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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: DaveRo
Date: 04 Jul 22 - 02:37 PM

I know this from the McGarrigles:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bFeEjiWuGFg

"V'là M'sieur l' curé qu'arrive"
Kate and Anna sing "Voilà l'Curé qu'arrive" which is much better - a great piece of assonance.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 04 Jul 22 - 01:48 PM

This song has already been posted on Mudcat but had no translation posted. So here it is again with a literal one.
PERRINE ÉTAIT SERVANTE (French)

Perrine était servante, (x2)
Chez Monsieur le curé, digue don da dondaine
Chez Monsieur le curé, digue don da dondé !

Son amant vint la vouère (x2)
Un soir après l' dîner...

Perrine, ô ma Perrine (x2)
J' voudrais-ti bien t' biser

Oh ! grand nigaud, qu' t'es bête ! (x2)
Ça s' prend sans s' demander !...

V'là M'sieur l' curé qu'arrive (x2)
Où j' vas-ti bien t' cacher ? ...

Cache-té dedans la huche ! (x2)
I' saura pas t' trouver ! ...

Il y resta six s'maines (x2)
Elle l'avait oublié ! ...

Au bout de six semaines (x2)
Les rats l'avaient bouffé ! ...

Z' avaient rongé son crâne (x2)
Et puis tous ses doigts de pied ...

On fit creuser son crâne (x2)
Pour faire un bénitier...

On fit monter ses jambes (x2)
Pour faire un chandelier...

Voilà la triste histoire (x2)
D'un jeune homme à marier...

Qu'allait trop voir les filles (x2)
Le soir après l' dîner ! ...
PERRINE WAS A SERVANT MAID

Perrine was a servant maid, (x2)
At the priest's house, digue don da dondaine
At the priest's house, digue don da dondé!

Her lover came to see her (x2)
One evening after dinner...

Perrine, oh my Perrine (x2)
I would like to kiss you

Oh! big booby, how stupid you are! (x2)
It's taken without asking  !...

Here comes the priest (x2)
Where am I going to hide you? ...

Hide in the bread bin! (x2)
He won't be able to find you! ...

He stayed there six weeks (x2)
She had forgotten about him! ...

After six weeks (x2)
The rats had eaten him! ...

They'd gnawed his skull (x2)
And then all his toes...

His skull was hollowed out (x2)
To make a stoup...

His legs were put up (x2)
To make a candle holder...

That's the sad story (x2)
Of a marriageable young man...

Who was going to see the girls too much (x2)
On the evenings after dinner! ...
On 08/05/02, Joe posted the notes I'd sent him about this song but here they are again with some edition:

Here is the version I have on different books (and the way I learned it) with accents and all.
On the second verse, the spelling "vouère" reflects the old pronounciation of the "oi" spelling now pronounced [wa] though the aperture of the [a] varies from a wide open "a" in the South to a rather closed "é" in some parts of France and tends to "o" in other parts. So it's no real clue to trace it back but it's said to be from the 19th century.
"Cache-té" is "Cache-toi" (Hide /Hide yourself) for the same reason.
The "ti" (2nd, 5th verse) is a popular particle added after the verb in questions (J'y vas-ti, j'y vas-ti pas?) in some areas.
The conjugation "je vas" (5th verse) is also popular (standard "je vais"), so is saying "i" instead of "il" before consonant (i' saura pas t' trouver),
9th verse: the "z" (z'avaient rongé...) is what remains from the original liaison "ils_avaient"


Note also that "Monsieur le curé" is the formal way to address or to speak about a catholic priest. We use "Monsieur le..." to address or speak about a mayor, a president, a secretary/minister... etc. "Madame la ..." is used for a woman.
"bouffé" is slang for "eaten".
This song originated in Western France. Different variants have been collected from Poitou to High Britanny.
The song as we know it now has been popularized by Les Compagnons de la Chanson (1946) and is quite recent.

Recording by Anne Sylvestre
Recording by Les compagnons de la chanson
Live rendition by Les compagnons de la chanson at their beginnings.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 29 Jun 22 - 02:43 AM

On Monday Dawn Berg sang Cha Bhi Mi Buan (I Will Not Survive).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 01:04 AM

Last night, Steve sang...
PIVNIČKOVÁ

Stará Pivničková na jarmark sa strojá
jaj danom tanaj danom na jarmark sa strojá

Ja ty cero moja pozor dávaj doma
jaj danom tanaj danom pozor dávaj doma   

Ona pozor dala zle se zachovala
jaj danom tanaj danom zle se zachovala   

Jak práh překročila syna porodila
jaj danom tanaj danom syna orodila

Dúhý nůž si vzala krk mu podřezala
jaj danom tanaj danom krk mu podřezala 

Na milého lúce zakopala ruce
jaj danom tanaj danom zakopala ruce

Na milého roli zakopala nohy
jaj danom tanaj danom zakopala nohy

Na milého nivu zakopala hlavu
jaj danom tanaj danom zakopala hlavu

Do kosně běžela bielé groše brala
jaj danom tanaj danom bielé groše brala

Zahrajte ně hudci za mé bielé groše
jaj danom tanaj danom za mé bielé groše

Abych já užila panenskej rozkoše
jaj danom tanaj danom panenskej rozkoše

Bože múj přebože co sem udělala
jaj danom tanaj danom, co sem udělala
PIVNIČKOVÁ

Old Pivničková was getting dressed for the fair,
Jaj danom, danaj danom*, was getting dressed for the fair.

Oh my daughter, be careful and take care of our house,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, be careful and take care of our house.

She was careful, but did something bad,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, but did something bad.

As she stepped into the house, she gave birth to a son,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, she gave birth to a son.

She took a long knife and slit his throat,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, and slit his throat.

On her lover's meadow, she buried the hands,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, she buried the hands.

On her lover's field, she buried the feet,
jaj danom, danaj danom, she buried the feet.

On her lover's grassland, she buried the head,
Jaj danom, danaj danom, she buried the head.

She run to the wardrobe, took out the white coins
Jaj danom, danaj danom, took out the white coins.

Fiddlers, play me a song for my white coins.
Jaj danom, danaj danom, for my white coins.

That I can enjoy the virginal pleasures.
Jaj danom, danaj danom, the virginal pleasures.

God, oh my god, what have I done?
Jaj danom, danaj danom, what have I done?
*"jaj danom, danaj danom": "j" should be pronounced as "y" in "you" and "a" as "ah".

This translation by Michal Majek has been borrowed from LyricsTranslate

Lyrics and score, it's the 4th song.
Lyrics and chords in this pdf document, # 119 on page 74 of the pdf = page 72 of the document.
Longer and alternate versions on this pdf college document, page 69 -all in Czech.

Live recording by Čechomor
Live rendition by Čechomor


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 27 Jun 22 - 02:21 PM

L'INGLESINA

1 E l'era il fiöl d'un conte e voleva pià mujé
Lui voleva l'inglesina, perché figlia d'un cavalier (x2)

2 La sera l'impromete e la notte la sposò
E poi l'indoman matina verso Merica se ne andò

3 L'ha fai seicent chilometri senza mai parlar
E poi ne fece altri cento, poi cominciò a sospirar

4"Cosa sospiri oi mia, cosa sospiri tu?"
"Io sospiro la mia o mamma che non la rivedrò mai più"

5"Oh se sospiri questo hai tutte le ragion,
oh ma se tu sospiri d'altro, il pugnale l'è preparà."

6 "Che mi presta signor conte, che mi presta il suo pugnal?
Ho da tagliare un ramoscello per far d'ombra al mio caval!"

7 Appena lo ebbe in mano sul cuore lo piantò.
E poi volta indré il cavallo, verso casa se ne andò.

8 Appena arriva in piazza suo fratello comincia dir:
"Oh come mai sorella mia, come mai ritrovarti qui?"

9 "Due brutti assassini m'hanno ucciso mio marì.
Oh se vuoi che dica il vero, l'ho ucciso propi mi."
THE YOUNG ENGLISH GIRL

1 He was the son of a count and he wanted to take a wife
He wanted the young English girl, because she was the daughter of a knight (x2)

2 In the evening he got engaged to her and at night he married her
And then the next morning towards Merica he went.

3 She did six hundred miles without ever speaking
And then she did another hundred, then she began to sigh

4 "What do you regret oh sweetie, what do you regret?"
"I regret my mother for I'll never see her again"

5 "Oh if you regret this, you are very right,
Oh but if you regret someone else, the dagger is prepared."

6 "Will you lend me, sir, who will lend me your dagger?
I have to cut a twig to shade my horse!"

7 As soon as she had it in hand, in his heart she planted it.
And then she turned her horse back, toward home she went.

8 As soon as she reached the square her brother began saying:
"Oh how come, my sister, how come to find you here?"

9 "Two evil murderers killed my husband.
Oh if you want me to tell the truth, I killed him myself."
This song is an Italian version of Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight. In a comment at one of the links below, it reads that the informer probably forgot to sing the stanza (between 5 and 6) in which the count/earl tells her how many wives he killed before.
In some versions, he takes her to France, in this one he takes her to 'Merica (America). In many versions they ride for "miles" while here they ride for "chilometri" so the lyrics change happened after the French Revolution, the "km" length unit was created in 1790.

Lyrics and comments here at the bottom of the page.

Tagliani Family's version
Slightly different version by Vox Populi
Live rendition in Piedmontese.
Different sets of lyrics in an article in Terre Celtiche -Italian & English.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 11:48 AM

The song listed as "Jesus Jesus (sung in Irish Gaelic)" in the summary of songs sung in the 6 June 2022 sing about may have been Fáilte Romhat, a Íosa

The following week, Linn Phipps sang a Scottish Gaelic song, Crò Chinn t-Sàile, The Cattle Fold of Kintail. https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171400


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 16 Jun 22 - 03:33 PM

On Monday, Elsa sang Dodi Li in Hebrew, and Casey sang Je suis trop jeunette in French.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 13 Jun 22 - 01:01 PM

ROMANCE DE ISABEL (Spanish)

En Madrid hay un palacio que le llaman de oropel
y allí vive una señora que le llaman Isabel.

No la quieren dar sus padres a ningún Conde o Marqués
por más dinero que cuenten tres contadores al mes.

Una noche muy oscura, al juego del alfiler
la ha ganado un bello mozo, bello mozo aragonés.

Para casarse con ella, mató a sus hermanos tres,
mató a su padre y su madre, y luego con ella fue.

En el medio del camino, llora la niña Isabel.
¿Por qué lloras niña mía, por qué lloras, Isabel?

Si lloras por tus hermanos, por tus hermanitos tres,
a tu padre y a tu madre, también muertos les dejé.

-No lloro por mis hermanos, por mis hermanitos tres,
que lloro por el puñal de oro, que quiero que me lo des.

-Dime para que le quieres; dime cómo y para qué.
-Para partir una pera, que vengo muerta de sed.

Se lo ha dado del derecho, le ha cogido del revés,
Si tú mataras a mis padres, yo también te mataré.
ISABEL'S ROMANCE/BALLAD

In Madrid there is a palace that they call a tinsel/ostentatious palace
And there lives a lady called Isabel.

Her parents do not want to give her away to any count or marquis
No matter how much money three accountants count each month.

One very dark night, in a pin game,
A handsome young man won her, a handsome young man from Aragon.

To marry her, he killed her three brothers,
Killed her father and mother, and then went with her.

In the middle of the journey, young Isabel cries.
"Why are you crying, girl of mine; why are you crying, Isabel?

If you cry for your brothers, for your three little brothers,
Your father and your mother, them too I left dead."

"I'm not crying for my brothers, for my three little brothers,
I weep for the golden dagger, which I want you to give me."

"Tell me what you want it for, tell me how and what for."
"To split a pear, for I'm very thirsty (lit. I'm dying of thirst)."

He gave it to her forward, she took it backward,
"As you killed my parents, I'll kill you too."
Lyrics and recording by Joaquín Díaz.


Another version:
EN MADRID HAY UN PALACIO (Spanish)

En Madrid hay un palacio que le llaman de oropel,
y en él vive una señora, cuyo nombre es Isabel.

No la quieren dar sus padres ni a un Conde, ni a un Marqués,
ni por dinero que valga a una corona de Rey.

Estando un día jugando al juego del alfiler,
pasó por allí un caballo un guerrero montañés.

La ha cogido de la mano se la ha llevado con él,
y en la mitad del camino llora la triste Isabel.

¿Por qué lloras, niña mía? ¿Por qué lloras, Isabel?
Si lloras por tus hermanos, no los volverás a ver.

No lloro por nada de eso, ni por ningún interés.
Lloro por un puñal de oro. Puñal de oro, ¿para qué?

Ya te lo traería yo, si me dices que has de hacer.
He de cortar una fruta porque estoy muerta de sed.

Él se lo ha dado al derecho, y ella lo toma al revés
para clavarlo en su pecho, y así verse libre de él.
IN MADRID THERE IS A PALACE

In Madrid there is a palace that they call a tinsel one,
And in it lives a lady whose name is Isabel.

Her parents don't want to give her away, neither to a count, nor to a marquis,
Nor for any money worth, to a king's crown.

One day playing the pin game,
A horse passed by, a mountain warrior.

He has taken her by the hand, he has taken her away with him,
And in the middle of the trip/journey, sad Isabel cries.

"Why are you crying, girl of mine? Why are you crying, Isabel?
If you cry for your brothers, you won't see them again."

"I don't cry for any of that, nor for any interest.
I cry for a golden dagger." "Golden dagger, what for?

I would bring it to you if you tell me what you have to do"
"I have to cut a fruit because I'm dying of thirst."

He has given it to her forwards, and she takes it backwards
To stick it in his chest, and thus be free of him.
Note that in both translations, I hardly changed the verb tenses even if it sounds weird in English.
In some versions, it's not clear who was playing but in some other it's quite clear that she was gambled in some game (chess, "pin" or some gibberish name).

Recording by Joaquín Díaz along with the same recording and the lyrics on his website

Score on YouTube.

Cancionero de romances (Ballads songbook)

Rico Franco page on University of Washington Pan-Hispanic Ballad Project. Rico Franco/Ricofranco is the equivalent to Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight in languages that originated in the Iberic Peninsula.

In some versions, it's not clear who was playing but in some other it's quite clear that she was gambled in some game (chess, "pin" or some gibberish name).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 07 Jun 22 - 08:14 PM

CUMHA AN FHILE - Irish Gaelic
https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171333


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From: Monique
Date: 06 Jun 22 - 12:55 PM

RATTO AL BALLO / AN SÜ LA RIVA DE LU MAR (Piedmontese)

An sü la riva de lu mar a i'è na dòna che canta, la-ra
An sü la riva de lu mar a i'è na dòna che canta, la-ra
A i'è na dòna che canta.

El fiöl del re dis ai so scudiè "Chi l'è c'la dòna che canta? la-ra
El fiöl del re dis ai so scudiè "Chi l'è c’la dòna che canta? la-ra
Chi l'è c'la dòna che canta."

"Bela che canta fa pà per vüi, l'è dòna maridèia, la-ra
"Bela che canta fa pà per vüi, l'è dòna maridèia, la-ra
L'è dòna maridèia."

"O maridà o da maridé, la vöi ai me cumandi, la-ra
"O maridà o da maridé, la vöi ai me cumandi, la-ra
La vöi ai me cumandi."

El fiöl del re fa dé d'ün bal per dòne maridèie, la-ra
El fiöl del re fa dé d'ün bal per dòne maridèie, la-ra
Per done maridèie.

La bela dis a so marì "Laseme ‘ndé cun i'autre" la-ra
"Se vüi andè turnerai pà chi sei pì bela che i autre", la-ra
Chi sei pì bela che i autre.

Quan che la bela l’è sta' sül bal el fiöl del re s'la vistla, la-ra
L'à faie fé dui o tre gir, pöi l'à mnala in sua stansia, la-ra
L'à mnala in sua stansia

"Cos na diran le mie masnà ch'i vad pì nen a casa?", la-ra
"Pensé pa' pì a vostre masnà, pensé d'aveine d'autre, la-ra
Pensé d'aveine d'autre"

S' l'é la dui o tre dì, l'à mnala in riva al mare, la-ra
L’avia mac fait dui o tre pas as sent a ciamé "mare",
As sent a ciamé "mare".

L’à fait 'l segn d’la Santa Crus e ant'el mar s'è campéia, la-ra
"Sia maledét, maledét l'amùr di dòna maridèia, la-ra
Di dòna maridèia".
ABDUCTION AT THE BALL

On the seashore, there's a woman a-singing, la-ra
On the seashore, there's a woman a-singing, la-ra
There's a woman a-singing.

The king's son says to his squires, "Who's that woman who's singing? la-ra
The king's son says to his squires, "Who's that woman who's singing? la-ra
Who is that woman who's singing."

"Woman (lit. "beauty") a-singing is not for you, she's a married woman, la-ra
"Woman a-singing is not for you, she's a married woman, la-ra
She's a married woman."

"Either married or marriageable, I want her at my disposal, la-ra
"Either married or marriageable, I want her at my disposal, la-ra
I want her at my disposal."

The king's song has given a ball for married women. la-ra
The king's song has given a ball for married women, la-ra
For married women.

The beauty says to her husband, "Let me go with the others" la-ra
"If you go, you won't come back because you're more beautiful than the others", la-ra
You're more beautiful than the others.

When the beauty was at the ball, the king's son saw her, la-ra
He had her do two or three turnarounds, then he took her to his (bed)room, la-ra
He took her to his (bed)room.

"What will my children say as I don't go home anymore?", la-ra
"Think no more about your children, think about having some others, la-ra
Think about having some others"

After two or three days at his place, he took her on the seaside, la-ra
She hadn't made two or three steps that she heard call "mother"
She heard call "mother"

She made the sign of the holy cross and threw herself in the sea, la-ra
"Let it be cursed, cursed, the love of a married woman, la-ra
Of a married woman "
Recording from Il canzioniere del Piemonte
Recording by La Ciapa Rusa

Article in Italian with different versions on Terre Celtiche Blog

Several versions collected by Constantino Nigra in Canti popolari del Piemonte (1888)

Pdf displaying the different versions collected in the book at the link just above.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 30 May 22 - 02:20 PM

LA FILHA D’UN PAÏSAN (Occitan)

De bon matin se lèva
La filha d’un païsan.

Se lèva amai s’abilha
Ne pren sos abits blancs.

Son paire ie damanda :
- Filha, ont volètz anar ?

- Voli’nar a Lauzun, paire,
Veire lo rèi passar.

- Non i anguètz pas ma filha,
Que vos’n tornariatz pas !

- Si farai ben, mon paire,
Que non me veiràn pas..

Lo rèi n’èra en fenèstra,
La regardèt passar.

- Qual es aquela dama
Que passa per mon prat ?

- Sire, non sèi pas dama,
Sèi filha d’un païsan.

- Poiriatz l’èstre d’un prince,
Que vos’n tornariatz pas.

M' zo aviá plan dit mon paire,
Que me’n tornariái pas.
A FARMER'S DAUGHTER

A farmer's daughter
Gets up early

She gets up and she gets dressed
She puts her white clothes on (lit. "takes").

Her father asks her,
"Daughter, where do you mean to go?"

"I want to go to Lauzun, father,
To see the king pass by."

"Don't go, daughter,
As you wouldn't come back."

"I'll do so well, father,
That they won't see me."

The king was at the window,
He watched her pass by.

"Who's that lady
Who passes by my meadow?"

"Sire, I'm no lady,
I'm a farmer's daughter."

"You could be a prince's,
You wouldn't go back [home]"

"My father had indeed told me so,
That I wouldn't go back."
Recording by Rosina de Pèira e Martina
Live rendition by Las Salvajonas of a merging of 2 different versions.

You can find the scores of different tunes in Les vieilles chansons patoises du Périgord by Eugène Chaminade, chez Cassard Jeune, Périgueux, 1903 (2ème édition) as "Dé boun mati che lèbo". Note that the versions D and E are not about the king but some local lord who kidnaps her "to wash the dishes and clean the house".


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From: Monique
Date: 23 May 22 - 01:03 PM

DIGA, JOANETA (Occitan)
(Mont-Jòia version)

1. Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
Lalireta !
Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
-Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.
Lalireta !
Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.

2. Prendrai un òme que sache laurar.
Lalireta !
Prend ne un òme que sache laurar,
Fòire la vinha, meissonar lo blat.
Lalireta !
Fòire la vinha, meissonar lo blat.»

Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
Lalireta !
Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
-Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.
Lalireta !
Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.

3. Tendrem botiga, vendrem de tabat.
Lalireta !
Tendrem botiga, vendrem de tabat :
Cinc sòus lo roge, dotze lo muscat.
Lalireta !
Cinc sòus lo roge*, dotze lo muscat*.

Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
Lalireta !
Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
-Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.
Lalireta !
Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.

4. Per lo dimenge, n'aurem lo cabanon**,
Lalireta !
Per lo dimenge, n'aurem lo cabanon,
E per lo vèspre, la television,
Lalireta !
E per lo vèspre la television

Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
Lalireta !
Diga, Joaneta, te vòs ti logar ?
-Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.
Lalireta !
Nani, ma maire, me vòle maridar.
TELL, JANET


1. Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
Larireta!
Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
No, mother, I want to get married,
Larireta!
No, mother, I want to get married.

2. I'll take a man who knows how to plow
Larireta!
I'll take a man who knows how to plow,
To hoe the vineyard, to reap the wheat,
Larireta!
To hoe the vineyard, to reap the wheat.

Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
Larireta!
Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
No, mother, I want to get married,
Larireta!
No, mother, I want to get married.

3. We'll run a store, we'll sell tobacco,
Larireta!
We'll run a store, we'll sell tobacco,
Five cent the red one, twelve the muscat
Larireta!
Five cents the red one, twelve the muscat

Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
Larireta!
Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
No, mother, I want to get married,
Larireta!
No, mother, I want to get married.

4. For the Sunday, we'll have the little cabin,
Larireta!
For the Sunday, we'll have the little cabin
And for the evening, the television
Larirera!
And for the evening, the television.

Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
Larireta!
Tell, Janet, do you want to be hired?
No, mother, I want to get married,
Larireta!
No, mother, I want to get married.
Note that the spelling of the girl can be "Joaneta", "Jeaneta", "Janeta", "Janeto"…
*"roge", "muscat": old names of certain snuffs unless she also intended to sell wine
** "cabin": the last verse was penned by Mont-Jòia themselves, so from Provence where a "cabanon" was/is a "little cabin" (lit.) on the coast or in the countryside where people went/go on Sunday to spend some time relaxing with family and/or friends.

Alternate/additional verses
2. Amb un violonaire que me farà dançar…
Vòli prendre un òme que sache trabalhar…

3. Fòire la vinha e dalhar lo prat...
Farem botica e vendrem de tabat...

4. Cinq sòus lo roge, quinze lo muscat...
Riques e paures, totis aquí vendràn…

5. Farem un dròlle per fin de cada an...
Quand n'aurem dotze, per nos trabalharàn...
2. With a fiddler who'll make me dance…
I want to take a man who knows how to work…

3. Hoe the vineyard and scythe the meadow…
We'll run a store and we'll sell tobacco…

4. Five cents the red one, fifteen the muscat
Rich and poor, all will come here…

5. We'll make a child every end of year…
When we have twelve, they'll work for us…
Source: Anthologie de la chanson occitane, Cécile Marie, G.P Maisonneuve et Larose, 1975.

You'll find it with a score on this page of "Chants populaires de la Provence" tome 1, Damase Arbaud, 1802, where he says that the song was sung by young Savoy boys when making their groundhog dance. -Note that the spelling on this book is based on French spelling while the one I gave is in normalized spelling.

For those who know French:
Wikitrad" page of "Diga Janeta".
A pdf with a score, some background and an alternate verse 2 that goes "Un violonaire te farem donar… De violonaire, ieu ne' vòli pas" (We'll have you given a fiddler… A fiddler, I don't want him)
More information about the song and its variants on Thibault Plantevin's valuable website Zic Trad.

Recording by Mont-Jòia
Recording by La Ferigouleto
Recording by Mezzaluna Tarbes
Recording by Lhi Balòs
Recording by Hombeline


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GerryM
Date: 23 May 22 - 03:31 AM

Joan, my apologies. I have edited the faulty entry in the song list.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GUEST,Guest Joan F
Date: 22 May 22 - 03:59 AM

I sang it in English, as I *can't* sing in Irish. Trust me on that one.

I did do the chorus in what my source for the song, Ciara Thompson at her lecture at the Traditional Song Forum, said were "vocables", i.e. nonsense syllables used in Irish lullabies.

Turns out I was mispronouncing one & its not just a vocable, said Felipa, but a real Irish word, seoithin (sp?), meaning "sough of the wind".

I wrote to Ciara T. about this & she says that its thought that the vocables in Irish lullabies are what remain of ancient charms/spells, so they can have both retained real-word meanings & nonsense-for-lullaby "meanings".

Makes sense to me!

I still don't pretend to get Irish pronunciations right.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 18 May 22 - 08:04 PM

This week Joan Frankel sang a song in Irish, A Bhean Úd Thios air Bhruach an tSrutháin. I have created a discussion thread for the song (Not to be confused with An Bhean Úd Thall) https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171283. One of the links in the first message is not clickable, but if that link doesn't get repaired you can copy and paste it or use the clickable link to https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/music/petrie_and_music_of_clare2.htm towards the end of the second message.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 17 May 22 - 06:55 PM

Yesterday, Casey sang...
LE MARIAGE ANGLAIS (French)

C'était la fille d'un roi français
Que l'on marie à un Anglais
Oh ! Mes chers frères, empêchez de m'emmener
J'aimerais mieux soldat français que roi anglais

Et quand ce vint pour l'épouser
Dedans Paris, fallut passer
Il n'y a dame de Paris qui ne pleurait
De voir partir la fille du roi à un Anglais

Et quand ce vint pour embarquer
Les yeux lui a voulu bander
Bande les tiens, laisse les miens, maudit Anglais !
Car j'ai la mer à traverser, je la verrai

Et quand ce vint pour débarquer
Tambours, violons de tous côtés
Retirez-vous, tambouriniers et violoniers !
Car j'aime mieux le son du hautbois du roi français

Et quand ce vint pour le souper
Du pain lui a voulu couper
Coupe le tien, laisse le mien, maudit Anglais !
Car j'ai des gens de mon pays pour me nourrir

Et quand ce vint pour le coucher
L'Anglais voulut la déchausser
Déchausse-toi et laisse-moi, maudit Anglais !
Car j'ai des gens de mon pays pour me servir

Et quand ce vint vers la minuit
L'Anglais ne faisait que pleurer
Retourne-toi, embrasse-moi, mon cher Anglais !
Puisque nos pères nous ont mariés, il faut s'aimer.
THE ENGLISH WEDDING

She was the daughter of a French king
Who was married off to an Englishman;
Oh! My dear brothers, stop my being taken away
I would rather a French soldier than an English king

And when time came to marry her
Inside Paris they had to pass
There was no lady in Paris who did not cry
To see the king's daughter go to an Englishman

And when time came to board
He wanted to blindfold her eyes
Blindfold yours, leave mine, damn Englishman!
For I have the sea to cross, I will see it

And when time came to land
Drums, fiddles everywhere.
Withdraw, drummers and fiddlers!
For I prefer the sound of the oboe of the French king

And when time came for supper
He wanted to cut bread for her
Cut yours, leave mine, damn Englishman!
For I have people from my country to feed me

And when time came to go to bed
The Englishman wanted to take her shoes off
Take off your shoes and leave me, damn Englishman!
For I have people from my country to serve me

And when time came around midnight
The Englishman did nothing but cry.
Turn around, embrace* me, my dear Englishman!
Since our fathers married us off, we must love each other.
*Note: at that time "embrasser" meant what it literally says, i.e. "embrace". It passed to mean "to kiss" in the late 1700's early 1800 (according to the Académie Française then dictionaries) as the verb "baiser" originally meaning "to kiss" had changed its meaning to "to fuck".

Recording by Malicorne
Live rendition by Malicorne (song begins around 1:30)
On Gabriel Yacoub's website you'll find this piece of information in French:(translated by Google -that late at night, I don't translate much by myself)
This song is of Norman origin but the date of its composition is uncertain. It "celebrated" either the marriage of Henriette de France, daughter of Henry IV, with Charles 1st of England, or according to Amélie Bosquet (1815- 1904), Norman folklorist, that of Catherine de Valois, daughter of Charles VI, with Henry V, King of England
The first verse is a melody of Quebec origin. The song is followed by "Domino Fidelium" Gregorian motet from the school of Notre-Dame.

Here is what Amélie Bosquet says in her book
La Normandie, romanesque et merveilleuse ; traditions, légendes et superstitions populaires de cette province (1845) -in French, translated by Google translate.
"The romance we are about to quote is still sung today in the vicinity of Saint-Valéry-en-Gaux. Without being able to indicate precisely the origin of this popular song and the time of its primitive composition, we believe that we are not forming a conjecture devoid of probability, by saying that it seems to us to have been composed on the occasion of the marriage of the princess Catherine of France, daughter of Charles VI, with Henry V, King of England. "

And here are the lyrics she collected.
Le Roi a une fille à marier,
A un Anglois veut la donner,
Elle ne veut mais :
- Jamais mari n'épouserai s'il n'est François.-

La belle ne voulant céder,
Sa sœur s'en vint la conjurer.
- Acceptez, ma sœur, acceptez à cette fois,
C'est pour paix à France donner avec l'Anglois.-

Et, quand ce vint pour s'embarquer,
Les yeux on lui voulut bander :
- Eh ! Ôte-toi, retire-toi, franc traître Anglois
Car je veux voir jusqu'à la fin le sol françois.-

Et, quand ce vint pour arriver,
Le châtel étoit pavoisé,
- Eh ! Ôte-toi, retire-toi, franc traître Anglois,
Ce n'est pas là le drapeau blanc du roi françois.-

Et, quand ce vint pour le souper,
Pas ne voulut boire ou manger  :
- Éloigne-toi, retire-toi, franc traître Anglois,
Ce n'est pas là le pain, le vin du roy françois-

Et, quand ce vint pour le coucher,
L'Anglois la voulut déchausser :
- Éloigne-toi, retire-toi, franc traître anglois,
Jamais homme n'y touchera, s'il n'est François. -

Et, quand ce vint sur la minuit,
Elle fit entendre grand bruit.
En s'écriant avec douleur : -O Roi des rois
Ne me laissez entre les bras de cet Anglois. -

Quatre heures sonnant à la tour,
La belle finissoit ses jours,
La belle finissoit ses jours d'un cœur joyeux.
Et les Anglois y pleuraient tous d'un cœur piteux !
The King has a daughter to marry off,
To an Englishman he wants to give her,
She doesn't want to:
- No husband will I ever marry if he's not a Frenchman.-

[As] The beauty didn't want to give in,
Her sister came to beseech her.
- Accept, my sister, accept this time,
It's to give France peace with the English.-

And, when time came to embark,
Her eyes they wanted to blindfold:
- Hey! Get out, withdraw, utter English traitor
For I want to see French land until the end.-

And, when time came to arrive,
The castle was decked out,
- Hey! Get out, withdraw, utter English traitor,
This is not the white flag the French king.-

And, when time came for supper,
She didn't want to drink or eat:
- Go away, withdraw, utter English traitor,
This is not the bread, the wine of the French king.-

And, when time came for bed,
The Englishman wanted to take her shoes off:
- Go away, withdraw, utter English traitor,
No man will ever touch it, if he is no Frenchman. -

And, when time came about midnight,
She made a loud noise.
Crying out in pain: -O King of kings
Do not leave me in the arms of this Englishman. -

Four o'clock strikes at the tower,
The beauty was ending her days,
The beauty ended her days with a happy heart.
And the English all wept there with pitiful hearts!
LE MARIAGE ANGLAIS - singing of Malicorne
Here is the singable translation penned by Casey

Once was a daughter of a king of France
Promised in her youth to an English man
Dearest brothers, do not let them give my hand
Better I should marry a soldier lad of my own land

When came the hour they two were wed
She through the streets was royally led
Not a Parisian lady but wept most bitterly
To see the princess betrothèd to an English King

When came the hour to put to sea
The Englishman sought to bind her ee
Bind your own, let mine alone, foul Englishman
I will see the water divide me from my native land.

When came the hour they come to land
Fiddlers and drums on every hand
Get you from me, English players, cease your dance
I prefer the *hautboys of the King of France

When came the hour their meal to take
The Englishman sought her bread to break
Break your own, let mine alone, foul Englishman
I will take my bread from a serving maid of my own land

When they retired unto their room
The Englishman knelt to unlace her shoon
Unlace your own, leave mine alone, foul Englishman
I have a tiring maid of my own land

And as the midnight hour drew near
The Englishman sighed and shed many a tear
Turn again, and take my hand dear Englishman,
Since we are wed, we must love one another if we can.

*an instrument like an oboe


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 16 May 22 - 02:11 PM

LOS DOS FILHETS DEL REI (Occitan)

A la guèrra qui i va,
Qui i va non tòrna gaire.
Òc, los dos filhets del rei
A la guèrra son anadis.

Joanet jamai n'es tornat
E Joan-Francesc pas encara,
Sa maire lo vic venir
Per un prat que verdavaja.

Qué ne pòrtas, mieu filhòt ?
Qué pòrtas de las batalhas ?
Entre jo e mon caval
Ne portam vint-e-nòu plagas.

Mon caval pòrta las nòu,
Jo paubret totas las autras.
Ma maire fètz-me lo lèit,
No i demorarai pas gaire.

Serai mòrt a mièja nuèit,
Mon caval a punta d’alba,
M'enterraretz al sagrat,
Mon caval a la passada.

M'enramelaretz de flors,
Mon caval de totas armas,
Passaràn los passejants,
Diràn : quina bèla tomba !

La tomba del filh del rei
Qu’a ganhat fòrça batalhas,
La tomba del filh del rei
Que n’es mòrt a las batalhas.

Las campanas de Madrid
Sonaràn a punta d'alba,
Sonaràn per mon baron
Qu’a ganhat fòrça batalhas,
Sonaràn per mon baron
Que n'es mòrt a las batalhas.
THE TWO YOUNG SONS OF THE KING

To war, whoever goes,
Whoever goes, seldom comes back.
Yes, the two young sons of the king
Have gone to war.

Johnny never returned
And John-Francis [has] not [returned] yet,
His mother saw him come
Across a verdant meadow.

"What do you bring, my little son?
What do you bring from the battles?"
"Between I and my horse,
We bring twenty-nine wounds.

My horse brings nine [of them],
I, poor little me, all the others.
Mother, make my bed,
I won't stay there long.

I'll be dead at midnight,
My horse at daybreak,
You'll bury me in holy ground,
My horse in the pathway.

You'll adorn me with flowers,
My horse with all [my] arms.
The strollers will pass by,
They'll say, 'What a beautiful grave!

The grave of the king's son
Who won many battles,
The grave of the king's son
Who died at war'.' (lit. at the battles)

Madrid bells
Will ring at daybreak,
They'll ring for my baron
Who won many battles,
They'll ring for my baron
Who died at war. (lit. at the battles)
It's the first song rehearsed in this workshop.
Recording by Renat Jurié
Recording by Ramon Manent


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 15 May 22 - 06:52 AM

On Monday, Anne Coleman sang "Sios Dhan An Abhainn", a Scottish Gaelic version of "Down to the River to Pray". You'll find the lyrics and a translation posted by RunrigFan in this post along with English versions and background.
You'll also find the lyrics below this beautiful recording by Mary Ann Kennedy & Na Seoid.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 15 May 22 - 06:23 AM

On Monday Joe Fineman sang "Auprès de ma blonde".
The lyrics are already in Mudcat DT
There's also a thread about the song but no translation. So here is the version I learned as a child and a translation.
Note that the 2nd line of each verse becomes the 1st line of the next one making the song 11 verses long instead of 6.

AUPRÈS DE MA BLONDE (French)

1. Au jardin de mon père les lilas sont fleuris (x2)
Tous les oiseaux du monde viennent y faire leurs nids

Chorus
Auprès de ma blonde, qu'il fait bon, fait bon, fait bon,
Auprès de ma blonde, qu'il fait bon dormir.

2. La caille, la tourterelle, et la jolie perdrix (x2)
Et la jolie colombe qui chante jour et nuit.

3. Qui chante pour les filles qui n'ont pas de mari (x2)
Pour moi, ne chante guère car j'en ai un joli.
11
4. Dites-nous donc, la belle, où donc est vot' mari ? (x2)
Il est dans la Hollande, les Hollandais l’ont pris.

5.Que donn'riez-vous, la belle, pour avoir vot' mari ? (x2)
Je donnerais Versailles, Paris et Saint-Denis.

6. Les tours de Notre-Dame et les cloches de mon pays (x2)
Et ma jolie colombe qui chante jour et nuit.
NEXT TO MY GIRLFRIEND

1. In my father's garden the lilacs are in bloom (x2)
All the birds in the world come to build their nests here.

Chorus
Next to my girlfriend, how good, how good, how good,
Next to my girlfriend, how good it is to sleep.

2. The quail, the dove, and the pretty partridge (x2)
And the pretty dove that sings day and night.

3. That sings for girls who have no husband (x2)
It hardly sings for me as I have a pretty one.

4. Tell us, beauty, where is your husband? (x2)
He is in Holland, the Dutch took him.

5.What would you give, beauty, to have your husband? (x2)
I would give Versailles, Paris and Saint-Denis.

6. The towers of Notre-Dame and the bells of my home area (x2)
And my pretty dove that sings day and night.
From English Wiki "Auprès de ma blonde" (French for "Next to My Girlfriend") or "Le Prisonnier de Hollande" ("The Prisoner of Holland") is a popular song dating to the 17th century... It appeared during or soon after the Franco-Dutch War (1672–78), during the reign of Louis XIV, when French sailors and soldiers were commonly imprisoned in the Netherlands.
The song's quick pace and lively melody made it well-suited to military marches, and it is still commonly played at parades. For the same reasons, it gained widespread popularity as a drinking song and nursery rhyme.
According to French Wiki, it's often attributed to André Joubert du Collet, lieutenant of the royal navy during the reign of Louis XIV: taken prisoner by the Dutch, he would have composed it after his release in 1741.

YouTube "Auprès de ma blonde" page where you'll find the song sung and/or played.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 15 May 22 - 03:25 AM

On Monday, Carol Sue Engleman recited a fragment of the prologue to Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, in Middle English. You can't say it's not English but it isn't nowadays English either. So here's a link to the original text and translation into Modern English of the Prologue on Harvard's Geoffrey Chaucer Website. You'll find all the Canterbury tales in their original Middle English with a Modern English translation.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 13 May 22 - 02:44 AM

On Monday, Pattie Clink sang...
AL DI LÀ (Italian)
© Mogol (1936- ) Carlo Donida (1920-1998)

Non credevo possibile
Si potessero dire queste parole:
Al di là del bene più prezioso, ci sei tu.
Al di là del sogno più ambizioso, ci sei tu.
Al di là delle cose più belle.
Al di là delle stelle, ci sei tu.
Al di là, ci sei tu per me, per me, soltanto per me.
Al di là del mare più profondo, ci sei tu.
Al di là dei limiti del mondo, ci sei tu.
Al di là della volta infinita, al di là della vita.
Ci sei tu, al di là, ci sei tu per me.
BEYOND


I didn't think it was possible
These words could be said:
Beyond the most precious good/asset, there is you.
Beyond the most ambitious dream, there is you.
Beyond the most beautiful things.
Beyond the stars, there is you.
Beyond, there is you for me, for me, only for me.
Beyond the deepest sea, there is you.
Beyond the limits of the world, there is you.
Beyond the infinite vault, beyond life.
There is you, beyond, there is you for me.
Live rendition by Emilio Pericoli
Live rendition by Connie Francis


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 12 May 22 - 02:36 PM

Thank you Leeneia for posting it!
The German dictionary and Wiki read that a weeping willow is called "Trauerweide" whether it's called "Echte Trauerweide" or "Babylonische Trauerweide".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: leeneia
Date: 12 May 22 - 01:53 PM

On May 9th I sang "There is a Tavern in the Town", first in English then in German. Here are the German words from the site ingeb.org

Es gibt ein Wirtshaus in der Stadt, In der Stadt,
Wo oft mein Schatz ein Gläschen hat, Gläschen hat,
Er lacht und scherzt, Mit Freunden freut er sich,
Und nie (ach nie!) denkt er an mich.
Lebewohl, ich muss dich lassen.
Darfst den Abschied doch nicht hassen;
Es ist jetzt Zeit, wir müssen sagen ""Lebewohl!
Leb wohl, leb wohl, mein Schatz,
Leb wohl, ja, leb wohl.
Ich kann bei dir nicht bleiben wohl, bleiben wohl,
Ich häng mein Herz An den Trauerweidenbaum,
Dein Leben sei ein schöner Traum!


I just learned that "Weidenbaum" is willow tree, so "Trauerweidenbaum" is "sad willow tree." I wonder if that is the usual name for the weeping willow or if it was made up for this song.

I've always thought she hung her hat, not her heart on the weeping willow tree. Surely the point of the song is that her roistering lover doesn't have her heart anymore.

Thanks for your efforts, Monique.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 11 May 22 - 04:23 PM

I sang Siúl a Ghrá in Irish Gaelic last Monday
You'll find two sets of lyrics on Mudcat at
https://mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=3316131 and
https://mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=1911958


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 May 22 - 01:43 PM

On 9 May 2022, I sang all of the English verses of Mack the Knife, Bertolt Brecht's "Der Moritat von Mackie Messer." The English version, by Marc Blitzstein, was not a direct translation but it was pretty close.

There's quite a difference in melody between the cabaret style of the German Version and the swingin' style of the Bobby Darin version.

Dave Van Ronk did a version in English that's closer to the original German.

Bobby Darin is somehow able to make mass murder sound cool. The early German recordings make mass murder sound (deliciously) wicked - only Brecht could do that.

It's fascinating to select a few recordings from the results of a YouTube Search.

Now I want to work out "Pirate Jenny," another Brecht classic.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GerryM
Date: 10 May 22 - 07:36 PM

Some recordings of A La Una Yo Naci:

Romances Sefardies, Françoise Atlan, in the Musique du Monde series, on Buda Records, 92529-2.

La Rondinella, Songs of the Sephardim, Traditional Music of the Spanish Jews, Dorian Discovery DIS-80105.

Dalia Dior, Ladino Gloriozo, The Musical Glory of Early Spain, Volume 1, Curtain Call Productions CC0015.2.

Also, any number of YouTube videos.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Catamariner
Date: 09 May 22 - 04:17 PM

At the 9 May 2022 singaround, I (Heather P) sang "A la Una Yo Naci," circa 1492. It's from I.J. Levy’s invaluable collection, Chants Judeo Espagnols. There are a number of surviving variants that were collected from different countries. The version called “A la Una Yo Nací” is from Sarajevo, once known as “Chiko Yerushalayim,” according Ladino singer Flory Jagoda, who was born there in 1923.

Using Spanish notation for pronunciations, the lyrics are (each line sung twice):

A la una yo nací, a las dos m'engrandecí.
A las tres tomí amante, a las cuatro me cazí.
Alma, vida y corazón, Alma, vida y corazón.

Dime niña dónde vienes, que te quiero conocer.
Si tú no tienes amante, yo te haré defender.
Alma, vida y corazón, Alma, vida y corazón.

Yendome para la guerra, dos bezos al aire di.
El uno es para mi madre, y el otro para ti.
Alma, vida y corazón, Alma, vida y corazón.

A la una yo nací, a las dos m'engrandecí.
A las tres tomí amante, a las cuatro me cazí.
Alma, vida y corazón, Alma, vida y corazón.

Translation

At one I was born
At two I grew up
At three I took a lover
At four I married
Soul, life and heart…

Tell me young lass
where do you come from
For I wish to know you
And if you have no lover
I will defend you
Soul, life and heart…

Going off to war
I blew two kisses into the air
One was for my mother
And the other for you
Soul, life and heart…

At one I was born
At two I grew up
At three I took a lover
At four I married
Soul, life and heart…


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 02 May 22 - 08:04 PM

At the 2 May 2022 singaround, Linn Phipps sang "A RIBHINN ÓIG, ' BHEIL CUIMHNE AGAD, a sailor's love song in Scottish Gaelic.
see https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171237


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Felipa
Date: 02 May 22 - 05:33 PM

Tonight I sang a May day song in Irish, Thugamar Féin an Samhradh Linn
https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=53420

Monique told me that Vincent Hearns sang Druimeann Donn Dílis before I joined the singaround. That's another Irish Gaelic song which is already posted on Mudcat, under a slightly different title, Drimín Donn Dilis https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=14427


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 02 May 22 - 02:23 PM

ROMANCE DEL CONDE OLINOS (Spanish)
(Anonymous – supposed to be from the 15th century)

Madrugaba el Conde Olinos mañanita de San Juan
a dar agua a su caballo, a las orillas del mar.

Mientras el caballo bebe, canta un hermoso cantar,
las aves que iban volando, se paraban a escuchar.

- Bebe, mi caballo, bebe. Dios te me libre de mal,
de los vientos de la tierra y de las furias del mar.

La reina lo estaba oyendo desde su palacio real.
- Mira, hija, como canta la sirena de la mar.

- No es la sirenita, madre, que esa tiene otro cantar,
es la voz del Conde Olinos, que me canta a mí un cantar.

- Si es la voz del Conde Olinos, yo lo mandaré matar,
que para casar contigo, le falta la sangre real.

- No le mande matar, madre, no le mande usted matar,
que si mata al Conde Olinos, a mí la muerte me da.

Guardias mandaba la reina al Conde Olinos buscar,
que le maten a lanzadas y echen su cuerpo a la mar.

La infantina con gran pena, no dejaba de llorar;
él murió a la medianoche, y ella a los gallos cantar.

A ella como hija de reyes la entierran en el altar,
y a él como hijo de condes cuatro pasos más atrás.

De ella nació un rosal blanco, de él nació un espino albar;
crece el uno, crece el otro, los dos se van a juntar.

La reina llena de envidia, ambos los mandó cortar,
el galán que los cortaba, no dejaba de llorar.

De ella naciera una garza, de él un fuerte gavilán,
juntos vuelan por el cielo, juntos se van a posar*.

* Or "juntos vuelan par a par" (together they fly)
BALLAD OF COUNT OLINOS


Count Olinos rose early on Saint John's Day* morning
To water his horse by the sea side.

While the horse drank, he sang a beautiful song,
The birds that were flying by, stopped to listen.

"Drink, my horse, drink, may God spare you from evil,
From the winds of the earth and the furies of the sea".

The queen was listening [to it] from her royal palace,
"Look, daughter, how the mermaid of the sea sings".

"It's not the little mermaid, mother, for she sings a different song,
It's the voice of Count Olinos, who sings a song for me."

"If it's the voice of Count Olinos, I'll have him killed,
Because to marry you, he lacks royal blood".

"Don't have him killed, mother; don't have him killed,
For if you kill Count Olinos, you assassinate me."

The queen sent guards to fetch/bring Count Olinos,
To spear him dead and toss his body into the sea.

The princess, with great sorrow, could not stop crying,
He died at midnight, and she [did] at cockcraw.

She, as the daughter of kings, was buried in the altar,
And he, as the son of counts, four steps behind.

From her was born a white rose bush, from him a white hawthorn,
One grows, and so does the other, they're going to intertwin/get together.

The queen, full of envy, ordered to cut them down,
The courtier who cut them could not stop crying,

From her was born a heron, from him a strong hawk,
Together they fly through the sky, they sit together.
* Saint John's Day is on the 24th of June


The count in this ballad can be "El conde Olinos" or "El conde Niño" among some others.

Live rendition by a much younger Joaquín Díaz (now 75) for a Japanese TV channel. Here is what he tells before singing…

"El Romance del Conde Olinos es uno de los más populares entre los romances castellanos. Su primera versión escrita está en el cancionero manuscrito de Londres, y posteriormente existen muchas versiones escritas, por supuesto muchas versiones tradicionales cantadas y trasmitidas oralmente de padres a hijos. La versión que voy a cantar ahora está recogida en Mojados, y como casi todas las versiones, cuenta la historia de dos amantes, un conde y una princesa, a los que la madre de ella, la reina, persigue y no deja que se casen. Ordena matar al conde y la princesa muere de amor al día siguiente. Ellos cambian, digamos, sus estratos vitales, varían de seres humanos a ser animales primero, después vegetales y, después, finalmente, minerales. Y este paso de sus almas por diferentes estadios culmina con la venganza que toman de la reina que se va a curar a la ermita, a la fuente en que se han convertido ellos. Y ellos no quieren curar a la reina porque les trató mal durante su vida."

"The Romance of Count Olinos is one of the most popular among Castilian romances. Its first written version is in the London manuscript songbook [Add MS 29987 – British Library], and later there were many written versions, of course many traditional versions sung and transmitted orally from parents to children. The version that I am going to sing now was collected in Mojados, and like almost all the versions, it tells the story of two lovers, an earl and a princess, who are persecuted by her mother, the queen, who does not let them get married. She orders the count to be killed and the princess dies of love the next day. They change, let's say, their vital strata, they vary from human beings to being animals first, then vegetables, and then, finally, minerals. And this passage of their souls through different stages culminates in the revenge they take on the queen who goes to the hermitage to be cured, to the fountain they have become. And they don't want to cure the queen because she treated them badly during her lifetime."


The last part refers to several versions in which the two lovers become two bushes (as in Barbara Allen) but the queen have them cut or unrooted, so they become birds but the queen have them shot, then they become a fountain and a spring that cure many illnesses. The queen is losing sight in one eye and she goes to the fountain to be cured. She's denied to be cured or she's told her eye will be cured but she'll lose sight in the other, or she's told she'll lose sight in both eyes instead of one.
Let's note also that sometimes the evil parent is not the queen but the king. In some versions the queen is Moorish and the count is Christian but in some versions it's the other way round, their difference in religion being the reason why their love is denied.

A shorter version to a different tune from Joaquín Díaz website -a website that I'll always highly recommend!
A live recording by José Negrete
Live rendition by the "Flamenco medievalista" band Zalema (their FaceBook page -"Zalema" is "Peace" in Mozarabic language Cf. Hebrew Shalom and Arabic Salam)
Live rendition by the folk band Alalumbre Live rendition of a slightly different version by Paco Ibáñez

You'll find 432 versions of this song in Hispanic and Portuguese languages on this University of Washington Pan-Hispanic Ballad Project page.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 28 Apr 22 - 05:24 PM

Casey sang "Marions les roses". Here below are the original lyrics with my literal translation followed by Casey's own singable translation.
MARIONS LES ROSES (French)

Le mois d'avril s'en est allé
Le mois de mai s'est approché

(Refrain)
Et marions les roses
Les roses font un beau bouquet
Les roses font un beau bouquet
Quand elles sont jolies.

Avons passé dedans vos prés
Les avons trouvés bien fumés

(Refrain)

Avons passé dedans vos blés
Oh comme ils sont tous bien grainés

(Refrain)

Mettez la main au nid des œufs
Que chaque main en prenne deux

(Refrain)

Moi qui suis le porte-panier
Je prendrais bien le nid entier

(Refrain)

Si vous n' voulez rien nous donner
À la porte nous allons crier.
LET'S MARRY THE ROSES

The month of April has gone
The month of May has drawn near

(Chorus)
And let's marry the roses,
Roses make a beautiful bouquet,
Roses make a beautiful bouquet
When they're pretty.

We went through your fields
We found them well manured.

(Chorus)

We went through your wheat fields
Oh, how much/well grainy they are!

(Chorus)

Put your hand into the eggs nest,
Let every hand take two.

(Chorus)

I, who am the basket carrier,
Would gladly take the whole nest

(Chorus)

If you don't want to give us anything,
At your door we're going to shout.

Casey's singable translation

The month of April’s past away
And here’s the merry month of May
A-a-all among the roses
It’s we will make a fine bouquet
We wi-ill make a fine bouquet
With your sweet primroses

We all have seen your meadows gay
And they will bring a fine crop of hay
All among the roses…                
                
We all have seen your wheaten fields
And they will give a gen’rous yield
All among the roses…                        

Lift your hand into the nest
Choose the eggs that please the best
All among the roses…                        

I am but the basket-bearer
But I could eat the nest entire
All among the roses…                        

Give us a penny, maybe two
We’ll stand and sing until you do
All among the roses…

As I already wrote on the Any May Songs thread...The BNF catalogue has a sheet music for 4-voice choir by Guy Delamorinière (1907 - 1981). The song is said to be a "collection song" or whatever you call a "chanson de quête" in English = a song you sing whenever you go from door to door to collect money or anything else, here eggs. The song is said to be Provençal but the "Anthologie des chants populaires, 1" by Joseph Canteloube reads that the song is from the Albigeois and Lauragais areas of the Languedoc. The lyrics are a mix of Occitan and French -verses in Òc and chorus in French. The music is said to derive from Filii et filiœ. The Occitan chorus is about marrying girls which makes more sense than marrying roses.

Recording by Malicorne
Malicorne Live rendition (Hurdy gurdy festival in Anost, Summer 2013)
Recording by Les Fin'Amoureuses at 3:22.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 28 Apr 22 - 07:42 AM

On Monday, Elizabeth Block sang "L'adieu de la mariée à ses parents (above),
Linn Phipps sang "Tha mi duilich, cianail, duilich" in Scottish Gaelic,
Elsa sang Qué bonita bandera,
Casey sang Marions les roses.

Qué bonita bandera by Ramito - No free sheet music available.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 28 Apr 22 - 07:08 AM

On Monday, Elizabeth Block sang "L'adieu de la mariée à ses parents" AKA "Là-haut sur la montagne" (Y'a des petits oiseaux). The song can be found in Canada, Western and Southwestern France.
You'll find a different version of this song on the "The French 'Voice of the People' set" Mudcat thread.
L'ADIEU DE LA MARIÉE À SES PARENTS (French)

Là-haut sur la montagne
Y a des petits oiseaux
Y en a des grands et des petits
Qui crient dans leur langage
Les amoureux sont malheureux
De se mettre en ménage

Pour se mettre en ménage
II faut bien du courage
Et pour avoir femme et enfants
II faut embrasser l'ouvrage
Adieu plaisir adieu bon temps
Je suis en esclavage

Le jour du mariage
Quel habit mettrons-nous
Nous prendrons nos beaux habits blancs
La robe d'innocence
Le ruban rouge sur le côté
Le ruban de souffrance

Le soir du mariage
Dans quel lit coucherons-nous
Nous coucherons dans un lit blanc
Garni de roses blanches
Et ma mignonne à mes côtés
Nous dormirons ensemble

Au bout de six semaines
Chez son père, elle alla
Mon père vous m'avez mariée
Vous m'avez donné un homme
Il est toujours au cabaret
II fait mauvais ménage

Prends patience, ma fille
Ton mari changera
Embrasse-le, caresse-le
Donne-lui du courage
Tu trouveras le changement
Dans ton petit ménage
THE MARRIED GIRL'S FAREWELL TO HER PARENTS

Up there on this mountain
There are little birds.
There are large ones also small ones
That sing (lit. cry) in their language
Lovers are anxious
To get married

To get married,
You must be courageous.
To have a wife and children
You have to work.
Farewell pleasure, farewell good time,
I am in slavery.

On the wedding day,
Which clothes will we wear?
We'll take our fine white clothes,
The innocence gown,
The red ribbon on the side,
The ribbon of suffering.

On the wedding night (lit. evening)
In which bed will we lie?
We'll lie in a white bed
Embellished with white roses
And my sweetheart by my side
We'll sleep together

Six weeks later,
To her father's she went.
"Father, you married me off,
You gave me a man
Who is always at the pub/café,
We don't get along."

"Take courage, daughter,
Your husband will change,
Kiss him, fondle him,
Give him courage,
You'll find some change
In your little household."
You can hear the first verse of the song here (it cuts just before the end of the verse).
Score and midi here, both created from this page in "Chansons populaires des Pyrénées françaises: traditions, mœurs, usages" by Jean Poueigh, Association E.S.P.E.R. (Toulouse) (1989) -Score and lyrics
I couldn't find any video.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 25 Apr 22 - 02:29 PM

It first was a love song from the 15th century, sung in Castilian. It belongs to the traditional songs of Burgos and Cantabria.
A LOS ÁRBOLES ALTOS (Spanish)
(Traditional, 15th century)

En qué nos parecemos
Tú y yo a la nieve
Tú en lo blanca y galana
Yo en deshacerme.

A los árboles altos
Los lleva* el viento
Y a los enamorados
El pensamiento.

Corazón que no quiera
sufrir dolores,
pasa la vida entera
libre de amores.

Corazones partidos
yo no los quiero,
y si le doy el mío
lo doy entero.
THE TALL TREES


You and I are like the snow
In the fact that
You are white and good looking/well dressed
And I, because I melt.

The tall trees
The wind takes them
And to the lovers,
The thought/idea/dream [does so].

A heart that doesn't want
To suffer pains
Passes the whole life
Free of loves.

Partial/incomplete hearts,
I don't want them
And if I give mine to her
I give it whole.
*alternate word "mueve" (moves)


Sheet music

Recording by Guillermo García and Ruth Waka -Verses 1 & 2.

Recording by Quilapayún Verses 1 & 2.


Alternate version with the following pattern:

A los árboles altos les lleva el viento
Y a los enamorados el pensamiento,
Ay, vida mía, el pensamiento.

The tall trees, the wind takes them
And to the lovers, the thought/idea/dream [does so]
Ah, my love, the thought/idea/dream

Live rendition by Joaquín Díaz

Live rendition by the Coro Garoé (a choir from Madrid suburbs)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 24 Apr 22 - 04:11 PM

On Monday, Joan Frankel sang Adir Hu.
אַדִּיר הוּא

אַדִּיר הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)
בִּמְהֵרָה,בִּמְהֵרָה, בְּיָמֵינוּ בְּקָרוֹב.
אֵל בְּנֵה, אֵל בְּנֵה, בְּנֵה בֵּיתְךָ בְּקָרוֹב.

בָּחוּר הוּא, גָּדוֹל הוּא, דָּגוּל הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

הָדוּר הוּא, וָתִיק הוּא, זַכַּאי הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

חָסִיד הוּא, טָהוֹר הוּא, יָחִיד הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

כַּבִּיר הוּא, לָמוּד הוּא, מֶלֶךְ הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

נוֹרָא הוּא, סַגִּיב הוּא, עִזּוּז הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

פּוֹדֶה הוּא, צַדִיק הוּא, קָּדוֹשׁ הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)

רַחוּם הוּא, שַׁדַּי הוּא, תַּקִּיף הוּא יִבְנֶה בֵּיתוֹ בְּקָרוֹב.

(פִּזמוֹן חוֹזֵר)


GOD IS MIGHTY


He is mighty, He is mighty, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus:)
Speedily, speedily and in our days, soon.
God, rebuild! God, rebuild! Rebuild your house soon!



He is distinguished, He is great, He is exalted, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is glorious, He is faithful, He is faultless, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is righteous, He is pure, He is unique, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is powerful, He is wise, He is king, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is awesome, He is sublime, He is all-powerful, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is redeemer, He is all-righteous, He is holy, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)


He is compassionate, He is almighty, He is omnipotent, may He soon rebuild his house


(Chorus)
Transliteration

ADIR HU

Adir hu, adir hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)
Bimherah, bimherah, beyameinu bekarov.
El bneh, el bneh, bneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Bachur hu, gadol hu, dagul hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Hadur hu, vatik hu, zakai hu yivneh beito bekarov

(Chorus)

Chassid hu, tahor hu, yachid hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Kabir hu, lamud hu, melech hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Norah hu, sagiv hu, izuz hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Podeh hu, tzaddik hu, kadosh hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)

Rachum hu, shadai hu, takif hu yivneh beito bekarov.

(Chorus)


The lyrics have been borrowed from Zemirotdatabase.org
The English translation has been borrowed from Wikipedia
Sheet music on Beth's Notes
Free sheet music with notes only (Pdf)
Web page with many videos

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 23 Apr 22 - 08:53 AM

HEVENU SHALOM ALEICHEM
הבאנו שלום עליכם

הבאנו שלום עליכם
הבאנו שלום עליכם
הבאנו שלום עליכם
הבאנו שלום שלום שלום עליכם
WE BROUGHT PEACE ON YOU


We brought peace on you*
We brought peace on you

We brought peace on you
We brought peace, peace, peace on you


*= you all, plural
Transliteration

hevenu shalom aleichem
hevenu shalom aleichem
hevenu shalom aleichem
hevenu shalom shalom shalom aleichem

We have all that + a sheet music + some comments/notes on Mama Lisa's World Hevenu Shalom Aleichem page.
Jerusalem Academy flashmob in Ben Gurion airport.
Recording by Fran Avni with pictures by Noam Chen -Hebrew lyrics and English translation embedded.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 23 Apr 22 - 06:19 AM

On Monday Elsa sang Shalom Chaverim and Hevenu Shalom Aleichem.

SHALOM CHAVERIM
שלום חברים

שלום חברים, שלום חברים
שלום, שלום
להתראות, להתראות
שלום,שלום
PEACE, FRIENDS


Peace, friends, peace, friends,
Peace, peace

Till (we) see (each other) again, till (we) see (each other) again,
Peace, peace.
Transliteration

Shalom, chaverim.
Shalom, chaverim.
Shalom, shalom.
L'hitraot, l'hitraot,
Shalom, shalom.

Sheet music (+ translation, transliteration and Hebrew)
3-Part Mixed Choir arranged by Catherine Delanoy
Live rendition in Hebrew and English by The Manning Oaks Elementary School 4th and 5th Grade Chorus.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 22 Apr 22 - 12:05 PM

Frank, you can hear it sung by kids here -it's the only one I could find. There's an early version collected in 1703 in Brunetes, tome 1, page 135 by Christophe Ballard and in a less old book (!!!...1889) "Chansons et rondes enfantines" by Jean-Baptiste Weckerlin page 70.
I do remember my mother singing the version in Weckerlin's "Chansons et rondes enfantines" so I never knew the "Dans notre village chacun vit content..." verses.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Stringsinger
Date: 22 Apr 22 - 11:28 AM

Hi Monique,

I don't know if you got this one.

Dans notre village chacun vie content
Dans notre village chacun vie content
Ler bergers chantant après le fin du leur ouvrage
Sont restant du jour bon faire l'amour.

It's on our album, the World of Frank and Valucha. I don't know if it's on YouTube.

In our little village we are happy.
The working people sing at the end of the day
And for the rest or the day, they make love.

I like to play and sing this on the banjo.


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Subject: ADD: Na sera 'e maggio
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Apr 22 - 03:30 AM

Gayle Wade sang this, I think on April 18. She asked me to post the lyrics. Thanks, Gayle.

Na sera 'e maggio

Quanno vien'a 'appuntamento
guarde 'o mare, guard’altronne,
si te parlo nun rispunne,
staje distratta comm'a che.
Io te tengo dint’o core,
sóngo sempe 'nnammurato
ma tu, invece, pienze a n'ato
e te staje scurdanno 'e me

Quanno se dice: "Sí!"
tiènelo a mente
Nun s'ha da fá murí
nu core amante
Tu mme diciste: "Sí!" na sera 'e maggio
e mo tiene 'o curaggio 'e mme lassá?!

St'uocchie tuoje nun só' sincere
comm'a quanno mme 'ncuntraste,
comm'a quanno mme diciste:
"Voglio bene sulo a te "
E tremmanno mme giuraste,
cu na mano 'ncopp'o core:
"Nun se scorda 'o primmo ammore! "
Mo te staje scurdanno 'e me

Quanno se dice: "Sí!"
tiènelo a mente
Nun s'ha da fá murí
nu core amante
Tu mme diciste: "Sí!" na sera 'e maggio
e mo tiene 'o curaggio 'e mme lassá?!


One evening in May

When you come to our meeting
You look at the sea, you look away [from me]
If I speak to you, you don’t reply,
Your thoughts are somewhere else.
I hold you in my heart,
I’m still in love with you,
But you, on the other hand, are thinking of someone else
And you’re forgetting about me.

When you say ‘Yes’
Remember this
You shouldn’t kill a loving heart.
You said ‘Yes’ to me one evening in May
And now you have the audacity to leave me!

Those eyes of yours are not sincere
As they were when you met me,
As they were when you told me
“I love only you”
And, trembling, you swore to me:
“First love is never forgotten!”
But now you are forgetting me.

When you say ‘Yes’
Remember this
You shouldn’t kill a loving heart.
You said ‘Yes’ to me one evening in May
And now you have the audacity to leave me!

Mario Lanza recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFIAwWNb72g
The 1937 Neapolitan song "'Na Sera 'e Maggio" (One Evening in May) by Giuseppe Cioffi [1901-1976] (music) and Gigi Pisano [1889-1973] (lyrics). Recorded by tenor Mario Lanza in Rome in December 1958. Franco Ferrara, conductor.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 18 Apr 22 - 01:59 PM

JOAN DE LA RÈULA (Occitan)

Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal cofada,
Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal cofada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai cofada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai al ser.

Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal pintiada,
Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal pintiada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai pintiada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai al ser.

Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal lavada,
Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal lavada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai lavada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai al ser.

Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal cauçada,
Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal cauçada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai cauçada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai al ser.

Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal aimada,
Joan de la Rèula, mon amic
Que n'as ta femna mal aimada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai aimada,
Balha-la-me, prèsta-la-me,
La te tornarai al ser.
JOHN FROM LA RÉOLE

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly coiffed,
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly coiffed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her coiffed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her back to you in the evening.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly combed,
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly combed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her combed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her back to you in the evening.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly washed,
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly washed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her washed,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her back to you in the evening.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly shod,
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly shod,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her shod,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her back to you in the evening.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly loved,
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly loved,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her loved,
Give her to me, lend her to me,
I'll return her back to you in the evening.
Recording by Los Hardidets de Maseròlas
[Amateur singers record their own voice at home to a traditional Gascon song. The recordings are then grouped together to reconstitute a "cantere" (spontaneous songs sung by several people)]

Live rendition by Los Hardidets de Maseròlas
Played by Ensemble Instrumental des Landes - Cants Deu Sud

Sheet music

Gascon version:
Joan de la Rèula mon amic
Be n'as la hemna mau cohada
Si jo l'avi, la cohari, tan la nuèit coma lo dia,
si jo l'avi, la cohari, tan lo ser com lo matin.

Joan de la Rèula mon amic
Be n'as la hemna mau pintiada
Si jo l'avi, la pientari, tan la nuèit coma lo dia,
si jo l'avi, la pientari, tan lo ser com lo matin.

Joan de la Rèula mon amic
Be n'as la hemna mau lavada
Si jo l'avi, la lavari, tan la nuèit coma lo dia,
si jo l'avi, la lavari, tan lo ser com lo matin.

Joan de la Rèula mon amic
Be n'as la hemna mau cauçada
Si jo l'avi, la cauçari, tan la nuèit coma lo dia,
si jo l'avi, la cauçari, tan lo ser com lo matin.

Joan de la Rèula mon amic
Be n'as la hemna mau aimada
Si jo l'avi, jo l'aimari, tan la nuèit coma lo dia,
si jo l'avi, jo l'aimari, tan lo ser com lo matin
John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly coiffed,
If I had her, I'd coiff her, as much by night as by day,
If I had her, I'd coiff her, as much in the evening as in the morning.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly combed,
If I had her, I'd comb her, as much by night as by day,
If I had her, I'd comb her, as much in the evening as in the morning.

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly washed,
If I had her, I'd wash her, as much by night as by day,
If I had her, I'd wash her, as much in the evening as in the morning

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly shod,
If I had her, I'd shoe her, as much by night as by day,
If I had her, I'd shoe her, as much in the evening as in the morning

John from La Réole, my friend,
Your wife is badly loved,
If I had her, I'd love her, as much by night as by day,
If I had her, I'd love her, as much in the evening as in the morning.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 17 Apr 22 - 05:19 PM

You can find links to YouTube renditions/recordings at the bottom of each song. I also added links to sheet music if I could find them for free somewhere online (but not always!).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 17 Apr 22 - 05:04 PM

How can we find tunes for these songs other than buying a lot of recordings? Are there places to get the notes or an audio clip?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GUEST,Guest Joan F
Date: 14 Apr 22 - 09:03 AM

Monique is *not* giving the English translation to "Ketzele Faygele/Die Sapozkhelekh" the way I sang it but I don't have time to hunt-&-peck type it in from my tablet right now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 06:27 PM

On April 4th I sang an alternate version of this song
(Original lyrics: Martin Cayla (1880-1951)
Music: Martin Cayla-Joseph Canteloube (1879 -1957)
LO MÈRLE (Occitan) (Alternate version)

Quand lo mèrle sauta al prat
Lèva la coèta, lèva la coèta,
Quand lo mèrle sauta al prat
Lèva la coèta, baissa lo cap.

Quand lo nòvi sauta al prat
Tomba la vèsta, tomba la vèsta,
Quand lo nòvi sauta al prat
Tomba la vèsta, baissa lo cap.

Quand la nòvia sauta al prat
Tomba la rauba, tomba la roba,
Quand la nòvia sauta al prat
Tomba la rauba, baissa lo cap.

Quand lo merle se'n va del prat
Baissa la coeta, baissa la coeta,
Quand lo merle se'n va del prat
Baissa la coeta, mès lèva lo cap.
THE BLACKBIRD

When the blackbird jumps into the meadow,
It raises its tails, it raises its tail,
When the blackbird jumps into the meadow
It raises its tails, it hangs its head.

When the groom jumps into the meadow
He removes his jacket, he removes his jacket,
When the groom jumps into the meadow,
He removes his jacket, he hangs his head.

When the bride jumps into the meadow
She removes her gown, she removes her gown,
When the bride jumps into the meadow,
She removes her gown, she hangs her head.

When the blackbird leaves the meadow,
It hangs its tail, it hangs its tail,
When the blackbird leaves the meadow,
It hangs its tail but raises its head.
You can hear this version at 30:08 of this "Los del Sauveterre" recording


Here are the original lyrics penned by Martin Cayla spelled in normalized spelling
Quand lo mèrle sauta al prat
Lèva la coèta, lèva la coèta,
Quand lo mèrle sauta al prat
Lèva la coèta, baissa lo cap.

Quand lo merle se'n va del prat
Baissa la coeta, baissa la coeta,
Quand lo merle se'n va del prat
Baissa la coeta, mès lèva lo cap.

Aval, darrièr nòstre ostal,
Lo mèrle estifla, lo mèrle estifla,
Aval, darrièr nòstre ostal,
Lo mèrle estifla coma cal.

Quand lo nòvi sauta al prat
Quita la vèsta, quita la vèsta,
Quand lo nòvi sauta al prat
Quita la vèsta, baissa lo cap.

Quand la nòvia sauta al prat
Quita la rauba, quita la roba,
Quand la nòvia sauta al prat
Quita la rauba, escarta les braç.

Quand se tròban totes dos,
Quitan la vèsta, quitan la rauba,
Quand se tròban totes dos
Aquí se manjan de potons.
When the blackbird jumps into the meadow,
It raises its tails, it raises its tail,
When the blackbird jumps into the meadow
It raises its tails, it hangs its head.

When the blackbird leaves the meadow,
It hangs its tail, it hangs its tail,
When the blackbird leaves the meadow,
It hangs its tail but raises its head

Over there, behind our house,
The blackbird whistles, the blackbird whistles
Over there, behind our house,
The blackbird whistles good and proper.

When the groom jumps into the meadow
He removes his jacket, he removes his jacket,
When the groom jumps into the meadow,
He removes his jacket, he hangs his head.

When the bride jumps into the meadow
She removes her dress/gown, she removes her dress/gown,
When the bride jumps into the meadow,
She removes her dress/gown and spreads her arms

When they're alone (word for word. "they find themselves all two"),
They remove their jacket, they remove their gown/dress
When they're alone,
There "they eat each other with kisses"(lit.!)
Here are some links to YouTube videos

sung

Played on a hurdy gurdy

sung

1st verse only (for obvious reasons) sung and played by K children


Sheet music here. Note: the sheet music is said to be "around" 1920 so the song might be in the public domain in the US. Here it isn't since Canteloube died in 1957, it'll fall in the PD in Jan. 2028. Another sheet music. For sale by AbeBooks so it might disappear one day or another.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 05:47 PM

On March 28th I sang...
LE PARAPLUIE (French)
Georges Brassens (1921-1981)

Il pleuvait fort sur la grand-route
Elle cheminait sans parapluie
J'en avais un, volé, sans doute
Le matin même à un ami
Courant alors à sa rescousse
Je lui propose un peu d'abri
En séchant l'eau de sa frimousse
D'un air très doux, elle m'a dit "oui"

Refrain
Un petit coin de parapluie
Contre un coin de paradis
Elle avait quelque chose d'un ange
Un petit coin de paradis
Contre un coin de parapluie
Je ne perdais pas au change, pardi*

Chemin faisant, que ce fut tendre
D'ouïr à deux le chant joli
Que l'eau du ciel faisait entendre
Sur le toit de mon parapluie
J'aurais voulu, comme au déluge
Voir sans arrêt tomber la pluie
Pour la garder, sous mon refuge
Quarante jours, quarante nuits

(Refrain)

Mais bêtement, même en orage
Les routes vont vers des pays
Bientôt le sien fit un barrage
À l'horizon de ma folie
Il a fallu qu'elle me quitte
Après m'avoir dit grand merci
Et je l'ai vue toute petite
Partir gaiement vers mon oubli

(Refrain)
THE UMBRELLA


It was pouring on the main road/high way
She was walking without an umbrella
I had one, probably stolen
The same morning from a friend
Then running to her rescue
I offer her some shelter.
Drying the water from her little face
With a very sweet air/Very sweetly she told me "yes"

Chorus
A small bit of an umbrella
For a bit of paradise
She was something of an angel
A little bit of paradise
For a bit of an umbrella
I didn't lose on the exchange, of course

Along the way, how tender it was
To hark the pretty song together
That the water of the sky made hear
On the roof of my umbrella
I would have liked, as in the Flood,
Watch the rain fall nonstop
To keep her under my refuge
For forty days and forty nights

(Chorus)

But foolishly, even in a storm
Roads go to countries
Soon hers made a barrage
To the horizon of my madness
She had to leave me
After saying many thanks
And I saw her, so very little,
Go cheerfully towards my oblivion

(Chorus)
*"Pardi": euphemistic alteration of "pardieu" = by God

Lyrics + translation + notes. I already mentioned this very valuable site.

Live recording by Georges Brassens


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 05:21 PM

On March 21st I sang...
À LANDRY, PETIT VILLAGE (French -Savoie)
(Traditional from Savoy)

À Landry, petit village, y' a des fill's à marier (x2)
Y a des fill's à marier dans la misère
Qui voudraient s'y marier mais comment faire ?

Ô ma mère, ma bonne mère, mes beaux jours s'en vont courant (x2)
Mes beaux jours s'en vont courant c'est bien dommage
Sans avoir aucun amant dans le village

Ô ma fille prends patience, les amants ne manquent pas (x2)
Les amants ne manquent pas dans le village
Qui viendront te demander en mariage

Ô ma mère, ma bonne mère, par quel chemin passeront-ils ? (x2)
Les chemins sont si étroits et si rebelles
Qu'ils se casseront le nez et la cervelle

Les fill's se sont rassemblées, à la ville ell's sont allées (x2)
Ell's ont ach'té des rubans et des dentelles
Aussi des mouchoirs à la mode nouvelle

À Landry, petit village, y' a des fill's à marier (x2)
Y a des fill's à marier dans la misère
Qui voulaient s'y marier, c'est dur à faire.
IN LANDRY, A SMALL VILLAGE


In Landry, a small village, there are marriageable girls (x2)
There are marriageable girls in poverty
Who would like to get married but how to do so?

O my mother, my good mother, my fine days are running out (x2)
My fine days are running out, it's a shame
Without having any lover in the village

O my daughter be patient, lovers abound (x2)
There is no shortage of lovers in the village
Who will come to propose to you.

O my mother, my good mother, by which way will they pass? (x2)
The paths are so narrow and so dangerous
That they will break their noses and their brains

The girls gathered, they went to town (x2)
They bought ribbons and laces
Also new fashion handkerchiefs

In Landry, a small village, there are marriageable girls (x2)
There are marriageable girls in poverty
Who wanted to get married there, it's hard to achieve!

Live rendition by Malicorne

Sheet music


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: Monique
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 05:00 PM

On March 21st Joe Fineman sang...
АХ ТЫ, НОЧЕНЬКА

Ах ты, ноченька,
Ночка темная,
Ночка темная,
Да ночь осенняя.

С кем я ноченьку,
С кем осеннюю,
С кем тоскливую
Коротать буду?

Нет ни батюшки,
Нет ни матушки,
Только есть один
Мил-сердечный друг.

Только есть один
Мил-сердечный друг,
Да и тот со мной
Не в ладу живет.
OH THOU, NIGHT...

Oh thou, night
The night is dark
The night is dark
Yes, autumn night.

Who will I spend the autumn night with
With whom?
With whom
Will I pass this dreary night?

There is no father (I have no father left)
There is no mother (I have no mother left)
There is only one
Dear friend.

There is only one
Dear friend,
Yes, and the one with me
Isn't in love with me.
Handwritten collection of Nikolai Petrovich Popov, 80s of the XIX century, Smolensk.

Lyrics & different translation
Two scores


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GUEST,diplocase
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 04:48 PM

Comment vouloir qu'une personne chante - How can you expect a person to sing?
earliest written copy 1555
singing of Gabriel Yacoub, "Anthologie de la chanson française - Des trouvères à la pléiade." You can also hear his version on YouTube.
translation by Casey [diplocase]
COMMENT VOULOIR QU'UNE PERSONNE CHANTE

Comment vouloir qu'une personne chante
Quand elle n'a pas son cœur en liberté ?
Laissez chanter ceux que l'amour contente
Et laissez-moi, et laissez-moi dans mon malheur pleurer
Et laissez-moi, et laissez-moi dans mon malheur pleurer

Pleurez, mes yeux, pleurez mon sort funeste
J'ai tout perdu en perdant mon Iris
Cruel destin, prenez ce qui me reste
Et rendez-moi, et rendez-moi ce que vous m'avez pris
Et rendez-moi, et rendez-moi ce que vous m'avez pris

Prenez mon cœur et donnez-moi le vôtre
Il est à vous, je ne prétends plus rien
Mais si j'apprends que vous aimez un autre
Tout aussitôt, tout aussitôt je reprendrai le mien
Tout aussitôt, tout aussitôt je reprendrai le mien

J'avais juré de n'aimer qu'une fille
J'avais juré de la toujours aimer
Quand je la vois, je passe mon martyre
Quand je la vois, quand je la vois, je passe mon tourment
Quand je la vois, quand je la vois, je passe mon tourment

Que faudra-t-il, belle Iris, pour vous plaire ?
Faut-il mon sang ? Il est prêt à couler
Mais si mon sang ne peut vous satisfaire
Faut-il ma mort ? Faut-il ma mort ? Vous n'avez qu'à parler
Faut-il ma mort ? Faut-il ma mort ? Vous n'avez qu'à parler

Après la mort, vous pleurerez, je jure
Vous m'aimerez : ce ne sera plus temps
Vous marcherez dessus ma sépulture
En regrettant, en regrettant le plus fidèle amant
En regrettant, en regrettant le plus fidèle amant.
HOW CAN YOU EXPECT A PERSON TO SING

How can you expect a person to sing
Without his heart be free?
Those whom love makes happy, let them sing
And leave me alone, in misery to weep.
And leave me alone, in misery to weep.

Weep, oh my eyes, weep for this, my fate
In losing her, I have lost everything
Fate, will you not come take what I have left,
And give me back the thing you took from me?
And give me back the thing you took from me?

Give me your heart, and you take mine
It belongs to you; I seek nothing more
But if I learn that you love another
In that very moment I will take it back.
In that very moment I will take it back.

I took a vow to love just one girl
I swore to always love but only you
Whenever I see her I’m in torment
Whenever I see her I suffer anew
Whenever I see her I suffer anew

What will it take, lovely Iris, for to please you?
Is it my blood? I'm ready for to bleed.
But if my blood alone do not requite you
Will you demand my death? Only speak the word.
Will you demand my death? Only speak the word.

After my death you'll weep for me, I swear it
You’ll know you love me; it will be too late
You’ll come and go above my grave
Missing and wishing your loyal love to have
Missing and wishing your loyal love to have
Literal translation (Monique)

How does anyone want a person to sing
When they don't have a free heart?
Let those that love makes happy, sing
And let me, and let me weep in my misfortune,
And let me, and let me weep in my misfortune.

Weep, my eyes, weep over my dreadful fate,
I lost everything by losing my Iris,
Dreadful destiny, take what I have left
And give me back, and give me back what you took from me,
And give me back, and give me back what you took from me,

Take my heart and give me yours,
It's yours, I don't claim anything more,
But if I find out that you love someone else
Right away, right away I'll take mine back,
Right away, right away I'll take mine back.

I'd sworn I'd love only one girl,
I'd sworn to love her forever,
When I see her, I suffer agony
When I see her, when I see her, I suffer my torment
When I see her, when I see her, I suffer my torment.

What will be needed, beautiful Iris, to please you?
Is my blood needed? It's ready to flow
But if my blood can't satisfy you,
Is my death needed? Is my death needed? You only have to speak out
Is my death needed? Is my death needed? You only have to speak out

After my death, you'll cry, I swear/bet
You'll love me, this time will be over,
You'll walk upon my grave
Regretting, regretting your (the) most faithful lover

Recording byGabriel Yacoub
Live rendition by Luc Arbogast

Sheet music

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mudcat singaround songs NOT in English
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 22 - 04:43 PM

This is a remarkable collection of songs. I am a heretic when it comes to singing songs.
I don't think it has to interpreted by those who are exclusively from the culture. A good song is a good song. If you're singing a foreign song, it's respectful to get the pronunciation and the meanings of words right. But I have no problem with using different instruments and arrangements coming from a different culture. A lot of these songs could be sung with a five-string banjo accompaniment. I never had a problem with Pete Seeger singing a song in Spanish, Hebrew, German or African .....even Hungarian or Danish if you can master those difficult words.
Singers ought to be able to interpret songs their own way.

I must say that I had a problem with Eileen Farrell's attempt to sing the blues but that was due to her lack of understanding of that medium.

This thread is so important because a good song travels around the world and binds us as humanity together.

When we were with the Weavers, we were open to criticism because we were not from the cultural background of some of the foreign songs we sang. But we made a respectful attempt to understand the song and its environment.

When you think of it isn't this the folk process? A variant of a song comes from one part of the world and becomes a new song in another.


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