date: 19 Feb 21 - 06:37 AM

Just back from my first "jag", as they say in Scotland, at the local football ground. Without fail everybody involved was friendly and helpful.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Feb 21 - 12:48 PM

I am very interested (and concerned) about the situation for BAME people in UK. It has been suggested that these ethnic groups are more vulnerable in their bodies' poor resistance to Covid 19, and infection/death rates are noticeably higher.
There have been several possible reasons mooted in the BMJ :-
- BAME households often have several generations of families, and the vectors are therefore increased.
- The culture of BAME people promotes suspicion of the motives behind mass vaccination, and a reluctance to take up offers of a vaccine.
- BAME people often live in deprived areas, and their general health is poorer than that of other ethnicities
- Due to much darker skin, BAME people in UK climate have low vitamin D levels, and there is a school of thought that vitamin D protects to some extent from Covid 19.
Now I find quite a bit of this objectionably racist to say the least. Lumping all BAME people together is absurd. UK has so many different types of environment and climate, so it isn't very scientific.
To consider Black, Asian and Middle-Eastern origin folk as one group is not workable. And there are poor, unhealthy people of all races (including whites) to be found in various places around the UK.
Now my husband is extremely black (W African) but has taken vitamin D supplements ever since his arrival here. He is not 'poor' or suspicious of the governments motives. He will gladly have the vaccine just as soon as it is offered to him. And I think it should be soon, as his risk is in cleaning a high school where pupils are still attending. He has to wear a mask, but cleans toilets of staff and pupils.
His union ('Unison') is starting to agitate for cleaning staff to cease working as the conditions are not safe.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 18 Feb 21 - 12:12 PM

I am not criticising the vaccine programme itself. That has been an achievement. I criticised thee fact that it was reported on the 15th by both the gvt and media that all the people clinically shielding had been vaccinated or had been offered a vaccination - when that was far from the truth! They would have been better with the truth. That we hit the figures we'd hoped for by the 15th; that we were starting on the next group which is 65 to 69 year olds, while the previous group is completed.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 21 - 07:25 AM

We're not all. I'm not.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 18 Feb 21 - 06:40 AM

Why are you all criticising the wonderful achievement of vaccinating so many people in such a short space of time???????????

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 07:50 PM

Entirely agree with you Allan about over-stating the case, as I experienced that myself, as I outlined in my post of 7th Feb: very frustrating being told that everyone in your age-group has either been vaccinated or received an appointment when I knew that to be untrue! Yes, I did get done eventually, but nearly 2 weeks after my husband who is same age and health criteria!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 04:58 PM

That's the guardian for you. To vaccinate 15 million plus is a tremendous achievement.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 11:43 AM

Piece in the Guardian about all this makes you shiver a bit.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 09:45 AM

Scottish gvt covid site showing today that 80% of people shielding have now had the vaccine. 20% not yet done is a huge difference from a few have slipped through the net.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: DMcG
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 12:56 PM

There are also edge cases that are a bit unclear. I am 66 so got called up as 65-and-over to my local surgery on 11th Feb. My wife turned 65 on 12th. We are not clear if she will be called up shortly or if she will be picked up much later.

(She can book direct with the NHS but the nearest centre is in a shopping centre a few miles away, so she would rather wait for the local GP if it is not too long.)

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 12:43 PM

Well yes but I am not including those who don't want to be - which as yet is a tiny amount in Scotland. They were saying everyone in the shielding group who wanted a vaccination had been vaccinated. Which isn't true. Yesterday the claim was that the only ones who have slipped through the net had moved house or had rearranged their appointments. Not true! Today it was changed to perhaps some letters are lost in the post. Again not the case! The health board is still actively working through the group and are expecting it to be finished within a week. Like I say the numbers vaccinated are incredibly impressive but by saying a group is finished it does put stress on folk who are still waiting.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Jos
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 12:25 PM

Rather than saying that everyone in a group has been vaccinated, they say that everyone in the group has been offered a vaccination (though it seems even that isn't completely true).

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 12:10 PM

My wife, who had been one of the shielding group, got her vaccine jag today. Two days after the whole group supposedly were vaccinated. She had to phone the local surgery for it though - and was there with another friend who was shielding too because he is a cancer patient. Likewise he had chased it. Went well though and easy - she was only in for minute. Later this afternoon we had the call from the vaccination line itself to book the appointment for something that was supposedly completed on Monday ;-) They have done great with the numbers being vaccinated but I do wish politicians and health boards and the media wouldn't say everyone in a certain group has now been vaccinated - when they patently haven't been. Much better to say right we have hit the target numbers by the date - and we are now just finishing off this group.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 08:24 PM

Now that FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Administration) is involved in the US things will go a lot faster. Especially since their funds hopefully aren't still siphoned off. Trump moved money around between agencies to find the cash to build that effing wall of his. Tore up a lot of beautiful desert for nothing.

Anyway, new high-capacity centers are going in soon, and Fauci predicts that by April the pharmacies and these centers will be vaccinating all comers.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Pamber
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 02:21 PM

Speak as you find! I had mine today at the grand old age of 68 with my wife. Hotel abot 6 miles from home painless in every sense of the word and brilliantly organised by the NHS staff. Now to sit back and listen to the politicos taken credit!!!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 12:43 PM

Sorry to hear that Jos. Hope you soon feel 'back to normal'.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 10:37 AM

The government have got a lot wrong during the pandemic but the vaccine roll out has been brilliant, in part due to the British public being confident about having the jab, although I did read - maybe here or maybe on twitter, various chortling by stupid disbelievers who think they know better.

Over 15 million have now received their first jab!!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Jos
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 08:03 AM

Drowsiness for one day? I'm just beginning to shake off the weariness after more than three weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 07:29 AM

It was indeed crazy Thompson. I know my sister well and she's a stubborn old thing! She'd have gritted her teeth and driven through the snow in a very determined fashion. But I don't know if any alternatives were possible. Like Steve, one is left wondering how on earth one is going to get there, especially in these very wintry conditions.
Also, if one has had an adverse reaction (at the worst, anaphylaxis) one is hardly in a fit state to drive home.
Apparently the arrangements for vaccination in Scotland are woeful according to sis.
I feel ever more blessed to have had such an easy experience, driven by my husband who is a superbly capable driver, such a short distance and with nobody else around in the doctor's surgery. And no ill-effects afterwards either (except drowsiness for one day)
What a lucky thing I am eh?

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 06:38 AM

Well I got my letter yesterday (not quite being 70 yet). I went on the NHS website to see what was on offer. The nearest centre offered to me is in Westward Ho! (the exclamation mark is part of its name! That one wasn't! Nor that one!), a very nice seaside town with echoes of Kipling and possessing a submerged fossil forest which you can walk out to at the lowest spring tides. But it's 26 miles and a 50-minute drive away. Other lovely Cornish and Devon locations were available. I could have gone to Truro and met my daughter (outdoors only) for the first time in months. 55 miles, 75 minutes. Or Plymouth, another 75-minute drive, where I could have taken my permitted exercise on the Hoe or in Mount Edgcumbe country park. Nice.

Or I can wait another day or two until my GP fixes me up no more than a 15-minute drive away...

Huh?

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 14 Feb 21 - 05:28 AM

Senofou, that's crazy. Was it possible to be dropped off if you had a designated driver at least, who could then go off and park till phoned to come and collect?

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 04:27 AM

I remember preparing accounts in the late 70s for a dairy farm in Aston Clinton just outside Aylesbury. The owner spent far too much on feed which after questioning, he admitted it was also for his racehorses!!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: BobL
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 04:01 AM

I pity too the poor organisers, who I'm sure were aware of the difficulties but had to work with what they were given.

Got my jab in Aylesbury yesterday - went like clockwork. Except that I had to wait 2 hours for my bus home. Fortunately the exit from the vaccination centre was convenient for my favourite supermarket. It wasn't desperately cold in this part of the world either, although the canal basin was frozen just enough to take the weight of some gulls, and the occasional duck.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Senoufou
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 03:33 PM

My sister got her vaccination today. She had to drive to Dundee (about 10 miles) in the bitter cold, many degrees below zero, and through deep snow. The designated parking was a third of a mile away from the huge vaccination centre. Everyone had to wait outside, and many old people were near collapse with hypothermia. She did her best to help them.
Once inside it was stuffy and badly organised. Forty vaccinators in booths, more waiting and too close to eachother. Afterwards she faced the third of a mile walk back to the car park. Bearing in mind she still suffers from long Covid, none of this was acceptable.
I just hope she doesn't get a relapse (or pneumonia!)

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 01:16 PM

Government health folks, probably the CDC.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 12:10 PM

All very straightforward yesterday: about 12 people in the usual surgery waiting room, with only 1 in every 3 chairs in use to maintain social distancing. And the roads were passable, tho husband nearly got stuck on the back road behind the surgery (car being full!)
Not much in the way of side effects, apart from being achy across the shoulders and neck and slightly sore arm. Astra Zeneca used: second dose not until May.

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 10:43 AM

Spectator data hub shows vaccination target of 14.6m will be hit *tomorrow*, two days early. At this rate, all vulnerable groups (1-9) will be vaccinated by 25 March. data.spectator.co.uk/city/vaccines

Thanks to the great job being done, despite continuing dithering by johnson/hancock!!!

Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 12 Feb 21 - 04:36 AM

Who's they, Stilly?